1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 12 Mar 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 142       Contents:; Re: 'ITRC Digest is on the move' -- Subscriber's Choice ... ; Re: 'ITRC Digest is on the move' -- Subscriber's Choice ...  Re: mailbox @ Postion available Baltimore Maryland OpenVMS/Windows 2000 (2003)- Re: Remote host identification: Telnet vs SSH   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:44:42 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> D Subject: Re: 'ITRC Digest is on the move' -- Subscriber's Choice ...: Message-ID: <c2s9lv$18fe4q$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  / On 2004-03-11 14:43, "George Pagliarulo" wrote:   H >     The Subscriber's Choice patch notifications do have some problems.K > I've been communicating with the folks responsible for the process and am K > trying to get some changes made.  But, as Warren diplomatically said in a L > reply about the HP VMS web site, it's a corporate requirement.  We weren't?                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   F It is a "corporate requirement" to make support pages unusable for theH OS targeted?? (Or unusable for other browsers than the beloved "Internet Exploder".)   L > asked.  Something that would really help is for users to let HP know aboutF                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^J > the problems.  Reactions from real users carry a lot more weight then meJ > saying how users are going to react.  One thing worth noting is that theN > patch notification process is separate from the ITRC. The ITRC site feeds it$ > but does not control how it works.  D Some time ago a PDF version of an OpenVMS document (V7.3-2) has beenF corrupted on the HP web site. I'd complained of course via mail to theD "contact" (openvmsdoc@hp) -- no reaction, no fix, for several weeks.D After I'd posted to this group, i.e. made the problem public, it gotD fixed within two or three days. "To let HP know" simply didn't work.  H > While the issues are being worked, openvms.org ( www.openvms.org ) hasN > started a user distribution list that you can sign up for.  When an OS patchF > is released, openvms.org will send a plain text email with the patch* > document attached, to users on the list.   Thanks for the pointer.    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:27:15 +0100 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> D Subject: Re: 'ITRC Digest is on the move' -- Subscriber's Choice ...: Message-ID: <c2s9m0$18fe4q$2@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>  F On 2004-03-12 00:25, "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" wrote:  @ > Feel free to distribute this response up the chain of command. > I > Notifying users---customers---about new patches is something a) valued  I > by customers, b) trivial to do and c) important to HP (otherwise, bugs  G > are active longer, which is bad for all involved).  It is really sad  I > that a third-party site has to step in to do something which HP should   > be doing for its customers.  >  > [...]  > I > I really appreciate the efforts of the engineers involved, as I'm sure  K > many others here do.  Maybe they can figure out a way to politely say to  K > the higher-ups "wouldn't you like to be as loved and respected by a very  # > discerning group as we are?"  :-)   G Fully agreed. Somehow I get the impression HP's _management's_ attitude 2 of handling customers is "Buy and pay. That's it."   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Mar 2004 09:32:51 -08001 From: usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer)  Subject: Re: mailbox= Message-ID: <477e0934.0403120932.4aeff8fd@posting.google.com>   c lewis@spyder.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) wrote in message news:<c2kr87$33n$1@newslocal.mitre.org>... N > It's the stream-to-mailbox interface which is changing the newlines to flushM > commands.  If you pass the mailbox to lib$spawn, or open it as a FILE in C, M > you're going to be using it as a byte stream device, which it really isn't.  >     B I continue to struggle with this problem.  I have tried mailboxes,E pseudo-terminals, sockets and c-style pipes.  All have their own sets  of problems.  F I finally decided to try out the VMS pipe command and see if it works.A  My test was to pipe the output of a binary-producing progam to a F file, then check the file to see if it has the exact raw binary data.  It did!   D So, I cracked open the source code to pipe, and discovered that they> assign to a device called "mpa0".  I did the same thing, usingD lib$spawn to "pipe" the output of the spawned subprocess back to me.  E All of the binary data comes back, unmodified, EXCEPT char(10), which > is stripped.  The DCL command "pipe" does not suffer from thisF problem.  I have tried to figure out what parameter I might be settingF wrong when I call assign, but we both appear to be doing the identical thing.  F Does anyone have any idea how DCL$PIPE is able to pipe raw binary dataF from the subprocess back to the master process, unscathed, and how one can do the same in C?    thanks  
 joshua lehrer  factset research systems NYSE:FDS   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:00 -0500 " From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>I Subject: Postion available Baltimore Maryland OpenVMS/Windows 2000 (2003) - Message-ID: <c2svcj$p40@library2.airnews.net>   B     Looking for an experienced Windows 2000 (2003) admin, heavy onI AD/Exchange/Scripting etc.... OpenVMS skills will leverage you over other E candidates without OpenVMS. Yes, we actually want an OpenVMS guy.  If C interested, send me a note/resume what-have-you. Look at our add on ' www.careerbuilder.com , keyword TESSCO.    Hal Kuff kuff at tessco dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:30:40 -0800 3 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> 6 Subject: Re: Remote host identification: Telnet vs SSH. Message-ID: <405201D0.9090902@Flying-Disk.com>   Martin Vorlaender wrote: > Alan Frisbie wrote:  >  >>Bob Koehler wrote:  9 >>> Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> writes:   C >>>> In the third case (FTA43:), the user is connected via SSH, but > >>>> there is no indication of where the connection came from.  H >>>   You need a better IP stack.  Multinet, for example, provides this:  D >>Darn, just when I was getting comfortable with it.   How difficult >>is it to switch?  E > Not very difficult. There's a product called "SSH for OpenVMS" that D > effectively is the MultiNet SSH implementation for use with TCP/IP5 > Services. See http://www.process.com/tcpip/ssh.html  > ? > You should even be able to re-use your config files and keys.   > Cool, it looks like it is worth checking out.   Unfortunately,? I couldn't find any pricing information on their web site.   Do   you have any idea what it costs?   Alan   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.142 ************************