1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 04 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 308       Contents:  Re: Announcing WHOIS version 1.6  Re: Announcing WHOIS version 1.6  Re: backup of empty directories!8 Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem"8 Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem"8 Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem"8 Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem" CDE not coming up  Re: Cluster disk mount problem CSWS 2.0 + TCPware 5.6 ??? Curious about MOP file copy  Re: Curious about MOP file copy  Re: Curious about MOP file copy 7 Re: HP developer resources for porting from unix to VMS E Re: Is VAX/VMS V1.0/V2.0 available for download in SIMH .TAP format ? 
 NFS how to Re: NFS how to Re: NFS how to Re: Not adding up? Re: Not adding up?# Print file to two seperate printers ' Re: Print file to two seperate printers @ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals@ Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals Sun v440s with an EVA3000? Re: Sun v440s with an EVA3000? Re: Sun v440s with an EVA3000? Trying to do sftp via batch job % Re: Vaxstation 3100 and graphics card   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:00:00 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> ) Subject: Re: Announcing WHOIS version 1.6 ; Message-ID: <4rLvc.4291$yJ6.320@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    JF Mezei wrote: O > WHOIS version 1.6 has been released. This is a freeware utility to fill a gap 9 > in the TCPIP Services product which lacks this utility.  > 
 > 1.6 sports:  > 4 > - an updated list of whois servers for most .TLDs.Z > - support for AS number requests through table of AS number ranges and their authorities > - improved parsing of query 2 > - added /HOST qualifier (equivalent to /SERVER)  >  >  > It is available through: > ) > http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/whois.html  > ' > Comments/problem reports appreciated.    It is now USABLE through+ < http://www.firstdbasource.com/whois.php >   	 Try it... H it is very interesting that nobody.org and nowhere.com actually exist...   M.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:26:52 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ) Subject: Re: Announcing WHOIS version 1.6 @ Message-ID: <9cf9447e5b6a691d7d2a0301abfccfa8@news.teranews.com>   Michael Austin wrote:  > > It is available through: > > + > > http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/whois.html  > > ) > > Comments/problem reports appreciated.  >  > It is now USABLE through- > < http://www.firstdbasource.com/whois.php >   > Do I get royaltyies for every use of my software on the net ?    :-) :-) :-)   = It is rewarding to see one's software to be put to such uses.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 16:42:36 -0400* From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>) Subject: Re: backup of empty directories! 4 Message-ID: <p3Mvc.7205$Xy3.22844@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>   Funny   E I more than once had a problem in that OpenVMS would not BACKUP empty  directories to my destination.B That was when using BACKUP to copy files from one disk to another. And this a a BACKUP limitation.   , But iirc that was for root directories only.  & A /EXCLUDE would probably work for youL .DIRs would automatically be created if they contrain files, but not if they don`t.   --   Syltrem    OpenVMS 7.3-1 + Oracle 8.1.7.4H http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site, en franais)% ---zulu is not in my email address--- ? "John Brandon" <brandon@dalsemi.com> a crit dans le message de + news:04060309313890@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com...  > domen.setar@izum.si writes:  > > Hi admins!J > > I want to make a backup of a directory tree with all files in it, whatH > > is not a problem. But I want to exclude all empty directories in the# > > tree. How to do that? Any idea?  > > Thank you!	 > > Domen  >  > $ BACKUP /EXCLU=(*.DIR) ...  > K > However BACKUP will back them up anyway... I hear it is a feature of VMS.  >  > = > Have you tried to set the directory structures to NOBACKUP?  >  > $ SET FILE /NOBACKUP *.DIR > $ BACKUP ... > : > I have not done this but would be curious if it works... >  >  >  > J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  > VMS Systems Administrator , > firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 12:18:38 -0700 . From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)A Subject: Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem" = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0406031118.26e6c1ed@posting.google.com>   \ labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr> wrote in message news:<c9n130$u82$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr>... > Hello  > K > I heared this morning at the radio that all british airports were closed    > because of a computer problem. > K > If somebody has more information than "a technical problem has occured",    > I will be happy to read it :-) > I > Is it an operating system problem, a problem with an important program   > used, something else ? > 	 > Regards  >  > Gerard  ? It sais they still using IBM Mainframes... upgraded recently !   But with 70s code ! :-)    / http://www.computerweekly.com/Article111738.htm    Regards    FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:19:51 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>A Subject: Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem" B Message-ID: <40bf87e7$0$13307$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:  ^ > labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr> wrote in message news:<c9n130$u82$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr>... >  >>Hello  >>K >>I heared this morning at the radio that all british airports were closed    >>because of a computer problem. >>K >>If somebody has more information than "a technical problem has occured",    >>I will be happy to read it :-) >>I >>Is it an operating system problem, a problem with an important program   >>used, something else ? >>	 >>Regards  >> >>Gerard >  > A > It sais they still using IBM Mainframes... upgraded recently !   > But with 70s code ! :-) >  > 1 > http://www.computerweekly.com/Article111738.htm  > 	 > Regards  >  > FC    > Hmmm... I wonder why they didn't use the ADMAR 2000 ATC System% Developed for Eurocontrol on OpenVMS?   ' See the bottom of the following page... 5 http://www.tni-world.com/flashmx/cp_hood_examples.asp      Eurocontrol can be found at... http://www.eurocontrol.int/     9 Notice that there are many other well known aerospace and < transportation products that are greatly or partly developed6 using code developed on OpenVMS, especially using ADA.  < Some more interesting links (search for VMS on each page)...+ http://www.rajaniemi.com/data/diduknow.html 4 http://www.swep-eds.com/XD%20Ada%20Info/xd%20ada.htmA http://www.armada.ch/02-5/complete_02-5.pdf (see pages 56 and 66) * http://www.tni-world.com/flashmx/tiger.asp: http://www.tni-europe.com/tnie/casestudies/eurofighter.htm+ http://www.tni-world.com/flashmx/airbus.asp  http://adaic.org/atwork/% http://www.adaic.org/atwork/euro.html & http://www.adaic.org/atwork/paris.html( http://www.adaic.org/atwork/control.html# http://www.adaic.org/atwork/pw.html * http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/tgv.html1 http://www.esoc.esa.de/external/mso/computer.html E http://www.nasda.go.jp/pr/event/app/spaceops/paper98/track2/2b013.pdf : http://www.esoc.esa.de/external/mso/SpaceOps/2_05/2_05.pdf/ http://www.esoc.esa.de/external/mso/simsat.html / http://www.esoc.esa.de/external/mso/speval.html   9 This is by no means a comprehensive list. There's more...    Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 18:40:51 -0400# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> A Subject: Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem" , Message-ID: <eISdnTDiOvRvNSLdRVn-uw@igs.net>  = "Keith Cayemberg" <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> wrote in message < news:40bf87e7$0$13307$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net... > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > 1 > > labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr> wrote in message . news:<c9n130$u82$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr>... > > 	 > >>Hello  > >>L > >>I heared this morning at the radio that all british airports were closed" > >>because of a computer problem. > >>L > >>If somebody has more information than "a technical problem has occured"," > >>I will be happy to read it :-) > >>J > >>Is it an operating system problem, a problem with an important program > >>used, something else ? > >> > >>Regards  > >>
 > >>Gerard > >  > > B > > It sais they still using IBM Mainframes... upgraded recently ! > > But with 70s code ! :-) > >  > > 3 > > http://www.computerweekly.com/Article111738.htm  > >  > > Regards  > >  > > FC >  > @ > Hmmm... I wonder why they didn't use the ADMAR 2000 ATC System' > Developed for Eurocontrol on OpenVMS?  > ) > See the bottom of the following page... 7 > http://www.tni-world.com/flashmx/cp_hood_examples.asp  >  >   > Eurocontrol can be found at... > http://www.eurocontrol.int/  >  > ; > Notice that there are many other well known aerospace and > > transportation products that are greatly or partly developed8 > using code developed on OpenVMS, especially using ADA.  
 <..snip..>  J I thought that a certified ADA wasn't making the port to Itanic. CertainlyB the HP IA64 roadkil'....er...roadmap does not mention Ada as being
 available.L http://www.hp.com/products1/evolution/alpha_retaintrust/download/openvms_mov e.pdf    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:44:01 GMT 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>A Subject: Re: british airports "freezed" due to "computer problem" @ Message-ID: <8bbcfde3834d819b636377438cab1be1@news.teranews.com>  , In article <eISdnTDiOvRvNSLdRVn-uw@igs.net>,%  "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote:   L > I thought that a certified ADA wasn't making the port to Itanic. CertainlyD > the HP IA64 roadkil'....er...roadmap does not mention Ada as being > available.  F There will be an Ada 95, but not a port of the existing Ada 83.  Type E "ada" and "itanium" into Google and the first thing that comes up is:   $ http://www.gnat.com/pressroom_05.php   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 13:52:33 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: CDE not coming up9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEMKDFAA.tom@kednos.com>   A Moved the system drive from PWS600 to an XP1000 and put back into A cluster in place of the PWS600  The former had Diamond Multimedia D controller and the latter Elsa Gloria.  Is the latter not recognized. by OpenVMS or is something else perhaps amiss? --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 16:43:51 -0600 4 From: cornelius@encompasserve.org (George Cornelius)' Subject: Re: Cluster disk mount problem 3 Message-ID: <c9OjtYT0Lxei@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <Xns94FA9639518F7falkarcabca@198.161.157.145>, Alfred Falk <falk@arc.REMOVE.ab.ca> writes:    > NEW configuration:  > node A:: DS20 6/500-2, 1024 MB  > node B:: DS10 6/600,   1024 MB  > node C:: AS 800 5/500,  512 MB   [...]   K [excised included comment about A,B being directly connected to the drives]   J > [node C] will boot okay if I don't mount any disks.  However, when I tryF > to mount disks that had been previously mounted, I get message like: > 8 >   %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, APP_A mounted on _$250$DIA310: (A)K >   %MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress  > J > In past experience, I would say "no big deal", but now it takes FOREVER L > to rebuild and all other activity on the disk in question is locked out.  H > Users get upset in a few minutes, I can't wait that long, and so I've 6 > had to press the Halt button and try something else.  D  (1) Do the rebuild on one of the _serving_ nodes before booting theD       third node.  It should run much faster, especially if you haveA       only 10mbit/sec connectivity [or, as someone has suggested, D       network problems].  If you can't find a quiet time to do this,B       schedule it with your users as an actual down time.  They'llA       be pleasantly surprised to find the cluster isn't down for  4       long and they don't have to log in afterwards.  @       NOTE: The suggestion that rebuilds have to be done on each%       node individually is incorrect.   @  (2) Change the third node (and perhaps the others) to boot with?       /NOREBUILD and have a rebuild job submitted for off hours :       to a batch queue. You could use something like this:  5            $ stime=f$cvtime("today+23:15","absolute") 5            $ if f$cvtime("+1:00",,"hour").le.2 then - 1                stime=f$cvtime("+1:00","absolute") B            $ submit/after="''stime'"/queue=rebuild_queue/noprint -                disk_rebuild_job   C       rebuild_queue would have /JOB_LIMIT=1 and would of course run >        on the server nodes, say with /AUTOSTART_ON=(A::,B::) .  C  (3) If rebuilds remain slow even after step (1) (remember, use the A       serving nodes only), make sure you have backups and then do   &            $ ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR ddnn:  D And don't forget to check for hardware problems (use decevent/webes/# whatever) before starting step (1).    --9 George Cornelius              cornelius@encompasserve.org 0                               cornelius@mayo.edu   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:10:43 -0400) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> # Subject: CSWS 2.0 + TCPware 5.6 ??? < Message-ID: <VdOvc.113141$tb4.4434480@news20.bellglobal.com>   Hello,  J Has anyone out there got Compaq Secure Web Server 2.0 to work with TCPwareI 5.6 ?  When I tried to start the server only one log was written and here  are the contents:    file: APACHE$SWS.LOG;2  
 $ Set NoOn/ $ VERIFY = F$VERIFY(F$TRNLNM("SYLOGIN_VERIFY")) K apache$httpd.exe;1: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain $ name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerNameC (76)function not implemented : make_sock: could not bind to address 
 0.0.0.0:80- no listening sockets available, shutting down  Unable to open logs 3 APACHE$WWW job terminated at 3-JUN-2004 18:49:46.70   	 * * * * *   , Removing 2.0 and reinstalling 1.3 does work.      
 Neil Rieck Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.  http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 15:40:59 -0400" From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>$ Subject: Curious about MOP file copy- Message-ID: <c9nura$8ur@library2.airnews.net>   J     I recall seeing a uility somewhere that could make a cient request viaI MOP to have a MOP server send a file to the client... this was an openvms J utility that would make the request and then store the file on the OpenVMSK server... it could be used where two systems are accessible via MOP but not  Decenet or IP....    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:59:07 +0200 " From: labadie <labadie_g@decus.fr>( Subject: Re: Curious about MOP file copy2 Message-ID: <c9o0do$mdk$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr>   Hal Kuff a crit :L >     I recall seeing a uility somewhere that could make a cient request viaK > MOP to have a MOP server send a file to the client... this was an openvms L > utility that would make the request and then store the file on the OpenVMSM > server... it could be used where two systems are accessible via MOP but not  > Decenet or IP....  >  > = mc ncp trigger... phys add ... via ... service password ... ?    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:00:04 -0400" From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>( Subject: Re: Curious about MOP file copy- Message-ID: <c9o3fm$bv5@library2.airnews.net>   H True, but what I was looking for was a way to use MOP to actually copy aI file from one system to another where decnet and ip are not available due ; the intervening routers/bridgy things but MOP will pass....     / "labadie" <labadie_g@decus.fr> wrote in message , news:c9o0do$mdk$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr... > Hal Kuff a crit :J > >     I recall seeing a uility somewhere that could make a cient request via E > > MOP to have a MOP server send a file to the client... this was an  openvms F > > utility that would make the request and then store the file on the OpenVMS K > > server... it could be used where two systems are accessible via MOP but  not  > > Decenet or IP....  > >  > > ? > mc ncp trigger... phys add ... via ... service password ... ?    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:55:06 GMT 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>@ Subject: Re: HP developer resources for porting from unix to VMS@ Message-ID: <260eeca58a800d656a4d053441c92a57@news.teranews.com>  2 > > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message* > > news:5cOdnTT-BKpWbSDdRVn-hw@igs.net... > > > Q > > > Since the ISV is not about to let us look 'under the kimono' at their code, Q > > > all I can hope to do is point them to all official and unofficial resources O > > > to help an application developer see the light and learn how to port that  > > > piece of code to OpenVMS.   F Someone needs to look under the kimono, or at least have described to F them what's there.  You've gotten lots of good general advice, but it G may not be worth much without knowing something about what language or  D languages, architectural features, APIs, build tools, and auxiliary G packages or libraries are involved.  You could tell them lots and lots  H about mailboxes and global sections, for example, only to find out that B there's no inter-process communication, or go on and on about the G VMS-specific aspects of tuning large directories containing many small  E files, only to find out that the documents are stored as blobs in an   RDBMS.  F Forgive me if this has been mentioned already in this thread, but one H thing you can encourage them to do is get a test drive account and just " try building and see what happens:  # http://www.testdrive.hp.com/os/#vms   N > Another interesting potential solution we've been looking at possibly taking: > a stab at porting ourselves is at http://www.dspace.org/  A Since it runs on the Java platform, what exactlly do you mean by  
 "porting"?  H > Notice that HP had more than a helping hand in this but apparently didA > absolutely zero, nada, nil, nichts about making it OpenVMS-able  > out-of-the-box..  G Yes, HP was quite silly not to be promoting their competitor's product  6 in June, 2000.  Can't imagine what they were thinking.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 20:25:41 +0200, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>N Subject: Re: Is VAX/VMS V1.0/V2.0 available for download in SIMH .TAP format ?* Message-ID: <2i98u6FkttqcU1@uni-berlin.de>  7 "Wayne Sewell" <wayne@tachysoft.com> schreef in bericht ) news:00A32C7C.37800051.1@tachysoft.com... E > >From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)  > >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsK > >Subject: Is VAX/VMS V1.0/V2.0 available for download in SIMH .TAP format  ? " > >Date: 2 Jun 2004 11:52:35 -0600 > >Organization: Encompasserve > >Lines: 146 > >Message-ID: <tpzZJpZJnLtD@eisner.encompasserve.org> > > % > >No, I haven't finally lost it. :-)  > > J > >I never ran the early versions of VMS, and I am curious to see how they > >differ from today's VMS.  > > 8 > >As for the legalities, this is for hobbyist use only. > >  > K > Does simh support pdp compatibility mode?  The very early versions of vms  had a K > lot of system utilities that ran in compatibility mode rather than native  vax. > J No, simh emulates a VAX 3900. The PDP-11 instruction set is present in the
 VAX 11/7nn4 models only, including the VAX 8600 and 8650 models.L The VAX 3900 needs at the earliest VMS 5.2 or perhaps 5.3 to boot. My memory
 is awfullyG vague but I remember that the VAX 8250 and 8350 being current when V5.0  arrived.D The VAX(station) 2000 was current and possibly early versions of the VAXstation 3100 series.   I The reason VAX cpu's are tied to VMS versions is that there are more than  one implementations C of the VAX instruction set and different hardware (cpu-bus, memory)  architectures. The PDP-11 C instruction set was a lot smaller and though you could add optional  instructions the base os used E the instruction set common to all cpu's. IIRC loading a PDP-11 os was  basically reading block 0 G from a load device at location %o1000 and start from that base address.  Loading VMS is a little  more elaborate.    Hans   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 00:18:11 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: NFS how to 0 Message-ID: <00A32D30.681CB91C@SendSpamHere.ORG>   Anyone using TCPIP services?   Whatever happened to examples?  H How do I setup, for example, my system disk so I can NFS mount it on my 
 powerbook?    --  B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 02:58:35 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>  Subject: Re: NFS how to < Message-ID: <vzRvc.4368$eb1.4261@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > Anyone using TCPIP services? >   > Whatever happened to examples? > J > How do I setup, for example, my system disk so I can NFS mount it on my  > powerbook? >   
 @tcpip$config      Services        enable portmapper        enable nfs    tcpip      help create              directory              container           add proxy   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Jun 2004 04:09:58 GMT  From: healyzh@aracnet.com  Subject: Re: NFS how to , Message-ID: <c9osmm01svt@enews2.newsguy.com>   VAXman- wrote: > Anyone using TCPIP services?    > Whatever happened to examples?  J > How do I setup, for example, my system disk so I can NFS mount it on my  > powerbook?  7 It's a bit of a pain.  Appletalk is easier to setup :^)   G Here are my notes that I got from somewhere (here probably) on setting  	 up NFS...   ; To add NFS exports, or machines/users that can access them: ; > > ADD MAP "<unix_Style_dir_name>" <VMS_disk_or_directory> . > > ADD export "<unix_Style_dir_name>" /host=*B > > ADD proxy <vms_username> /uid=<vms_uid> /gid=<vms_gid> /host=* > > /nfs=(outgoing,incoming)  I Of course since Apple has kept the wierd NeXTstep NetInfo mess, and since J they seem to be discouraging NFS, mounting the disk on your PowerBook will be fun.    		Zane   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 12:49:22 -0700 # From: perfnerd@yahoo.com (perfnerd)  Subject: Re: Not adding up? < Message-ID: <94d3aca5.0406031149.96943e3@posting.google.com>  d "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in message news:<8ImdncfsSKbepiLdRVn-uw@mpowercom.net>...2 > > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message+ >  news:<U92dnaFADoTYrSDdRVn-jg@igs.net>... C > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/28/itanium_opteron_q104/  > > > K > > > ....The latest server data from Gartner shows that only 6,281 Itanium  >  boxesN > > > and 31,184 Opteron boxes were shipped in the first quarter of this year. > > J > The numbers for Itanium don't seem to be adding up.  I thought Intel hadN > shipped 100,000+ Itanium CPUs last year?  What are the year on year shippingN > numbers?  Are all those 6281 boxes last quarter fitted with at least 4 CPUs? >   Jack Peacock  : Since the average price for the Itanium box is $45,000 andC 100K/6281=~16, so I would think that puts the average box in the 16 A CPU range.  While the Opteron sales appear to be in the 1 - 2 CPU  range.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 13:45:51 -0700* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> Subject: Re: Not adding up? 2 Message-ID: <5NWdnZwiuuCdEyLd4p2dnA@mpowercom.net>  0 "perfnerd" <perfnerd@yahoo.com> wrote in message6 news:94d3aca5.0406031149.96943e3@posting.google.com...  < > Since the average price for the Itanium box is $45,000 andE > 100K/6281=~16, so I would think that puts the average box in the 16 C > CPU range.  While the Opteron sales appear to be in the 1 - 2 CPU  > range. > K The article was about shipping for the quarter, so I assumed 4 CPUs instead L of 16.  Or maybe all the 16/32/1024/8192 way servers are shipped in the lastK quarter.  The numbers would be consistent if the average system was a 4 way F server.  Tho I'd wonder why Intel doesn't package Itaniums as 4 to the' module if that's the min configuration.    Jack Peacock   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 21:02:04 -0700 / From: stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au (Stuart Norris) , Subject: Print file to two seperate printers= Message-ID: <51262235.0406032002.27b8ef9f@posting.google.com>   
 Dear Readers,   D I have program that produces a report in FORTRAN and prints the fileE from inside the application and then deletes the file.  I assume with & the open / close / dispose statements.  / The program prints to a queue called a$print.     ? But I would like to print two copies of the report on different . locations to queues - say b$print and c$print.  B How do I set up the a$print so that it feeds to two seperate queue< b$print and c$print without modifiy the FORTRAN application?  = Is there a way to do it using GENERIC and EXECUTION queues.     3 Both b$print and c$print are DCPS execution queues.    Thanks   Stuart   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:19:54 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> 0 Subject: Re: Print file to two seperate printers* Message-ID: <40BFF86A.7020700@bigpond.com>  # Stuart Norris mentioned in passing:  > Dear Readers,  > F > I have program that produces a report in FORTRAN and prints the fileG > from inside the application and then deletes the file.  I assume with ( > the open / close / dispose statements. > 1 > The program prints to a queue called a$print.    > A > But I would like to print two copies of the report on different 0 > locations to queues - say b$print and c$print. > D > How do I set up the a$print so that it feeds to two seperate queue> > b$print and c$print without modifiy the FORTRAN application? > ? > Is there a way to do it using GENERIC and EXECUTION queues.    > 5 > Both b$print and c$print are DCPS execution queues.  >  > Thanks >  > Stuart >    Stuart,   H I don't believe there is a way to do this using "normal" queue settings.G We have a similar requirement here and I have a program that does this. D The file is sent to queue_a, there is a detached job that checks nowC and again for jobs in specified queues.  If any jobs are found, the F contents of a logical (e.g. queue_a_list) are checked and the jobs are@ copied to the queues specified in the list then removed from the original queue.    Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 20:16:12 +0200, From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals * Message-ID: <2i98ceFkh8ifU1@uni-berlin.de>  8 "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> schreef in bericht news:40BF51E5.80300@MMaz.com... H > Does anyone know of, or have possession of, the console commands for aJ > VAX 6610 series of systems?  Preferably in PDF, would be awesome, and ifH > you have the hardware guides for the system in electronic form to toss* > in, that would be greatly appreciated... >  >  > Best regards,  >  >  > Barry  > K Barry, all I have is a paper version of the VAX 6000 series owner's manual. @ It covers the 500/400/300 models, with a little info on the 200. Does that help?    Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:27:21 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals B Message-ID: <40bf7b9a$0$13292$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote:  I > Does anyone know of, or have possession of, the console commands for a  K > VAX 6610 series of systems?  Preferably in PDF, would be awesome, and if  I > you have the hardware guides for the system in electronic form to toss  * > in, that would be greatly appreciated... >  >  > Best regards,  >  >  > Barry  >   	 Hi Barry,   I unless I'm completely mistaken, based on the information on the VAX 6610  ? (belonging to the VAX 6000 Series) which I have gleaned here...   ! VAX 6000 Model 600 specifications B http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/vax/archive/vax6000_600.html  $ Arne's - VMS hardware - medium VAXes4 http://www.vajhoej.dk/arne/vms/vms_hw_mediumvax.html  ' NetBSD's - DEC - VAX hardware reference [ http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/Hardware/Machines/DEC/vax/vax6000.html#vax6000:vax_6610    KA66A-AA VAX 6610 2 http://www.kunhardt-computer.de/kunden/kch/vax.htm    7 Then these should be the manuals you are looking for...   9 TXT PDF EK-660EA-HR-001 VAX 6000 Model 600 Mini Reference ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eahr1.pdf ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eahr1.txt   9 TXT PDF EK-660EA-MG-001 VAX 6000 Model 600 Service Manual ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eamg1.pdf ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eamg1.txt   H TXT PDF EK-660EA-TM-001 VAX 6000 Model 600 System Technical User's Guide? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eatm1.pdf ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eatm1.txt   A TXT PDF EK-660EA-UP-001 VAX 6000: Installing Model 600 Processors ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eaup1.pdf ? http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/660eaup1.txt     H Thanks should go to the above information providers (NetBSD, Arne etc.) G and especially to Robert Byer who maintains an extensive collection of   DEC hardware manuals at...= http://www.ourservers.net/public/dec_documentation/index.html   9 There is a mirror (or original?) HW docs collection at... ! http://cmcnabb.cc.vt.edu/dec94mds     - This link might also be interesting to you...  The Vax 6000 Series Website * http://www.stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au/vax/     Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg . IBM Business Services GmbH - Hannover, Germany   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:12:12 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals ' Message-ID: <40BF861C.4050001@MMaz.com>    Keith Cayemberg wrote:   > Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote: > H >> Does anyone know of, or have possession of, the console commands for G >> a VAX 6610 series of systems?  Preferably in PDF, would be awesome,  I >> and if you have the hardware guides for the system in electronic form  3 >> to toss in, that would be greatly appreciated...  > F > unless I'm completely mistaken, based on the information on the VAX F > 6610 (belonging to the VAX 6000 Series) which I have gleaned here... > 1 Wow, what a list, I'll look at it all, thank you!    Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 16:22:27 -0400, From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals , Message-ID: <40bf89fa$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   Barry,K were you not able to find the info on the vax web site (or find the vax web  site) or did you not look.  K I'm mostly curious because the owner's manual is write on the VAX6000 page.  We would like to make finding stuff easier...   -warren     6 "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message news:40BF51E5.80300@MMaz.com...2H > Does anyone know of, or have possession of, the console commands for aJ > VAX 6610 series of systems?  Preferably in PDF, would be awesome, and ifH > you have the hardware guides for the system in electronic form to toss* > in, that would be greatly appreciated... >s >r > Best regards,m >e >r > Barrye >r > -- i >r@ > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com@ > Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320@ > Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028 >  >  >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:56:33 -0700X+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manualsu' Message-ID: <40BF9081.9090508@MMaz.com>    warren sander wrote:   >Barry,tL >were you not able to find the info on the vax web site (or find the vax web >site) or did you not look.o >AL >I'm mostly curious because the owner's manual is write on the VAX6000 page. >We would like tod >make finding stuff easier...  >  >  C >o4 Went to openvms.compaq.com/doc/ which redirected to H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/ and did a search for *VAX 6000 HARDWARE* D which returned pages and pages of software related stuff, but not a : reference to the URL that had the answers to my question: I http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/vax/archive/vax6000_600.html which   though is titled for    .   VAXstation VAX 7000 Model 810 to 860 systems    G that I didn't know DEC, Compaq, nor HP built - wow, a VAXstation 7860, 0% now that would be been interesting...     B So in summary, the search engine isn't helpful in the slightest...     Barrye   >-warren >c >97 >"Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message   >news:40BF51E5.80300@MMaz.com... >  . >iH >>Does anyone know of, or have possession of, the console commands for aJ >>VAX 6610 series of systems?  Preferably in PDF, would be awesome, and ifH >>you have the hardware guides for the system in electronic form to toss* >>in, that would be greatly appreciated... >> >> >>Best regards,  >> >> >>Barry  >> >>-- f >>@ >>Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com@ >>Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320@ >>Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028 >> >> >> >>     >> >  >  >r >  . >    -- e  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                        H   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:46:56 +0200w0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>I Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manuals B Message-ID: <40bf8e40$0$13308$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   warren sander wrote:   > Barry,M > were you not able to find the info on the vax web site (or find the vax web  > site) or did you not look. > M > I'm mostly curious because the owner's manual is write on the VAX6000 page.- > We would like to > make finding stuff easier... > 	 > -warrenm > @ I guess the question is "What, if any, is the difference between  these two manuals", for example?   VAX 6000 Platform  Technical Users Guide5 Order Number: EK600EATM-001 on the HP Vax 6000 Pagee and               !tI Order Number: EK-660EA-TM-001 VAX 6000 Model 600 System Technical User's n Guidea  G It is not obvious to the unitiated that the first doc has the correct,  9 current and full information for the Model 600 errr 610?.a   Cheers!t   Keithy   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:28:11 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>lI Subject: Re: Searching for VAX 66XX Console Commands and hardware manualsd' Message-ID: <40BF97EB.1080808@MMaz.com>.   Sander, Warren wrote:a  G >Ok, I'll talk to the doc site owner and see if we should put a pointer  >to hw docs on the site. > I >Mostly we have kept hw stuff off the OpenVMS and Tru64 Unix sites and SW  >off the AlphasServer site.t >x >    > @ Yes, but where is the logic in searching for VAX hardware on an G AlphaServer site?  Perhaps rather than calling it an AlphaServer site, e> it should be more clearly delineated by OS (ie. VMS-hardware, H Tru64-hardware, Windoze-hardware, etc...) since not all OS's run on all 	 Alphas...   F I am grateful, however, that you do maintain this legacy information, 
 thank you.  
 Best regards,.   Barry    -- *  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                        j   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 14:27:55 -0600g/ From: bruns@spam.encompasserve.org (Alan Bruns)e# Subject: Sun v440s with an EVA3000?>3 Message-ID: <OO6rBdR05c1f@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  M Our up-to-now DEC/Compaq/HP-only datacenter is about to be the recipient of aiO couple Sun Fire V440s.  (Not my choice, not under my control, so no need to aske why...)i  O For the storage needs of these systems I'd like to connect them to our EVA3000, F and use Data Protector and our LTO tape library for backups.  I'm veryL interested in hearing any suggestions about this idea, especially from folks who have tried to do this.  N The folks who are specifying the Sun systems also have Sun storage shelves andO disks, and another backup product in mind.  If this is less trouble than tryinghK the hybrid Sun/HP thing, or if I don't hear from somebody who has succeededd9 with such a configuration I'm inclined to do it that way.r   Thanks in advance for any help.$   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:06:18 +0200a From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>' Subject: Re: Sun v440s with an EVA3000?.2 Message-ID: <c9o0bq$oad$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>  O You can find documentation about the supported hosts for the EVA3000 on the HP  Q storage web pages. I'm sure you will find that SUN Solaris is supported, but you rQ will have to compare all the details yourself (version Solaris? , SUN cluster? , aG Veritas ? etc.). You can also ask HP to confirm that your specific SUN a configuration is supported.   Q The LTO tape library should also be supported (I expect), but you can ask SUN to e
 confirm that.   7 I don't know Data Protector, so I can't help you there.e   Alan Bruns wrote: O > Our up-to-now DEC/Compaq/HP-only datacenter is about to be the recipient of aoQ > couple Sun Fire V440s.  (Not my choice, not under my control, so no need to askr	 > why...)h > Q > For the storage needs of these systems I'd like to connect them to our EVA3000,tH > and use Data Protector and our LTO tape library for backups.  I'm veryN > interested in hearing any suggestions about this idea, especially from folks > who have tried to do this. > P > The folks who are specifying the Sun systems also have Sun storage shelves andQ > disks, and another backup product in mind.  If this is less trouble than tryingpM > the hybrid Sun/HP thing, or if I don't hear from somebody who has succeededw; > with such a configuration I'm inclined to do it that way.s > ! > Thanks in advance for any help.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 20:24:58 GMTc/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>r' Subject: Re: Sun v440s with an EVA3000?/8 Message-ID: <uOLvc.119000$hY.58638@twister.nyroc.rr.com>  < "Alan Bruns" <bruns@spam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:OO6rBdR05c1f@eisner.encompasserve.org...pJ > Our up-to-now DEC/Compaq/HP-only datacenter is about to be the recipient of aJ > couple Sun Fire V440s.  (Not my choice, not under my control, so no need to ask	 > why...)s >eH > For the storage needs of these systems I'd like to connect them to our EVA3000,H > and use Data Protector and our LTO tape library for backups.  I'm veryH > interested in hearing any suggestions about this idea, especially from folksc > who have tried to do this.  K I'm not the SUN admin, but I do handle our EVA5000 configurations.  We have 5 three different Solaris systems connected to the EVA.e   > L > The folks who are specifying the Sun systems also have Sun storage shelves andtJ > disks, and another backup product in mind.  If this is less trouble than tryingC > the hybrid Sun/HP thing, or if I don't hear from somebody who hasn	 succeededr; > with such a configuration I'm inclined to do it that way.c >u! > Thanks in advance for any help.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jun 2004 14:29:16 -0700i" From: horn@shsu.edu (James T Horn)( Subject: Trying to do sftp via batch job= Message-ID: <843706dc.0406031329.597aa809@posting.google.com>>  $ When trying to run a batch job with:  D $sftp "-b" /rucs1/ucs/data/cbme01f_get1.txt username@sftp.domain.com   I get an error: " FATAL: OpenVMS$tty_gettty() failed6 %TCPIP-F-SSH_FATAL, non-specific fatal error condition  M This same command "$ sftp..." works fine when run from a terminal. Any ideas?    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:50:17 GMTm- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>r. Subject: Re: Vaxstation 3100 and graphics card@ Message-ID: <a6f19201ccc544d07ebfaab9b7071169@news.teranews.com>   Hey, some good news for me !  I The fine people at Systems Resale in Guelph Ontario sent me another WS01XyI board. This one had the brown PCB board instead of the Green one. All theDR markings seemed identical, except for one chip (the one with the round heat sink).  9 I put it into the 3100-30 and low and behold, it worked !t  B Man, what a difference it makes to have 1280*1024 versus 1024*864.  I Of course, this is still just 8 bit colour, but the windows look far more-C modern since no dithering is needed versus the black/white version.iI Strange to see a real LK201 and a hockey puck mouse sitting in front of a" modern LCD screen :-)s  I (Got a NEC multisync 1980sx. Almost all the multisyncs have Sinc on GreenIJ capabilities, as well as on screen menus to configure screen. It magically8 adapts to the video signal (screen size, frequency etc).    M Interestingly, the xsetroot -bitmap  option doesn't work with a b/w bitmap oni the colour screen. h    J So now I have to compile XV on my vax, a process that will probably take 2$ weeks of constant CPU usage :-) :-)   K (I am collecting all required fixes to please the compiler and will forward- them to Mr Dyson).   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.308 ************************