1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 02 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 304       Contents:( Re: CARTS LUG 9-June-2004 meeting update RE: Cluster disk mount problem RE: Cluster disk mount problem RE: Cluster disk mount problem Re: Cluster disk mount problem DHCP server problem  RE: DHCP server problem : Re: DtWsm function to detect occupation of all workspaces? Re: failed CXX installation? Re: failed CXX installation? Is my Itanic showing....at all? % Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not ) Re: Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not ) Re: Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not D More report systems compromised in 2003 than 2002 - Kiplinger Letter My, how the world changes  OT: Welcome FujitSUN& some storageworks canisters very cheap Re: Storing system files in CMS  Re: T4 and friends Re: Welcome FujitSUN Re: Welcome FujitSUN Re: Welcome FujitSUN Re: [LINUX]  [OT]: A view back   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:19:42 GMT , From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net>1 Subject: Re: CARTS LUG 9-June-2004 meeting update - Message-ID: <y29vc.32784$eY2.18653@attbi_s02>   L Actually at one of our steering committee meetings the subject of webcasting  a regular meeting was discussed.    After this, might discuss again.   Dave...   . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:VKOdnR4FsvosdCbdRVn-hQ@igs.net... > 9 > "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in message ( > news:TcPuc.22020$3x.14499@attbi_s54...@ > > Details now available for the 9-June-2004 CARTS LUG meeting: > > & > > http://eisner.decus.org/lugs/carts > >  >  > . > General comment about user group meetings... > H > This meeting is at the HP office where presumably lots of bandwidth isE > available. I'd love to see at some point in the not too far distant  future, L > all LUG meetings (all chapters) be available real-time via streaming audioI > or webcast. It's not hard to do and not costly - all it really needs is K > available bandwidth and a Mac or PC with the appropriate software (at the 3 > low end of the scale) and a mic / decent web cam.  > H > The meetings could be archived someplace (Ken, are you listening?) for those G > who are not in the same general time zone(s) to get during subsequent  > days/weeks/months. >  > My $0.02.  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:10:13 GMT ) From: Alfred Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> ' Subject: RE: Cluster disk mount problem 9 Message-ID: <Xns94FB7BCD0F067falkarcabca@198.161.157.145>    norm.raphael@metso.com wrote in > news:OF47634706.F4F16DFE-ON85256EA6.0059F72C-85256EA6.005A9BF8 @metso.com:    > D > "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> wrote on 05/31/2004 07:17:31 PM:6 > > From: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply>> >E >> > In article <Xns94FA9639518F7falkarcabca@198.161.157.145>, Alfred ) >> > Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> writes:  >> >= >> > >   %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, APP_A mounted on _$250$DIA310: (A) G >> > >   %MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in  >> > > progress  > A > If these disks are mounted/running on node A, why is he getting H > messages from the A node when attempting the mount on the C node (or I > misreading the -I- messages)?   I Because A is serving the disk to C.  (B is alternate host on DSSI bus in   this case.)   @ >> > > In past experience, I would say "no big deal", but now it >> > takes FOREVER@ >> > > to rebuild and all other activity on the disk in question >> > is locked out. @ >> > > Users get upset in a few minutes, I can't wait that long, >> > and so I've; >> > > had to press the Halt button and try something else.  >> > >= >> > > Anyone have any suggestions as to what could be wrong?  >> >F >> > No, but why not mount them /NOREBUILD and then rebuild them later@ >> > at your (and your users') convenience?  Also, once they are@ >> > mounted, you might be able to find out what the problem is.  H >> Not sure why the rebuild is taking so long, but normally it goes very >> quickly.  >>B >> Did this just begin to happen or has it been a gradual decline? >>? >> Here is suggestion that I have been using for mount command: + >> $ mount /system $250$DIA310: APP_A APP_A 1 >> $ spawn/nowait set volume/rebuild $250$DIA310: + >> $ mount /system $250$DIA311: APP_B APP_B 1 >> $ spawn/nowait set volume/rebuild $250$DIA311:  > ( > Wouldn't that still lock up the disks?   Yup.  E >> You could also do a daily batch job that runs at midnight and does A >> the following on each volume - you do not need to dismount the - >> driives: $ set volume/rebuild $250$DIAxxx:  > ! > This ISTM would be much better.   I But not really good enough.  I can't have disks out of service for hours   even at off-hours.  @ ----------------------------------------------------------------A   A L B E R T A         Alfred Falk               falk@arc.ab.ca  @ R E S E A R C H         Information Systems Dept   (780)450-5185+   C O U N C I L         250 Karl Clark Road 1                         Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  http://www.arc.ab.ca/   T6N 1E4   http://www.arc.ab.ca/staff/falk/   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:21:06 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)' Subject: RE: Cluster disk mount problem $ Message-ID: <c9ihei$85i$1@online.de>  E In article <Xns94FB745225489falkarcabca@198.161.157.145>, Alfred Falk   <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> writes:   I > That's a good suggestion and it is of some help.  Actually I've always  H > mounted most disks /NOREBUILD with a subsequent SET VOLUEM/REBUILD in J > batch.  In the days of VAX 8600 and RA81's this improved boot time by a E > lot.  However, certain disks I have allowed the rebuild on initial  F > mount, especially in recent years when the rebuilds have been quite  > fast.   G I let system disks rebuild at the initial mount, other disks I rebuild   in batch in the wee hours.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 15:57:10 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com' Subject: RE: Cluster disk mount problem Q Message-ID: <OF405377E7.08C87844-ON85256EA6.006CF580-85256EA6.006DC760@metso.com>   D Alfred Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> wrote on 06/01/2004 02:10:13 PM:  ! > norm.raphael@metso.com wrote in @ > news:OF47634706.F4F16DFE-ON85256EA6.0059F72C-85256EA6.005A9BF8
 > @metso.com:  >  > > F > > "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> wrote on 05/31/2004 07:17:31 PM:8 > > > From: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply>> >G > >> > In article <Xns94FA9639518F7falkarcabca@198.161.157.145>, Alfred + > >> > Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> writes:  > >> >? > >> > >   %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, APP_A mounted on _$250$DIA310: (A) I > >> > >   %MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in  > >> > > progress  > > C > > If these disks are mounted/running on node A, why is he getting J > > messages from the A node when attempting the mount on the C node (or I! > > misreading the -I- messages)?  > J > Because A is serving the disk to C.  (B is alternate host on DSSI bus in
 > this case.)  >    First reaction:  Oh!  E Second reaction:  Apparently, even so, each system is keeping its own D view of the allocation bitmap files, so the disk is "rebuilt" on theC node serving it, but "needs_rebuild" on the served node.  I had not E thought that would be the case, but thinking back the disk caches are ; kept and different on each machine.  Now I thought that set  volume/rebuild/forceH would flush the caches and "fix up" the disk.  Doesn't doing this from a "fast"1 system fix the problem on the "slower" system(s)?   B > >> > > In past experience, I would say "no big deal", but now it > >> > takes FOREVERB > >> > > to rebuild and all other activity on the disk in question > >> > is locked out. B > >> > > Users get upset in a few minutes, I can't wait that long, > >> > and so I've= > >> > > had to press the Halt button and try something else.  > >> > >? > >> > > Anyone have any suggestions as to what could be wrong?  > >> >H > >> > No, but why not mount them /NOREBUILD and then rebuild them laterB > >> > at your (and your users') convenience?  Also, once they areB > >> > mounted, you might be able to find out what the problem is. > J > >> Not sure why the rebuild is taking so long, but normally it goes very
 > >> quickly.  > >>D > >> Did this just begin to happen or has it been a gradual decline? > >>A > >> Here is suggestion that I have been using for mount command: - > >> $ mount /system $250$DIA310: APP_A APP_A 3 > >> $ spawn/nowait set volume/rebuild $250$DIA310: - > >> $ mount /system $250$DIA311: APP_B APP_B 3 > >> $ spawn/nowait set volume/rebuild $250$DIA311:  > > * > > Wouldn't that still lock up the disks? >  > Yup. > G > >> You could also do a daily batch job that runs at midnight and does C > >> the following on each volume - you do not need to dismount the / > >> driives: $ set volume/rebuild $250$DIAxxx:  > > # > > This ISTM would be much better.  > J > But not really good enough.  I can't have disks out of service for hours > even at off-hours. > B > ----------------------------------------------------------------B >   A L B E R T A         Alfred Falk               falk@arc.ab.caB > R E S E A R C H         Information Systems Dept   (780)450-5185- >   C O U N C I L         250 Karl Clark Road 3 >                         Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ! > http://www.arc.ab.ca/   T6N 1E4 " > http://www.arc.ab.ca/staff/falk/   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:24:32 +0000 (UTC)7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) ' Subject: Re: Cluster disk mount problem ( Message-ID: <c9is6g$76s$1@pcls4.std.com>  A Served access to a disk will always be slower than direct access. I Is it possible that, at a quiet time before booting C:: you could issue a J $ SET VOL/REBUILD=FORCE ddcu: from A::  This will go faster than a rebuild; from C::.  If not fast enough you can still ^Y the rebuild.   J Note that every time you halt C when trying to boot it, every drive it hadF mounted at that point will need a rebuild.  In case you were wonderingG "first time it mounted D1 and D2 OK but hung forever rebuilding D3, but % every time after it hung mounting D1"  --   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:58:23 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> Subject: DHCP server problem- Message-ID: <40BCA79F.3913.59EAF6B@localhost>   B I'm running the DHCP server from HP TCP/IP V5.4, OpenVMS V7.3-2.  E Every 3 minutes and 12 seconds, the server exits and re-starts.  The   log file for the server shows:   [...] 1 Listening on interfaces (name  ip  mask  bdcast): @          WE0  192.168.60.18     255.255.255.0     192.168.60.255   exiting on signal  Idle timeout expired0 JOIN server shutdown on Tuesday June 01 15:45:22 [...]   ) Anyone have an idea of how to stop this??   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:09:01 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   Subject: RE: DHCP server problem9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIEEIDDFAA.tom@kednos.com>   # Not that it helps, but 3'12" = 192"      -----Original Message-----9   From: Stanley F. Quayle [mailto:squayle@insight.rr.com] '   Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:58 PM    To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com    Subject: DHCP server problem      D   I'm running the DHCP server from HP TCP/IP V5.4, OpenVMS V7.3-2.  G   Every 3 minutes and 12 seconds, the server exits and re-starts.  The      log file for the server shows:      [...] 3   Listening on interfaces (name  ip  mask  bdcast): B            WE0  192.168.60.18     255.255.255.0     192.168.60.255      exiting on signal    Idle timeout expired2   JOIN server shutdown on Tuesday June 01 15:45:22   [...]    +   Anyone have an idea of how to stop this??       --Stan Quayle    Quayle Consulting Inc.      ----------/   Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 5   8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 2   stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com            --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004     --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:31:57 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> C Subject: Re: DtWsm function to detect occupation of all workspaces? 1 Message-ID: <xY3vc.2703$Uw.1871@news.cpqcorp.net>   I I'm not a CDE or Motif expert, but I don't think there is a simple way...   H The flags are part of a window property that is obtained by CDE from theJ routine _DtWsmGetWorkspaceHints().  This uses XmInternAtom() to lookup theF property "_DT_WORKSPACE_HINTS" and then uses XGetWindowProperty() (theB return from the XmInternAtom is passed as the property) to get theK structure.  It then pulls the wshints flag variable out of this and returns A it - and the low bit is the one that means occupy all workspaces.   F But outside of DTWM, I don't know if there is a way for the program toJ easily query this.  You can find the ATOM (XLSATOMS).  You would then needH to decrypt the structure.  The first longword is the version (I think itK needs to be > 5), the next longword says what's valid (bit 0 says the flags J are valid) and then the next longword would be the wshints flags, of whichI bit 0 is the one you care about.  If the first longword is <= 5 then it's L actually the valid flags, and the second longword is the wshints flags (they, added the version field at some later time).  G The guys who designed the UI were what I used to call GUI Nazi's.  They I didn't want programs to have control over certain things - they felt that K the *user* of the program should be the only one who should control things. + So they made it hard to do a lot of things.     4 "Joe Sewell" <ultrajoe@spamcop.net> wrote in message7 news:a55b951e.0405201038.51aa2979@posting.google.com... H > Is there a routine in CDE 1.2 (DECwindows/Motif 1.3-1) that will let aH > program detect whether it's been set to occupy *all* workspaces (usingC > "Occupy All Workspaces" or DtWsmOccupyAllWorkspaces) vs. manually F > occupying all existing workspaces?  (The difference is an Occupy AllD > Workspaces or equivalent will make the window occupy newly-createdE > workspaces, whereas occupying each workspace that exists does not.)    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:23:42 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)% Subject: Re: failed CXX installation? $ Message-ID: <c9ihje$85i$2@online.de>  E In article <40BBBC04.4A5D@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>, Michiel Erens 7 <I.dont.want.spam@this.mailaddress.is.invalid> writes:     > > MOVE_FILE CXX$PH_TEMP 6 > >  VMI$ROOT:[CXX$LIB.REFERENCE.CXXL$DEF_H]COMPLEX.H; >   C > You asked this same question a month ago. Here is the thread with  > the answer :  6 >  http://groups.google.com/groups?th=920c5942c8aa0f52  G Right, thinks.  My brain hurts!  Hoff's answer solved the problem then!    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:58:51 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)% Subject: Re: failed CXX installation? $ Message-ID: <c9ijlb$ani$1@online.de>  D In article <c9ihje$85i$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de3 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:    G > In article <40BBBC04.4A5D@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>, Michiel Erens 9 > <I.dont.want.spam@this.mailaddress.is.invalid> writes:   >  > > > MOVE_FILE CXX$PH_TEMP 8 > > >  VMI$ROOT:[CXX$LIB.REFERENCE.CXXL$DEF_H]COMPLEX.H; > >   E > > You asked this same question a month ago. Here is the thread with  > > the answer :  8 > >  http://groups.google.com/groups?th=920c5942c8aa0f52 > I > Right, thinks.  My brain hurts!  Hoff's answer solved the problem then!   E So, I updated the layered products on one VAX then, and am doing the  H same on another VAX now.  It's things like this which make me yearn for E an easy, stable, supported method of maintaining one master disk and  I propagating updates to other systems via shadow copies.  At most I would  G want to live with reconfiguring TCPIP if the ethernet controller has a  I different name (unfortunately, TCPIP doesn't have the clear SYS$SPECIFIC  I vs. SYS$COMMON logic).  Obviously, the idea would have to be to save the  D stuff in SYS$SPECIFIC, do a disk copy (relatively easy since all my I system disks are shadow sets) then put it back---without having to check  F by hand if something in SYS$SPECIFIC has changed (more a problem with 1 VMS upgrades than with layered-product upgrades).    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:41:22 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ( Subject: Is my Itanic showing....at all?, Message-ID: <U92dnaFADoTYrSDdRVn-jg@igs.net>  = http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/28/itanium_opteron_q104/   K ....The latest server data from Gartner shows that only 6,281 Itanium boxes H and 31,184 Opteron boxes were shipped in the first quarter of this year.L Together, Itanium and Opteron servers accounted for 37,000 of the 1.6m units moved in the period.I Just how bad is the state of the pubescent Itanic? Think of thriving acne $ with an outside chance of cleansing.   .....    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:28:32 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> . Subject: Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not, Message-ID: <6MKdnStQkuSJniDdRVn-tA@igs.net>  J The question is, how will HP handle it's relationship with BEA and whetherI that will have negative connotations for the VMS version of Weblogic, and / whether "on its servers" means OpenVMS as well.   - ---------------------------------------------   2 HP Lines Up MySQL, JBoss Alliance In Anti-IBM Move   (URL: J http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=50537)   By Barbara Darrow  CRN    9:59 PM EST Mon., May 31, 2004  F In another sign of shifting allegiances, Hewlett-Packard tomorrow willE announce broad-based support for the popular MySQL database and JBoss  application server. I Uppsala, Sweden-based MySQL pioneered a way to offer both open-source and D commercial versions of its wares, in what some say is proof that theJ open-source model and profitability need not be mutually exclusive. JBoss,F Atlanta,offers its software via an open source license but charges for maintenance and support.  G HP's move, which will include certifying the use of MySQL's open-source H database and the JBoss open-source application server on its servers, isG seen as a countermeasure to IBM's three-year-old noisy Linux push. That E Armonk, N.Y. computer giant has pledged allegiance, and big marketing D dollars, to open-source as a way to thwart the spread of Microsoft's$ software stack in customer accounts.  L IBM is positioning Linux as a viable competitor to Windows -- and Unix -- inF business accounts. But, it has been loathe to offer a similarly publicL endorsement of Linux or open-source software that competes with its own DB2-F and WebSphere-branded database and application server, observers said.  I HP can use its new allies to wrest enterprise and SMB deals away from IBM L with two software offerings that have huge buzz in the market. Even solutionI providers offering Microsoft SQL Server, IBM DB2 and Oracle databases say I MySQL is gaining credibility even in mission-critical applications. That, H despite the fact, that the commercial database costs just $400 or so per server.   I In fact the Linux database segment was by far the fastest growing part of L the database market for the last calendar year, according to researcher IDC.H (Of course it was growing from a much smaller base than Unix and Windows databases.)   F HP's alignment with JBoss also could cause a competitive stir with BEAI Systems, which competes fiercely with both IBM and JBoss Inc. in the J2EE K application-server market. HP and BEA have a tight relationship to sell and G deploy the BEA WebLogic software platform on HP servers. In fact, BEA's K recent deal signing its first-ever U.S. distribution deal with Agilysys was B mostly due to the fact that Agilysys carries the HP hardware line.  C Also an ally of Microsoft, HP has to weigh its "coopetitive" stance G carefully. The company has recently shown notable independence from its J colleague, announcing joint deals with Microsoft competitors including oneJ with Apple Computer in January on an HP-branded iPod. This spring, HP saidK it was teaming with Novell to offer the SUSE Linux desktop on select HP and  Compaq machines.  D Microsoft clearly views Linux specifically, and open-source softwareK generally, as a threat to its market-leading Windows operating system. (See H story.) HP's divided loyalties show how nervous Microsoft makes even its largest partners.   G Sources confirmed the HP-JBoss-MySQL deal, but would not comment on the  record.   G In January, JBoss and MySQL, which share many joint accounts, agreed to G collaborate on marketing their respective products together. (See CRN.)    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Jun 2004 02:42:53 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com 2 Subject: Re: Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not, Message-ID: <c9jerd01cmq@enews2.newsguy.com>  " John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote:L > The question is, how will HP handle it's relationship with BEA and whetherK > that will have negative connotations for the VMS version of Weblogic, and 1 > whether "on its servers" means OpenVMS as well. / > --------------------------------------------- 4 > HP Lines Up MySQL, JBoss Alliance In Anti-IBM Move   > (URL: L > http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=50537)  E When I read this yesterday, I rather took it to mean on their servers I running Linux.  Though I wouldn't mind seeing them support it on OpenVMS.    		Zane   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:50:55 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 2 Subject: Re: Maybe this is good for VMS, maybe not< Message-ID: <jgbvc.3796$MY2.2880@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>   John Smith wrote: L > The question is, how will HP handle it's relationship with BEA and whetherK > that will have negative connotations for the VMS version of Weblogic, and 1 > whether "on its servers" means OpenVMS as well.  > / > ---------------------------------------------  > 4 > HP Lines Up MySQL, JBoss Alliance In Anti-IBM Move >  > (URL: L > http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/breakingnews.asp?ArticleID=50537) >  > By Barbara Darrow  > CRN  >   > 9:59 PM EST Mon., May 31, 2004 > H > In another sign of shifting allegiances, Hewlett-Packard tomorrow willG > announce broad-based support for the popular MySQL database and JBoss  > application server. K > Uppsala, Sweden-based MySQL pioneered a way to offer both open-source and F > commercial versions of its wares, in what some say is proof that theL > open-source model and profitability need not be mutually exclusive. JBoss,H > Atlanta,offers its software via an open source license but charges for > maintenance and support. > I > HP's move, which will include certifying the use of MySQL's open-source J > database and the JBoss open-source application server on its servers, isI > seen as a countermeasure to IBM's three-year-old noisy Linux push. That G > Armonk, N.Y. computer giant has pledged allegiance, and big marketing F > dollars, to open-source as a way to thwart the spread of Microsoft's& > software stack in customer accounts. > N > IBM is positioning Linux as a viable competitor to Windows -- and Unix -- inH > business accounts. But, it has been loathe to offer a similarly publicN > endorsement of Linux or open-source software that competes with its own DB2-H > and WebSphere-branded database and application server, observers said. > K > HP can use its new allies to wrest enterprise and SMB deals away from IBM N > with two software offerings that have huge buzz in the market. Even solutionK > providers offering Microsoft SQL Server, IBM DB2 and Oracle databases say K > MySQL is gaining credibility even in mission-critical applications. That, J > despite the fact, that the commercial database costs just $400 or so per	 > server.  > K > In fact the Linux database segment was by far the fastest growing part of N > the database market for the last calendar year, according to researcher IDC.J > (Of course it was growing from a much smaller base than Unix and Windows
 > databases.)  > H > HP's alignment with JBoss also could cause a competitive stir with BEAK > Systems, which competes fiercely with both IBM and JBoss Inc. in the J2EE M > application-server market. HP and BEA have a tight relationship to sell and I > deploy the BEA WebLogic software platform on HP servers. In fact, BEA's M > recent deal signing its first-ever U.S. distribution deal with Agilysys was D > mostly due to the fact that Agilysys carries the HP hardware line. > E > Also an ally of Microsoft, HP has to weigh its "coopetitive" stance I > carefully. The company has recently shown notable independence from its L > colleague, announcing joint deals with Microsoft competitors including oneL > with Apple Computer in January on an HP-branded iPod. This spring, HP saidM > it was teaming with Novell to offer the SUSE Linux desktop on select HP and  > Compaq machines. > F > Microsoft clearly views Linux specifically, and open-source softwareM > generally, as a threat to its market-leading Windows operating system. (See J > story.) HP's divided loyalties show how nervous Microsoft makes even its > largest partners.  > I > Sources confirmed the HP-JBoss-MySQL deal, but would not comment on the 	 > record.  > I > In January, JBoss and MySQL, which share many joint accounts, agreed to I > collaborate on marketing their respective products together. (See CRN.)  >  >   I I really don't see MySQL as a prime-time ready database engine. It works  I for a lot really small apps -- and this is not bad, but to say that this  G database can keep up with Oracle, Rdb, DB2 and Sybase as an enterprise  F database is a stretch.  It's security is a bit lacking -- at least in I the versions I have seen.  The ports to VMS have been decent, but I seem  D to be able to crash the MySQL daemon fairly easily  (4.1.1 from the ; freeware CD) with what seems to be a fairly simple request.   H but if given the proper attention, this could be a very good niche-type H database.  Not every database needs to be enterprise class, but it does  need to work...      m.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:09:04 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.comM Subject: More report systems compromised in 2003 than 2002 - Kiplinger Letter Q Message-ID: <OF04A73C0F.85892B66-ON85256EA6.0063510E-85256EA6.0063E1B8@metso.com>   , Outside hacker attacks are also on the rise.. More than 80% of executives surveyed this year/ reported that their IT systems were compromised , last year. That's double the number in 2002.    9 I wonder if this is an increase in reporting or in actual  compromises.  7 I wonder if this is due to a proliferation of unsecured  Windows systems....   ? I wonder if there is an OpenVMS add hidden in this survey data.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:41:02 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> " Subject: My, how the world changes, Message-ID: <CK2dnc64sb-PiSDdRVn-uw@igs.net>  @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/03/24/more_alpha_details_seep/  ) More Alpha details seep from Compaq sieve 
 By Mike Magee - Published Wednesday 24th March 1999 10:42 GMT B Once more we have received NDA details of Compaq's future plans onC microprocessors and operating systems. And although we have already I published quite a lot of this information already, the info does not come G this time from our mole deep in Texas. It is from an NDA'd presentation L towards the end of last year. According to the document, Compaq thinks AlphaJ still has 19 years of life left in it, and at the end of last year, 12,177L apps were available on the platform, compared to 3,864 on OpenVMS. The AlphaH platform is a key component of Microsoft's alliance with Compaq and "bugI free", the company claims. It states that the EV8 will arrive in the year K 2002 and the EV9 in the year 2005. EV7 goals include large cache on chip, a ? built in memory controller, lock stepping to replace the Tandem K architecture, four thread symmetric multiprocessing, and Rambus technology, K while EV8 will have twice the performance of Intel's McKinley architecture, E claims Compaq. The Alpha systems will be marketed as an Open Standard J system, via Established Channels and branded as Alpha Powered from Compaq.J According to the source, Microsoft has licensed "key parts" of the OpenVMSL kernel to be used in future versions of Window NT, and many OpenVMS featuresH will only be supported on the Alpha version. Tru64 and Tandem NonStop UX will be merged. .....    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jun 2004 18:21:13 -0700 . From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: OT: Welcome FujitSUN = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0406011721.315076f3@posting.google.com>    Click     G http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2004-06/sunflash.20040601.14.html      Regards    FC   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 22:04:05 -0400+ From: Lord Isildur <isildur@andrew.cmu.edu> / Subject: some storageworks canisters very cheap I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0406012201530.14872@unix44.andrew.cmu.edu>   G I have four wide storageworks canisters and two sca ones, available for C the price of a good lamb curry in pittsburgh, pa. I'm not extremely F interested in shipping them anywhere, but if someone makes it worth my while, i would.    isildur    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 22:51:13 -04005 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com> ( Subject: Re: Storing system files in CMS0 Message-ID: <10bqg569ek25h76@corp.supernews.com>  5 "Phil Pulley" <pulley_p@hotmail.com> wrote in message 6 news:7041fc41.0406010707.cfe30ee@posting.google.com...; > I am trying to store the following system files in CMS...  >  > Sysuaf.dat > Vms$audit_server.dat > vue$profile.vue$dat  >   L Any chance you are on an ODS-5 disk, and, you actually have case sensitivityI turned on?  Some versions (all?) really don't handle lower case elements.    Just a guess  
 Brad McCusker    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:21:46 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: T4 and friends + Message-ID: <40BD39BA.25F3B626@comcast.net>    jf.pieronne@laposte.net wrote: >  > I have put on D > http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jfp/t4/t4chart/screenshots/ > N > some screen's capture of an early version of a chart tools for T4 data store > into a MySQL database. > N > The database builder/loader is written in Python, the chart program in Java. > M > They can run on any system which support Python and Java (VMS :-), Windows,  > MACOS, linux,...)  > 9 > If someone wants to play with these tools, let me know.    Well, the simpler the better.   D One key item to remember: in order to be truly valuable, performanceH reporting solutions *MUST* be 100% automated. They *MUST* be able to run2 in batch, unattended, scheduled by whatever means.  F Ideally, any such solution should produce ASCII graphs (histograms ala6 SPM or PSPA), PostScript, etc. at the user's election.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:28:24 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: Re: Welcome FujitSUN , Message-ID: <t_ydncoGTdShsCDdRVn-iQ@igs.net>  ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message 7 news:f30679fb.0406011721.315076f3@posting.google.com...  > Click  >  > I > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2004-06/sunflash.20040601.14.html     J I wonder what the odds Ladbrokes or the bookies in Vegas would give on the= Sun/Fujitsu partnership being more successful than HP/Itanic?    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Jun 2004 22:57:49 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)  Subject: Re: Welcome FujitSUNV3 Message-ID: <T1iFh9GXp$9$@eisner.encompasserve.org>n  R In article <t_ydncoGTdShsCDdRVn-iQ@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: > = > "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messages9 > news:f30679fb.0406011721.315076f3@posting.google.com...e >> Click >> >>J >> http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2004-06/sunflash.20040601.14.html >  > L > I wonder what the odds Ladbrokes or the bookies in Vegas would give on the? > Sun/Fujitsu partnership being more successful than HP/Itanic?o >   C 	Not much.  Sun/Fujitsu deal is to save money.  Market is shrinkingi8 	for them, wisdom dictates they combine forces and slash 	appropriately.e   				RobS   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 06:57:26 +0200* From: "Karsten Nyblad" <nospam@nospam.com> Subject: Re: Welcome FujitSUNc, Message-ID: <c9jmnu$b8v$1@news.cybercity.dk>  ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message-7 news:f30679fb.0406011721.315076f3@posting.google.com... I > http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2004-06/sunflash.20040601.14.htmlm  L In the old days there was a UK computer company called ICL.  It did not haveK the money to develop its own CPUs, so it started buying Fujitsi.  Later, ittG got in even more trouble, and because of ICL buying Fujitsi, ICL had nohK choice but to let Fujitsi buy ICL.  It seems like the links www.icl.com andeI www.icl.co.uk are not working, at least when I tried this morning.  Try as5 search on Google for Fujitsi and ICL.  Very few hits.i  G I hope for SUN that McNeally has been reading every single comma in the.I contract, or SUN will be the next company eaten by Fujitsi.  I wonder how. Andrew will spin this.   Karsten Nyblad ibpit1202 at sneakemail dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:30:52 +0100 # From: peter.watkinson1@ntlworld.comp Subject: Re: [LINUX]8 Message-ID: <njipb05qh83nj52cve5vgb4jup7kei4n1l@4ax.com>  A On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:43:38 +0100, peter.watkinson1@ntlworld.comn wrote:  G >On Thu, 27 May 2004 17:05:52 -0400, "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com>  >wrote:e >w >>I >>> I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images tog+ >>> swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.e >>>i >>> Any clues? >>& >>Yeah, get an Intel box to run Linux. >>G >>Alphas are meant to run (Hobbiest) OpenVMS (or Tru64 if you have to).0 >>M >>I like Alphas, but I'm not about to create a constant streams of hurdles inC >>my life and run Linux on one.gN >>You are doing this to learn re-usable technical skills no? Not just to prove >>is can be done no?L >>How valuabable will it be for future business opportunities to know how to >>dual boot an Alpha?pK >>Or how usefull will it be to run (barebones?) Linux on it and how to findT# >>any and all missing drivers/rpm'ss@ >>Wow, you'll be able to use native 'vi' on your alpha. Whoopee! >>M >>Sorry if sound too sarcastic. I'm sure it'll be 'neat' to have Linux on the5 >>Alpha. >>K >>Oh... btw... you know what i did in my weekend? reloaded Linux on a fresh>F >>120GB drive in my CD player, and installed Apache and an MP3 servingI >>package, doing 'vi /etc/smb.conf' and fun stuff like that. So now I can L >>stream MP3 from my CD player/Jukebox to any PC and use the CD player as anH >>'always on' file server.  Next taks: a cddb or freedb (perl) script to> >>post-associated already ripped, but nameless, CDs with their# >>album/artits/track info. Whoopee!  >> >>:-)i >> >> >> >i >uF >yeah why not run a shit os on shit hardware. If your going to use x86@ >might as well use Microsoft - no use in reinventing the wheel.  >tG >Have Debian on a couple of Alphas, plus VMS and tru64 on one. Can't beo? >bothered to run linux on x86 PITA enough as it is on an Alpha.t  E Maybe I was a bit harsh. One of my Alphas will only run Linux/BSD and)A no not even NT(It's not a ux) you can use linux on alpha for some A usefull things it's just Work in Progress (maybe less so on x86).t       >l   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 21:25:41 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>l Subject: [OT]: A view back, Message-ID: <t_ydncsGTdShsCDdRVn-iQ@igs.net>  8 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/01/colossus_remade/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.304 ************************