1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 31 Jul 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 421       Contents:' ANN: HG FILESERV updates from Lyle West + Re: ANN: HG FILESERV updates from Lyle West 4 Bind a socket to a low port number without privilege8 Re: Bind a socket to a low port number without privilege< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ???< Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ???% Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers  Re: Mount disk at startup? Re: Mount disk at startup?% Re: Multinet on VMS 5.5 please HELP ! + Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au  Re: Solaris to Itanium...  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems  Re: Touch Screen Voting systems  Re: Where to get OpenVMS Alpha?  Re: Where to get OpenVMS Alpha? 2 Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS machines run?2 Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS machines run?O Re: [TCPware, V73_MGMTAGENTS] Does anyone have a working installation running ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:03:59 -0500 - From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@goatley.com> 0 Subject: ANN: HG FILESERV updates from Lyle West* Message-ID: <410B364F.2040608@goatley.com>  7 Lyle West has contributed updates to several of his VMS - freeware packages, as well as a few new ones.    Updated 9    CMPDIR -  Compare two directories like DCL DIFFERENCES 0    LNMTOOL  --  Motif-based Logical Name BrowserG    LWW-FUNCT-KEYS - Programs to display keymap and define function keys B    LWW-MODIFY-ATTRIB -- Programs to modify certain file attributesF    LWW-PERSONA-DECW  -  Create a new DECterm logged in as another user?    LWW-PERSONA  -  Log in as another user (a rewrite of GLOGIN) 7    LWW-USERINFO -  Display user information from SYSUAF    New =    LWW-DIRSORT -  DIRECTORY command with sorting by date/time :    LWW-DORMANT -  Display SYSUAF info about inactive users9    LWW-NEXT-UIC -  Provides next available UIC in a group @    LWW-REMTREE -  Deletes all subdirectories and files in a treeE    LWW-REVERT -  Changes file version numbers of files in a directory   - You can find them all via the following URLs:    http://www.process.com/openvms/   , ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/1 http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/   ( ftp://ftp.tmk.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/- http://www.tmk.com/ftp/vms-freeware/fileserv/   % And on the other mirrors in 24 hours.   
 Thanks, Lyle!    Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ ; <goathunter@GOATLEY.COM>     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:12:02 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>4 Subject: Re: ANN: HG FILESERV updates from Lyle West+ Message-ID: <410BD2E2.9B8061A6@comcast.net>    Hunter Goatley wrote:  > 9 > Lyle West has contributed updates to several of his VMS / > freeware packages, as well as a few new ones.   + Thanx to Lyle West for his work! Very good!   H Here's a wish list item for anyone who wants to take it on. I've alreadyE done this in DCL, but a .EXE with source might be better as freeware:   D At system shutdown time - or on-demand, take a "snapshot" of all the5 logical name table sthat aren't specific to a VMS job B (LNM$JOB_xxxxxxxx), and later on compare the running system to theF snapshot, or compare any tow snapshots. This is useful for identifying@ things that consultants, programmers, etc. may have done withoutH remembering to edit the system/application/etc. startup files to reflect the changes to the environment.    Just a suggestion...   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:28:50 +0200  From: jf.pieronne@laposte.net = Subject: Bind a socket to a low port number without privilege 2 Message-ID: <cefoop$cd9$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>  R I have successfully port and run an anti-spam/anti-virus SMTP proxy server on VMS.J But as the process need to access port 25 (standard SMTP port), I need to > grant to the process either SYSPRV, BYPASS, or OPER privilege.  N The program language is PERL, so I can't install the image with the necessary 
 privilege.  ; I will be more confident if I can run it without privilege.   M So, is it doable to grant the right to access a low port number (<1024) to a  B process which don't have any important privilege or an system UIC?     Thanks for any help.  
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:14:28 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> A Subject: Re: Bind a socket to a low port number without privilege , Message-ID: <410BC561.4D06BDDD@teksavvy.com>   jf.pieronne@laposte.net wrote:N > So, is it doable to grant the right to access a low port number (<1024) to aD > process which don't have any important privilege or an system UIC?  N I initially was to suggest that by defining the service with TCPIP SET SERVICEJ that you could get away without privileges (since the application would beM defined in the TCPIP database). That way, it could run some command procedure 7 that then invoke perl and did what you wanted it to do.   P However, looking at 2 services that do not require privileges to do their stuff:   	BIND is granted OPER privilege   	SMTP_RECEIVER is granted SYSPRV  F So it looks like even services which are defined in the TCPIP servicesQ database need at least SYSPRV or OPER in order to bind to their respective ports.   N (In fairness, the SMTP RECEIVER might need SYSPRV to be able to submit entriesP to the smtp queues that do not come from the user underwhich the receiver runs).    M What you might consider is writing a user written system service that has the L right privs and which does the bind to port 25 and then returns the "handle"K to the calling program, and then write some jacket program which calls that / routine , and integrate that program into Perl.    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2004 06:17:55 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.orgE Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? 3 Message-ID: <sL8pteMN51PJ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ^ In article <yIaOc.687$KF.4544@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> writes:E >> Yes, see /RETAIN for the queue or print command for a simple case.  >> >  > Wrong.M > /RETAIN keeps the job on the queue after execution, but does not change the  > way the job runs. N > That is, if it's set to delete the file after printing, it will still delete > it.   E No.  It won't.  I just tested it.  Ran the job.  Looked for the file. : Found it.  Deleted the entry.  Looked for the file.  Gone.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Jul 2004 09:26:05 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) E Subject: Re: Copy of a file on a print queue before being deleted ??? 3 Message-ID: <wk7Uuzam4QbD@eisner.encompasserve.org>   T In article <sL8pteMN51PJ@eisner.encompasserve.org>, briggs@encompasserve.org writes:` > In article <yIaOc.687$KF.4544@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> writes:F >>> Yes, see /RETAIN for the queue or print command for a simple case. >>>  >>  	 >> Wrong. N >> /RETAIN keeps the job on the queue after execution, but does not change the >> way the job runs.O >> That is, if it's set to delete the file after printing, it will still delete  >> it. > G > No.  It won't.  I just tested it.  Ran the job.  Looked for the file. < > Found it.  Deleted the entry.  Looked for the file.  Gone.  C That makes sense, since the major purpose in Batch of /RETAIN is to E allow one to release the job to run again.  That won't work for print / jobs if the file to be printed has bee deleted.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:18:56 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>. Subject: Re: Microsoft delays while HP dithers0 Message-ID: <878yd11c5r.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  % "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes:    > Keith Parris wrote: 1 >> "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message + >> news:<DeadnS_YNOA7jpXcRVn-qQ@igs.net>... + >>> Microsoft Delays Three Windows Upgrades  >> >> Additional coverage at:F >> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/windows/0,39020396,39161897,00.htm, >> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17492, >> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17457 >  > Keith, > I > It isn't about Microsoft delays per se....it's about the opportunity it M > presents to HP to market a secure, reliable o/s to customers who are fed up  > with MS crap.   / > As the old saying went, "Digital has it now".   7 "And there is no f*****ng way you are going to get it."    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 05:58:14 GMT ' From: "Mike E." <m_esso@@@@hotmail.com> # Subject: Re: Mount disk at startup? . Message-ID: <WxGOc.148288$ek5.110697@pd7tw2no>  & Awesome, thanks for the help everyone! It is very appreciated.     2 "Mike E." <m_esso@@@@hotmail.com> wrote in message' news:GAvOc.144360$ek5.85260@pd7tw2no... 	 > Hi all,  > . > I'm a bit of a VMS noob, so bear with me. :) > J > I'm trying to get a secondary disk to mount at startup using OpenVMS/VAX > v7.1L > I figured that it would just be a simple entry in systarup_vms.com; at the) > end of the script (before EXIT) I have:  >  > $mount dka100 <vol-label>  > K > When I watch the startup sequence the command gets executed and says that J > this particular volume has successfully been mounted.  Yet, once I loginI > it's only "online" and that same command has to be run again to have it 
 > mounted. > 
 > What gives?  >  >  > 	 > Thanks! 	 > Mike E.  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:47:22 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> # Subject: Re: Mount disk at startup? : Message-ID: <uxMOc.374$VN2.180@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   Mike E. wrote:( > Awesome, thanks for the help everyone! > It is very appreciated.  >  > 4 > "Mike E." <m_esso@@@@hotmail.com> wrote in message) > news:GAvOc.144360$ek5.85260@pd7tw2no...  > 	 >>Hi all,  >>. >>I'm a bit of a VMS noob, so bear with me. :) >>J >>I'm trying to get a secondary disk to mount at startup using OpenVMS/VAX >>v7.1L >>I figured that it would just be a simple entry in systarup_vms.com; at the) >>end of the script (before EXIT) I have:  >> >>$mount dka100 <vol-label>  >>K >>When I watch the startup sequence the command gets executed and says that J >>this particular volume has successfully been mounted.  Yet, once I loginI >>it's only "online" and that same command has to be run again to have it 
 >>mounted. >>
 >>What gives?  >> >> >>	 >>Thanks! 	 >>Mike E.  >> >> >  >  >    one more.... 	for future reference :)   from DCL $HELP MOUNT   O You might want to familiarize yourself with the HELP command.  It is intuitive  = and easy to follow - and more importantly tehre are EXAMPLES.    Good luck and welcome to VMS!!!    --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:05:07 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>. Subject: Re: Multinet on VMS 5.5 please HELP !+ Message-ID: <410BD143.E210E32D@comcast.net>    Zibri wrote: >  > Hmm... no.. the point is:  > . > I already have downloaded the 55 Mb archive.< > I don't know how to transfer it to my virtual VAX/VMS ....' > Using kermit it would take 23 hours ! N > Isn't there a way to create a TAPE image from windows and then mount it from > SIMH/VAX/VMS ?!   G AH! Well, then maybe one of the Charon-VAX or SIMH users/gurus/etc. has H an idea how to accomplish this: once the .ZIP archive is on the host PC,@ how to import it from the host o.s. to the emulated environment.   Just curious...   B If the host o.s. could access COM1 and VMS/SIMH access COM2, couldF kermit in ecah instance run over a null-modem serial cable between the two COM ports at 115200 baud?    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:21:45 -0400 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> 4 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 on Alpha Wokstation 500au0 Message-ID: <10gne2952rn0eb4@news.supernews.com>  7 if you have a burned cdr then that might be the problem + those older cdroms do not like burned media 8 Also - ARE YOU SURE IT IS A CYPRESS IDE CTR on the m/brd' These PWS systems came in two flavours. ' CMD IDE chipset - crap even for AlphaNT 0 Cypress IDE chipset which worked with VMS 7.1-2>8 Even these ctr's had their limitations with newer drivesH Toshiba made most of the cdroms for dec PCXRN-AR if I remember correctly% Then PLEXTOR/TEAC got in near the end   G I would try putting a Toshiba SCSI CDROM on the bus (need a 17-40009-01 & 68P-50P converter) and try it that way$ just to be sure it isn't the system.   DT   --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     @ "Steve O'Hara" <sohara@pivotal-solutions.co.uk> wrote in message7 news:2qFGc.45266$HQ1.18926@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk... H > I'm trying to install VMS on this box and can't get past word go......L > The box had True64 on it, loaded by the previous owner who installed it toG > test the box - therfore I figured that it would likely be OK for VMS. A > I've checked the configuration (Toshiba CD-ROM with Cypress IDE  controller),! > changed os_type to OpenVMS etc. F > The machine will boot from the floopy for firmware upgrade - current version  > is 7.2-1.  > I > Everything looks fine and indeed when I try to bbot from the CD it does D > recognise that it is a bootable disc and jumps the bootstrap code.L > It then displays the "OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-1"! > banner and just hangs..........  > J > I've tried a different CD, swapped out the CD-ROM drive, swapped out the$ > hard disk too but all to no avail. >  > Any ideas ?????? > 	 > Thanks,  >  > Steve  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:42:52 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>" Subject: Re: Solaris to Itanium...2 Message-ID: <ac6dndUud5y1opbcRVn-rA@metrocast.net>  > "Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0407300657.69454a92@posting.google.com... : > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message( news:<4109B330.57E07AFC@teksavvy.com>...H > > Paul demone forgot to add that Sun is still developping sparc-4, and thatI > > Fujutsu is developping what will be the replacement for the cancelled  sparc-5. > > H > > So, sparc gets a could upgrades in its current generation, while the next& > > generation will come from fujutsi. > ? > Sun is merely putting two older core designs on the same chip  > substrate.  J Wrong (though indeed they are shipping dual-core products today that mightJ fit that description, and may have a second dual-core product to introduceL soon).  Sun is also developing two *new* SPARC cores:  Niagara, due to debut+ in 2006, and Rock (for 2007, last I heard).   <  It has apparently given up on doing out-of-order processingH > and SMT. Fujitsu isn't likely to attempt projects of that magnitude on
 > its own.  K Didn't I suggest quite recently that you consider confining your statements 1 to areas where you were not so abjectly ignorant?   H The 4-way-issue SPARC64 V that's kicking Itanic butt in several areas isI *already* an out-of-order architecture (and has been since the mid-'90s). J And several different sources have reported that SPARC64 VI, the dual-coreH next-generation product that's due about the same time Montecito is, has 2-way SMT per core.    - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:39:03 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> ( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems< Message-ID: <baOOc.16769$DZ.1917398@twister.tampabay.rr.com>  =   We all know the best computer screens need a backup system. ? A journalizing system would help as well.  Paper receipts would 
 be essential.   < Now, maybe if it were done on a VMS platform with shadowing,* and a simple log file with voter's choice.  " This is not hacker or idiot proof.   Bob    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:05:33 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems0 Message-ID: <87zn5gz2z6.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  / JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:   B > While generally, I would agree with that statement, bear in mind? > that elections in the USA are far more complex than elsewhere ? > because they combine multiple elections into a single ballot.   D We have 2 or 3 votes at each federal election. One for the HoR, thatA is one sheet of paper, different for each electorate. One for the E Senate, another sheet, per state, and optionaly a referendum question  on another.   > I think the limit was the ACT having 126 candidates some yearsB ago. Oh, and most of elections are proportional, so every vote for  every candidate must be counted.  > The polls close at 5pm, and 80-90% of the results are known by	 midnight.   A This is all done with advanced orgaic composites and carbon fibre  marking units...   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:30:50 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ( Subject: Re: Touch Screen Voting systems, Message-ID: <410BC936.E1D4FA63@teksavvy.com>   Paul Repacholi wrote: F > We have 2 or 3 votes at each federal election. One for the HoR, thatC > is one sheet of paper, different for each electorate. One for the G > Senate, another sheet, per state, and optionaly a referendum question 
 > on another.   @ > The polls close at 5pm, and 80-90% of the results are known by > midnight.   M The advent/popularity of satellite and digital cable have now made time zones L irrelevant (since someon in BC can watch a channel from Halifax at the otherN end of the continent). So Elections Canada decided to try having a single pollL closing time across canada which would make media "blackouts" moot. However,K it wasn't quite that way, with voters in British columbia having their poll M close after those of the rest of canada and having a good taset of the vote's 1 outcome  on TV and still have the chance to vote.   K Usually, within one hour of a poll closing, they have a pretty good idea of J which candidate in that riding will win, unless it is a really close call.N However, overnight, when they really complete all the counting, you can find a1 few ridings moving from one candidate to another.   J Interestingly, at one point during our last election, the marxist leninistM party was leading in one riding by wide margin (38 votes against 1 or 2 votes J for otherts. (this made the commentators laugh). What probably happened isM that a whole bunch of people in one neighbourhood decided to get together and L make a "statement" and their box turned out to be the first one to be opened and counted.  E And for both the liberal and NDP leaders, thir own election was hotly C contested in their riding for the first hour of counting, with some L "disposable canditate" who looked like carrot head leading over the would beG prime minister. (generally, opposing parties don't put a star candidate M against the leader of another party). This made the media speculate to no end L on what would happen if the prime minister lost his seat. (And remember thatI this was at a time when polls were still opened in BC and BC voters could ! watch those results on their TV).   I In the end, both leaders won with a comfortable majority in their riding. K Which made me think that perhaps, for shomanship, they decided to initially J only count "certain" ballots to make the initial results "interesting" andN later in the night, count all the ballots they had skipped to provide the realH results. (just speculation on my part). (and this tactic might have also2 applied to that marxist leninist temporary "win").  M For this tactic to work, each candidate's staff would have had to agree to it L and not make any official complaints. The losing candidate probably wouldn'tF oppose it since he would be shown leading during the first hour of theR counting. And the winning candidate wouldn't object since he would eventually win.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:12:00 -0400 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> ( Subject: Re: Where to get OpenVMS Alpha?0 Message-ID: <10gndfvibkhqd45@news.supernews.com>  1 We can order the media for you for $449 vms 7.3-2    David    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     5 "Steven Schoch" <schoch@spamcop.net> wrote in message ) news:cec1k2$1d35$1@news.mainstreet.net... H > I have 2 old AlphaStation 400's just sitting around.  One has DEC UnixJ > and the other has Windows NT, but I don't need those anymore so I'd like > to load OpenVMS. > H > The trouble is, I can't find it.  I started with HP's web site, got asG > far as finding a price list, so I called their sales number and asked J > for OpenVMS.  They said they don't sell it, but I could find a copy fromH > a reseller.  I called a couple of their listed resellers but they were > no help either.  >  > So where can I get a copy? >  > --   > Steve    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:01:15 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>( Subject: Re: Where to get OpenVMS Alpha?+ Message-ID: <410BD05A.FEBD0760@comcast.net>    DAVID TURNER wrote:  > 3 > We can order the media for you for $449 vms 7.3-2   * Is that one copy or a year's worth of MDS?   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:57:58 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> ; Subject: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS machines run? : Message-ID: <qHMOc.2258$YY.458@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>   Undisclosed wrote:  I > personal ones or ones you administer for non-work purposes, of course,  ? > since it would be a little cheesy to ask about work machines.  > F > I wondered if everyone here were total OVMS stalwarts that wouldn't K > dream of not having DCL on one of their machines, and if not, what their  . > personal systems of choice besides OVMS ran. > H > I'm using fairly cheap ( I deliberately bought less than the state of J > the art) but well constructed x86 based machines multibooting variously > > between Win XP, various Linux distros, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. > J > I'm thinking about getting a MIPS-based Linksys WRT54G router for cheap J > and play around with turning it into a customized Linux or NetBSD based 	 > router.  > I > I would love to get some exotic hardware to play with eventually... an  K > old Alpha system to run OpenVMS and maybe some cheap SPARC-based systems  J > to play around with and old IBM machines to run AIX on. Or even better,  > a brand new G5 Powerbook. :) > G > I'd love to have some low end Ciscos or Junipers to play around with  H > too, but those things are expensive. $600 min for a half-broke router H > only capable of running IOS 11 and not upgradable is not my idea of a 
 > good price.    2 DELL's running W98 and XP . Digital Starion (PI/166) running Caldera LinuxK Custom Intel MMX also running Caldera (RH9AS would NOT install on this CPU) F AS2100-A OpenVMS 7.3-1 (Apache, MySQL, Rdb (w/OCI8 Client), PHP, Perl) Custom AMD running RH9 Custom AMD running XP    --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:04:15 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> ; Subject: Re: [Somewhat OT] What your non-OVMS machines run? ; Message-ID: <jNMOc.2259$z_.1882@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>    Roger Ivie wrote:   E > On 2004-07-29, Undisclosed <nomail@dontbeaweaselspammer.com> wrote:  > I >>personal ones or ones you administer for non-work purposes, of course,  ? >>since it would be a little cheesy to ask about work machines.  >>H >>I'm using fairly cheap ( I deliberately bought less than the state of J >>the art) but well constructed x86 based machines multibooting variously > >>between Win XP, various Linux distros, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. >  > I > My wife gets the good machine; I run the old crap no one wants anymore. J > My main machine is now the machine her best friend gave up on because it# > was too slow. I run NetBSD on it.  > J > I also have a beige G3 on which I run MacOS. I used to run NetBSD on it,F > until the wife bought a firewire camcorder and suddenly wanted to be > able to run iMovie.  > I > My main VMS machine is a Sandpiper I got surplus for $25. I also have a @ > VAXstation 4000/96 for running VMS, although it also ran as anI > unofficial corporate webserver using NetBSD for about a year at a PPOE.  > ( > I like NetBSD for a couple of reasons: > D >   - It runs on things that aren't PCs, and I have plenty of those. > J >   - It is highly configurable in a manner that Linux and FreeBSD aren't. > @ >     My previous PC was my wife's old box; something in the IDEC >     controller died in a manner that made it incapable of running E >     Windows (for some reason, the IDE controller could no longer do G >     DMA). I was able to configure NetBSD around the problem by simply F >     telling it to ignore that PCI IDE controller and use it as if it >     were an ISA one.   > C >     I tried both FreeBSD and Linux on the machine, but they both  E >     discovered the PCI IDE controller and keeled over because they  E >     tried to use the broken DMA. The machine ran NetBSD 24x7 for a  3 >     couple of years with a broken IDE controller.  > F > I have an 8" SSSD CP/M box right here. And my Epson PX-8, although I8 > need to run through it and change all the batteries...  Q that's funny because my Starion cannot use it as a MASTER on the primary port on  L the first controller, so I configured it on the SLAVE controller. What this K means is that my Caldera Linux boots from floppy (I have several) and then  O transfers control to the system disk. I could never get the BIOS to allow boot   from the SLAVE.  It works,   --   Michael Austin.  Consultant - Available. @ Donations welcomed. Http://www.firstdbasource.com/donations.html :)   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:44:34 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)X Subject: Re: [TCPware, V73_MGMTAGENTS] Does anyone have a working installation running ?1 Message-ID: <newscache$rdhp1i$2622$1@news.sil.at>   Z In article <2ms7etFpn5c4U1@uni-berlin.de>, "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> writes:< >"Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote...2 >> "Martin Vorlaender" <mv@pdv-systeme.de> writes:H >> >Same here. On the summary page: contact information and location allF >> >show "N/A". The WBEM logfiles and the TCPware SNMP log files don't= >> >show errors. I'll try to get that information by snmpget.  >>0 >> What summary page ? https://localhost:2381/ ? > K >That's "Device Home", the page where you select the "hp Insight Management D >Agents for OpenVMS". The summary page is the one that pops up next.  A Wow. There is the info I was looking for but haven't seen so far. M I had to use a Win32 MOZILLA to get it as my VMS MOZILLA did nothing there !!   8 Do you perhaps have an idea, why there is a difference ?K It is not JAVA (as JAVA is working fine in VMS MOZILLA, and I have JAVA not L working in a firefox test and there it works, too, but not the percentages).  G >> I found a warning in SYS$SPECIFIC:[WBEM.AGENTS.LOGS]CPQTHRESHOLD.LOG M >> 28-JUL-2004 08:34:42.75 WARNING CPQTHRESHOLDMGMT_PERSIST.C line 368: error * >opening sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.datM >> 28-JUL-2004 08:34:43.37 WARNING CPQTHRESHOLDMGMT_PERSIST.C line 133: error . >linking sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.dat and" >sys$system:ucx$mgt_thresholds.bak > ? >Yup. Same here. I suspect that's why thresholds wouldn't work.   H As I have this SYS$SYSTEM:UCX$MGT_THRESHOLDS.BAK also on systems withoutL MGMTAGENTS, it seems to be part of TCPIP. And I only have (empty) .BAK filesC no .DAT files. It seems, I should RTFM again (after my vacation ;-)   K >After you've selected "Insight Agent" from "Device home", the frame in the M >lower left has selections for "File System Space Used" and "CPU Utilization"  >(besides others).  C Thanks a lot for giving me the hint that there must be more to see. ! Indeed it is and it looks good...   C >Breaking News: I've got it working!!!  (except for the thresholds)   E What was your last symptom seen ? 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