1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 08 Mar 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 134       Contents:" Digital Personal workstation 600au& Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au& Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au& Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au dismounting a spooled device  Re: dismounting a spooled device  Re: dismounting a spooled device  RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS( Re: How to Ping Between OpenVMS and Unix HP CSWB problem on AS4100  Is DISK a new command? Re: Is DISK a new command?G Re: OpenVMS virus proof while other disks get zapped by latest viruses! D Re: Professional Agitator - Harrison, Andrew. Confimed on sun.com!!!6 Re: The Inquirer:   HP re-thinking its IA-64 strategy?G Re: Two problems: qui$ external and procedure division using (external) ! Re: VMS  5.5 and layered products  Re: [TCPIP V5.4] More rants  Re: [TCPIP V5.4] More rants   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 06:37:53 GMT & From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com>+ Subject: Digital Personal workstation 600au 8 Message-ID: <7eel401knbnd6r9atjl8dqaop845m5erd2@4ax.com>   I hope someone can help me....   I have two questions....  F I  have a Digital Personal Workstation 600au that I would like to likeC to put VMS on.  I had NT on it and I changed it over to SRM and set  the following Parameters   boot_osflags ""  auto_action halt OS_type OpenVMS  Bootdef_dev dka0  ? I have the following devices on the machine after a show device    DKA0		RZ1CB-BS			0818  DKA300	COMPAQ BD018635C4		B017" DQA0		TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B	1110 DVA0 EWA0 PKA0		mac address  PQA0		SCSI Bus IS 7  PQA0		PCI EIDE PQB0		PCI EIDE    B WHen put the 7.3.-2 CD into the machine and boot with the command    boot -flags 0,0 dka0  " I get the following on the screen:        boot dqa0.0.0.4.0  1      block 0 of dqa0.0.04.0 is a valid boot block )      reading 1134 blocks from dqa0.0.04.0       bootstrap code read in 0      base=1d800 image_start=-, Image_bytes=8dc00      Initializing HWRPBat 2000&      Initializing page table at 1CA000      Initializing machine state $      Setting affinity to primary CPU      Jumping to bootstrap code  3      OpenVMS Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-2 C      c Copywrite 1976-2003 Hewlett-Packard Development Company L.P.   E      INIT_IO_DB-F-CFG_DEV_NOT_FOUND, a device onthe boot line, or in  2      Boot_Dev cannot be found in the config tables  =     -console pathname IDE 0 4 0 0 0 0 0, ID=00000000.06461095   8     Ignoring the device, and not loading the boot driver  =     OpenVMS Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-2 - BUGCHECK   E and thent he system trys to write a Dump to the disk and of course it C cannot.  It looks like it is in an infinet loop since it just keeps   tring to boot until I power down  E Is my problem, that 7.3-1 does not support this machine??????  If not  what am I doing wrong??     D THe version of VMS that I really want on this machine is 7.2-1 sinceB our 3 alphas are running 7.2.-1 but we cannot find the CD's in theC office.  Does anyone have an ISO image they can send me or point me  to?    Thanks in advance   
 Gary Henry   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:33:45 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>/ Subject: Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au 2 Message-ID: <404b791a$0$288$626a14ce@news.free.fr>   G Henry wrote:  > I hope someone can help me....   Sture... Oooops... sure :-)   P The PWS600au (I have one) was a UNIX/NT machine. The CD-ROM drive is an IDE one.O Swap it with a SCSI one, with the right flat cable, and Bob will be your uncle.   L VMS kinda boots that far sometimes from the genuine drive, but no way then.  Forget about it and swap.   Q I promise I'll write down and post my PWS600au experience as soon as I have some   time.   
 opzatelps,   D. --  2 VAXUS - Your new helpful friend in the DEC Family!2 EHQ: 19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France/       Phone: +336 7983 6418 Fax: +335 6154 1928 $                 http://www.vaxus.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:47:00 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> / Subject: Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au ' Message-ID: <404B0BB4.659EA3E0@aaa.com>   & There are problems with DQ* type CD's.. You cold rebuild the box to use a DK* type CD.0 Or connect a BA356 box, install VMS in a SW-disk3 on a nother system, moce the system disk to the PWS % and boot directly from the SCSI disk. # And, have you checked the VMS FAQ ?   	 Jan-Erik.      G Henry wrote:  C > WHen put the 7.3.-2 CD into the machine and boot with the command  >  > boot -flags 0,0 dka0    [should have been dqa0, right ?]   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 16:57:49 GMT & From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com>/ Subject: Re: Digital Personal workstation 600au 8 Message-ID: <k1lm40tviti2hu21qhmpqqmpqecgeenfjr@4ax.com>  B On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 06:37:53 GMT, G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com> wrote:  " I just found the fllowing Technote  < http://ftp.support.compaq.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/683.htm  < that says that as of VMS 7.1 the Toshiba XM-6202B 32x CD-ROM
 is supported     ANYONE have any other ideas???   Thanks     Gary       >I hope someone can help me....  >  >I have two questions....  > G >I  have a Digital Personal Workstation 600au that I would like to like D >to put VMS on.  I had NT on it and I changed it over to SRM and set >the following Parameters  >  >boot_osflags "" >auto_action halt  >OS_type OpenVMS >Bootdef_dev dka0  > @ >I have the following devices on the machine after a show device >  >DKA0		RZ1CB-BS			0818 >DKA300	COMPAQ BD018635C4		B017 # >DQA0		TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B	1110  >DVA0  >EWA0  >PKA0		mac address >PQA0		SCSI Bus IS 7 >PQA0		PCI EIDE  >PQB0		PCI EIDE  >  > C >WHen put the 7.3.-2 CD into the machine and boot with the command   >  >boot -flags 0,0 dka0  > # >I get the following on the screen:  >  >     boot dqa0.0.0.4.0 2 >     block 0 of dqa0.0.04.0 is a valid boot block* >     reading 1134 blocks from dqa0.0.04.0 >     bootstrap code read in  1 >     base=1d800 image_start=-, Image_bytes=8dc00  >     Initializing HWRPBat 2000 ' >     Initializing page table at 1CA000   >     Initializing machine state% >     Setting affinity to primary CPU  >     Jumping to bootstrap code  > 4 >     OpenVMS Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-2D >     c Copywrite 1976-2003 Hewlett-Packard Development Company L.P. > F >     INIT_IO_DB-F-CFG_DEV_NOT_FOUND, a device onthe boot line, or in 3 >     Boot_Dev cannot be found in the config tables  > > >    -console pathname IDE 0 4 0 0 0 0 0, ID=00000000.06461095 > 9 >    Ignoring the device, and not loading the boot driver  > > >    OpenVMS Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3-2 - BUGCHECK > F >and thent he system trys to write a Dump to the disk and of course itD >cannot.  It looks like it is in an infinet loop since it just keeps! >tring to boot until I power down  > F >Is my problem, that 7.3-1 does not support this machine??????  If not >what am I doing wrong?? >  > E >THe version of VMS that I really want on this machine is 7.2-1 since C >our 3 alphas are running 7.2.-1 but we cannot find the CD's in the D >office.  Does anyone have an ISO image they can send me or point me >to? >  >Thanks in advance >  >Gary Henry    ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 06:52:22 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)% Subject: dismounting a spooled device $ Message-ID: <c2egr5$pk6$1@online.de>  D I want to dismount a disk, but the system complains that there is a  device spooled to it.   & How do I find out what this device is?  H I'm pretty sure that I don't need the spooled device; it's probably the H result of some obsolete queue.  Is there a way I can unspool the device I without knowing the details (necessary only if I can't find out what the   device is).    ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 14:43:49 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)) Subject: Re: dismounting a spooled device $ Message-ID: <c2fcf5$nmr$1@online.de>  G In article <c2enpt$1t5ljr$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Hans Vlems" " <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> writes:    > N > "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>3 > schreef in bericht news:c2egr5$pk6$1@online.de... G > > I want to dismount a disk, but the system complains that there is a  > > device spooled to it.  > > * > > How do I find out what this device is? > > K > > I'm pretty sure that I don't need the spooled device; it's probably the K > > result of some obsolete queue.  Is there a way I can unspool the device L > > without knowing the details (necessary only if I can't find out what the > > device is).  > >  > Wouldn't this help:  >  > $ show dev dja0:/files  + Surprisingly, this didn't show up anything.   A The device turned out to be a LAT device.  I only use LAT for SET G HOST/LAT.  I'm not sure what the purpose of a spooled LAT device is in  ; this context.  In any case, once I found it things were OK.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:15:44 -0500 * From: Chuck Chopp <ChuckChopp@rtfmcsi.com>) Subject: Re: dismounting a spooled device 9 Message-ID: <c%G2c.25847$JN2.6066@bignews4.bellsouth.net>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:   I > In article <c2enpt$1t5ljr$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Hans Vlems" $ > <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> writes:  >  > N >>"Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>3 >>schreef in bericht news:c2egr5$pk6$1@online.de...  >>F >>>I want to dismount a disk, but the system complains that there is a >>>device spooled to it. >>> ) >>>How do I find out what this device is?  >>> J >>>I'm pretty sure that I don't need the spooled device; it's probably theJ >>>result of some obsolete queue.  Is there a way I can unspool the deviceK >>>without knowing the details (necessary only if I can't find out what the  >>>device is). >>>  >> >>Wouldn't this help:  >> >>$ show dev dja0:/files >  > - > Surprisingly, this didn't show up anything.  > C > The device turned out to be a LAT device.  I only use LAT for SET I > HOST/LAT.  I'm not sure what the purpose of a spooled LAT device is in  = > this context.  In any case, once I found it things were OK.  >     M Your LTAnnnn: terminal device was probably set up to be spooled to disk as a  J side-effect of having been used for a print queue at one time or another. K Regular applications can submit print jobs to print queues for processing,  E but some very old applications were developed before the print queue  I subsystem existed.  The way these older applications printed was to copy  G output directly to a terminal device with a serial or parallel printer  K directly attached to it.  This is analogous to the "C:\> COPY somefile.txt  M LPT1:" method in DOS.  When the print queue subsystem was implemented, there  M needed to be a way for these older applications to still send print job data  J   in the same way as always, but with the end result being that the print I job data ended up in a temporary file that would be submitted to a print  H queue as a print job.  Spooling the terminal device simply identifies a J volume on which the print job data may be stored as an application writes M data to the terminal device.  When the application closes its channel to the  L terminal device, which signifies the print job is "complete", the temporary J file that contains the print job data is then submitted as a print job to L the print queue that was assigned to it when the terminal device was set up  as being spooled.      --   Chuck Chopp   8 ChuckChopp (at) rtfmcsi (dot) com http://www.rtfmcsi.com1                                    ICQ # 22321532 @ RTFM Consulting Services Inc.     864 801 2795 voice & voicemail2 103 Autumn Hill Road              864 801 2774 fax4 Greer, SC  29651                  800 774 0718 pagerC                                    8007740718 (at) skytel (dot) com   , Do not send me unsolicited commercial email.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 14:13:39 -0500' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ) Subject: RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB279605@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----C > From: Daryl Jones [mailto:jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net]=20  > Sent: March 7, 2004 3:44 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com + > Subject: Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  >=20 > Dear John Smith: >=20B > Remember, VMS was not the only platform that was dropped from=20> > Sybase support at that time. The one item that stands out=20B > amoungst the 14 OSs that were dropped was the cost of support=20 > and their growth potential. ? > Sybase was a sinking ship at those times and the rats were=20 @ > leaving. It was shocking the number of offices that emptied=20 > out while I was there. >=20? > I have heard of VMS being sent up as its own company since=20 @ > Palmer was in the chair. VMS is a cash cow to its owners. I=20B > have heard that Government is big user of VMS and like UNISYS=20B > its not going away anytime soon. So don't hold breath. I hate=20# > to see you turn blue for nothing.  >=20C > My guess why Sybase 10 ran like a dog had to do more with DECnet. > > There were 90 tests that had be completed for testing the=20? > software fixes. One of the big complaints I heard was that=20 : > Sybase 10 with VMS using DECnet took twice as long as=20# > compared UNIX using TCPIP. Sybase > > 11 with VMS using DECnet was the same. However, Sybase 11=20A > with VMS using TCPIP took the same time as UNIX using TCPIP.=20 ? > The problem wasn't VMS. It was DECnet! The simple solution=20 > > was to move the VMS clients from DECnet to TCPIP and that=20. > took 5 minutes. Nobody at Sybase had a clue! >=20A > There were other problems in Sybase and if their clients had=20 A > known about it. I don't think Sybase would have kept many of=20 @ > their VMS customers. If you have read carefully what I have=20A > written, you could guess what one of the major problems were=20  > with Sybase 11 for VMS.  >=20 > I leave it there.  >=20 > Best Regards, 
 > Daryl Jones  >=20 >=20   Daryl,  H Thx for the update. Just curious, but do you know if Sybase now (v12.x?)H has a cluster feature which allows multiple nodes to access the database, at the same time i.e. similar to Oracle RAC?  G As I recall, that was a historical issue with Sybase on any platform in F that their clustering capabilities were not very good. I think V12 wasH the first release to even have simple fail-over type capabilities, but I might be mistaken on this..    Any feedback on this?    Thx     
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:47:15 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>) Subject: Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS ) Message-ID: <404AA92C.4D641DAF@istop.com>    John Smith wrote: M > Of course 5 years of support does not apply to bankrupt companies. Don't be N > suprised if VMS got spun into self-standing entity just prior to IA-64 beingK > killed and HP/Intel decline to license rights to Alpha or IA64 to anyone. B > Goodbye platform, hello bankruptcy, goodbye 5 years of support.   L Nop. HP would do to VMS the same as it did to MPE. Bankrupcy offers the riskN that bankrupcy court will sell the VMS jewels to an HP competitor. Much better= for HP to just keep ownership of it and just stop selling it.   J However, HP could structure the separate company such that HP would be theN biggest creditor. So when bankrupcy is declared, HP could lay claim to all theL intellectual property and employees of VMS Inc, but none of its liabilities.  I Note that this is how American Airlines structured its "purchase" of TWA.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 03:11:39 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ) Subject: Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS H Message-ID: <Lpw2c.129267$sl.59558@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  D "Daryl Jones" <jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message7 news:8a646952.0403061501.40d8bcd0@posting.google.com...  > Dear John Smith: > C > What you are taunting about is theory. What I am talking about is C > real. I was there fixing the 11.x server build just after VMS was H > abandon. So, when I said the reason was financial rather than anythingE > else, this was reason being said internal to Sybase in 1997. At the F > end of 1997, Sybase was supposed to be in the black. However, it wasC > found out that Sybase Japan had counted 90-day licenses as sales. D > Supposedly, all of the Japanese personnel were let go. Sybase wentE > from black to red, which cause the laying off of all contractors. I F > wasn't affected. I already had another contract setup. Sybase neededG > to financially grow out of their problems. VMS didn't have the growth C > potential. Sybase/VMS had some big customers like GTECH and a big G > financial company in NYC that had a lot of weight in Sybase. So, they ? > had to give the VMS users until 2004 before pulling the plug.       K Ever hear of a guy named John Chen? I don't really know if he was at Sybase K back then or not (97-99), but in more recent conversations I have been told J that since the Sybase/VMS market was negative growth then (a positive spinF on a losing proposition), the decision was made to pull the plug. ThatK Sybase 10 was a dog's breakfast didn't help, as a large number of customers K chose to wait for Sybase 11, but the driving consideration by Sybase at the J time with respect to VMS was that Digital/Compaq was doing squat to market VMS.  K As to the 5 years of support after EOL - that is required under FTC rules - L same if you are Ford, GM, or any other manufacturer. If Sybase customers gotF an extra year or two, then it's because Sybase was doing them a favor.J Notice that Compaq/HP's 'solemn promise' of support for 5 years in variousJ and sundry statements refers indirectly to that very same FTC requirement.  K Of course 5 years of support does not apply to bankrupt companies. Don't be L suprised if VMS got spun into self-standing entity just prior to IA-64 beingI killed and HP/Intel decline to license rights to Alpha or IA64 to anyone. H Goodbye platform, hello bankruptcy, goodbye 5 years of support. Consider4 yourself hosed, and thank you for chosing BillyWare.   Have a nice day.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2004 19:53:18 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ) Subject: RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS 3 Message-ID: <V0Mb5Ehu0xrs@eisner.encompasserve.org>   | In article <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB279605@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> writes:  J > Thx for the update. Just curious, but do you know if Sybase now (v12.x?)J > has a cluster feature which allows multiple nodes to access the database. > at the same time i.e. similar to Oracle RAC? > I > As I recall, that was a historical issue with Sybase on any platform in H > that their clustering capabilities were not very good. I think V12 wasJ > the first release to even have simple fail-over type capabilities, but I > might be mistaken on this..   H in 1997 the Sybase design was heavily dependent on shared memory betweenE processes.  They stopped developing for VMS just before Galaxy became @ available, which would have solved their VMS performance issues.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:41:15 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ) Subject: Re: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS K Message-ID: <fwG2c.131323$ah.17145@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   D "Daryl Jones" <jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message7 news:8a646952.0403070044.1d47ac18@posting.google.com...  > Dear John Smith: > F > Remember, VMS was not the only platform that was dropped from SybaseH > support at that time. The one item that stands out amoungst the 14 OSsG > that were dropped was the cost of support and their growth potential. H > Sybase was a sinking ship at those times and the rats were leaving. ItH > was shocking the number of offices that emptied out while I was there. > G > I have heard of VMS being sent up as its own company since Palmer was B > in the chair. VMS is a cash cow to its owners. I have heard thatB > Government is big user of VMS and like UNISYS its not going awayE > anytime soon. So don't hold breath. I hate to see you turn blue for 
 > nothing. > C > My guess why Sybase 10 ran like a dog had to do more with DECnet. D > There were 90 tests that had be completed for testing the softwareF > fixes. One of the big complaints I heard was that Sybase 10 with VMSF > using DECnet took twice as long as compared UNIX using TCPIP. SybaseD > 11 with VMS using DECnet was the same. However, Sybase 11 with VMSH > using TCPIP took the same time as UNIX using TCPIP. The problem wasn'tE > VMS. It was DECnet! The simple solution was to move the VMS clients F > from DECnet to TCPIP and that took 5 minutes. Nobody at Sybase had a > clue!  > D > There were other problems in Sybase and if their clients had knownB > about it. I don't think Sybase would have kept many of their VMSF > customers. If you have read carefully what I have written, you couldC > guess what one of the major problems were with Sybase 11 for VMS.     L Sybase 10 on SunOS/Solaris also was a dog -- we tested it in pre-production,J weren't impressed, and decided to wait for System 11. Had System 11 turnedA out to be just as awful, we would have migrated to Oracle for the & application we were using Sybase with.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:50:58 -0500' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> ) Subject: RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB27961C@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----9 > From: Larry Kilgallen [mailto:Kilgallen@SpamCop.net]=20  > Sent: March 7, 2004 8:53 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com + > Subject: RE: GTECH, Lotteries and OpenVMS  >=20 > In article=20 @ > <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB279605@tayexc19.americas.cpqc3 orp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> writes:  >=20F > > Thx for the update. Just curious, but do you know if Sybase now=20A > > (v12.x?) has a cluster feature which allows multiple nodes=20  > to access=20= > > the database at the same time i.e. similar to Oracle RAC?  > >=20B > > As I recall, that was a historical issue with Sybase on any=20
 > platform=20 B > > in that their clustering capabilities were not very good. I=20 > think V12=20? > > was the first release to even have simple fail-over type=20  > capabilities,=20% > > but I might be mistaken on this..  >=20> > in 1997 the Sybase design was heavily dependent on shared=20? > memory between processes.  They stopped developing for VMS=20 A > just before Galaxy became available, which would have solved=20  > their VMS performance issues.  >=20  
 Larry -=20  G Do you know if they ever supported clustering on any platform in Sybase  10/11?  < What about Sybase 12 - what kind of clustering do they have?   Thx   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 22:28:30 GMT 0 From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com>1 Subject: Re: How to Ping Between OpenVMS and Unix = Message-ID: <imN2c.92135$Wa.51700@news-server.bigpond.net.au>   9 Minor correction... instead of "ipconfig" use "ifconfig".    --  = -------------------------------------------------------------  OpenVMS TCP/IP Engineering Enterprise Computing Group Hewlett-Packard Company  Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA = -------------------------------------------------------------     C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message * news:newscache$68z5uh$pd4$1@news.sil.at...I > In article <4049a6e4$0$3880$3a628fcd@reader1.nntp.hccnet.nl>, "Nico van 3 der Boom" <posthere-answerhere@hotmail.com> writes: 9 > >In the VMS environment you can add a pseudo interface.  > + > One solution, but no longer the only one.  > 
 > >example) > >when you use the UCX of TCPIP package. = > >suppose you have an interface called we0    (ucx show int)  > >add a pseudo interface  > > C > >$ ucx set interface wea0 /host=192.1.2.250/network=255.255.255.0  > >/broad=192.1.2.255 1 > >(check syntax, i am not on a system right now)  > 
 > Correct. > 7 > >a pseudo interface has an 'a' in the interface name.  > # > Not all. WE0 => WEA0, WE1 => WEB0  > D > >so with ewa0 device, ucx interface we0, ucx pseudo interface wea0 > J > WE0 => WEA0, WEA1, WEA2, ... VMS Device EWAx:   x related to socket/connL > WE1 => WEB0, WEB1, WEB2, ... VMS Device EWBx:   not ifc; means x counts up >  >  > But there is another method  > G > $ TCPIP IPCONFIG ALIAS alias-address[/bitmask] ! Add an alias address A > $ TCPIP IPCONFIG -ALIAS alias-address ! Remove an alias address  > J > NOTE: You can't see alias addresses added with ipconfig in the output ofD > TCPIP SHOW INTERFACE until one of the next ECOs/versions of TCPIP. >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 18:18:36 +1100' From: "alphadoc" <all.the.fun@the.fair> " Subject: HP CSWB problem on AS4100< Message-ID: <404acb50$0$31901$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>  I I have downloaded and installed the HP secure web browser V1.4 as per the 
 instructions. B I can open web pages successfully until I get the following error:, %DEBUGBOOT-W-EXQUOTA, process quota exceeded2 %CXXL-F-EXCEPTION, exception thrown at PC=005620DC  K Needless to say the browser has bombed by the time I can read this and I am  back at my Xterm.   K I quickly looked at the FAQ, and at the wizard, and as a result applied the  following patches: VMS731_PCSI-V0200  VMS731_UPDATE-V0200  VMS731_SYS-V0500 VMS731_ACRTL-V0300    The problem has not been solved.  G When I installed CSWB, the following was necessary but not specifically ' documented in the installation process: J I had to increase the value of MIN_GBLSECTIONS in SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT to get DecWindows to start. K Have I missed something else? the error feels like I am hitting a memory or  page limit. Am I close?    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 01:08:52 +0300! From: "pbc" <pbc@informchaos.com>  Subject: Is DISK a new command? 0 Message-ID: <c2g6hp$2dnr$1@alpha2.radio-msu.net>   Hi  I I'm using OVMS 7.3 on my XP1000. After reading Open VMS System Management B Guide I tried to use DISK getting an error no such command exists.   Peter    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 03:38:02 +0300! From: "pbc" <pbc@informchaos.com> # Subject: Re: Is DISK a new command? 0 Message-ID: <c2gf9f$2heb$1@alpha2.radio-msu.net>   $ DISK  @ I expect to get a graphical display of current disk utilization:   Disk  L        --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------  RRD43    ALPHA073 L ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||L |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||86% RZB29    ALPHASYS L ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||! ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||64%   . something like this. As described on page 315.      E "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> /  ?  : news:newscache$0rc8uh$udc1$1@news.sil.at... 8 > In article <c2g6hp$2dnr$1@alpha2.radio-msu.net>, "pbc" <pbc@informchaos.com> writes: L > >I'm using OVMS 7.3 on my XP1000. After reading Open VMS System ManagementE > >Guide I tried to use DISK getting an error no such command exists.  > # > What do you expect "DISK" to do ? + > Diskquota like in "SYSMAN> DISK SHOW *" ?  >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 02:58:06 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")P Subject: Re: OpenVMS virus proof while other disks get zapped by latest viruses!6 Message-ID: <00A2E735.6C56B479@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  h In article <d7791aa1.0403061809.292099b5@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:k >bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote in message news:<c2d0rh$1rv0t1$3@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>...  >>  L >> Uhhhh....  Bob just said he runs "powerterm for vt emulation".  PowertermK >> is a Windows program, not a VMS program. He may not see it, recognize it K >> or be willing to admit it, but he is running Windows, just like everyone J >> else.  He doesn't have VMS to the desktop and his employers systems are' >> just as vulnerable as anyone else's.  >>   >> bill  > : >we use both vt's and where internet/mail access is wanted= >we use thin clients w/built in powerterm and either internet < >exploder or mozilla ... their are no disks ... the software< >is built in to the thin screen along with speakers ... they: >are not vulnerable as VMS is also not ... there have been; >vt emulation thin clients for years now ... unhackable and = >a good option for a vt when someone wants internet and email > >access along with VMS access ... you can run all of your apps: >on VMS ... Word11 for word processing, 20/20 or lotus for  >spreadsheets, Goldfax, Yahmail   J Are you serious about Word-11?  (And for that matter, about 20/20 or 1-2-3L for spreadsheets?)  For the halfway-to-desktop-publishing uses people expectE from word-processing programs now, Word-11 basically sucks.  When the I alternative was Wang-style dedicated word processors, Word-11 was a great  option, but now ...   ; We still support it because we have scientific staff who've O been here for twenty years and who've got papers written in it (greek character L support was a big deal), but almost all the clerical staff who understand itD have left, and the new ones who come in aren't inclined to learn it.  M Given the option, most people will use Word. And the ones who hate GUIs would  sooner use TeX than Word-11.  J Similarly, the VMS version of 1-2-3 is feature-compatible with 1-2-3 v. 1.K Excel does more for you, is easier to use, has better ability to integrate  L with other data sources *and is what people come to you knowing how to use*.    >... the list goes on and on ...: >we have very few windoze clients ... with VMS no need for >that virus trap garbage ...  D If your company is in a position to mandate that people use obsoleteN applications they don't like and that take longer to get good-looking work outO of, in exchange  for better security, then bully for you.  That's not how it is L for us, and  I doubt that's how it is for anybody anywhere you don't have to have a clearance to work.    -- Alan  --  O =============================================================================== 0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056 M  Paper mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 99, 2575 Sand Hill Rd, Menlo Park CA   94025 O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:34:34 GMT   From: CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net>M Subject: Re: Professional Agitator - Harrison, Andrew. Confimed on sun.com!!! * Message-ID: <404BB1C1.2000706@prodigy.net>   GreyCloud wrote:   > Jack Peacock wrote:  > 2 >> "GreyCloud" <mist@Cumulus.com> wrote in message4 >> news:XUm2c.726$Wc4.1392@bcandid.telisphere.com... >>L >>> Well, it is rather obvious that a Sun rep. would troll a VMS news group.K >>> By injecting biased comments into a vms newsgroup he can show potentialrJ >>> customers that are thinking of OpenVMS as a solution to look into thisF >>> newsgroup for the various problems that crop up.  But then one canK >>> always go into a Solaris newsgroup and find that they too have many and  >>> various problems.  >>>o >>L >> First, it's not very likely any future VMS customers (for argument's sakeJ >> we'll assume they exist though this is based on facts not in evidence)  >> willsD >> be hanging out in the VMS newsgroup in order to evaluate systems. >>H >> Second, everyone who expresses an opinion is biased, so what?  I findL >> Andrew's comments to be relevant and useful.  Not that I'd ever buy a SunJ >> Sparc system, but I do respect Sun for seeing the future and moving to  >> AMD.sL >> If we also assume Itanium (again, for argument's sake only) will flourishL >> then it will be facing real competiton from Sun AMD64 servers, so a voice& >> from the opposition is appropriate. >>H >> If all we had on this newsgroup were the "blind to the outside world"E >> postings of the most loyal VMS followers it would be a dull place.u >>    Jack Peacock >> >>8 > It's still obvious that he is trolling for Suns' sake. > D Even if true, why is that a concern?  If you don't want to read whatE he says, then don't.  I think he makes a lot of good points.  He just.B may be doing you a favor, if you'd only recognize it; surely there7 are (potential) customers out there thinking similarly.    --  D The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt toC minimize spam.  Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.v   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 08:26:03 +0100  From: "Dr. Dweeb" <dr@dweeb.com>? Subject: Re: The Inquirer:   HP re-thinking its IA-64 strategy?	- Message-ID: <c2eiqb$1t25$1@news.cybercity.dk>    JF Mezei wrote:3 > Bill Todd wrote:A >> Alphacide.  After nearly three additional years of market- and D >> mind-share losses (due both to the Alphacide itself and continuedG >> lack of enthusiasm for the Digital products by its owners), it's far0  >> less likely to be true today. > A > However, consider that HP, should it decide to adopt Alpha nextWF > monday, would have a couple of years to work on Alpha before all itsG > products would run on it. And while you think EV8 is a holy grail, HPtE > could probably produce one or two more shrinks to bump the speed upcG > until Alpha is back on track. And you can bet that there would not beIB > any sticks in Alpha engineers's wheels and they'd have the right > budgets to get the job done. >nB >  Despite being very late and purposefully slowed down, EV7 stillF > packed quite a punch. Imagine what they could do to the architectureC > if the engineers were given carte blanche and the right budgets ?  >nE >> I doubt that there's any way now for HP to escape the fate that it ) >> has so assiduously crafted for itself:c >tG > We can arguem about Carly's hairstyles, but she seems to be very good-@ > at convincing the press and the wall street casino analysts. ID > suspect she would have no problem finding a face saving way out of > the current situation. >r@ > As long as PARISC and Alpha still have some punch, there is noC > urgency since customers will avoid IA64 like the plague. There isiF > however a window of opportunity where NSK and VMS could be widthheldG > from commercial release on IA64, avoiding support issues for 5 years.: >:- >> the best it can likely do is slow the rateDC >> of descent to a point where it might achieve a soft landing as asC >> shadow of its former (composite) self rather than have to seek au >> buyer as Compaq did > C > I am not so sure. HP could ride IA64 for a few years, or it couldtC > ride PARISC and Alpha for a couple of years. To me, admitting thet- > IA64 mistake would raise my respect for HP.t > F > The problem with HP is that the Alpha murder has compromised its ownF > credibility when it says that IA64 is safe and has a 3 year roadmap.= > (heck, didn't Alpha have something like a 7 year roadmap ?)l  J Carley could just claim it was a CompaQ thing to get rid of Alpha and thatG it was a price HP paid for the rest, not their choice.  She could claim-1 anything and most of the press would believe her.1  
 Dr. Dweeb.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:01:55 GMT:6 From: Jeffrey Coffield <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com>P Subject: Re: Two problems: qui$ external and procedure division using (external)= Message-ID: <7wu2c.34969$UC.32364@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>   # tutor_removespam_@cfl.rr.com wrote:oE > Two problems: qui$ external and procedure division using (external)  > 5 > Email your answer to    tutor AT cfl DOT rr DOT come > Thank you. >  > ) > =======================================w > HELP ! > / > The old vax computer allowed almost anything.e@ > The new alpha computer stops at almost every little detail (or > oversite of the vax?). > C > Do you have a solution or explanation for the following problems:k > ? > 1) Procedure division can no longer use an external variable.o >    (implicitly defined). >  >        LINKAGE SECTION.g > ) >        COPY "COM$CPY:FUNCTION-INFO-SP".n >  > 0 >        PROCEDURE DIVISION USING FUNCTION-INFO. >  >        P0000-MAINLINE. > ( >            CALL "LIB$GET_SYMBOL" USING2 >                BY DESCRIPTOR "LSS_COMPANY_CODE",1 >                BY DESCRIPTOR FNCI-COMPANY-CODE,e >                OMITTED,  >                OMITTED,e" >                GIVING WS-STATUS. > F > 2) qui$_display_form (etc) can not be external defined within Cobol. > ' >    Do not understand this one at all.tF >    What is the error and what change was made, and more importantly, > how do we correct it?  > 6 > 01  QUI$_DISPLAY_FORM           PIC 9(09) COMP VALUE9 >                             EXTERNAL QUI$_DISPLAY_FORM. 6 > 01  QUI$_QUEUE_DESCRIPTION      PIC 9(09) COMP VALUE> >                             EXTERNAL QUI$_QUEUE_DESCRIPTION.  D I looked at some of our Cobol programs and whenever we reference an   external long the pic is "S9(9)"  
 Jeff CoffieldI   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:54:31 -07006 From: "Phillip D. Williams" <dwilliams296@comcast.net>* Subject: Re: VMS  5.5 and layered products0 Message-ID: <vLudnbg8DuqdydbdRVn-hA@comcast.com>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C4042A.31D92B30  Content-Type: text/plain;e 	charset="iso-8859-1"f+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printables  	 Greetings B Later today 4/7/04 I will make available the entire September 1992? cdl cds. The account is still VAXVMS but no password is needed. 9 The first cd is $57$dka300:[000000] and each cd is in the ; directory $57$dka300:[cdrom_number_1 thru 7]. You will need I to copy the listings from $57$dka300:[cdrom]. The old directory will be = ? deleted once everything is working on the new device/directory.O/ If you have problems/concerns please e-mail me.U Enjoy  phillipt  # Still looking for a DECsystem 5500.t  9 "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> wrote in message = 4 news:c2d0cq$1r65l9$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de... > Same username? >=20E > "Phillip D. Williams" <dwilliams296@comcast.net> schreef in berichta, > news:ytydnfyVmY8IkNTdRVn-tA@comcast.com...	 > > HellorA > > I changed the account to where you no longer need a password.n > > phillipw; > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl> wrote in message 8 > > news:c2agje$1q27bv$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de... > > >nC > > > "Phillip D. Williams" <dwilliams296@comcast.net> schreef in =7 bericht 0 > > > news:hIidnbPmrpNZEtrd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
 > > > > HellolB > > > > Sometime ago I made 5.5 and some of its layered products =
 available.
 > > UnlessA > > > > there is a out-cry to keep it, I am going to delete the =  directoriest > > > > Sunday night.o > > > > phillipo > > > > ftp 68.35.167.136e > > > > username vaxvmsr > > > > password vaxvmsp > > > >i > > > >p
 > > > Phillipe > > > F > > > I want to download the UCX h-kit. Unfortunately the usercode / = password( > > > combination is no longer accepted." > > > Does that mean I'm too late? > > >-
 > > > Hans > > >  > > >  > >7 > >2 >=20 > + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C4042A.31D92B30E Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1")+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =l charset=3Diso-8859-1">9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>L <STYLE></STYLE>c </HEAD>b <BODY>7 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings</FONT></DIV>dA <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later today 4/7/04 I will make =t available the entire=20I September 1992</FONT></DIV>?G <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cdl cds. The account is still <FONT=20oD color=3D#ff0000><STRONG>VAXVMS</STRONG></FONT> but no password is=20 needed.</FONT></DIV>9 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The first cd is <FONT=20nI color=3D#000080><STRONG>$57$dka300:[000000]</STRONG></FONT> and each cd =w is in=20 the</FONT></DIV>3 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>directory <FONT=20r< color=3D#000080><STRONG><U>$57$dka300:[cdrom_number_1 thru = 7].</U></STRONG></FONT>=20 You will need</FONT></DIV>J <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to copy the listings from <STRONG><FONT =  D color=3D#000080><U>$57$dka300:[cdrom]</U></FONT></STRONG>. The old = directory will=20C2 be deleted once everything is working on the new = device/directory.</FONT></DIV>G <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have problems/concerns please =T	 e-mail=20y me.</FONT></DIV>3 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Enjoy</FONT></DIV>,5 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>phillip</FONT></DIV> 4 <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>@ <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still looking for a DECsystem = 5500.</FONT></DIV>< <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Hans Vlems" &lt;</FONT><A=20= href=3D"mailto:hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl"><FONT face=3DArial=20 ? size=3D2>hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =  size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20w message </FONT><A =tC href=3D"news:c2d0cq$1r65l9$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de"><FONT=20> face=3DArial=20tJ size=3D2>news:c2d0cq$1r65l9$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de</FONT></A><FON= T=20H face=3DArial size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; = Same=20oA username?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; "Phillip D. Williams" &lt;</FONT><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:dwilliams296@comcast.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20@ size=3D2>dwilliams296@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt; schreef=20 in bericht<BR>&gt; </FONT><A=20 F href=3D"news:ytydnfyVmY8IkNTdRVn-tA@comcast.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20B size=3D2>news:ytydnfyVmY8IkNTdRVn-tA@comcast.com</FONT></A><FONT = face=3DArial=20tG size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; &gt; Hello<BR>&gt; &gt; I changed the account to =  where you no=20cI longer need a password.<BR>&gt; &gt; phillip<BR>&gt; &gt; "Hans Vlems"=20eJ &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl"><FONT face=3DArial =  ? size=3D2>hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =  size=3D2>&gt; wrote in=20n! message<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A=20rB href=3D"news:c2agje$1q27bv$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de"><FONT = face=3DArial=20,J size=3D2>news:c2agje$1q27bv$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de</FONT></A><FON= T=20H face=3DArial size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "Phillip = D. Williams"=20c> &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:dwilliams296@comcast.net"><FONT = face=3DArial=20p@ size=3D2>dwilliams296@comcast.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>&gt; schreef=20) in bericht<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; </FONT><A=20pF href=3D"news:hIidnbPmrpNZEtrd4p2dnA@comcast.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20B size=3D2>news:hIidnbPmrpNZEtrd4p2dnA@comcast.com</FONT></A><FONT = face=3DArial=20hB size=3D2>...<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hello<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; = Sometime ago I=20CC made 5.5 and some of its layered products available.<BR>&gt; &gt; =  Unless<BR>&gt;=20QI &gt; &gt; &gt; there is a out-cry to keep it, I am going to delete the=20aJ directories<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sunday night.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=20I phillip<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ftp 68.35.167.136<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; =0 username=20eA vaxvms<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; password vaxvms<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =- &gt;<BR>&gt;=20-I &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Phillip<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =y	 &gt; I=20m> want to download the UCX h-kit. Unfortunately the usercode / = password<BR>&gt;=20EJ &gt; &gt; combination is no longer accepted.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Does that = mean=20 E I'm too late?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hans<BR>&gt; &gt; =a &gt;<BR>&gt;=20A6 &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; = </FONT></BODY></HTML>   - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C4042A.31D92B30--a   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 00:38:50 -05009 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <jgemignanino@adelphiano.net>S$ Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4] More rants1 Message-ID: <CMGdnRqzr4n2KNfd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>w  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in messagee" news:40481C5E.2008A4A@istop.com..." > Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:@ > > I'm very glad to now know more members of TCPIP engineering.J > > Welcome to the wonderful world of USENET as well (I hope you stay here longer)0& > > Do you have summer or winter now ? >o6 > No, that is not the question to ask Mr Rappaport.... >.2 > It is:  "Do you go surfing during lunch break ?"K > or      "Do you write TCPIP code while sipping a drink by  a pool on youro
 WiFi laptop?" H > or    "Are you emprisoned in a former Digital building with Sue making sure > you do your work?" >i > :-) :-) :-) :-)t  G Actually, you should ask Robert if he has a cell phone, cable TV or aird conditioning in his car.; He spends a lot of time around pools, but without a laptop.=   -Johnh  K PS. If SDA could resolve crash dumps with a single command, Robert would ben
 out of a job.DH PPS. While working by the pool the only thing that I drank was iced tea. That didn't sound right.   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:31:23 -0800p. From: alexdaniels@themail.co.uk (Alex Daniels)$ Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4] More rants= Message-ID: <9f7f13a8.0403071831.5e706dad@posting.google.com>e  u "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com> wrote in message news:<rgN2c.92129$Wa.72177@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...VL > Please submit a problem report on that.  Of course, a lot more detail willK > be needed.  Future versions of TCP/IP will only have the scalable kernel.s >  > Matt.) > --  ? > -------------------------------------------------------------e > OpenVMS TCP/IP Engineering > Enterprise Computing Group > Hewlett-Packard Companys > Gold Coast, AUSTRALIAt? > -------------------------------------------------------------I >  > = > "Jack Trachtman" <Jack.Trachtman@vmmc.org> wrote in messagep8 > news:69d784c4.0403061659.8b5b4ec@posting.google.com...I > > We run BMC PATROL here and just discovered that the VMS agent doesn'taG > > work with the Scalable Kernal. (Today I got a chance to reboot withoG > > the SK disabled and the PATROL agent started and connected with the- > > PATROL server.)a    F Having done the V5.4 update seminar, I was quite impresed with the newD kernel, even telling people how good it would be on SMP boxes now it isn't taking out spinlocks etc.o  D Then I discovered DECEvent SICL call logging doesn't work with it, I+ go back to 5.4 old kernel and it does work.   F I did log a PTR on that and sent HP my tcpdumps and code so they couldC reproduce it, which they did. Havnt heard a thing back apart from amB hacked workaround I don't want to use and even if a workaround forC this was ok, I still would not have confidence as they haven't evenn@ identified the problem and by chance came across the workaround.  ; Also as per a previous post I made in another thread System > Healthcheck keeps bleating on at me, that PERF=ALL is defined.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.134 ************************ all theL intellectual property and employees of VMS Inc, but none of its liabilities.  I Note that this is how American Airlines structured its "purchase" of TWA.    ------------------------