1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 13 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 327       Contents:( Accessing NFS from OS X. Was: NFS how to9 Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet  MySQL 4.0.20 for OpenVMS, RE: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press Python 2.3.4 for OpenVMS3 Re: Sun To Open Source Solaris ... sort of ...maybe 3 Re: Sun To Open Source Solaris ... sort of ...maybe  Re: SWS-2.0 (Apache) & CGI ???7 Re: Tru64 --> OpenVMS rather than another unix platform   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:33:07 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>1 Subject: Accessing NFS from OS X. Was: NFS how to * Message-ID: <2j2e9lFs8netU1@uni-berlin.de>  F For the record, in case anyone else wants to do this, here is where I E ended up in my quest to access my VMS system from my Mac running OSX  	 (10.3.4).     1 On the VMS side:, map and export the system disk:    TCPIP> show config map)              Filesystem Map Configuration ; Pathname                                Logical File System   6 /alpha                                  SYS$SYSDEVICE: TCPIP> show export  1 File System                             Host name   ) /alpha/000000                           *  TCPIP> show proxy   ; VMS User_name     Type      User_ID    Group_ID   Host_name   @ SYSTEM            OND             1           4   alpha1, alpha25 SYSTEM            OND           501          20   mac 3 TCPIP$NFS         OND             0           1   * 3 TCPIP$NOBODY      OND            -2          -2   *   @ The first SYSTEM entry enables STARTUP to mount the DNFS device.E The second SYSTEM entry is the User_ID/Group_ID of my Mac account as   shown in Netinfo -> users.  F IMPORTANT: TCP/IP proxy modifications only take effect after all DNFS $ disks are dismounted then remounted.  ; In a file called by SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM I have the following:   . $!      Serve the system disk as an NFS device $!H $ TCPIP mount dnfs1: "/alpha/" /host='node' /system/path="/alpha/000000"  G On the Mac side, to do an automount at startup, I followed the Netinfo   instructions at   3 http://astcomm.net/mac/tech/nfs_howto/client/#final    Some notes on that:   B 1. I added a value of -P (use a privileged port) in the opts value@     field. Without that I could only get things working with the      /private/mumble mount point.  < 2. The note on /private/mnt is a bit misleading. It could be>     /private/anything as well, and it's possible to create theB     dir entry as /Users/sture/alpha, /Volumes/alpha and just plain
     /alpha  D 3. The example given for nidump doesn't work. In fact there's no wayG     I can get nidump to report anything. Any syntax I throw at it comes ?     back with help text as if I'd entered no parameters at all.   E Lastly, there's still no way I can access the VMS system via Finder;  H only via the CLI. Finder simply tells me I don't have the privilege, no " matter where I put my mount point.  H Initially I suspected that Finder was using a different UID/GID pair to I access the VMS system, but TCPTRACE tells me it's using the same one the  	 CLI uses.   B To end on a light note, navigating around an NFS mounted VMS disk 7 (ODS/2) using OS X is something of a new experience :-)    To move down a directory:         cd syslost.dir    list all subdirectories:  8      ls *.dir	# lists the contents of all subdirectories  - filenames containing a dollar fool the shell:    cd vms$common.dir   tcsh: common: Undefined variable  & so you need to escape the dollar sign:   cd vms\$common  H Files with only one version show up without the version number. If more F than one version exists then the version number is included too - e.g.   x.com  x.x.2  x.x.3    Feedback welcome.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:36:08 +0200 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>B Subject: Re: executing //jobs in os/390 or vms posted via internet* Message-ID: <2j2i55Frr370U1@uni-berlin.de>  2 "Andrew Makhorin" <mao@gnu.org> schreef in bericht7 news:4209937f.0406120947.1677738c@posting.google.com... 9 > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> wrote in message & news:<2j00ptFsamqrU1@uni-berlin.de>...6 > > "Andrew Makhorin" <mao@gnu.org> schreef in bericht: > > news:4209937f.0406112142.ff838b2@posting.google.com...= > > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> wrote in message + > >  news:<2iu84uFr5ou3U1@uni-berlin.de>... : > > > > "Andrew Makhorin" <mao@gnu.org> schreef in bericht? > > > > news:4209937f.0406110205.3a27f3f1@posting.google.com... L > > > > > Does anyone know if there is a server publically available through the C > > > > > internet which is able to execute //jobs in os/390 or mvs  environment?L > > > > > I mean that I post a //job to that server and receive its listing.	 > > > > >  > > > > > Thank you,	 > > > > >  > > > > > Andrew Makhorin  > > > > J > > > > Not that I know of, but why don't you install Hercules and run MVS 3.8? > > > G > > > I've got Hercules installed as well as os/360, but I need os/390.  > > > G > > > (I bring my apologies that I intervented into the wrong forum; in  fact, * > > > vms and mvs are different things :+) > > >  > > > Thank you, > > >  > > > Andrew Makhorin  > > H > > Wouldn't it be possible to install os/390 on Hercules? Provided that you've > > got - > > the correct installation media of course.  > >  > > Hans > H > That's a great idea :+) However, I havn't got os/390 distribution, andK > even if I'd have got it, I couldn't install it due to licensing problems. H > Afaik IBM doesn't object against free using of os/360 distribution (at< > least as herculesians say), but not of os/390 neither mvs. >  > Andrew Makhorin   H I suppose it depends on how long you want to use the setup, and for what purpose.I Hercules comes with MVS 3.8 (3.8J ??) and that runs fine, as far as I can  tell, being  a stranger to that OS.F But if you haven't got a distribution for os/390 or need a more recent version of MVS then it's a moot point.    Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:25:33 +0200  From: jf.pieronne@laposte.net ! Subject: MySQL 4.0.20 for OpenVMS 2 Message-ID: <cagvhl$qr4$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>  2   MySQL 4.0.20 is the latest MySQL stable version.  Q The kit also include the client shareable library (compatible with previous one).   J Download from http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/kits/ or any mirrors.  R Kit need the following ACRTL patches as minimum patch levels for each VMS version:   OpenVMS 7.3   ACRTL-V0600  OpenVMS 7.3-1 ACRTL-V0300 
 OpenVMS 7.3-2   
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:27:06 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> 5 Subject: RE: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB35673F@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----* > From: Dr. Dweeb [mailto:dr@dweeb.com]=20 > Sent: June 11, 2004 1:30 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 7 > Subject: Re: Opportunity for OVMS in mainstream press  >=20 > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote:  > > JF Mezei wrote:  > >>! > >> (email privately seperately)  > >> > >> Kenneth Farmer wrote:< > >>> 2. What applications does OpenVMS tend to be used for?C > >> accounting, web serving, SMTP server,  some office automation, : > >> development, network monitoring, FTP and many others. > > @ > > (Are smtp and ftp realy "applications" ? I'd call then "base > > services"...)  > >  > > Anyway, don't forget : > > A > > - The whole industial sector, such as all kinds of production  > > monitoring systems.  > > B > > - Stock exchanges (with the Swedish company "OM Technology"=20 > as one of  > > the largest  > >   software players.) > > E > > - The gaming/lottery area. The Swedish state owned "Svenska Spel"  > > ("Swedish Games") F > >   runs most (all?) of theirs back-end systems suporting the online > > terminals on VMS.  > >  >=20@ > None of what follows is terribly secret, so I will name names. >=20G > ESSNet is also swedish and has 7-8% of the world Lotto market - again A > OpenVMS/OracleRdb backend.  I thought it had Sweden as well,=20  > but apparently  > now - shows how little I know. >=20@ > SciGames in Austria is also a player in that market - AFAIK=20 > they are also  > OpenVMS/OracleRdb. >=20 > > - Telecom billing systems.  	 [snip ..]  >=20 >=20A > Where=B4s Kerry when we need him, he has probably got a hundred & > names/industries to add to the list. >=20 >=20 > Dr. Dweeb  >=20
 > > Jan-Erik.  >=20    I Well, I certainly have not gone away, just doing the occasional lurking = 1 as day job has been extremely busy these days ...    :-)   E Re: recent references on OpenVMS - lets see what we can come up with:   J - I assume all have seen the OpenVMS / International Securities Exchange =G (ISE) Customer AD in WSJ this week? Very, very well done. Yes, I know = J the follow-on link that states it is OpenVMS / Alpha is not yet updated, =! but apparently is in progress.=20   I However, if you go to www.hp.com/adapt click on "Essential Technologies = 7 and Links", you will see OpenVMS listed above UNIX. :-)   G Apparently, this same ad will appear in the following magazines: (and =  this is not April fools)   18th June Business Week  26th June Economist  28th June CIO Magazine  3 - International Securities Exchange (ISE) brochure: 7 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/ise/ise.pdf E "In creating its technology infrastructure, the ISE management team = J started by selecting OM Technology in Sweden for its trading system, and =F OM recommended OpenVMS because of its reputation for reliability and =@ high availability. Sixteen of the world's exchanges run the OM =A Technology trading system - and 15 of them run it on HP OpenVMS =  AlphaServer systems."   : - VA Hospitals and USD $784M OpenVMS win: (March 24, 2004)9 http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2004/040324a.html   A - Singapore Exchange - *New* OpenVMS Customer (and very mission = A critical) will be using OM Technology solution on OpenVMS/Rdb.=20  Reference: December 2003J http://www.omhex.com/press/showreleases.asp?navnode=3D3&id=3D200312120019= 0   H - Acucorp - New ISV for OpenVMS: (their web site was down this am, but =
 try later)@ http://www.acucorp.com/company/press/releases/2004/2004_pr_4.php  H - Acuweather.com just did great video testimonial (should be available = externally soon) Http://www.acuweather.com   @ - Australian Stock Exchange and Korean Futures Exchange and OM = Technology (OpenVMS): 0 http://www.finextra.com/fullstory.asp?id=3D11683  . - OpenVMS Testimonials and brochures web site:G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/ (Transportation, Health, = C Financial Services, Manufacturing references here - all in new HP =  format)   H - Southeastern Freight - Great example of web enabling and integration =J of existing applications with J2EE/.Net at a small fraction of the costs =' to re-write / re-host: (WRQ is partner) 3 http://www.wrq.com/aboutwrq/news/2004/051004pr.html   3 - Intersystems and Schlumberger and Cache (OpenVMS) 0 http://www.intersystems.com/press/2003/sema.html  9 - USIMINAS (Brazilian Steel) - Process Control on OpenVMS , http://h71000.www7.hp.com/news/usiminas.html  > - Toronto Stock Exchange (TSE) and OpenVMS - POSIT applicationJ http://www.tsx.com/en/productsAndServices/tradingProducts/tse/posit/index= html  J http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3Den&lr=3D&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3Dutf-8&frame=J =3Dright&th=3Dd40a9f37d7a2f9c3&seekm=3DBCcyvhSudMC%2B%40eisner.encompasse=H rve.org#link1 (google search on Marty - he installed this POSIT system = at TSE)    - Cerner Medical and OpenVMS: G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/cerner/cerner.pdf (Cerner =  and OpenVMS)@ http://www.cerner.com/aboutcerner/aboutcerner_4a.asp?id=3D2161 = Cerner/OpenVMS Customer G http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/aurora/aurora.pdf More on =  Aurora  ( - IDX Medical and OpenVMS (New brochure)7 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/brochures/idx/idx.pdf ' http://h71000.www7.hp.com/news/idx.html   ? New HP Itanium servers (Integrity) brochure (includes OpenVMS =  references) J http://www.hp.com/products1/servers/integrity/integrity_server_family.pdf=    A DABS.com - Large OpenVMS based retailer web site: (November 2003) F http://www.dabs.com/uk/news/press+releases/press_releases_synergex.htm    - ISV's and OpenVMS and Itanium:J http://www.hp.com/products1/evolution/alpha_retaintrust/openvms/partners.= html< http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/matrix/i64partner_A.html  D - HP Canada and Ciphersoft sign agreement for Rally to Java tools: = (April 2004)5 http://www.ciphersoftinc.com/docs/news/April13_04.htm , http://h71000.www7.hp.com/news/hpcanada.html  8 - CODA Financial Application and OpenVMS (December 2002)7 http://www.coda.com/system/Article.asp?MNO=3D5&AID=3D10     ? Well, just off the top of my head, that's all I can think of ..    :-)   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:28:25 +0200  From: jf.pieronne@laposte.net ! Subject: Python 2.3.4 for OpenVMS 2 Message-ID: <cagvn2$raf$1@news-reader1.wanadoo.fr>  1 Python 2.3.4 is the latest Python stable version.    This kits contains also M - an update of the libxml2 library from 2.6.4 to 2.6.10 (http://xmlsoft.org/)  - new module gd   Q Download from http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/kits/ or any of the mirrors.   5 Various documentation at http://vmspython.dyndns.org/   , Official Python site: http://www.python.org/  % Two very good introduction to Python  G http://www.ferg.org/python_presentations/python_intro_for_managers.ppt  , http://www.ferg.org/python_slides/index.html    
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:32:40 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> < Subject: Re: Sun To Open Source Solaris ... sort of ...maybe0 Message-ID: <cahl1p$qme$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bill Todd wrote:M > "Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy" <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> = > wrote in message news:ca7h18$13m$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com...  >  >>Bill Todd wrote: >>I >>>"Andrew Harrison" <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message - >>>news:ca1f2f$gth$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com...  >>>  >>>  >>>>Bill Todd wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>3 >>>>>"John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message + >>>>>news:pemdnQneyfJ_bV3dRVn-jg@igs.net...  >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>  >>> N > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1209&e=5&u=/nf/24366&sid=95 >  >>>>>>573734 >>>>>  >>>>> L >>>>>That's nice, I guess.  But I'm more interested in the new 'dynamic fileK >>>>>system' that they just announced, which at least claims to support the  >>>  >>>kinds >>>  >>> A >>>>>of features I've been suggesting for years:  anyone seen any  > 
 > substantive  > ; >>>>>information on it yet (I didn't find any more than the A >>>>>press-release/high-level-manager comments stuff at sun.com)?  >>>>>  >>>>C >>>>Access to Solaris Dynamic Filesystem AKA ZFS can be had through A >>>>the Software Express Program which gives people with existing ? >>>>Solaris licenses access to the latest builds of Solaris 10.  >>>  >>> I >>>What I'm looking for is access to *information* about the Dynamic File I >>>System.  I did hear mentioned somewhere that it was a rebadged/updated H >>>version of a previous Sun file system, but don't know if that's true. >>>  >>E >>I will see if I can get you some technical documentation that isn't  >>covered by an NDA. >  > M > That would be great:  the little that's been said suggests some significant , > features that I'd like to know more about. >  > - bill >  >   @ A lot of the detail is still under wraps but this is a publishedE paper on a couple of the new facilites in ZFS aka Dynamic Filesystem.   A http://tesla.hpl.hp.com/self-manage03/Finals/henson-self-tune.pdf   4 The three authors are from the ZFS engineering team.  C In addition as you may have gleaned it is also a 128 bit filesystem ( which eliminates silent data corruption.   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:41:42 -0400 * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>< Subject: Re: Sun To Open Source Solaris ... sort of ...maybe2 Message-ID: <Yr2dnSHIgZ7r-lHdRVn-gQ@metrocast.net>  F "Andrew Harrison" <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> wrote in message* news:cahl1p$qme$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com...   ...   B > A lot of the detail is still under wraps but this is a publishedG > paper on a couple of the new facilites in ZFS aka Dynamic Filesystem.  > C > http://tesla.hpl.hp.com/self-manage03/Finals/henson-self-tune.pdf   I Color my face red:  I downloaded that paper last November, but had yet to  get around to reading it.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 08:49:25 -0400 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> ' Subject: Re: SWS-2.0 (Apache) & CGI ??? 7 Message-ID: <h3Yyc.533$7H1.31361@news20.bellglobal.com>   = "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow> wrote in message 9 news:DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-5feQdepJZEI3@dave2_os2.home.ours... G > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:08:09 UTC, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>  > wrote: >  [...snip...] >  > NeilG >           you're not being bitten by CSWS 2.0's distaste for 'normal' ? > VMS text files are you?. CSWS only does Unix-Style Stream-LF.  >  > --   > Cheers - Dave.  G Needing to convert all my existing web pages to Stream_LF was kind of a L shock. I didn't think a change would be necessary for dynamic content comingC from a CGI but I tried a small demo anyway just to prove the point.   I What's really weird with Apache 2.0.x is this new concept of input/output J filters. With Apache 1.3 all I/O moves directly between the server and theB browser. With Apache 2.0.x the same I/O is intercepted by a filterE (presumably to determine the content length). The following links may ( provide a little insight on the problem:   a little theory:; http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2001/08/23/apache_2.html   G description of fix (if this problem is a bug and not a feature change): > http://hypermail.linklord.com/new-httpd.old/2002/Aug/0374.html  L Anyway, use the new directive "RemoveOutputFilter" but this did not solve myJ problem. Maybe I'm not using the directive properly because it still looksJ like I'm seeing a data size problem. Small data returns are OK while large$ returns seem to fail intermittently.  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Jun 2004 07:53:34 -0700( From: finnjj@telefonica.net (Jerry Finn)@ Subject: Re: Tru64 --> OpenVMS rather than another unix platform= Message-ID: <31a78418.0406130653.72af04ef@posting.google.com>   W "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message news:<pI6dnbGRj8DH31fdRVn_iw@igs.net>... H > I was flipping though the HP User Advocacy newsletter of April 2004  (A > http://www.hpuseradvocacy.org/news/ ) and came across this gem:  ....M > discussed the transition path from Tru64 UNIX operating systems to Linux or 	 > HP-UX.   ....J > Since people are being forced to migrate from Tru64, why doesn't HP evenK > suggest OpenVMS as an alternative? It's still unix-y enough to be branded  > unix,   < I've worked in a number of migration projects with all sorts< of OS's. A Unix to Unix is just much easier. The tough thing< is the API/System Services differences and rewriting all of  that. Really no contest.  > However, I did keep track of the MPE migration conferences and< VMS was never mentioned there either. MPE was HP's long time< proprietary integrated system. Those that prefer integrated : systems went to IBM iSeries. MPE users were interested in 5 systems that just worked and not the "best of breed"  ; integration nightmares you get with UNIX. HP has abondoned  ) that point of view and all that hold it.     Jerry Finn.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.327 ************************