1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 26 Jun 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 353       Contents: Re: JF on the American Dream" Re: RAID Array 450 and Controllers' Re: slap in the face again... thanks HP   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:04:55 +0800 : From: "Nik" <spamavoid.deletethis.mnjensen@netvigator.com>% Subject: Re: JF on the American Dream 0 Message-ID: <cbahfh$aun1@imsp212.netvigator.com>  8 "C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote in message( news:40D833E2.64196847@mindspring.com... >  >  > Nik wrote: > K > > You better take a look at the present balance of payment records of the  US -L > > they beat all records last quarter. You even have a president who claims< > > that this is no problem. Even Regan was not THAT stupid. > < > No, the people who are stupid are the one who take a piece> > of paper, not backed by anything but faith, and send us real: > goods. Suppose the balance of payments get so far out of< > wack that the Federal Reserve can't handle it? What do you= > think they will do? You don't suppose they might just crank 9 > up the old printing presses do you? I'd say monitor the < > printing press industry. When yous see orders for new high< > quality presses, hold on! It got sop bad in Germany in the6 > 20's that they couldn't print the money fast enough. >  > Ed   You are making a good point.  H However, I do not believe that the printing press is the biggest problemI though. What might happen (and what has happened once before) is that the  market looses faith in the US$.   J Now what will happen then? The US$ would enter into a free fall. Its a fee, market. Many want to sell - few want to buy.  B This in turn will lead to huge inflation. Import prises will rise.G Remember - contrary to popular belief - that trade is not in itself the H reason for the deficit.  Trade is only the way through which the economyL deals with the underlying imbalance. Namely the imbalance between productionJ and consumption. Well - the US administration might be far too populist toI admit this and take the proper action to deal with this. They might blame C the Chinese in stead as they have been blaming the Japanese before.   < The way that the US might deal with such a situation will be  K 1) huge increase in interest rates to try to stop people from selling their L US$. This would cool the US economy down to the freezing point which in turn would bring down the imbalance  J 2) ask (again) their European and Asian allies to tell their central banksL to buy US$. They might agree to do this IF the they getting paid politicallyK by the US government. The Chinese might ask the US to remove their military J from the Chinese Sea so that they can take care of the Taiwan problem theyF way they find fit. The Germans might demand the US submit to the KyotoK treaty unconditionally (you'll have to pay European prices at the pump (1-2 H US$$ a litter!) and the French might tell them to ask them before the USK military is being used for anything. Whoever might demand that the US agree K to the international court of law that would allow US military personnel to D stand trial in an international court for any crimes they might haveJ committed (hi hi Rumsfeldt so long. You'll enjoy the company of the peopleK from the Balkans. Many of them were - as many neocons. from the US - former L Communists). The Japanese might - beside supporting the Europeans in some ofH their demands - demand that all street signs in the US as well as public< announcements get written and spoken also in their language.  I All in all - the military spending might be hugely reduced (together with J Medicare, pension payments, road works, education) and taxes will increaseF dramatically - in particular taxes on energy. This will bring down theI government deficit (again created by yet another presidential lunatic who L might even be more stupid than Reagan) which would reduce the amount of cashF in the economy - hence bring down the imbalance between production and consumption.  G Don't worry about the printing press. Worry about the level of economic J activity, inflation and the level of political influence. Worry also aboutH the level of taxes (in particular on energy) and the level of governmentJ services. These are the areas that most likely will be hit - and hit hard!  I One light note though. This might well make the US less interresting as a . target of terror. Hence you will be more safe.     Nik    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:09:20 +1000 ' From: "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> + Subject: Re: RAID Array 450 and Controllers < Message-ID: <40dd48b9$0$18194$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>  G Without knowing more detail, I would say yes. Check out the Golden eggs J stuff on http://h18003.www1.hp.com/info/GECPQA/. These pages are great andG show you worked examples of real cabling and physical configurations. I  refer to them often!! J I have an HSJ50 configuration and found the following manual invaluable in setting it up.# v51_hsx50_cli_reference_rev_b01.pdf D You will notice that the manual is for HSx50 systems i.e it would beG suitable for HSJ50, HSZ50 amd HSD50 systems. I expect there would be an  equivalemt manual for HSJ40.... & I hope this helps in some way.........       TANSTAAFL wrote in message4 <94fe3101.0406242348.34d19451@posting.google.com>...F >I have a Raid Array 450.  It came with HSZ40 controllers.  Can anyoneF >tell me if the 450 is compatible with the HSJ40 controllers?  I would: >suspect so, but do not want to take anything for granted. >  >Alex    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:19:51 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG0 Subject: Re: slap in the face again... thanks HP0 Message-ID: <00A33EE7.348A8F4B@SendSpamHere.ORG>  q In article <Tly8hrJcTq6N@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: i >In article <d7791aa1.0406221722.193e6ad9@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:  >>  C >> why not windoze only ... it is fine as a client, but that is it!  > F >   Playing that video on my company's windoze system was an excellent/ >   demonstration that it is NOT a fine client.    :)   No further comment Bob?    --  B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.  --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.353 ************************