1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 11 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 323       Contents: Re: DecServer password reset5 executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet 9 Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet 9 Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet  Re: Is /verify necessary?  Re: Is /verify necessary?  Re: Is /verify necessary?  longest record length 1 byte  Re: longest record length 1 byte( Re: Newbie, Parameters to an application, Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press, Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press, Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press, Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press, Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press  Re: problem with sftp - get/mget* Re-using DECrepeater 90FS & 90TS equipment. Re: Re-using DECrepeater 90FS & 90TS equipment> Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] How to keep OPA0 operator enabled ?N Re: [TCPIP] How is the routing table updated when ROUTED or GATED aren't used?N Re: [TCPIP] How is the routing table updated when ROUTED or GATED aren't used?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 09:52:25 -07002 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)% Subject: Re: DecServer password reset < Message-ID: <bf98c417.0406110852.1259b6b@posting.google.com>  d "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<ojayc.11165$Fd.5218@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...G > Generally, pressing and holding the reset button for a 20 count while I > powering on has worked for me on countless decserver 700's in the past. M > This shoud wipe out everything and reset to factory defaults.  If the otehr I > properties are not being reset, then maybe the reset button/function is 	 > broken?  >  > Mike > ; > Glen Thompson <glen.thompson@cox.netnet> wrote in message * > news:jA9yc.13774$ye1.10519@lakeread05...L > > I have a DecServer 700-16 that was purchased used and kept in storage asH > > a backup.  I tried to put it into service but the previous owner hadL > > changed the default password.  Checking on-line I found the instructionsF > > to reset it by holding in the reset button while powering on.  OneH > > manual said to hold the reset until E was shown on the indicator.  IG > > think I've tried every possible combination I could think of.  Even ; > > tested the switch to verify that it was making contact.  > > F > > Anyone have any other ideas to try?  Unless I can get the password# > > cleared, the device is useless.  > >  > > thanks,  > > glen > >  > >   K What LED sequences do you get when you boot it up connected to the network? ) Does it get all the way to the "crazy 8"?   K You are doing that with the DECserver connected to the network, aren't you?   R Replace the ones in the following line with slashes to get the URL for the manual.  O http:11www.dnpg.com1dr1decserver1decserver-platforms1documentation1dsrvw-mg.pdf    HTH    WWWebb  + BTW- anybody got a copy of EK-DS10L-TS.PDF?    Thanks in advance    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 03:05:55 -0700# From: mao@gnu.org (Andrew Makhorin) > Subject: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet= Message-ID: <4209937f.0406110205.3a27f3f1@posting.google.com>   F Does anyone know if there is a server publically available through theF internet which is able to execute //jobs in os/390 or mvs environment?B I mean that I post a //job to that server and receive its listing.  
 Thank you,   Andrew Makhorin    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 05:22:50 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) B Subject: Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet3 Message-ID: <3aW6t0Ba1vd9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <4209937f.0406110205.3a27f3f1@posting.google.com>, mao@gnu.org (Andrew Makhorin) writes: H > Does anyone know if there is a server publically available through theH > internet which is able to execute //jobs in os/390 or mvs environment?D > I mean that I post a //job to that server and receive its listing.  J Probably the person who knows that would participate in online discussions of the MVS operating system.  E This newsgroup discusses the VMS operating system, which differs from  MVS in:   
 	Publisher 	Endian-ness 	Maximum virtual address   and countless other ways.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:20:50 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>B Subject: Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet* Message-ID: <2iu84uFr5ou3U1@uni-berlin.de>  2 "Andrew Makhorin" <mao@gnu.org> schreef in bericht7 news:4209937f.0406110205.3a27f3f1@posting.google.com... H > Does anyone know if there is a server publically available through theH > internet which is able to execute //jobs in os/390 or mvs environment?D > I mean that I post a //job to that server and receive its listing. >  > Thank you, >  > Andrew Makhorin   G Not that I know of, but why don't you install Hercules and run MVS 3.8?    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:30:28 GMT 3 From: hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) " Subject: Re: Is /verify necessary?2 Message-ID: <8mjyc.3503$4l3.3029@news.cpqcorp.net>  j In article <40c9b1c7$0$433$7f8943f3@newsreader.visi.com>, Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com> writes:J >I want to rebuild a disk that's gotten quite fragmented. So my intent is F >to backup/image from disk to scratch disk, and the backup/image from  >scratch back to original. > I >I vaguely remember reading that when doing an image backup from disk to  @ >disk the verify qualifier isn't really necessary. Is that true?  C (1) The likely hood that the disk dirve will write bad data without 2 detecting and reportign this is vanishingly low.    D (2) I think that a better check is to actually BOOT the backup copy.* This demonstrates that the backup is good.   --  J       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Ft Lauderdale  FL  USAF           (hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:27:52 +0100 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>" Subject: Re: Is /verify necessary?' Message-ID: <cacj5t$jft$1@lore.csc.com>    Lyndon Bartels wrote:  > J > I want to rebuild a disk that's gotten quite fragmented. So my intent isF > to backup/image from disk to scratch disk, and the backup/image from > scratch back to original.  > I > I vaguely remember reading that when doing an image backup from disk to A > disk the verify qualifier isn't really necessary. Is that true?   G When doing disk to disk, I generally do not use VERIFY. Most nearly all D the environments I've done this sort of defragmentation, the logicalH volume name is all that is needed so I only have a single pass, and then@ change the MOUNT command to go to the right place. If there is aE problem, I still have the original available but even when I have had F target disk media problems, BACKUP has always reported this, so I have? not lost anything. Think also, you'll have a recent BACKUP, and E typically I only ever do this sort of work immediately after a BACKUP  has completed.  G While you are doing this consider the INIT command, and using /HEADERS, H and other qualifiers. Then use BACKUP/IMAGE/NOINIT. Article available atH http://askq.compaq.com/ with a search string of "INIT command qualifiersD disk windows headers typical". One or two articles matched which may help.   G However, the disclaimer here is, the risk is your data, not mine, there   may be times I would use verify.   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 09:50:59 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org" Subject: Re: Is /verify necessary?3 Message-ID: <ycwdECP+Pt0O@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <8mjyc.3503$4l3.3029@news.cpqcorp.net>, hammond@not@peek.ssr.hp.com (Charlie Hammond) writes:l > In article <40c9b1c7$0$433$7f8943f3@newsreader.visi.com>, Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com> writes:K >>I want to rebuild a disk that's gotten quite fragmented. So my intent is  G >>to backup/image from disk to scratch disk, and the backup/image from   >>scratch back to original.  >>J >>I vaguely remember reading that when doing an image backup from disk to A >>disk the verify qualifier isn't really necessary. Is that true?  > E > (1) The likely hood that the disk dirve will write bad data without 4 > detecting and reportign this is vanishingly low.   > F > (2) I think that a better check is to actually BOOT the backup copy., > This demonstrates that the backup is good.  ? I always worry when I'm overwriting my production disk, whether  it's disk to disk or not.   H Like Charlie said.  Boot the backup copy.  If you know you can boot fromE the copy on the scratch disk then you know you have something to work 3 with if the copy back to the production disk fails.   > The ideal scenario is if you can change unit plugs, SCSI ID orA whatever, write protect the original, boot from the copy and make B sure your system is running properly.  Then unprotect the original  and use it as your scratch disk.  : Safer and you only have to copy your data once, not twice.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 01:50:35 -0700- From: bhushann@hotmail.com (Bhushan Narkhede) % Subject: longest record length 1 byte < Message-ID: <8a3b834.0406110050.6b73d94f@posting.google.com>   Hi,   (   I have a code that works fine on VMS. E But on one when it writes a file the file's record format has longest  lenth as 1 byte.  F What could be the reasons from the DISK's point of view i.e, directory( structure/ attributes etc for the above.   Rgds,  B    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 09:26:43 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org) Subject: Re: longest record length 1 byte 3 Message-ID: <EleJM7E5viJR@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <8a3b834.0406110050.6b73d94f@posting.google.com>, bhushann@hotmail.com (Bhushan Narkhede) writes: > Hi,  > * >   I have a code that works fine on VMS. G > But on one when it writes a file the file's record format has longest  > lenth as 1 byte. > H > What could be the reasons from the DISK's point of view i.e, directory* > structure/ attributes etc for the above.  ( $ DUMP /BLOCK=COUNT=1 your-file-name.dat   and    $ DIR /FULL your-file-name.dat  G My best guess is that your file is organized as variable length records E with one byte per record.  And I would further guess that the code in A question is C and for some reason, putc is writing one record per E character.  The open or fopen for the file in question might be worth  looking at.   C If this is the case then $ DUMP should indicate that there are four  bytes on disk for each record   % For example, a file containing "abc":   ; 0000FFFF 00630001 00620001 00610001 ..a...b...c..... 000000   J Read hex from right to left.  First two bytes are first record byte count.< Binary, little endian.  61 is "a".  00 is padding.  Next two? bytes are second record byte count.  62 is "b".  00 is padding. 5 Final FFFF indicates "no more records in this block".    Directory DISK1420:[VAXS09]   > XYZ.DAT;21                    File ID:  (773,86,0)            0 Size:            1/7          Owner:    [VAXS09]" Created:   11-JUN-2004 10:11:10.62& Revised:   11-JUN-2004 10:11:12.54 (1)" Expires:   11-JUN-2004 12:11:12.54 Backup:    <No backup recorded>  Effective: <None specified>  Recording: <None specified>  File organization:  Sequential Shelved state:      Online    Caching attribute:  WritethroughD File attributes:    Allocation: 7, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0$                     No version limitD Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 1 byte4 Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control RMS attributes:     None Journaling enabled: None= File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:  Access Cntrl List:  None Client attributes:  None   Total of 1 file, 1/7 blocks.  . I'd be curious about your "Record attributes".   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Jun 2004 23:28:26 -0700% From: ethiobite@yahoo.com (sebastien) 1 Subject: Re: Newbie, Parameters to an application = Message-ID: <bfd5f3ca.0406102228.42f56715@posting.google.com>   + Thanks for all these info, I'm on my way to ) VMS while many people seem to be leaving   it :-)   Thanks,   
 Sbastien.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:36:50 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>5 Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press 2 Message-ID: <cabju8$mva$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > Kenneth Farmer wrote:  > N >>OK folks...here's an opportunity OVMS in the press.  I've been approached byM >>a mainstream publisher/writer.  I could answer these questions but I'd like M >>to make this a community effort, strength in numbers and knowledge.  I need M >>OpenVMS customers to answer these questions.  From there I will compile the ( >>answers with the help of a few others. >> >>A few bullet points... >>E >>- Please send your responses to me via email,  kfarmer/openvms.org. J >>- Be careful about what you say as far as sensitive info, company names,@ >>etc.  But company names and their usage would be very helpful.J >>- I want to try and have something back to this guy by Monday/Tuesday of >>next week. >>? >>1. What stats do you have on OpenVMS usage in the enterprise?  >  > G > For reasons known only to hp/VMS, these stat's are kept very close to D > the vest. In addition, hp/VMS refuses to promote its product. Here@ > again, the reason defies all logic and divination. Perhaps VMS? > management has fallen victim to some form of group psychosis.  >  > 8 >>2. What applications does OpenVMS tend to be used for? >  > H > General computing of yesteryear, though much of this has fallen victimH > to the rumors of VMS's demise combined with Compaq's total destructionH > of its own and VMS's credibility, which hp has not even endeavoured to > recapture. > G > Large-scale database servers such as back-end servers for large-scale C > desktop applications in finance, healthcare and other industries.  > A > Some places still use VMS workstations for graphic rendition of C > extremely complex data, such as engineering and atmospheric data.   ; And many government applications that can not be mentioned.    >  > F >>3. Why has it hung on so well despite so many reports of its demise?  K Ask the US veteran administration why they returned to VMS after a unhappy   switch to another OS.    >  > F > It's secure - search the web for references. You'll find, not at theI > least, mention of DEFCON where VMS was found to be so unhackable it was  > not invited back.  > J > It's stable - uptime is measured with a calendar instead of a stopwatch. > G > It's scalable - the same o.s. binaries are installed on workstations, G > middle-tier servers and enterprise class systems. Only the tuning and  > "layered software" differs.  > C > VMS invented clustering almost twenty years ago. Newer clustering ; > efforts are mere shadows of what VMS clustering provides. B > "Long-distance" clustering or "wide-area" clustering can provideB > redunancy and 24/7/365 availability over hundreds of kilometres. >  > 8 >>4. Why is OpenVMS so well suited to disaster recovery? >  > C > A. Because of the ease of restoration. Any "image" backups can be I > restored on any other same-architecture system with suitably configured D > storage. No "building the system before you can build the system". > ' > B. Because of "wide-area" clustering.  > 7 > C. Because of host-based RAID-1 and other strategies.  >  > 1 >>5. Anything else you wish to add about OpenVMS?  >  > F > OpenVMS could be a very well positioned replacement for less secure,J > less stable, less scalable, less "available" products. All it would takeI > is an owner/vendor who will let it "be all that it can be", rather than H > "hiding it's light under a bushel" ("BRRRRR!! It's lost something kind > of crucial!" -Godspell). >  > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > H > Ken: I will e-mail this to you when it shows up in Google. There is no8 > info. here which relates directly to my full-time gig.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:21:57 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> 5 Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press ' Message-ID: <40C987C5.6F53E0DB@aaa.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > (email privately seperately) >  > Kenneth Farmer wrote: : > > 2. What applications does OpenVMS tend to be used for?M > accounting, web serving, SMTP server,  some office automation, development, * > network monitoring, FTP and many others.  < (Are smtp and ftp realy "applications" ? I'd call then "base
 services"...)    Anyway, don't forget :  H - The whole industial sector, such as all kinds of production monitoring systems.  E - Stock exchanges (with the Swedish company "OM Technology" as one of  the largest    software players.)    A - The gaming/lottery area. The Swedish state owned "Svenska Spel"  ("Swedish Games") B   runs most (all?) of theirs back-end systems suporting the online terminals on VMS.    - Telecom billing systems.  F - What about NASA ? I thought the system that continiously logs health dataF from the astronauts on the space shuttle was running on VMS and Rdb !?  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 10:52:51 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")5 Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press 6 Message-ID: <00A332F0.07EDB8F6@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  c In article <40C987C5.6F53E0DB@aaa.com>, Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> writes:  >  >  >JF Mezei wrote: >>   >> (email privately seperately)  >>   >> Kenneth Farmer wrote:; >> > 2. What applications does OpenVMS tend to be used for? N >> accounting, web serving, SMTP server,  some office automation, development,+ >> network monitoring, FTP and many others.  > = >(Are smtp and ftp realy "applications" ? I'd call then "base  >services"...) >  >Anyway, don't forget :  > I >- The whole industial sector, such as all kinds of production monitoring 	 >systems.    > F >- Stock exchanges (with the Swedish company "OM Technology" as one of >the largest >  software players.)  > B >- The gaming/lottery area. The Swedish state owned "Svenska Spel" >("Swedish Games")C >  runs most (all?) of theirs back-end systems suporting the online  >terminals on VMS. >  >- Telecom billing systems.  > G >- What about NASA ? I thought the system that continiously logs health  >data G >from the astronauts on the space shuttle was running on VMS and Rdb !?   M That gets you near "Health Care", which seems to be one of the major markets. ( (I gather Cerner is a big player there.)  0 Banking (don't get JF started on Swift, though).   -- Alan    --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk5 Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press ) Message-ID: <cac5ji$gjn$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>    In article <00A332F0.07EDB8F6@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") writes: d >In article <40C987C5.6F53E0DB@aaa.com>, Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> writes: >> >> >>JF Mezei wrote:  >>>   >>> (email privately seperately) >>>  >>> Kenneth Farmer wrote: < >>> > 2. What applications does OpenVMS tend to be used for?O >>> accounting, web serving, SMTP server,  some office automation, development, , >>> network monitoring, FTP and many others. >>> >>(Are smtp and ftp realy "applications" ? I'd call then "base >>services"...)  >> >>Anyway, don't forget : >>J >>- The whole industial sector, such as all kinds of production monitoring
 >>systems. >  >>G >>- Stock exchanges (with the Swedish company "OM Technology" as one of 
 >>the largest  >>  software players.)   >>C >>- The gaming/lottery area. The Swedish state owned "Svenska Spel"  >>("Swedish Games") D >>  runs most (all?) of theirs back-end systems suporting the online >>terminals on VMS.  >> >>- Telecom billing systems. >>H >>- What about NASA ? I thought the system that continiously logs health >>dataH >>from the astronauts on the space shuttle was running on VMS and Rdb !? > N >That gets you near "Health Care", which seems to be one of the major markets.) >(I gather Cerner is a big player there.)  > 1 >Banking (don't get JF started on Swift, though).  > 4 Not to forget Computer chip manuafacturing eg Intel.    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University     >-- Alan >  >-- P >===============================================================================1 > Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU N > Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056N > Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025P >=============================================================================== >    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 09:45:18 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)5 Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press = Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0406110845.6c50abde@posting.google.com>   e David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<40C9147C.7E2614A9@comcast.net>...  [...]  > C > VMS invented clustering almost twenty years ago. Newer clustering   C My VMS screensaver says VMSclusters (well, VAXclusters at the time) * were introduced in 1983 ==> ~21 years ago.   [...]    JMHO   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 00:52:51 -0700- From: matthias_mosimann@gmx.net (Matthias M.) ) Subject: Re: problem with sftp - get/mget = Message-ID: <4d5db2c5.0406102352.2bf9b458@posting.google.com>   r matthias_mosimann@gmx.net (Matthias M.) wrote in message news:<4d5db2c5.0405252345.109e3f40@posting.google.com>... > Hello everyone >  >  > A > I'm very new to OpenVMS and I've got a problem with sftp. I can D > connect without a mistake and all commands work very well only the8 > get/mget command doesn't work. (Perhaps my mistake?!). > 
 > An Example:  > 
 > -- snipp --  >  > sftp> get start.log 2 > ./start.log (dest): Not supported record format.
 > -- snipp --  > 9 > What means that: "Not supported record format" exactly?  > D > Perhaps I use the wrong parameters? Can someone give me tipp? That > would be very nice!  >  >  > Thank you for your postings. > 	 > regards  >  > Matthias, Switzerland      Hi everyone     E I've found a solution ... jep you have to convert the file like this:     & first create a file with this content:   RECORD FORMAT STREAM_LF  K then convert the file, which you want to transfer, with the following line:   / CONVERT/FDL=streamlf.fdl input-file output-file      happy sftping,scping :-)!    regards    Matthias, Switzerland    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Jun 2004 09:23:18 -0700 From: jong@theoffice.net (Jon)3 Subject: Re-using DECrepeater 90FS & 90TS equipment < Message-ID: <9f131b9a.0406110823.b9b344c@posting.google.com>  F Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but I'm after information on the DECrepeater 90FS and 90TS.  B I have been asked to setup a network for a company replacing theirF existing DEC system. I believe the DEC kit runs standard 10Mb ethernetF in which case, can I simply leave the above equipment in place? ie canE I run a standard Ethernet & TCP/iP network over the DEC hub and fibre 	 repeater?   D Are there any gotchas with these devices? I am proposing replacementF equipment in the event that we have a problem, howevever it would be a, shame to bin them if they can still be used.   Thanks   Jon    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:19:47 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>7 Subject: Re: Re-using DECrepeater 90FS & 90TS equipment * Message-ID: <2iu82vFrh7c6U1@uni-berlin.de>  - "Jon" <jong@theoffice.net> schreef in bericht 6 news:9f131b9a.0406110823.b9b344c@posting.google.com...H > Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but I'm after information on the > DECrepeater 90FS and 90TS. > D > I have been asked to setup a network for a company replacing theirH > existing DEC system. I believe the DEC kit runs standard 10Mb ethernetH > in which case, can I simply leave the above equipment in place? ie canG > I run a standard Ethernet & TCP/iP network over the DEC hub and fibre  > repeater?  > F > Are there any gotchas with these devices? I am proposing replacementH > equipment in the event that we have a problem, howevever it would be a. > shame to bin them if they can still be used. >  > Thanks >  > Jon   I The 90TS and 90FS are 10 MB/s devices. They run anything you can throw at  them. I Very reliable stuff, even though the DEChub 90 powersupply sometimes gets 
 rather noisy. K Both devices are repeaters, not a switch (bridge) so make sure you know the  appropriate ; configuration rules for setting up networks with repeaters. E Other than that there's one gotcha: the hardware tends to outlive the 
 manuals...   ------------------------------   Date: 11 JUN 2004 15:38:17 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)G Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] How to keep OPA0 operator enabled ? 6 Message-ID: <11JUN04.15381727@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  F I have a similar setup (motif instead of CDE though) and have used theD following DCL code late in the startup (after decw$startup) for many/ years (so I'm not sure what's necessary today):   
 $ Set Noon $ Node = F$GetSYI("NODENAME") D $ If F$GetJPI(F$GetDVI("OPA0:","PID"),"PRCNAM") .eqs. "DECW$CONSOLE"% $  Then Set Term/Perm/BRDCSTMBX OPA0:  $ EndIf  $ Define Sys$command OPA0: $ Reply/ena  $ Deas Sys$command  A This will require pressing CTRL-F2 after booting when the display 1 "drops" to reveal the ugly style operator window.    --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison 9 --                  karcher.nomorespxm@waisman.wisc.edu     \ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------N In a previous article, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote:  J ->As you might know, there seems to be still a bug in OPC$mumble handling.H ->Some days/weeks ago, I wrote of my OPERATOR.LOG on OpenVMS VAX V7.3... ->  D ->I have OPC$OPA0_ENABLE defined as TRUE in SYLOGICALS.COM and on myH ->Alpha this gets honored and OPA0 is an operator terminal. During boot. ->  I ->I'm using an operator window (you know, defining DECW$CONSOLE_SELECTION J ->as "WINDOW" in DECW$PRIVATE_APPS_SETUP.COM) and when it starts, which isF ->shortly after the STARTUP process frees OPA0, OPA0 has no longer theE ->operator enabled status. But a couple of seconds/minutes has again.  ->(Why the delay ?)  ->  L ->Then I log into CDE and OPA0 (= operator window) keeps enabled until I logJ ->out again. A newly created DECW$CONSOLE process is then owning OPA0: andL ->the operator status of OPA0 is disabled again. Then, nothing more happens. ->  J ->Many many minutes later, the status is still disabled (and probably someM ->OPCOM messages are already lost). Is this really intended ? Don't think so. F ->eg. Why have an operator window on a not logged-on graphic display ?F ->What sense makes an operator window not being an operator terminal ? ->  E ->Do you have a workaround which would make sense ? eg. I could ran a D ->batch job permanently (or every couple of minutes) and enable OPA08 ->as an operator terminal, but this seems an overkill...   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Jun 2004 23:31:14 -0700( From: pimpelmees@pandora.be (Pimpelmees)W Subject: Re: [TCPIP] How is the routing table updated when ROUTED or GATED aren't used? = Message-ID: <576e9651.0406102231.281c9b7f@posting.google.com>   > Check for sysconfig param ipsendredirects. If you put it on 0, redirects are disabled.    Wim    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:20:41 -0500 * From: "Jim" <jim.nospam.gould@charter.net>W Subject: Re: [TCPIP] How is the routing table updated when ROUTED or GATED aren't used? - Message-ID: <cacf3s$nu3$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>   J Thanks guys.  I had this problem yesterday morning, and wanted to know how= to prevent it from happening again.  Strange coincidence.....   J Anyway, we replaced our Gateway router and all three of my cluster membersF rest their default gateway to the local address of the server.  Had meH scratching my head for awhile.  The network tech didn't clear ARP on theI other routers and all kinds of strange things started happening.  I reset , the default gateway and everything was fine.  
 Thanks again. 1 "Jeff Campbell" <n8wxs@arrl.net> wrote in message 7 news:1a40a0b2.0406101029.7492c379@posting.google.com... 	 > Hi all,  > ) > OpenVMS 7.3 on a DS20, TCPIP 5.1 ECO 4.  >  > Local net: 192.168.12.0/24.  > Remote net: 192.168.10.0/24. > 1 > T1 link between nets, with routers on each end:  >  > Local router: 192.168.12.4 > Remote router: 192.168.10.1  > 7 > There is a WAN router on the local net: 192.168.12.1.  > 2 > The VMS system default (and permanent) route is: >  >   0.0.0.0  192.168.12.4  > = > No other routes are defined. ROUTED and GATED are not used.  > 9 > The local end T1 router has this default route defined:  > " >   0.0.0.0  0.0.0.0  192.168.12.1 > 
 > Problem: > L > Local access to machines and printers residing on the remote network failsK > after random intervals of time. Of 50 plus addresses, one, then two, then  3 I > or 4 will stop being accessible. Most of these addresses are PCs, which  get K > their IP addresses from a DHCP server on the remote network. But at least  1 I > failing address is an HP printer with a manually configured (static) IP = > address. These printers are accessed using TCPIP$TELNETSYM.  > I > A TCPIP SHOW ROUTE command will show that all the failing addresses now  haveK > DH routes through the WAN router, 192.168,12,1, instead of the previously B > correct route through the permanent default route, 192.168.12.4. > J > So, my question is: how does the TCPIP routing database get updated with= > incorrect routes when neither ROUTED nor GATED are running?  > E > And, 8-) what can I do to keep this dynamic update from happening??  >  > TIA, >  > Jeff Campbell  > n8wxs@arrl.net   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.323 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    py(ZCONST char *path)
{
    BOOL okay = FALSE;
    char devname[32], *debna;
    ushort i;
    BPTR lok = Lock((char *)path, ACCESS_READ), pok;
    struct FileSysStartupMsg *fart;
    struct DeviceNode *debb, devlist = (void *) BADDR((struct DosInfo *)
                                BADDR(DOSBase->dl_Root->rn_Info)->di_DevInfo);
    if (!lok)
        return FALSE;                   /* should not happen */
    if (pok = ParentDir((char *)path)) {
        UnLock(lok);
        UnLock(pok);
        return FALSE;                   /* it's not a root directory path */
    }
    Forbid();
    for (debb = devlist; debb; debb = BADDR(debb->dn_Next))
        if (debb->dn_Type == DLT_DEVICE && (debb->dn_Task == lick->fl_Task))
            if (fart = BADDR(debb->dn_Startup)) {
                debna = (char *) BADDR(fart->fssm_Device) + 1;
                if ((i = debna[-1]) > 31) i = 30;
                strncpy(devname, debna, i);
                devname[i] = 0;
                okay = !strcmp(devname, "trackdisk.device"