1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 25 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 350       Contents:$ Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!)( Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) Re: Adding a unit on a HSZ40 Re: Adding a unit on a HSZ40) Does anyone have a working IDLE-MON.MAR ?  Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS Re: Equipment release policy?  Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER  Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER  Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER  Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER D HP is top IT service provider in Technology Business Research surveyH Re: HP is top IT service provider in Technology Business Research survey0 Re: HXDRIVER VAX installation issues in OVMS 7.3@ Re: Is OpenVMS 'Adaptive' according to HP, or just an Albatross?@ Re: Is OpenVMS 'Adaptive' according to HP, or just an Albatross?+ Re: More LAT questions on LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM + Re: More LAT questions on LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM  Re: Mozilla 1.7  Re: NTP and NTPDATE O OpenVMS 7.2-1/Pathworks 6.0C NT4 Domain upgrade to Windows 2k3 Active Directory  Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUD Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUD Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUD Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUD Re: Problem installing MySQL: Re: RSA Secure ID  or other hardware token authentication?: Re: RSA Secure ID  or other hardware token authentication?$ Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file???( Re: TCPIP V5.3 - ECO 2 FTP server quirk?( Re: TCPIP V5.3 - ECO 2 FTP server quirk? VAX  Spare Parts Re: VAX  Spare Parts Re: VAX  Spare Parts Re: VAX  Spare Parts& Re: VMS Gets Short Shrift at HP World.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:15:08 +0100 < From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNOSPAMTHANKSDaniels@themail.co.uk>- Subject: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) 5 Message-ID: <40db6e84$0$4581$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   K You may remember Adaptive Enterprise thread a while back (link below). With  one of my points being...   A >Have a look at the flash site for the campaign it is referencing F >www.hp.com/adapt , seems to me there is explicit mentions, for EVA's,E >non-stop, linux, proliant, openview and integrity(without mentioning G >VMS). This is all mentioned within the ad campaigns flash, VMS is not.   J I mentioned this to my OpenVMS Ambassador a couple of weeks ago, not quiteK believe anything would be done, but sure enough the flash has been updated!   I VMS is now being mentioned as one of the 'Essential Technologies' and for  once is even listed above UNIX.    Alex   Previous thread at.....   k http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9f7f13a8.0402151902.7ef0935a%40posting.google.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:45:36 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) @ Message-ID: <d7c4fd42181dfc1fdff81416e76bfcdf@news.teranews.com>   Alex Daniels wrote: L > I mentioned this to my OpenVMS Ambassador a couple of weeks ago, not quiteM > believe anything would be done, but sure enough the flash has been updated!   L But isn't that tantamount to updating a videotape after the commercials haveM aired so that only those looking up the archives will see the updated video ?   L VMS needs to be mentioned in the "world premire"  airings of the materials,M VMS needs to be mentioned in those large videotaped presentations in front of L large audiences by Carly and company. Adding VMS as an aftertought after the@ main event still means that at the main event, VMS was excluded.  G Customers continue to try to gauge exactly how HP handles VMS, and that L judgement is made by how HP handles VMS in the very public presentations andI advertising, not some obscure presentation seen only by VMS-savvy people.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:02:37 GMT , From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net>1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) - Message-ID: <1JLCc.92798$Hg2.51621@attbi_s04>   J I say this is progress.  I see other signs of progress.  This is positive.  F Some here always have their glass half-empty.  Try half-full sometime.    : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message: news:d7c4fd42181dfc1fdff81416e76bfcdf@news.teranews.com... > Alex Daniels wrote: H > > I mentioned this to my OpenVMS Ambassador a couple of weeks ago, not quite F > > believe anything would be done, but sure enough the flash has been updated! > I > But isn't that tantamount to updating a videotape after the commercials  haveG > aired so that only those looking up the archives will see the updated  video ?  > C > VMS needs to be mentioned in the "world premire"  airings of the 
 materials,L > VMS needs to be mentioned in those large videotaped presentations in front ofJ > large audiences by Carly and company. Adding VMS as an aftertought after the B > main event still means that at the main event, VMS was excluded. > I > Customers continue to try to gauge exactly how HP handles VMS, and that J > judgement is made by how HP handles VMS in the very public presentations and K > advertising, not some obscure presentation seen only by VMS-savvy people.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:15:49 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) + Message-ID: <40DB8AD5.E5173189@comcast.net>    Alex Daniels wrote:  > M > You may remember Adaptive Enterprise thread a while back (link below). With  > one of my points being...  > C > >Have a look at the flash site for the campaign it is referencing H > >www.hp.com/adapt , seems to me there is explicit mentions, for EVA's,G > >non-stop, linux, proliant, openview and integrity(without mentioning I > >VMS). This is all mentioned within the ad campaigns flash, VMS is not.  > L > I mentioned this to my OpenVMS Ambassador a couple of weeks ago, not quiteM > believe anything would be done, but sure enough the flash has been updated!  > K > VMS is now being mentioned as one of the 'Essential Technologies' and for ! > once is even listed above UNIX.  >  > Alex >  > Previous thread at.....  > m > http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9f7f13a8.0402151902.7ef0935a%40posting.google.com    FFO!!!   (Far Friggin' Out!!!)    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:23:33 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) + Message-ID: <40DB8CA4.581BC354@comcast.net>    Dave Gudewicz wrote: > L > I say this is progress.  I see other signs of progress.  This is positive. > H > Some here always have their glass half-empty.  Try half-full sometime.  H Y'know, Dave, (I know - you weren't targetting individuals) I try *REAL*8 hard to be positive. Drives my wife and co-workers nuts!  H Truth be told though, I'm trying desparately to keep my glass half full.C Trouble is, while I'm pouring stuff into my glass by the tank-truck 6 full, hp is busy knocking the bottom out of the glass!  E Yes - any small step on the road to "recovery" is a gigantic triumph. / How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!   C Then again, if you're trying to sop up the ocean with a paper towel D (even "the quicker picker-upper"), you've got rather a task ahead of you!  H To quote from Anthony Robbins, I frequently feel like I'm "running east,: looking for a sunset". (Fundamental problem there, y'see.)   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:49:50 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) @ Message-ID: <79f8702d29d695f65b35cbb80cf76fb4@news.teranews.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: G > Yes - any small step on the road to "recovery" is a gigantic triumph. 1 > How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!   N Actually, since HP has not taken any truyly active steps to end the DECline ofS VMS, it isn't a question yet of recovery, it is a question of stopping the DECline.   F By now, with HP having had plenty of time to take ownership of all theN products it has acquired from Digital and Tandem, HP has prefered to use "planM of record" instead of "we'll fix the lack of marketing and give VMS a heck of  a big boost it deserves".   L The late addition of VMS in some archived presentation is simply a sign thatK after the fact, pointing out the "error" can result in some busy bee at the F low end in adding VMS. The fact remains that when the presentation wasN made/produced, VMS was excluded (and in many cases of those presentations, VMSI was specifically excluded since they went out of their way to mention all  other platforms).   M It takes more than a single presentation being fixed after the fact to change K my impression of HP. It takes a serious and sustained commitment over time.   J It wasn't so long ago that Marcello had succeeded in turning the table andI instead of VMS getting axed, it got its "renaissance". All was great, and D things were looking up. Then, when Compaq realised the success, thatI renaisaance was unceremoniously axed and things went back to the prevoius N "ignore VMS in all presentations and no more marketing allowed" (of course, inJ hindsight, with the upcoming demise of Alpha, it was no surprise that theyM would want to stop growing a platform that had show such great potential with  such limited marketing).  G When someone is set on a decision, he/she will take whatever actions to N justify and sustain that decision. When politicians were set on destroying theK montreal velodrome, they started to lower the number of hours cyclists were D allowed to use it. And when the decision was made to destroy it, theJ immediatly closed the velodrome, not even allowing cyclist to take a finalL farewell lap: they wanted the media to see an empty unused velodrome insteadH of having media see it filled with cyclists who would decry the lies and$ underhanded tactics of poiliticians.  K I see VMS in very much the same way. All the actions that Compaq and now HP L have been doing have been in line with keeping the door open to killing VMS.H During this time, they just need to do the bare minimum to prevent theirK strategy from being too obvious.  This is a long term project, but one day, K just like they did with Alpha, they'll produce some statistics showing that G VMS can't keep up and that it is pointless and expensive to comtinue to  develop it.   L I see those small steps as eye candy to help shut people like me up since HPM can point to individual small actions that disprove the naysayers's opinions. K But in the big picture, HP has yet to convince anyone that it is taking VMS D really seriously and wants to maximise its potential and use it as aJ competitive advantage against IBM and SUN and DELL. HP can offer VMS, DELLH can't. VMS can compete against AS400, AIX and MVS, and it can certaintly% compete against Windowss and Solaris.   J And guess what, VMS can also compete against NSK and HP-UX, and it doesn'tL matter if VMS steals an HP-UX customer since that customer remains under the: HP umbrella. (something HP probably doesn't want to admit)   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 05:26:10 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)1 Subject: Re: Adaptive Enterprise (Flash Updated!) 1 Message-ID: <newscache$a6nuzh$mrd1$1@news.sil.at>   \ In article <1JLCc.92798$Hg2.51621@attbi_s04>, "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> writes:K >I say this is progress.  I see other signs of progress.  This is positive.    Indeed.   G >Some here always have their glass half-empty.  Try half-full sometime.   J If he hadn't complained, the glass would be really empty. Think of that...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:09:34 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: Adding a unit on a HSZ40 + Message-ID: <40DB895E.EAC1BE12@comcast.net>    Piet Timmers wrote:  > 2 > Adding a unit on a HSZ40, I know very, very old. >  > But how do I add a unit: > I > add unit 10 disk100  gives the message that the number part off the LUN ' > must 0-7, but 0-7 are already in use.  >  > Please help.  H Well, HSZ40 takes me back a ways, but I think it may be complaining moreE about the syntax than anything else. I believe the command should be:    HSZ> add unit d10 disk100   H ..although "10" may not be a valid unit number. It may need to be 100 or9 101 or 102 or ... at least, that's how it is on my HSZ80.    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:30:16 -0500 ) From: Bill Hall <wehall@covad.nospam.net> % Subject: Re: Adding a unit on a HSZ40 D Message-ID: <2f4c1$40db9c4c$4069ed85$2047@msgid.meganewsservers.com>   David J Dachtera wrote:    > Piet Timmers wrote:  > 2 >>Adding a unit on a HSZ40, I know very, very old. >> >>But how do I add a unit: >>I >>add unit 10 disk100  gives the message that the number part off the LUN ' >>must 0-7, but 0-7 are already in use.  >> >>Please help. >  > J > Well, HSZ40 takes me back a ways, but I think it may be complaining moreG > about the syntax than anything else. I believe the command should be:  >  > HSZ> add unit d10 disk100  > J > ..although "10" may not be a valid unit number. It may need to be 100 or; > 101 or 102 or ... at least, that's how it is on my HSZ80.  >  > D.J.D.  : Valid units are 0-7, 100-107, 200-207, 300-307, 400-407...   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:14:30 +0000 (UTC) * From: bleau@UMTOF.UMD.EDU (Lawrence Bleau)2 Subject: Does anyone have a working IDLE-MON.MAR ?0 Message-ID: <cbfg7m$g9h$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>  K I'm following up an earlier post in which I asked for assistance in getting J the DECUS FINGER program to report idle times.  After some more digging, IH discovered the file IDLE-MON_VAX.MAR with my (old) FINGER distribution. H The filename indicates it was designed for the VAX.  Does anyone know ifJ this will work on the Alpha, and for the current release of VMS and TCPIP?  I If you want me to post the source code, I will.  Better yet, I've made it  available at  - http://umtof.umd.edu/~bleau/idle-mon_vax.html   H If you don't know what IDLE-MON_VAX is, it's a Macro program that puts aG few lines of code into nonpaged pool and changes the TTDRIVER to invoke F those lines as part of a character read or write operation.  The extraJ lines access the current system absolute time and save it in the UCB entryK UCB$L_DUETIM.  This value is thus the time that the last character was read E from or written to the terminal.  FINGER/IDLE accesses this entry and J subtracts out the system time to get the time since the last terminal i/o, hence the idle period.  D Also, since this was designed well before the current TCPIP's TelnetK driver, does anyone know if it will work for TNA devices?  Should it be run ! before or after TCPIP is started?    Thanks, all.   Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edu    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:37:19 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> # Subject: Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS @ Message-ID: <6edb60fbd52b86fddc6d8c91011bbef5@news.teranews.com>   Claude Marinier wrote:F > I suspect that the boot process hands VMS the means of accessing the+ > SCSI disk but VMS is not able to do more.   N This may not be adefinitive answer, but may help you understand whaty goes on.  H I had put an old 250meg apple SCSI-1 drive on my VAXstation 3100. At theC console level, it was shows as existing, was able to format it etc.   I When I booted, VMS would begin to boot, at at one point, would just stop. K Physically powering off the drive and powering it back one would fix it and ( VMS would then continue to boot happily.  J The reason this was happening is that once VMS was sufficiently booted, itM started to issue its own SCSI-2 commands, and one of them probably jammed the K drive itself which didn't understand those commands. Powering off the drive M and back on cleared the problem and VMS was then able to continue (and did so S due to mount verification logic that allows VMS to retry IOs for a period of time).   J Also, do you know if the drive itself is properly configured ? (parity forK instance). I got a 4gig drive once which showed up fine in the console, but M VMS would constantly complain about parity errors. (and since I couldn't find K any doc for that drive model, couldn't figure out how ensure its parity was  set properly).   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:58:15 GMT  From: dittman@dittman.net # Subject: Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS 8 Message-ID: <HfHCc.26435$a61.13418@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>  8 Claude Marinier <claude.marinier@drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:. > Some answers to previously posted questions. > H > The SHOW CONFIG and SHOW DEV commands correctly list the devices that 2 > are attached to the system. The SCSI IDs are OK.  C SRM will show the devices if you are using a SCSI controller with a  supported chipset.  K > I have removed the LSI Logic SCSI controller (SYM8952U). I connected the  J > disk drives to the combo card; it has one DE500 plus two NCR 53875 SCSI D > controllers. That card uses the compact SCSI connectors; I got it 7 > working by adding a DLT drive (fun with SCSI cables).  > H > Everything is visible from the console. Interestingly, I can also see 3 > the SCSI devices when I boot from the VMS CD-ROM.   G Have you tried installing at this point and seeing if the disks show up  on the installed system?  H >> It has those dual SCSI/E'net controllers? I thought that there was no >> VMS support for them?  F It depends on the model number.  Some of them don't have the VMS/Tru64H ROMs.  Tru64 will use the controller anyway in 53C810 mode, but VMS will* complain and refuse to use the controller.  L If the controller is an Intraserver card, the part number will be ITI-xxxx-?L if the ? (there may be one or two characters and/or a number) has a V in it,H the card has the VMS/Tru64 ROMs.  For example, the ITI-4280UE-4 will notK work with VMS, but the ITI-4280UE-4V and ITI-4280UE-4VS will both work (the B "S" means it also has the proper OB firmware ROM for Sun systems). --   Eric Dittman dittman@dittman.net    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:24:35 -0400   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com># Subject: Re: DS20 from Tru64 to VMS 5 Message-ID: <1040624172304.1327C-100000@Ives.egh.com>   * On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Paul Repacholi wrote:  1 > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:  >  > > Robert Deininger wrote:  > O > >> One simple way to make drives disappear is to have a SCSI ID conflict.  Or E > >> a bad cable.  Have you done all the standard SCSI bus debugging?  > C > > I believe that in the original post, the writer stated that the G > > system worked fine with TRu64, and it is only when he tried to load   > > VMS that it stopped working. > G > > Assuming the above paragraph is correct, wouldn't the only possible B > > answer be a problem with VMS drivers not being compatible with? > > whatever device was loaded whereas the Tru64 drivers were ?  > H > It has those dual SCSI/E'net controllers? I thoought that there was no > VMS support for them?   B KZPCM?  Two SCSI ports + 10/100 Enet?  They work just fine on VMS.A Got lots of customers using them.  Many configured/sold/supported & by HP, so nothing unofficial about it.     --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:12:47 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>& Subject: Re: Equipment release policy?0 Message-ID: <87vfhhylxc.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  , "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> writes:  E > Think of it this way, how would you get data off a PDP-10 disk pack " > if you were handed one tomorrow?  7 Plug it into a RP06 and let it purge for a few days...     It's not an PR20 is it??   My standard (for some) is to     a) buy the system at auction  6 b) offer them a copy og MY data, for a suitable fee...   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:15:13 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> " Subject: Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER< Message-ID: <5LFCc.2754$474.1994@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>   Richard Maher wrote:   > Sorry, > % > here is the interactive eror list:_  >  > ?Invalid Login attempt > ?Login aborted > ?Security Check Failed >  > Please help. >  > Regards Richard Maher. >  > K > PS. Or at least tell me how to log a call with Compaq (or EDS?) to find a L > solution. We have a support agreement but like most VMS users have no ideaK > who to talk to when we need help. Thanks to John Apps and Stephen Hoffman A > unless we're using C and Tuxedo we can just piss off and die!!!  > > > Richard Maher <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message, > news:cbefst$jsc$1@sparta.btinternet.com... >  >>Hi,  >>0 >>I hope someone can help with an ACMS Question. >>L >>We have moved a copy of one system on box A to box B. SYSUAFs are the sameI >>UDU file is the same AAU file is the same; in fact the system disk is a  >  > copy > 9 >>of that on node A but it has been brought up as node B.  >>F >>The application has been installed and starts OK and looks good withI >>ACMS/SHOW SYS but when a user tries $ACMS/ENTER we get something like:-  >> >>?Authorization failure >>L >>and when I look at ACMSATR it says %acms-e-badagent which I think is a redJ >>herring 'cos we haven't needed /AGENT on the UDU usernames on node A. So? >>something is different on the two machines. Can anybody help?  >> >>Regards Richard Maher  >> >> >  >  >   I I seem to recall that there was something to do with the nodename (check  H   your licensing...) I have not touched ACMS since I was sold to Oracle , back in '94 (and left there a year later...)  I Another method is to try and use SET WATCH to figure out which file it's  F hitting before dying...  Also - are there any messages on the console  (REPLY/ENABLE=(NET,SEC) ).  G I don't recall who ended up with ACMS... I sent a message to someone I  H know in CSC to see if they might know...  Just got it back.  Log a call E with Colorado and request OpenVMS/ACMS support.  It should get there  A eventually...  (frontline/backline OpenVMS support handles it...)      Michael Austin   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:17:35 GMT & From: "B Hall" <bill03060@comcast.net>" Subject: Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER- Message-ID: <vFGCc.111822$0y.64672@attbi_s03>   > "Michael Austin" <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote in message6 news:5LFCc.2754$474.1994@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com... > Richard Maher wrote: > 
 > > Sorry, > > ' > > here is the interactive eror list:_  > >  > > ?Invalid Login attempt > > ?Login aborted > > ?Security Check Failed > >  > > Please help. > >  > > Regards Richard Maher. > >  > > K > > PS. Or at least tell me how to log a call with Compaq (or EDS?) to find  a I > > solution. We have a support agreement but like most VMS users have no  ideaE > > who to talk to when we need help. Thanks to John Apps and Stephen  Hoffman C > > unless we're using C and Tuxedo we can just piss off and die!!!  > > @ > > Richard Maher <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message. > > news:cbefst$jsc$1@sparta.btinternet.com... > >  > >>Hi,  > >>2 > >>I hope someone can help with an ACMS Question. > >>I > >>We have moved a copy of one system on box A to box B. SYSUAFs are the  sameK > >>UDU file is the same AAU file is the same; in fact the system disk is a  > >  > > copy > > ; > >>of that on node A but it has been brought up as node B.  > >>H > >>The application has been installed and starts OK and looks good withK > >>ACMS/SHOW SYS but when a user tries $ACMS/ENTER we get something like:-  > >> > >>?Authorization failure > >>J > >>and when I look at ACMSATR it says %acms-e-badagent which I think is a red L > >>herring 'cos we haven't needed /AGENT on the UDU usernames on node A. SoA > >>something is different on the two machines. Can anybody help?  > >> > >>Regards Richard Maher  > >> > >> > >  > >  > >  > J > I seem to recall that there was something to do with the nodename (checkI >   your licensing...) I have not touched ACMS since I was sold to Oracle . > back in '94 (and left there a year later...) > J > Another method is to try and use SET WATCH to figure out which file it'sG > hitting before dying...  Also - are there any messages on the console  > (REPLY/ENABLE=(NET,SEC) ). > H > I don't recall who ended up with ACMS... I sent a message to someone II > know in CSC to see if they might know...  Just got it back.  Log a call F > with Colorado and request OpenVMS/ACMS support.  It should get thereC > eventually...  (frontline/backline OpenVMS support handles it...)  >  >  > Michael Austin  K Check in ACMSGEN to see what account the CP process is running under.  That B username has to be in ACMSUDF.DAT with the /AGENT qualifier added.  	 Bill Hall  ACMS Project Leader  EDS    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:12:27 -0400 ( From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com>" Subject: Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER, Message-ID: <40db1b93$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message* news:cbefst$jsc$1@sparta.btinternet.com... > Hi,  > 0 > I hope someone can help with an ACMS Question.   Also check out  PROXIES.; At one time (version) ACMS was reading NETPROXY.DAT itself.    Cheers,  Hein.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:25:38 -0400 ( From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com>" Subject: Re: Error with ACMS/ENTER, Message-ID: <40db028a$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  > "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message* news:cbefst$jsc$1@sparta.btinternet.com... > Hi,   L > We have moved a copy of one system on box A to box B. SYSUAFs are the sameI > UDU file is the same AAU file is the same; in fact the system disk is a  copy9 > of that on node A but it has been brought up as node B.    How about RIGHTSLIST.DAT ?E Check:   UAF> SHOW/IDENT <acms$cp or whatever usename is specified in  ACMSGEN>  8 Below an internal notes converstation that suggests this hth, Hein.    Notes>= ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? K Note 1498.4           Upgrading to V3.1 and ACMS-E-BADAGENT               4  of 5I BSS::****** "European swallow or African swallow?"  19 lines  19-SEP-1990  18:06 5                             -< Missing identifier? >- ; ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 9 I recently spoke to a customer with this symptom as well. A In all previous discussions in this conference, Hein's suggestion I on the /AGENT seemed to be the failure -- this case was different though. C I haven't done anything to verify the accuracy of this information,  but it may help out.  A In this case, the customer was running VMS 5.4, and found that in C SYSUAF, the username for the CP process did not have any identifier F associated with it -- whereas in VMS 5.3, there  w a s  an identifier.0 They see this by doing a UAF> SHOW/IDENT ACMS$CP  B For other system users in SYSUAF, a SHOW/IDENT will show their UIC code as an identifier.  D To resolve the problem, she deleted ACMS$CP from SYSUAF, readded it,D which added the identifier.  Then, she deleted the CP username entryL from UDU and readded it.  This resolved her problem with the BADAGENT error.   Jim ( ----------------------------------------   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jun 2004 14:34:54 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) M Subject: HP is top IT service provider in Technology Business Research survey = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0406241334.51f03056@posting.google.com>   3 HP Tops Competitors in Customer Satisfaction Survey   B HP outperforms IBM and Dell, capturing top honors among IT service0 providers in Technology Business Research survey    PALO ALTO, Calif., June 24, 20049 http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2004/040624a.html   E HP earned the No. 1 ranking in customer satisfaction among vendors of D corporate information technology (IT) service and support, accordingF to the newly released Technology Business Research Inc.'s Corporate IT> Service and Support survey covering the first quarter of 2004. ... B "Customers ranked HP as among the best in class vendors across all? categories in our Corporate IT Service and Support survey, with = special distinction in the category of phone support where HP ? performed much better than its competitors," said Julie Perron, B manager of Primary Research, Technology Business Research Inc. "HPA Services' consistent performance with regards to phone support is > impressive in an area where customers have become particularly demanding."   C The study surveyed 688 mid-size to large companies in North America : finding that HP ranked No. 1 over competitors IBM and Dell ... F The study covers satisfaction with on-site support (break/fix), remote> support services (phone and Web support), hardware deployment,' software support and training services.   F "The TBR survey results confirm HP's commitment to delivering the bestD total customer experience through a combination of people, processesE and technology," said Mike Rigodanzo, senior vice president, Customer  Support, HP Services.  ... F This announcement caps a string of customer satisfaction awards for HP2 across its global business. Recent awards include:  E o  No. 1 in customer satisfaction among vendors - Corporate IT Buying C Behavior & Customer Satisfaction Study: Intel-based Servers - First / Quarter 2004, Technology Business Research Inc.   F o  "Ten Best Web Support Sites" - Association of Support Professionals (ASP), 2004   @ o  No. 1 in customer satisfaction - Enterprise IT Vendors: Cost,A Expectation, and Satisfaction, InterUnity Group and Computerworld  Survey, May 2004  D o  No. 1 for the third consecutive year in online customer respect - Customer Respect Group, 2004  ? o  "Technology Supplier of the Year," recognizing excellence in B customer service, product performance and pricing - Wal-Mart, 2003 ...    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:13:08 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Q Subject: Re: HP is top IT service provider in Technology Business Research survey @ Message-ID: <6720bbd944f848a76ff8974176942210@news.teranews.com>   Keith Parris wrote: D > HP outperforms IBM and Dell, capturing top honors among IT service2 > providers in Technology Business Research survey  K And at the same time, both IBM and Dell have claimed much greater growth in K services business than HP, in fact HP's growth slowed down from about 7% to I about 6% while Dell and IBM were twice that. This means that HP is losing 
 market share.    ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jun 2004 22:18:15 -07003 From: bruce.stafford@sbcglobal.net (Bruce Stafford) 9 Subject: Re: HXDRIVER VAX installation issues in OVMS 7.3 = Message-ID: <102eae4e.0406242118.1fe62baf@posting.google.com>   Z "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message news:<40DAE607.1070505@MMaz.com>... > Bruce Stafford wrote:  > F > >I have a MicroVAX 3500 with a DRQ3B Q-Bus interface card installed.D > >Had trouble getting older VAX disks and am using SCSI-1 disks andD > >CDROM devices via a third party Q-Bus to SCSI-1 Interface module.B > >Disks and CDROM work fine, however have had trouble loading theF > >HXDRIVER v1.4 from CDROM. Note that SCSI interface card uses vectorE > >300, so DRQ3B card is set for 310. Have license already installed. H > >Documentation claims that driver will work with v5.5 and up VMS. Does@ > >anyone have experience with VMS v7.3 with this HXDRIVER v1.4? > > ? > >Install goes fine, but does not create the HXDRIVER.exe. TheFA > >HX$LOAD.COM file can be run manually and should start a SYSGENEA > >operation and reload the HXDRIVER.EXE from SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES)D > >directory and connect to ports, then exit. Even though there is aB > >VMSINSTAL.HISTORY file that states the driver installation is aH > >success, the HXDRIVER.EXE cannot be located on the disk, so thereforeF > >the HX$LOAD.COM file does not produce a loadable image. Any helpful; > >information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.e > >0 > >  r > >oK > My first guess is that if this drive is linked at installation time, the iC > link is failing otherwise the driver would be there, or would be  H > provided as an image on the kit.  Look through the DCL procedures and 9 > find out where HX comes from, your answers are there...  >  > Barry    Barry:  D Thanks for your reply. As luck would have it, I tried installing theC HXDRIVER on another OVMS v6.2 disk (actually on another system) andeB was able to get the driver to load. I then copied the file to TK50E tape and then copied it to the target system with OVMS v7.3. Was thenUB able to load and test the driver successfully. The system messagesE during the install were vastly different than install efforts on OVMSuB v7.3, which indicates it has been tested up to this OS version butC probably not past it to later versions. I could write a book on howeB much trouble I had to get to today's success, but instead, I wouldF appreciate some pointers on how to debug/trace the install steps usingF DCL procedures. The HX014.A file is the kit for this driver. Could notE open this file to see what was going on during the install (not humanP9 readable). Is there a method to debug during the install?    Thanks,-   bruce.stafford@sbcglobal.net   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:39:41 GMT0- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>iI Subject: Re: Is OpenVMS 'Adaptive' according to HP, or just an Albatross?-@ Message-ID: <29c397d0cd6ee3ad637e1044f9459f2a@news.teranews.com>   Keith Parris wrote:rD > Not true. Dave Holt's presentation from the ENSA@work / HP-Interex@ > EMEA conferece in Munich in May entitled "OpenVMS Delivers the? > Adaptive Enterprise Now" contains slides covering the OpenVMSVD > implementation of Adaptive Enterprise components, with a timeline.  K But how come whenener Carly and her drones make a big splashy presentation, E they always omit VMS from their "Adaptive Enterprise" presentations ?t  M VMS may "has it now", but if they don't tell anyone, then it is just as if itd didn't have it.b   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:56:19 -0400n# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>oI Subject: Re: Is OpenVMS 'Adaptive' according to HP, or just an Albatross?s, Message-ID: <Or-dnR_5W-qLwUbd4p2dnA@igs.net>   JF Mezei wrote:- > Keith Parris wrote: E >> Not true. Dave Holt's presentation from the ENSA@work / HP-Interex@A >> EMEA conferece in Munich in May entitled "OpenVMS Delivers the @ >> Adaptive Enterprise Now" contains slides covering the OpenVMSE >> implementation of Adaptive Enterprise components, with a timeline.o >e? > But how come whenener Carly and her drones make a big splashyuE > presentation, they always omit VMS from their "Adaptive Enterprise"u > presentations ?  >eF > VMS may "has it now", but if they don't tell anyone, then it is just > as if it didn't have it.    I Exactly the message carly(tm) wants to convey, despite the spiffy OpenVMSl? t-shirt Sue gave her. I wonder if she wears it to bed at night?i   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:49:53 -0500t% From: Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp>a4 Subject: Re: More LAT questions on LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM. Message-ID: <slrncdm8d0.mhn.njc@wolfgang.uucp>  F I want to thank everyone for there help. I now undertand things better? than I did previously. Having said that I was playing with the nC lat@systartup.com file and blew something up. I can no longer bring B up lat! (???) I tried to restore the file to it's previous setting> but I must have changed something else. Anyway I now get this:  E Node Name:   VAX                            LAT Protocol Version: 5.2e Node State:  Ons) Node Ident:  .Welcome to OpenVMS VAX V6.1e  H Incoming Connections:  Enabled              Incoming Session Limit: NoneH Outgoing Connections:  Enabled              Outgoing Session Limit: None Service Responder:     Disabled.  E Circuit Timer (msec):        80             Keepalive Timer (sec): 20aD Retransmit Limit (msg):       8             Node Limit (nodes): None9 Multicast Timer (sec):       60             CPU Rating: 0u Maximum Unit Number:       9999n   User Groups:     0-255 Service Groups:  0-255  3 Service Name     Status      Rating  IdentificationhA VAX              Available      0 D  .Welcome to OpenVMS VAX V6.1   D The rating used to be 83 when it was working. I did use the lcp helpD and managed to change the rating but nothing started working. I haveF the CPU rating at 64 and the Servie rating at 64.Oh I can add servicesE all day and nothing changes. BTW, the Cisco router can see the DECNetrC portion (2.20) but fails to see any services advertised. The MV3100uE fails to see anythign the Cisco router advertises (it's doing the LAT  translation). Help!n   --  D Linux Home Automation         Neil Cherry        ncherry@comcast.net; http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/               (Text only)r= http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                 (SourceForge)A8 http://hcs.sourceforge.net/                     (HCS II)   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:26:39 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)4 Subject: Re: More LAT questions on LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM1 Message-ID: <newscache$57ytzh$gf61$1@news.sil.at>w  V In article <slrncdm8d0.mhn.njc@wolfgang.uucp>, Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp> writes:4 >Service Name     Status      Rating  IdentificationB >VAX              Available      0 D  .Welcome to OpenVMS VAX V6.1  A Could it be that you disabled the login (SET LOGIN/INTERACTIVE=0)kC or that you reached the userlimit (or the VMS user license limit) ?h  : The dynamic rating takes these things into its calculation@ and 0 means it wants no users to connect (that is called dynamic* rating calculation and is IMHO very good).  I Have you also tried LCP>CREATE SERVICE/STATIC_RATING=rating for a start ?s    C btw You seem to have used the default LAT$SYSTARTUP.COM which takesFM some default values for its parameters (like SYS$ANNOUNCE for the ID string).uL How about a completely lean one of your own ? I'm thinking of something like  H $       lcp     SET NODE 'node' /NOLOG /IDENT="''F$GETSYI (""HW_NAME"")'. $       lcp     CREATE SERVICE 'node' /NOLOG -O          /IDENT="OpenVMS ''F$GETSYI (""ARCH_NAME"")' ''F$GETSYI (""VERSION"")'" 1 $       IF server .AND. (cluster .NES. "") THEN -yN             lcp CREATE SERVICE 'cluster' /NOLOG /IDENT="VMScluster ''cluster'"= $       IF .NOT. satellite THEN lcp SET NODE/CONNECTIONS=BOTHr! $       lcp     SET NODE/STATE=ON     where used symbols could be like  $ $       lcp     := $SYS$SYSTEM:LATCP $	node	= F$GETSYI ("NODENAME")1 $       server	= (F$GETSYI ("NODE_VOTES") .NE. 0)o5 $       standalone = (F$GETSYI ("VAXCLUSTER") .EQ. 0) 2 $       satellite = .NOT. (server .OR. standalone)	 and so on   2 Smaller command files tend to have less errors ;-)   -- p Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERe% Network and OpenVMS system specialisty E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:21:13 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com>  Subject: Re: Mozilla 1.7* Message-ID: <40DB6FF9.9060502@bigpond.com>  & Bart Z. Lederman mentioned in passing:> > I tried it, and it did not wipe out my bookmarks, as someone > suggested it would.  > 7 > However, it did not carry over the toolbar extensionsv; > (adding the switch bar to turn java and javascript on andn: > off, adding the "clear location bar" (which is something9 > that __REALLY__ ought to be in the open location dialogu6 > box anyway) and font size buttons) from the previous8 > installation.  I find this to be very, very annoying. 9 > Fortunately, I've saved the PREFBAR.XPI file so I don'ti: > have to keep going to the Mozilla web site to re-install? > the extensions every time there is an upgrade or installation  > on a new system. > < > So far, I haven't really seen any differences between this; > version and the previous version in casual browsing.  Buto: > I'm willing to assume there are improvements underneath. >    It seems to be faster.A There however appears to be a problem with mail -- you seem to becA unable to manually flag a message as junk/not junk, the automatich stuff seems to work.E I am also having trouble trying to get two copies running (multi-headr
 workstation).g I have reverted to 1.4   Regards, Dave.s -- fI David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.comoI Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/VI DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennonn   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:11:25 -0500l2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: NTP and NTPDATE+ Message-ID: <40DB89CC.9D4BB30B@comcast.net>t   Louie wrote: > K > Running UCX version 4.2 with NTP as a client on a Alpha 2100 with OpenVMSmL > 7.1. Everything is fine until the server time jumps by more than 7.5 hoursC > following a powerdown or power blip. Then NTP won't set the time.e > M > Is there a NTPDATE program available for this version of UCX that I can runo  > from a COM script during boot? > 4 > Or maybe a way to configure NTP to reset the date? > L > Upgrading to TCP/IP version 5.0 is not an option because it will break the1 > software that is relying on FTP in version 4.2.v >  > Thanks in advancen  F Well, I would first find out why the hardware clock drifts so badly orE loses time in a power glitch. You may need a new clock battery and/orl( some surge supression / power filtering.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jun 2004 12:46:05 -0700* From: mclark@nemschoff.com (Michael Clark)X Subject: OpenVMS 7.2-1/Pathworks 6.0C NT4 Domain upgrade to Windows 2k3 Active Directory= Message-ID: <f5191d44.0406241146.35b640e6@posting.google.com>   B We are looking at upgrading our domain from Windows NT4 to WindowsE 2003 with active directory.  Currently we have two PC based NT domainsF controllers which would be upgraded/replaced with 2003 AD controllers.>  This should be very simple, but I have never done this with aF pathworks server.  Currently the server pathworks server is configuredB as a Domain controller.  I have read through the mailing lists andB have not found a good explanation of how/if this will work after I upgrade.  E I've come up with some alternative options if this will not work in ayF 2003 domain, such as making the VMS server its own domain and buildingB a trust relationship.  Again, I have never done anything like this before.     ? I have little experience with pathworks any assistance would ben greatly appreciated.  $ Pathworks version 6.0C OpenVMS 7.2-1   Please CC me on reply.  
 Michael Clark  Nemschoff Chairs Inc mclark at nemschoff dot comL" CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294 Fax:  (920) 453 6594   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:58:08 GMTt2 From: Bob Willard <BobwBSGS@TrashThis.comcast.net>! Subject: Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUDe- Message-ID: <4vFCc.111697$0y.22831@attbi_s03>    David Svensson wrote:a  w > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<683b75f58439faa39315381052462421@news.teranews.com>...h >  >>David Svensson wrote:  >>G >>>I partly agree with you here, but top500 does to some degree reflectaG >>>the popularity of an architecture as a whole. I am sure Sun would bem@ >>>much more happy if there were more SPARC systems on the list. >>P >>Top 500 doesn't reflect on popularity of a platform. The platform becomes moreN >>popular because of the visibility generated by having large presence in that" >>list. It is all about marketing. >  > E > Yes and no, visibility on top500 is ofcourse positive, but it's not 8 > all about marketing. You actually need performance andH > price/performance to be competetive too and to be on the list. It does1 > reflect popularity, not very much, but it does.m >  > L >>Which is why it would have been nice to see some ink about VMS/Alpha being >>present on that list.  >  >  > Well, you could hope. ;) >  > M >>Being on the top500 is the equivalent of car makers having entries in GrandsL >>Prix races. Shows that the manufacturer has the knowledge and capablity toH >>build something really fast and performant, gives manufacturer lost ofN >>exposure and talk in the press. But the to general consumer, there is littleL >>relationship between the car he/she drives and those cars fielded in Grand
 >>Prix races.> >  > F > Actually, the "supercomputers" of today are not impressive at all inD > my mind. Most of them are just cheap boxes clustered together, notF > rocket science anymore. The only interesting is when they use reallyF > advanced network connection technology. A Cray is a Grand Prix racerG > and the SGI machines are cool supercomputers, but a cluster is just adF > bunch of cheap Fiats, they should not be called supercomputers, they. > should be called superclusters or something.  2 If one ran WinDuhs, you might call it a supernova. -- y Cheers, Bob    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:53:31 -0400-# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ! Subject: Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUDC, Message-ID: <IPidnd3iA_fyxkbdRVn-sQ@igs.net>   Bob Willard wrote: > David Svensson wrote:M >?; >> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in messagel? >> news:<683b75f58439faa39315381052462421@news.teranews.com>...n >> >>> David Svensson wrote:  >>>tA >>>> I partly agree with you here, but top500 does to some degreeMD >>>> reflect the popularity of an architecture as a whole. I am sureE >>>> Sun would be much more happy if there were more SPARC systems onh >>>> the list. >>>cE >>> Top 500 doesn't reflect on popularity of a platform. The platformoF >>> becomes more popular because of the visibility generated by having; >>> large presence in that list. It is all about marketing.- >> >>F >> Yes and no, visibility on top500 is ofcourse positive, but it's not9 >> all about marketing. You actually need performance and D >> price/performance to be competetive too and to be on the list. It >> doess2 >> reflect popularity, not very much, but it does. >> >>> >>> Which is why it would have been nice to see some ink about) >>> VMS/Alpha being present on that list.I >> >> >> Well, you could hope. ;)t >> >>F >>> Being on the top500 is the equivalent of car makers having entriesF >>> in Grand Prix races. Shows that the manufacturer has the knowledgeF >>> and capablity to build something really fast and performant, givesC >>> manufacturer lost of exposure and talk in the press. But the to B >>> general consumer, there is little relationship between the car= >>> he/she drives and those cars fielded in Grand Prix races.- >> >>G >> Actually, the "supercomputers" of today are not impressive at all inpE >> my mind. Most of them are just cheap boxes clustered together, not G >> rocket science anymore. The only interesting is when they use reallyrG >> advanced network connection technology. A Cray is a Grand Prix racertH >> and the SGI machines are cool supercomputers, but a cluster is just aG >> bunch of cheap Fiats, they should not be called supercomputers, theyo/ >> should be called superclusters or something.0 >t4 > If one ran WinDuhs, you might call it a supernova.    K Reminds me of the days way back when Chevrolet tried selling the Chevy NovawH in Latin America. Nova in Spanish sounds exactly like "no va" or looselyG translated "doesn't go". Not exactly the message the car buyer wants tos! receive, subliminally or overtly.V  L Of course in the case of Microsot, supernova meaning 'blows up in your face' is quite appropriate.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:14:43 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUDd@ Message-ID: <f927c08b3c09ff80721d47b2d4e58810@news.teranews.com>   John Smith wrote:mM > Reminds me of the days way back when Chevrolet tried selling the Chevy NovafJ > in Latin America. Nova in Spanish sounds exactly like "no va" or looselyI > translated "doesn't go". Not exactly the message the car buyer wants ton# > receive, subliminally or overtly.l  M Or some american company trying to market the toothpase "Cue" in Qubec. (Cue-J is pronounced the same as Cul which means "ass"). Needless to say that the% brand didn't exactly succeed here :-)t   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jun 2004 21:03:43 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)a! Subject: Re: OT: Sun / Sparc  FUDs3 Message-ID: <X$Pi8mXsCeTg@eisner.encompasserve.org>D  n In article <cbe2hc$kbj$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__.harrison@___sun.com> writes: > Rob Young wrote:   > < > If you can also find a single posting from me that goes on= > to suggest that HPC has much relevance to the server markete, > as a whole then also feel free to post it. >   9 	Just one data point Andrew.  That is what I stated, justh 	a data point.  E 	Keep in mind, if one is to build a case that SPARC is flagging (on aeF 	decline ala VAX) there has to be more than a single indicator.  Like C 	Gartner pointing out Sun continues to shed marketshare, declining aC 	revenue, workstation retreat, and now recent top500 revelation all  	help to build a case.   	Why it wasn't too long ago:  K http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CB5931F.70707%40sun.com&output=gplaind  ' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancyo Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsO9 Subject: Re: another hint of post-merger direction, maybeu% Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:43:59 +0100t  E 1.    Yes I am happy with the top500 list, some people arn't so happyeE        about the measure used (Linpack) but numbers are available foroA        most HPC platforms and so its an expedient measure to use.x  C 2.    HPC wasn't a traditional Sun market, this has changed and theaH        fact that Sun is well represented in the top500 list is testiment        to this.r   ---s  A 	Two years later and Sun has 3 systems on the top500.  I'd gather-C 	you aren't too happy now with Sun's top500 position (lack of)?  Orn< 	is that a mis-representation of your feelings towards Sun's 	top500 placement?  ; > Inconsistency is one of your hallmarks starting with youra= > abrupt change of religion within 24 hours of the Alphacide,s= > perhaps because your opinions are so maleable you attributeo+ > this characteristic to others, who knows.o  D 	Ha.  The good-ship SPARCtanic is listing badly and your HPC puffery+ 	of 24 months ago looks rather funny today.r   > = > However as always in our discussions we have now got to the 6 > point where the facts intrude and refute your point. >   > 	Facts?  You seldom have them.  Mostly twist them to suit your: 	purposes or totally ignore them when they are blistering.   				Robs  B Men with walkie-talkie                  I'm home again to you babeC Men with flashlights waving             You know it makes me wondersG Up upon the tower                       Sittin' in the quiet slipstreamC> The clock reads daylight savin'         Rollin' in the thunder  -                                 -- Neil Youngp   ------------------------------   Date: 24 Jun 2004 19:00:18 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com % Subject: Re: Problem installing MySQL-, Message-ID: <cbf8c201qlv@enews4.newsguy.com>   jf.pieronne@laposte.net wrote:  D > You have probably installed MySQL 4.1.2-alpha kit, don't use this  > version, it    <snip>  ; > Instead use V4.0.20 which is the official stable version.i   > Sorry for any inconvenience.  J I was about to say I was trying the V4.0.20 kit, but it turns out I'm not,L instead I was running the 4.1.2-alpha kit.  I've uninstalled it, and am now I downloading V4.0.20.  Don't worry about the inconvenience, I'm just happyi you're making this available!Y   Zane   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:06:56 +0000 (UTC)c6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)C Subject: Re: RSA Secure ID  or other hardware token authentication?i1 Message-ID: <newscache$aqrtzh$ve41$1@news.sil.at>   e In article <1f85b7d9.0406232258.7b3ea132@posting.google.com>, vin@theworld.com (Vin McLellan) writes:wD ><bob@instantwhip.com> sang praise for SecurID support in TCPware --: >both products from the Australian firm, Process Software.  # Since when is PSC from Down Under ?E# I thought it is from New England...4   -- r Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERh% Network and OpenVMS system specialiste E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Jun 2004 19:34:12 -0700% From: vin@theworld.com (Vin McLellan)iC Subject: Re: RSA Secure ID  or other hardware token authentication?n= Message-ID: <1f85b7d9.0406241834.7e1c07d2@posting.google.com>e  B Martin Vorlaender <martin@radiogaga.harz.de> and Peter Langstoeger3 <peter@langstoeger.at> are both correct, of course.   F Process Software <www.process.com> is in Framingham, MA, USA -- only aD few miles from me, as it happens, and I should have known that. OpenD Systems Consultants <www.open.com.au>, the developer of Radiator, is? in Currumbin Waters, QLD, Australia. My apologies if I confuseda anyone.l  F (One of my kids, 9 year old Gabriella, remarks that it was cool that aD gentleman from Austria, and another from Germany, could point out to< her rapidly aging Dad that Process is a Yankee firm, and not Australian.)   Thank you for the corrections.   Suerte,l        _Vin>   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:35:54 +0800d, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>- Subject: Re: Split I/Os to contiguous file??? 0 Message-ID: <87r7s4ztv9.fsf@k9.prep.synonet.com>  5 "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:   > > Do you get split I/Os with only $QIO or $io_perform as well?  D You would have the IO split, but not yet having traipsed through theC code, I don't know how much is common or simular. Split IOs are duel@ to limits on the IO system, and an IOP instead of a QIO will not change several of them.t   -- o< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.i@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 02:04:41 GMT-1 From: "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net>m1 Subject: Re: TCPIP V5.3 - ECO 2 FTP server quirk?r8 Message-ID: <ZKLCc.29885$Yb1.18608@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>  E Having tried to work my way through this issue some time ago, IIRC, IeG believe the slash (/) character isn't legal at the end of any directory J specification for a 'cd' command for the FTP client; however, the command:   cd /   does seem to work.  L I never did determine if it was a limitation of the client or server or CRTL+ or what, just that I couldn't make it work.    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:24:17 -0500 (CDT)u From: sms@antinode.org1 Subject: Re: TCPIP V5.3 - ECO 2 FTP server quirk? ) Message-ID: <04062423241695@antinode.org>t  1 From: "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net>u  G > Having tried to work my way through this issue some time ago, IIRC, I I > believe the slash (/) character isn't legal at the end of any directoryaL > specification for a 'cd' command for the FTP client; however, the command: >  > cd / >  > does seem to work. > N > I never did determine if it was a limitation of the client or server or CRTL- > or what, just that I couldn't make it work.   B    As the suspense was killing me, I wrote a short program to testG chdir(), and it seems to be as happy as a bivalve with any (reasonable)d number of trailing slashes:h   alp $ exec cdt .6  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .   getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS]<.   alp $ exec cdt wg16  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .$  getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS.WG1]<.   alp $ exec cdt wg1/e6  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .$  getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS.WG1]<.   alp $ exec cdt wg1/doc6  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .(  getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS.WG1.DOC]<.   alp $ exec cdt wg1/doc/ 6  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .(  getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS.WG1.DOC]<.   alp $ exec cdt wg1/doc////////6  chdir() sts = 0, errno = 0, vaxc$errno = %x00000000 .(  getcwd() dir: >ALP$DKA0:[SMS.WG1.DOC]<.  E    Thus, I begin to suspect the FTP server itself (which may well not H use chdir()).  Of course, I've never forgiven it for failing to truncateD short log-file error messages which follow long ones.  Has this been
 fixed yet?  = 15-APR-2004 10:18:22.85 User:anonymous ident:Lgpuser@home.come2  status:00010001 CWD dir:SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ANONYMOUS]= 15-APR-2004 10:18:30.82 User:anonymous ident:Lgpuser@home.comG2  status:000186D4 CWD dir:ANONYMOUS:[public].;MOUS]2                                            ^^^^^^^      For the record:   ALP $ tcpip show version  ?   Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.3 - ECO 224   on a AlphaStation 200 4/233 running OpenVMS V7.3-1   ALP $ cc /versionc) Compaq C V6.5-001 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-14  G    Also, while I'm complaining, "on a AlphaStation" sounds as if it hadcG been written by a certain Sun employee, among whose virtues literacy is  not the most prominent.h  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------	    CDT.C:rH ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #include <errno.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <unistd.h>i    int main( int argc, char **argv) {: int sts; char dir_nam[ 1024];  
 if (argc > 1)$    {    sts = chdir( argv[ 1]);E    printf( " chdir() sts = %d, errno = %d, vaxc$errno = %%x%08x .\n",$     sts, errno, vaxc$errno);+    getcwd( dir_nam, (sizeof( dir_nam)- 1));o.    printf( " getcwd() dir: >%s<.\n", dir_nam);    } printf( "\n");	 return 0;m }iH ------------------------------------------------------------------------   alp $ show symbol exec   EXEC*UTE == "$SYS$DISK:[]'":  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org?    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547?   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT) - From: James O'Shea <seamas_ose@ameritech.net>n Subject: VAX  Spare PartsP@ Message-ID: <20040624212719.87279.qmail@web81109.mail.yahoo.com>   --0-993454979-1088112439=:87217?* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii   I'm back in the VAX world after a 5-year absence.  My client is concerned about spare hardware for their VAX 7000 cluster running V6.2.  e  e Does anyone know what how many VAX sites are still out there?   Does anyone have any idea how many used dealers are still selling VAX hardware?  Is it difficult to find?r  i Thanks,4
 Jim O'Shea Chicago, IL USA    --0-993454979-1088112439=:87217 ) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-asciit   <DIV>I'm back in the VAX world after a 5-year absence.&nbsp; My client is concerned about spare hardware for their VAX 7000 cluster running V6.2.&nbsp; </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>Does anyone know what how many VAX sites are still out there?&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone have any idea how many used dealers are still selling VAX hardware?&nbsp; Is it difficult to find?</DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>e <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV>Jim O'Shea</DIV>- <DIV>Chicago, IL USA </DIV>-! --0-993454979-1088112439=:87217--    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:25:00 GMTr- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: VAX  Spare Partsr@ Message-ID: <5bc814e59dc766cf2bc73895ab27c11f@news.teranews.com>   James O'Shea wrote:rM > Does anyone know what how many VAX sites are still out there?   Does anyonepL > have any idea how many used dealers are still selling VAX hardware?  Is it > difficult to find?  H If you do a search on the parts you want on alta-vista or google, you'll> likely find quite a few places that will sell you those parts.  ! Shop around. Prices vary greatly.y  I For some machines, it can be much cheaper to buy a used machine for partss& rather than to pay HP for maintenance.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:14:48 -0500n2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: VAX  Spare PartsT+ Message-ID: <40DB8A97.16B22273@comcast.net>i   James O'Shea wrote:r > A > I'm back in the VAX world after a 5-year absence.  My client issC > concerned about spare hardware for their VAX 7000 cluster runninge > V6.2.c > F > Does anyone know what how many VAX sites are still out there?   DoesB > anyone have any idea how many used dealers are still selling VAX% > hardware?  Is it difficult to find?m  : You'll find some local (far south-west suburban) folks at: http://www.vacs-inc.com/   Give 'em a buzz...   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:49:43 -0400v2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> Subject: Re: VAX  Spare Partse. Message-ID: <40DB5A87.26316.B1E0424@localhost>  , On 24 Jun 2004 at 14:27, James O'Shea wrote:A > I'm back in the VAX world after a 5-year absence. My client is oC > concerned about spare hardware for their VAX 7000 cluster running, > V6.2.   A They should migrate to CHARON-VAX.  They can use modern, off-the-a0 shelf hardware and not change their application.  
 Check out:  (     http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html  B [Another Shameless Plug (tm) from your local CHARON-VAX reseller.]  ? > Does anyone know what how many VAX sites are still out there?e  E Perhaps 150,000 in North America.  I'm replacing 'em one at a time...P  G > Does anyone have any idea how many used dealers are still selling VAXe% > hardware? Is it difficult to find? t  D There are lots of places that advertise parts, although 7000-series > parts are getting harder to find.  Note that *advertising* is ? different from *in stock*.  I have a couple of dealers I trust.Y  C Again, I'd recommend CHARON-VAX.  And not just because I sell it...   
 --Stan Quayle- Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:02:53 -050022 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>/ Subject: Re: VMS Gets Short Shrift at HP World.m+ Message-ID: <40DB87CC.B5548879@comcast.net>i   Andy Bustamante wrote: > G > What's the point?  Well we get to maintain our status as a reseller. e  6 I was more interested in its impact in the job market.   >That's%B > the business case.  It also adds some crediblity when I'm makingM > recommendations to my customers.  Over that last few years, being certified2M > has also provided direct benefits in reduced symposium fees.  It doesn't doc5 > the dishes, but it does add another tool to my kit.e  G ...and these days, we need all the tools we can get to counter-act hp'sh2 refusal to help us market either OpenVMS or Alpha.  @ Market perceptions about the future of Itanic are whole separate discussion, of course.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.350 ************************ks andD > >CDROM devices via a third party Q-Bus to SCSI-1 Interface module.B > >Disks and CDROM work fine, however have had trouble loading theF > >HXDRIVER v1.4 from CDROM. Note that SCSI interface card uses vectorE > >300, so DRQ3B card is set for 310. Have license already installed. H > >Documentation claims that driver will work with v5.5 and up VMS. Does@ > >anyone have experience with VMS v7.3 with this HXDRIVER v1.4? > > ? > >Install goes fine, but does not create the HXDRIV