1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 13 Mar 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 143       Contents: Re: Athlon 64 vs Opteron: diff? 3 Re: Finding my local authorized HP Business Partner  Hang Time: 15 minutes  Re: Toys R Us and VMS ?  Re: VAX OpenVMS CDROM ISO   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:26:33 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>( Subject: Re: Athlon 64 vs Opteron: diff?2 Message-ID: <c2ti23$dfp$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Didier Morandi wrote: K > Could someone please share some light on the differences between the AMD  ' > Athlon-64 and the Opteron processors?  > 	 > Thanks,  >  > D.  H http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118,00.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:22:20 -0500 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> < Subject: Re: Finding my local authorized HP Business Partner0 Message-ID: <1054l2019g4d081@news.supernews.com>  H Well, we bend over backwards for customers, but maybe that's not enough.: How about emailing your requirements to sales@islandco.com  
 It can't hurt    David    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402 , Email (SPAMproofed) dbturner@islandco.nospam (replace nospam with .com)    . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in messageB news:Vrp4c.19297$iDG1.8631@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... > 7 > "Brian Tillman" <Tillmabg@yahoo.com> wrote in message # > news:012D0CBD.C22236@yahoo.com... I > > I'm perusing HP's page http://h71000.www7.hp.com/swcat/us/cssmov.html  > using L > > Mozilla 1.5 running on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 looking for Save Set ManagerH > > order information.  That page lists prices and UPIs for what I want.F > > However, I don't know how to contact my "local authorized Business > Partner." G > > Well, the above page says at the bottom (just before some incorrect F > > javascript that displays as text instead of being interpreted, but that'sJ > > another issue): "For further information on how to order this product,L > > please contact your local authorised HP Business Partner. Click here forJ > > more information if you don't have a local contact."  The "Click Here" is > a K > > link that points to http://wecome.hp.com/country/us/eng/contact_us.html  . $ > > So, I click that link and I get: > > F > > "welcome.hp.com could not be found.  Please check the name and try again."  > > J > > I try the same thing with IE6 and get "The page you are looking for isJ > > currently unavailable."  (The javascript doesn't show up as text here, so > itI > > must have been written by someone whose world is so small s/he thinks  IE6  > isL > > the only browser that exists.)  Doesn't HP vet their own pages?  How can I H > > locate my "local authorized Business Partner" when the only means HP gives K > > me DOESN'T WORK!  I guess HP doesn't want my business.  Doh!  Of course  > they
 > > don't. > 6 > Whaddaya expect - a change of a 10-year old policy?? >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:06:11 GMT & From: Don Sykes <paladin@mydomain.com> Subject: Hang Time: 15 minutes< Message-ID: <78t4c.9471$Qx2.6534@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>  F My customer (a Police 911 dispatch center) experienced an odd hang of F their cluster a few days ago. For about 15 minutes no one was able to I get a response on any of their terminals. Then, without any known event,  : the situation cleared itself up. Neither system went down.H I looked in all the application and system log files, I could think of, F but didn't see anything unusual. This is a 2 node, Alpha cluster (DEC H 7000; VMS Ver.V6.2) with 2, redundant HSJ disk controllers and mirrored  disks.B During that time one person was able to log on, but then could do : nothing else. Everyone else was just hung on both systems.D The only thing I could think of, that might hang a cluster and then E resolve itself like that, is a cluster state transition. But I'm not  I much of a sys admin, so I wonder, does that sound like a possibility, or  ! should we suspect something else?   E BTW: This cluster and apps have been running 24/7 for over 10 years.  C We've had a few system crashes that *may* have been caused by some  F Peek&Spyware, but everything has always come right back up (of course # it's VMS:) Last reboot was in Sept.    TIA  --     Have VMS, Will Travel  Wire paladin, San Francisco    (paladinATalphaseDOTcom)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:25:36 GMT & From: Lee Mah <lytmah@telusplanet.net>  Subject: Re: Toys R Us and VMS ?+ Message-ID: <4ys4c.80240$Ff2.5502@clgrps12>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0804000700030108030008009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   D I saw an ad on cable this morning referring to 'Toys R Us" as an HP 	 customer. - Nothing on what hardware was involved though.    JF Mezei wrote:    >mist dragon wrote:  >    > E >>I believe HP is afraid of updating the figure and it may as well be  >>40K now than 400K. >>     >> > O >And it is in everyone's interest, except that of Andrew that HP NOT update the K >count. As long as nobody challenges the now inflated value, then HP should ) >continue to use it as much as possible.   > O >And if there are still 400k licenses in the database, then HP isn't lying. The ? >bigger HP can portray the user base, the better it is for VMS.  >    >   & --------------080400070003010803000800) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">  <html> <head>I   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">    <title></title>  </head> ' <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> C I saw an ad on cable this morning referring to 'Toys R Us" as an HP 
 customer.<br> 1 Nothing on what hardware was involved though.<br>  <br> JF Mezei wrote:<br> > <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid405157FB.3826F8DF@istop.com">!   <pre wrap="">mist dragon wrote:    </pre>   <blockquote type="cite">T     <pre wrap="">I believe HP is afraid of updating the figure and it may as well be 40K now than 400K.
     </pre>   </blockquote>    <pre wrap=""><!---->N And it is in everyone's interest, except that of Andrew that HP NOT update theJ count. As long as nobody challenges the now inflated value, then HP should( continue to use it as much as possible.   N And if there are still 400k licenses in the database, then HP isn't lying. The> bigger HP can portray the user base, the better it is for VMS.   </pre>
 </blockquote>  </body>  </html>   ( --------------080400070003010803000800--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:19:58 +0100 , From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.dotweg@zonnet.nl>" Subject: Re: VAX OpenVMS CDROM ISO: Message-ID: <c2t2gn$21mld7$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>  = "jealous xmp" <jealousxmp@aol.commonplace> schreef in bericht 4 news:20040312092156.15038.00001143@mb-m18.aol.com...F > >> Would a VAX really boot from an ISO formatted CD-ROM? I doubt it.E > >> What Ronnie really needs is (an ISO formatted CD-ROM containing) E > >> the image of the VMS OS CD in a container file. Of course, using F > >> the hobbyist CD and some CD burning program, he can make his own. > >>F > >Martin, good point: he does indeed need a .DSK image of the VAX/VMSL > >distribution cd. In fact he probably might want a stand alone backup disk asI > >well; I'm not able to remember whether the standard cd-rom will boot a  VAX 
 > >or not.... G > >Anyway: the bzip2 compressed version of the 7.3 kit is available for " > >download. Email me for details. > >  > >hans at zonnet dot nl > L > Obviously making an image with "mkisofs" is out since it can't be mounted. I L > wonder if "dd" could be used for making raw image.  And I haven't seen anyI > support in linux kernel (or windows) for ODS, but perhaps there is some  patch K > available.  AFAIK, linux (or windows) can still work with the image, just  not  > mount the filesystem.  > L > At least this was the case with BFS image (BeFS / BeOS) when I was burning > that.  > 	 > Michael   J I use a tool from the CHARON folks. It is written in MACRO32 and assemblesK under VAX/VMS or compiles under AXP/VMS. It takes a directory tree as input L and builds a DSK file that is understood by CHARON and SIMH. Use [000000...]@ of a disk (or CDROM) and the utility produces a fine disk image.H There is an ODS2 utility for windows, it is available from Hunter Goatly   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.143 ************************