1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 19 Mar 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 154       Contents:+ Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV + Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV + Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV & RE: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump& Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump& Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump& Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump Re: CSR mapping  Re: CSR mapping  Re: CSR mapping  DECwindows: BDF vs PCF5 Re: Hit counter for Apache like #Accesses SSI in OSU? 3 Re: How do I tell if my Alpha is a L1 or L2 router? 3 Re: How do I tell if my Alpha is a L1 or L2 router? 9 Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour 9 Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour 9 Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour $ Re: Message-ID ??? How to replicate?/ Re: perhaps on-topic: Google can't find a page! / Re: perhaps on-topic: Google can't find a page! # Re: Postal mail sorting application # Re: Postal mail sorting application  Re: Toys R Us and VMS ?  Re: Toys R Us and VMS ? 3 Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-200 3 Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-200 3 Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-200  Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances  Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances  Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances ) [Simh] Newbie has network compile problem - Re: [Simh] Newbie has network compile problem   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:54:59 +0100 & From: Bernard Giroud <bgiroud@free.fr>4 Subject: Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV' Message-ID: <405A0CA3.4566AD57@free.fr>    Martin Vorlaender a crit :    > Ruslan R. Laishev wrote: > > Martin Vorlaender wrote: > >> Ruslan R. Laishev wrote:  > >>>>K > http://www.oooovms.dyndns.org/gnv/flex/GNV-AXPVMS-FLEX-V0205-4-1_PCSI.ZIP # > >>>> Portion done: 0%...30%...50%  > >>> # > >>> %PCSI-E-OPENIN, error opening E > >>> DISK$OVMSAXP:[SYS2.SYSCOMMON.][GNV.USR.LOCAL.BIN]FLEX^+^+.;* as  > >>> input 5 > >>> -RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed 1 > >>> -SYSTEM-W-BADFILENAME, bad file name syntax ( > >>> %PCSI-E-OPFAILED, operation failedE > >>> Terminating is strongly recommended.  Do you want to terminate?  > >>> [YES]  > >>1 > >> Does DISK$OVMSAXP: have an ODS-5 filesystem?  > > No, of course. > > 2 > >> Did you $ SET PROCESS /PARSE_STYLE=EXTENDED ? > > No.  > ? > Then you're out of luck, I'd suppose. That's what I think the 3 > "...for GNV" in the announcement really is about.  >   
 Very true.   >  > cu, 
 >   Martin > --B >   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules!5 >    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de H >    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/< >    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   -- Bernard Giroud! Open Source COBOL Tools Developer    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:12:10 +0100 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>4 Subject: Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV. Message-ID: <c3dvfc$1pvc$1@biggoron.nerim.net>   Bernard Giroud wrote:   1 >>>>Did you $ SET PROCESS /PARSE_STYLE=EXTENDED ?  >>>  >>>No. >>? >>Then you're out of luck, I'd suppose. That's what I think the 3 >>"...for GNV" in the announcement really is about.  >> >  >  > Very true.  O These stupid non standard characters in filenames are stupid and not standard.  O Why do you introduce them? To better see VMS killed because it does not handle   them by default?  
 D. (fch) --  2 VAXUS - Your new helpful friend in the DEC Family!2 EHQ: 19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France/       Phone: +336 7983 6418 Fax: +335 6154 1928 $                 http://www.vaxus.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 09:26:13 +0300 : From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev{at}DeltaTelecom{dot}RU>4 Subject: Re: ANN: bison 1.35 and flex 2.5.4a for GNV3 Message-ID: <2B58379C28E0CE615300AF5F29DB9741@nntp>    Hi !   Bernard Giroud wrote:  > Martin Vorlaender a crit :  >  >  >>Ruslan R. Laishev wrote: >> >>>Martin Vorlaender wrote:  >>>  >>>>Ruslan R. Laishev wrote: >>>>K >>http://www.oooovms.dyndns.org/gnv/flex/GNV-AXPVMS-FLEX-V0205-4-1_PCSI.ZIP  >>" >>>>>>Portion done: 0%...30%...50% >>>>> " >>>>>%PCSI-E-OPENIN, error openingD >>>>>DISK$OVMSAXP:[SYS2.SYSCOMMON.][GNV.USR.LOCAL.BIN]FLEX^+^+.;* as
 >>>>>input4 >>>>>-RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed0 >>>>>-SYSTEM-W-BADFILENAME, bad file name syntax' >>>>>%PCSI-E-OPFAILED, operation failed D >>>>>Terminating is strongly recommended.  Do you want to terminate?
 >>>>>[YES] >>>>0 >>>>Does DISK$OVMSAXP: have an ODS-5 filesystem? >>>  >>>No, of course.  >>>  >>> 1 >>>>Did you $ SET PROCESS /PARSE_STYLE=EXTENDED ?  >>>  >>>No. >>? >>Then you're out of luck, I'd suppose. That's what I think the 3 >>"...for GNV" in the announcement really is about.  >> >  >  > Very true.F 	Bernard, do you think that I'll convert ODS especialy for using FLEX?   --   Cheers, Ruslan. D +---------------------pure personal opinion------------------------+C   RADIUS Server for OpenVMS project - www.starlet.spb.ru/radiusvms/ @   TKD (WTF) in Russia, St.-Petersburg - www.TaeKwonDo-WTF.SPb.RU   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:46:45 -0600 / From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> / Subject: RE: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump T Message-ID: <92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC135E41C0@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  K Believe it or not the Alphas have a console command to initiate a crash and 9 write a dump.  At the console command prompt enter: crash    EdE **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**      > -----Original Message-----% > From: dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com  ( > [mailto:dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com] ) > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:30 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com - > Subject: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump  >  > C > In the past month, I have had two occasions when my (2-node ES40, G > OVMS731)cluster has hung.     All of the symptoms point to a probable A > Quorum Hang, (quite possible since I don't have a Quorum Disk), H > however there are some indications that this might not be the case.   , > (Note: VOTES = 1 each, EXPECTED_VOTES = 1) > 9 > 1.    Neither node crashed.  (so no quorum loss there). H > 2.    The cluster uses two fully independent GB ethernet interconnectsB > (switches), which are private and do not connect to the network.F > 3.    My other cluster, (which uses the same interconnect (i.e. same/ > pair of switches) was unaffected by the hang. H > 4.    On examination, (i.e. after driving in from home to take care ofE > the problem), all link lights are green on the GB Switches.    This F > would seem to rule out the interconnects as the source of any quorumB > loss.    And even if they did somehow, simultaneously lose their= > connection and cause a loss of quorum, would quorum not be  7 > restored when the interconnect links reestablished???  > C >       I would really appreciate any comments/suggestions here.    < > (Please dont start berating me about the lack of a Quorum @ > Disk unless you think it would have avoided this problem, and  > can explain why).  > E >      On a second, equally important issue.    In order to break the > > hang I had to HALT the nodes (one at a time with Cntrl/P).  = > (Comment:: Again, with the votes set as above, this should  : > have released the hang on the other node,  it didn't!!). > @ >      Because the nodes were HALTed, they didn't automatically > > generate a Crash Dump, so I dont have any thing to diagnose ? > with (Error Log contains no indications of problems, neither   > does Operator.log).  > @ >      The crash dump file SYSDUMP.DMP is set up off the system : > disk, on an internal drive, (and is correctly set up in # > sysgen and at the console level).  > E > HOW CAN I FORCE A DUMP AFTER I AM AT THE "P00>>" CONSOLE PROMPT ???  > < >      I am sure that I remember being told that there is a : > command that can  be entered at the "P00>>" prompt that  > forces a dump of theG > Registers.    I would really appreciate it if anyone can give me this G > information.     This is probably more important to me than the cause @ > of the hang since, at the moment, I have nowhere to go except ? > to endlessly analyse the symptoms in my head, (this leads to   > insanity, ultimately). > @ >      The only other information I can think of which might be ? > useful is to mention that I am running the Cerner Millennium  , > Clinical Application, with Oracle 8.1.7.4. >  > Thanks >  > Dave.  >    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Mar 2004 14:28:17 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) / Subject: Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0403181428.50250a66@posting.google.com>   u dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com (Dave Baxter) wrote in message news:<a3c44af1.0403180929.2b8dac62@posting.google.com>... C > In the past month, I have had two occasions when my (2-node ES40, G > OVMS731)cluster has hung.     All of the symptoms point to a probable A > Quorum Hang, (quite possible since I don't have a Quorum Disk), H > however there are some indications that this might not be the case.   , > (Note: VOTES = 1 each, EXPECTED_VOTES = 1)  C EXPECTED_VOTES should always be set to the total of all VOTES (plus @ QDSKVOTES if present) in the cluster. Once both nodes are up andF running, the cluster-wide value of Expected_Votes is ratcheted up to 2C anyway, so you might as well set it properly to begin with. (If you B ever have to boot one node alone, boot it conversationally and setF EXPECTED_VOTES to 1 at the SYSBOOT prompt, and set WRITESYSPARAMS to 09 at the same time so the change doesn't become permanent.)   9 > 1.    Neither node crashed.  (so no quorum loss there).   2 Do you have access to console terminal log output?  < If not, there might be some clues in the OPERATOR.LOG files.  H > 2.    The cluster uses two fully independent GB ethernet interconnectsB > (switches), which are private and do not connect to the network.   Nice!   C But on second thought, with only 2 nodes in this cluster, a pair of F cross-over cables would work as well, have slightly lower latency (140> microseconds vs. 200 microseconds in my tests), and completely5 eliminate the switch as a potential point of failure.   F > 3.    My other cluster, (which uses the same interconnect (i.e. same/ > pair of switches) was unaffected by the hang.   B I'd recommend setting up LAVC$FAILURE_ANALYSIS. This will generateB OPCOM messages if any parts of the LAN or a LAN adapter fails (andC also indicate when it is repaired). The EDIT_LAVC.COM tool from the A [KP_CLUSTERTOOLS] directory of the V6 Freeware CD will do all the ) heavy lifting for you in setting this up.   H > 4.    On examination, (i.e. after driving in from home to take care ofE > the problem), all link lights are green on the GB Switches.    This F > would seem to rule out the interconnects as the source of any quorumB > loss.    And even if they did somehow, simultaneously lose theirE > connection and cause a loss of quorum, would quorum not be restored . > when the interconnect links reestablished???  A And with regard to having to drive in from home, it would be well A worth setting up ConsoleWorks or Unicenter Console Management for E OpenVMS so you could see the consoles and reboot systems if necessary 	 remotely.   @ If communications between the two systems was lost for less thanE RECNXINTERVAL seconds, they would continue on afterward as if nothing 
 had happened.   @ If communications between the two systems was lost for more thanF RECNXINTERVAL seconds and then restored, one of the two systems shouldF crash with a CLUEXIT bugcheck. The remaining system might be left in aF state of lost quorum. If the first system then automatically rebooted,C it might rejoin the cluster and the cluster could regain quorum and  continue that way.  E > HOW CAN I FORCE A DUMP AFTER I AM AT THE "P00>>" CONSOLE PROMPT ???   > This is documented for various system types in the System DumpE Analyzer manual. The basic idea is to deposit a value of -1 in the PC E and then continue, causing an access violation and triggering a crash Z dump. See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/4556/4556pro_003.html#inducing_failure_sec  ? You can also trigger a crash dump using Availability Manager or  DECamds.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:20:30 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) / Subject: Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump ( Message-ID: <c3dsee$tjn$1@pcls4.std.com>  2 dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com (Dave Baxter) writes:  B >In the past month, I have had two occasions when my (2-node ES40,F >OVMS731)cluster has hung.     All of the symptoms point to a probable@ >Quorum Hang, (quite possible since I don't have a Quorum Disk),G >however there are some indications that this might not be the case.      + >(Note: VOTES = 1 each, EXPECTED_VOTES = 1)   B Bad move.  You have two total votes so EXPECTED_VOTES should be 2.D EXPECTED_VOTES=1 can allow you to boot two instances of the cluster,D which can cause incredible badness on shared drives.  (note that VMSF protects you by setting the internal level to 2 when it sees the other node)   8 >1.    Neither node crashed.  (so no quorum loss there).  F Wrong, you'll get quorum hang whenever one node can't see the other in
 your case.  G >2.    The cluster uses two fully independent GB ethernet interconnects A >(switches), which are private and do not connect to the network.    Definite goodness.  E >3.    My other cluster, (which uses the same interconnect (i.e. same . >pair of switches) was unaffected by the hang.  F If the two links are truly dedicated, take them off the switch and use crossover cables.   B >      I would really appreciate any comments/suggestions here.   F >(Please dont start berating me about the lack of a Quorum Disk unlessD >you think it would have avoided this problem, and can explain why).  E Well, with a 2 node cluster you really have 3 choices.  1) Make nodes C have equal votes, and if you lose one you lose both.  2) Make nodes D unequal, if the "master" goes down you lose both, but if the "slave"H goes down the master stays up.  3) Equal votes but also include a quorumH disk. This way you can lose one but not two of 3 items and still have atA least one working node (1 & 2, the two nodes, 3) the quorum disk) @ Or better yet, a quorum node that does nothing but vote. (an old+ workstation) 1 vote each, EXPECTED_VOTES=3.   * Your configuration is choice 1, the worst.  D >HOW CAN I FORCE A DUMP AFTER I AM AT THE "P00>>" CONSOLE PROMPT ???   The console command >>>CRASH.    --   -Mike    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Mar 2004 22:42:38 -08007 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) / Subject: Re: Cluster hang -- Getting Crash Dump = Message-ID: <8a646952.0403182242.1fc48509@posting.google.com>   v keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) wrote in message news:<cf15391e.0403181428.50250a66@posting.google.com>...w > dave.baxter@bannerhealth.com (Dave Baxter) wrote in message news:<a3c44af1.0403180929.2b8dac62@posting.google.com>... E > > In the past month, I have had two occasions when my (2-node ES40, I > > OVMS731)cluster has hung.     All of the symptoms point to a probable C > > Quorum Hang, (quite possible since I don't have a Quorum Disk), J > > however there are some indications that this might not be the case.   . > > (Note: VOTES = 1 each, EXPECTED_VOTES = 1) > E > EXPECTED_VOTES should always be set to the total of all VOTES (plus B > QDSKVOTES if present) in the cluster. Once both nodes are up andH > running, the cluster-wide value of Expected_Votes is ratcheted up to 2E > anyway, so you might as well set it properly to begin with. (If you D > ever have to boot one node alone, boot it conversationally and setH > EXPECTED_VOTES to 1 at the SYSBOOT prompt, and set WRITESYSPARAMS to 0; > at the same time so the change doesn't become permanent.)  > ; > > 1.    Neither node crashed.  (so no quorum loss there).  > 4 > Do you have access to console terminal log output? > > > If not, there might be some clues in the OPERATOR.LOG files. > J > > 2.    The cluster uses two fully independent GB ethernet interconnectsD > > (switches), which are private and do not connect to the network. >  > Nice!  > E > But on second thought, with only 2 nodes in this cluster, a pair of H > cross-over cables would work as well, have slightly lower latency (140@ > microseconds vs. 200 microseconds in my tests), and completely7 > eliminate the switch as a potential point of failure.  > H > > 3.    My other cluster, (which uses the same interconnect (i.e. same1 > > pair of switches) was unaffected by the hang.  > D > I'd recommend setting up LAVC$FAILURE_ANALYSIS. This will generateD > OPCOM messages if any parts of the LAN or a LAN adapter fails (andE > also indicate when it is repaired). The EDIT_LAVC.COM tool from the C > [KP_CLUSTERTOOLS] directory of the V6 Freeware CD will do all the + > heavy lifting for you in setting this up.  > J > > 4.    On examination, (i.e. after driving in from home to take care ofG > > the problem), all link lights are green on the GB Switches.    This H > > would seem to rule out the interconnects as the source of any quorumD > > loss.    And even if they did somehow, simultaneously lose theirG > > connection and cause a loss of quorum, would quorum not be restored 0 > > when the interconnect links reestablished??? > C > And with regard to having to drive in from home, it would be well C > worth setting up ConsoleWorks or Unicenter Console Management for G > OpenVMS so you could see the consoles and reboot systems if necessary  > remotely.  > B > If communications between the two systems was lost for less thanG > RECNXINTERVAL seconds, they would continue on afterward as if nothing  > had happened.  > B > If communications between the two systems was lost for more thanH > RECNXINTERVAL seconds and then restored, one of the two systems shouldH > crash with a CLUEXIT bugcheck. The remaining system might be left in aH > state of lost quorum. If the first system then automatically rebooted,E > it might rejoin the cluster and the cluster could regain quorum and  > continue that way.   Keith,  @ My understanding for a LAVC is that lost connection time must beD greater than RECNXINTERVAL or TIMVCFAIL based upon which is greater.E If RECNXINTERVAL is 10 and TIMVCFAIL is 20, then lost connection time > must be greater than 20 seconds. This is for VMS 5.5 or later.   Is this still correct???   Thanks,  Daryl Jones      > G > > HOW CAN I FORCE A DUMP AFTER I AM AT THE "P00>>" CONSOLE PROMPT ???  > @ > This is documented for various system types in the System DumpG > Analyzer manual. The basic idea is to deposit a value of -1 in the PC G > and then continue, causing an access violation and triggering a crash \ > dump. See http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/4556/4556pro_003.html#inducing_failure_sec > A > You can also trigger a crash dump using Availability Manager or 
 > DECamds.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:04:46 -0500 2 From: Chip Coldwell <coldwell@physics.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: CSR mappingL Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403181354590.13826-100000@localhost.localdomain>  $ On 18 Mar 2004, Simon Clubley wrote:  d > In article <c3c8br$dm6$1@news.fas.harvard.edu>, Chip Coldwell <coldwell@frank.harvard.edu> writes:J > > OK, here's yet another question for the kernel gurus.  In "Creating anI > > OpenVMS Alpha Device Driver from an OpenVMS VAX Device Driver" p. 2-3 
 > > one reads  > >  > K > Since you are making a reference to this manual, I wonder if you have the J > "Writing OpenVMS Alpha Device Drivers in C" book, which is the book that	 > I used.   E I have that book, and have read it.  I also have it on good authority F that the book is out of date (mostly relevant to VMS 6.2).  Certainly,@ it makes no mention of the csr_mapping function	I'm looking for.  I > Also, assuming that you are on a VMS 7.x version, you also need to read N > the "Alpha Guide to Upgrading Privileged-Code Applications" which deals with< > the changes for 64-bit addressing that VMS 7.x brought in.  A I'm writing for OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-1; I have this book as well.  I D didn't think to refer to it on the question at hand, but will do so.   Chip   --   Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell System Administrator Harvard Physics Department 617-495-3388   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Mar 2004 13:59:37 -0600B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) Subject: Re: CSR mapping3 Message-ID: <l8qLs2ZdJ1oE@eisner.encompasserve.org>    In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403181354590.13826-100000@localhost.localdomain>, Chip Coldwell <coldwell@physics.harvard.edu> writes:  > G > I have that book, and have read it.  I also have it on good authority H > that the book is out of date (mostly relevant to VMS 6.2).  Certainly,B > it makes no mention of the csr_mapping function	I'm looking for. >    Have you seen page 367 ?   Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       P SCO: Proudly pushing Microsoft down to #2 on the list of most disliked companies   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:49:42 -0500 0 From: Chip Coldwell <coldwell@frank.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: CSR mappingH Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403181749270.15058-100000@frank.harvard.edu>  $ On 18 Mar 2004, Simon Clubley wrote:   > In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403181354590.13826-100000@localhost.localdomain>, Chip Coldwell <coldwell@physics.harvard.edu> writes:  > > I > > I have that book, and have read it.  I also have it on good authority J > > that the book is out of date (mostly relevant to VMS 6.2).  Certainly,D > > it makes no mention of the csr_mapping function	I'm looking for. > >  >  > Have you seen page 367 ?   Ooops.  Thanks a lot.    Chip   --   Charles  M. "Chip" Coldwell  "Turn on, log in, tune out"    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:58:26 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: DECwindows: BDF vs PCF ) Message-ID: <405A1B7E.8765DA45@istop.com>   M Does anyone know why Digital decided to have .PCF fonts on Alpha-VMS and keep  BDF on VAX-VMS ?  J Or is the move to .pcf fonts on Alpha date from a recent time when no more2 enhancements are being made to decwindows on VAX ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:27:36 -0500 , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>> Subject: Re: Hit counter for Apache like #Accesses SSI in OSU?* Message-ID: <405a22c0@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  + Here's one that outputs an xbm file counter ) <img src="/cgi-bin/counter.com?filename"> J opens www:[count]filename.txt and add's one to the number stored in it. if itK doesn't exist it creates it (obviously the script needs write/create/update  access to the directory and files).  J You can modify it however you want. get rid of it doing the counter (works on mozilla but not IE)K get gif images of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0 and shove that binary info out if you  want or don't put out a ? counter but just count the number of times the page is touched.    enjoy.     $ lf[0,7] = %X0A ! line feed! $ digits = -  ! X bit map for 0-4 E  "0xff0xff0xff0xc30x990x990x990x990x990x990x990x990xc30xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0xcf0xc70xcf0xcf0xcf0xcf0xcf0xcf0xcf0xcf0xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0xc30x990x9f0x9f0xcf0xe70xf30xf90xf90x810xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0xc30x990x9f0x9f0xc70x9f0x9f0x9f0x990xc30xff0xff0xff"+- C  "0xff0xff0xff0xcf0xcf0xc70xc70xcb0xcb0xcd0x810xcf0x870xff0xff0xff" ( $ digits = digits +- ! X bit map for 5-9E  "0xff0xff0xff0x810xf90xf90xf90xc10x9f0x9f0x9f0x990xc30xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0xc70xf30xf90xf90xc10x990x990x990x990xc30xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0x810x990x9f0x9f0xcf0xcf0xe70xe70xf30xf30xff0xff0xff"+- E  "0xff0xff0xff0xc30x990x990x990xc30x990x990x990x990xc30xff0xff0xff"+- C  "0xff0xff0xff0xc30x990x990x990x990x830x9f0x9f0xcf0xe30xff0xff0xff"  $! $open:> $ open/read/write/error=read_error counter www:[count]'p1'.txt $ read counter record  $ count = f$integer(record) + 1 B $ record = f$extract(f$length(count)-1,7,"000000"+f$string(count)) $ write/update counter record  $ close counter 5 $ write sys$output "Content-type: image/x-xbitmap"+lf ; $ write sys$output "Expires: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:00:00 GMT" = $ write sys$output "Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate" % $ write sys$output "Pragma: no-cache"  $ write sys$output lf . $ write sys$output "#define count_width 56"+lf/ $ write sys$output "#define count_height 16"+lf 4 $ write sys$output "static char count_bits[] = {"+lf $ x = 0  $xloop:  $ hold = ""  $ y = 1  $yloop: ( $ c = f$integer(f$extract(y-1,1,record))2 $ hold = hold + f$extract(((c*64)+(4*x)),4,digits)% $ if y .lt. 7 then hold = hold + ", "  $ y = y + 1  $ if y .lt. 8 then goto yloop  $ if x .eq. 15 $  then hold = hold + "};" $  else hold = hold + ", " $ endif  $ write sys$output hold+lf $ x = x + 1  $ if x .lt. 16 then goto xloop $ goto exit  $read_error: $ status = $statusC $ if status .eq. %X1001828A then goto open !file locked, just retry @ $ if status .eq. %X10018292  !file not found, (try to) create it? $  then open/write/error=read_error counter www:[count]'p1'.txt  $ write counter "0000000"  $ close counter  $ goto open  $ endif - $ write sys$output "Content-type: text/plain"  $ write sys$output "" $ $ write sys$output f$message(status) $exit: $ exit $!6 $! COUNTER.COM -- just to see if I could do it in DCL.8 $! call this by <IMG SRC="/cgi-bin/counter.com?filename>F $! debug it by calling it by itself: http://.../cgi-bin/counter.com...J $! returns an XBM image of the number of hits; or plaintext with the errorJ $! You will need to create the counter yourself if the server doesn't have $! write access.  5 "Brian Tillman" <tillmabg@yahoo.com> wrote in message ! news:012EB261.C22236@yahoo.com... . > "Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr" wrote: > J > > The OSU webserver supports a hit count or accesses counter through the@ > > preprocessor.  (When the preprocessor runs as a presentation > > script forA > > a particular page, and sees the Accesses tag, it looks up the  > > file name in= > > an RMS indexed file, creates a new record if there's none  > > there, increments A > > the access count, (re) writes the record, and substitutes the 1 > > incremented access count in the output page.)  > K > The best part of that counter is that it's visible no matter what browser  > accessed the page. > --   > Brian Tillman  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:39:22 GMT 4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)< Subject: Re: How do I tell if my Alpha is a L1 or L2 router?. Message-ID: <Jqq6c.35362$JL2.401668@attbi_s03>  V In article <slrnc5jjrv.ahj.njc@wolfgang.uucp>, Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp> writes:C !Sorry for the clueless question but how do I tell if my Alpha is a  !Level 1 or Level 2 router?  !   % Using DECnet Phase V, the command is:   % RABBIT::BRAD$ mcr ncl sho routing all  Node 0 Routing$ at 2004-03-18-23:36:22.806+00:00Iinf   .  .  .  Characteristics   )     Initialization Timer              = 6 )     Holding Multiplier                = 3 *     Poll ESHello Rate                 = 50+     Default ESHello Timer             = 600 *     Multicircuit ESHello Timer        = 10*     Inactive Selector                 = 33)     ES Cache Width                    = 3 +     ES Cache Holding Time             = 600 .     Version                           = V3.0.0/     Type                              = Endnode /                                         ^^^^^^^   J (as you can see, I have an end node - Level 1 or Level 2 will show in this space)    -     Generate Checksums                = False *     Lifetime                          = 63,     Probe Rate                        = 1000,     DNA Address Format                = True'     Manual Network Entity Titles      =         {        }+     Segment Buffer Size               = 570 +     PhaseIV Buffer Size               = 576 +     PhaseIV Address                   = 1.1 ,     PhaseIV Prefix                    = 49::*     PhaseIV Maximum Visits            = 632     Routing Mode                      = Integrated+     ES Cache Size                     = 512  .  .  .    !-- E !Linux Home Automation         Neil Cherry        ncherry@comcast.net < !http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/               (Text only)> !http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                 (SourceForge)9 !http://hcs.sourceforge.net/                     (HCS II)   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:32:24 -0600 % From: Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp> < Subject: Re: How do I tell if my Alpha is a L1 or L2 router?. Message-ID: <slrnc5kmto.e39.njc@wolfgang.uucp>  = On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 23:39:22 GMT, Bradford J. Hamilton wrote: X > In article <slrnc5jjrv.ahj.njc@wolfgang.uucp>, Neil Cherry <njc@wolfgang.uucp> writes:E > !Sorry for the clueless question but how do I tell if my Alpha is a  > !Level 1 or Level 2 router?  > !  > ' > Using DECnet Phase V, the command is:  > ' > RABBIT::BRAD$ mcr ncl sho routing all   C Thanks, I'll keep that command for future use. It turns out I had a @ problem with my ethernet port. It kept getting set for 100M/HalfD duplex. We changed it to 10/Half and now it behaves much better. YesC it's on a dumb hub. Now onto the next fun subject, LAT! Oh joy! :-)    --  D Linux Home Automation         Neil Cherry        ncherry@comcast.net; http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/               (Text only) = http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/                 (SourceForge) 8 http://hcs.sourceforge.net/                     (HCS II)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:04:50 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>B Subject: Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour) Message-ID: <405A00DF.3532CFA9@istop.com>   
 MikeWJ wrote:  > N > Now for the REAL questions  Which browser(s) [and version(s)] are you using? > The next question:      6 > Does this site conform to W3C standards or some lame > Microsoft flavor?   K The VMS home page pretends, in its top line, to be 4.01 tansitional (in the  DTD).   J > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hp.com%2Fgo%2Fopenvms  ' You'll see just how "conformant" it is.      > http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hp.com%2Fgo%2Fopenvms&warning=1&profile=css2&usermedium=all   N The style sheet validator gives 2 warnings: first, you should use it only ocneL the HTML is valid. Second, it states that it didn't find any style sheets toM validate (which is right because the document doesn't use the standard method  to include style sheets).     L What browser I used is absolutely IRRELEVANT. Go back to the roots of HTML. J That is what standards are used for.  Most developers feel a need to writeK more complex pages than necessary because they feel a need to justify their L jobs and/or they do not know HTML well and don't realise that you can have aL link pop into a new window  with just a "target="_blank" tag in the <A href=N tag instead of complex javascript that pops a window where they have forgotten to enable menu, buttons etc).   M And I think that there are also control freaks who want to monitor your every L move onto the web site so thay can draw fairly useless statistics to give to
 their bosses.   N Another one is developpers who are clueless on web servers and do not make useN of their facilities. For instance, major corporations who, instead of changingM the location of their home page in the web server config, decide to pathc the M old home page with lots of javascript that redirects to another page (the new T home page). (They could at least just use the standard HTML way with the <META tag).  M In the case of Mr Sanders, he wants to include tons of javascript as a way to N standardise some contents. Have you heard about server-dide includes ? You putM a couple of "private" tags in your HTML and when the page is serverd, the web E server automatically embeds another file into the file being served. M  K This greatly reduces on HTTP transactions since a single transaction serves2 the whole document.N   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:29:51 -0500 , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>B Subject: Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour* Message-ID: <405a2347@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in messagep# news:40593E7C.E836D49F@istop.com...  > warren sander wrote:I > > as for the style sheets. they are defined in a javascript and use the  > > 'theme' the set things up. >aI > Why ? First of all, those who have javascript disabled but style sheetsuL > enabled don't get any of this. Secondly, it is not very good documentationD > when users rtry to debug why HP's pages don't render well on their browser. > E > Hiding the style sheets under hidden javascript is not a good idea.  >g! > Why not use the standard HTML ?m > < > <LINK href="mystyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">  C because someone in hp.com worked with a vendor to come up with thiszJ stuff. I didn't do it but have to adhear to the hp.com standard. It's used on  all the hp.com sites world wide.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:00:17 -0400t* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>B Subject: Re: HP VMS web site: terrible coding of background colour) Message-ID: <405A1BED.C39FCF4C@istop.com>-   warren sander wrote:E > because someone in hp.com worked with a vendor to come up with this L > stuff. I didn't do it but have to adhear to the hp.com standard. It's used > on" > all the hp.com sites world wide.  J I realise that. Criticism isn't meant at you personally. I'd say the largeE majority here know that you are forced by HP to use these poor design N standards. But if we never complained, you'd never have any amunition to bring, with you when you go to those web comittees.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:42:25 -0400V* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>- Subject: Re: Message-ID ??? How to replicate?p) Message-ID: <4059FBA0.301D13A4@istop.com>f   John Brandon wrote: M > I was wondering where the Message-ID came from when sending an e-mail using  > MIME.n  N Probably from a quadword time value. (just a guess). The message ID just needsN to be a unique number, and normally, the stuff following the @ is normally the host/node name.   C > I want to replicate this, or do I need to concern myself with it?.   From RFC822:& 4.6.1.  MESSAGE-ID / RESENT-MESSAGE-ID  F              This field contains a unique identifier  (the  local-partF         address  unit)  which  refers to THIS version of THIS message.F         The uniqueness of the message identifier is guaranteed by  theF         host  which  generates  it.  This identifier is intended to beF         machine readable and not necessarily meaningful to humans.   AF         message  identifier pertains to exactly one instantiation of aF         particular message; subsequent revisions to the message should-         each receive new message identifiers.1   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:36:37 +0000 (UTC)EP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)8 Subject: Re: perhaps on-topic: Google can't find a page!$ Message-ID: <c3e4dk$et3$2@online.de>  E In article <c3bogj$26eltb$1@ID-132135.news.uni-berlin.de>, Paul Sturen" <nospam@sture.homeip.net> writes:   L > > I don't have a clue how Google works.  I can tell you they rake my sites> > > multiple times daily along with many other search engines.  I Looking in my logs, I see that the old page in question was being hit by  ? googlebot about once a month, but the last time was 21 January.o   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:33:22 +0000 (UTC)rP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)8 Subject: Re: perhaps on-topic: Google can't find a page!$ Message-ID: <c3e47i$et3$1@online.de>  2 In article <40594139.15648AB0@istop.com>, JF Mezei$ <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:   I > > Is there a problem with Google reaching pages on multi-homed servers?t > H > What I have done is add a hidden link in my main page that goes to the > different URL. > 6 > eg: www.chocolate.com/index.html contains at bottom: >   > <A href="www.pastry.com"> </A> > P > This way, when Google/Alta Vista visit my main site, they also see the link to > the "other web site".M  ; OK, that increases the chances, but should it be NECESSARY?e  I After some further investigation, I see that the old page with a link to mG the new page has apparently not been updated, even though the contents ?D and timestamp have changed---one can find the page by searching for I words which were on the old version, but not by searching for words only o in the new version.n   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:36:58 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>, Subject: Re: Postal mail sorting application( Message-ID: <4059FA59.3CB2951@istop.com>   Sue Skonetski wrote:C > If you look at the HP OpenVMS home page you will find that the USr > Postal Service uses VMS.    N Sue, stating that company uses VMS may be good for marketing/image, but from aL technical point of view, it doesn't say much because the USPS could be usingN VMS to print employee time cards, or it could be using VMS to control the mailH sorting plant, decypher postal codes and activate the gates to shunt the enveloppe to the right bin.h   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 02:21:12 GMTA1 From: "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net>*, Subject: Re: Postal mail sorting application7 Message-ID: <sOs6c.44059$F9.39895@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>   3 Just out of my curiousity, the VAX version of what?b  F The original question of a 'postal mail sorting application' is fairlyI general.  The USPS has sorting gear from various vendors, each with their K own purpose (flats, letters, bundles, etc.).  There are 'sorters' for going I down to carrier level.  There's gear for doing OCR look-ups. There's gearuI for doing remote-encoding if the OCR can't make out the address.  There'shK gear for doing performance collection (i.e., how many letters per hour were=I sorted).  Some of the gear is 10 years old, new stuff is also coming out.r  C More detail is needed before this question can be readily answered.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:31:49 +0800h, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>  Subject: Re: Toys R Us and VMS ?- Message-ID: <878yhxx5fu.fsf@prep.synonet.com>a  / phillip_thayer@hotmail.com (PhilThayer) writes:n  c > Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message news:<87ptbgs6y4.fsf@prep.synonet.com>...o2 >> phillip_thayer@hotmail.com (PhilThayer) writes:   E >> > The next time you fly in the US and you don't crash into anothere >> > plane, you can thank VMS.  s >> It is T64 here.  D > Is there air traffic in Western Australia?  :) Seriously, I do notB > know about the Air Traffic Control systems in Australia, but the# > stock market there is run on VMS.   G It has been `improved' and is now all done from Melbourne and Brisbane.e  hF >> > The next time the AWACS goes up and tracks all aircraft along the8 >> > borders of the US to protest us, you can thank VMS.   >> :)e  3 >> Also T64 here, but about to be turfed for linux.a  ; > Doesn't surprise me.  Due to FMS (Foreign Military Sales) E > restrictions you probably have the older version of the AWACS whichs$ > was on UNX.  The latest is on VMS.  G We have no plans to sell it to you, so far anyway. This started on VMS,( and is now on T64.   -- a< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.e@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:49:48 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>  Subject: Re: Toys R Us and VMS ?) Message-ID: <405A1972.42800F27@istop.com>s   Paul Repacholi wrote:tI > It has been `improved' and is now all done from Melbourne and Brisbane.  > H > >> > The next time the AWACS goes up and tracks all aircraft along the: > >> > borders of the US to protest us, you can thank VMS.  I By the way, was VMS involved at all at that super secret over the horizontK radar facility they tried to hide in the middle of the outback just west ofh
 Laverton WA ?e   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:20:20 -06000( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)< Subject: Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-2001 Message-ID: <04031813202036@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>o   Frank Gribbin writes:@J >     We have Vaxes running VMS 5.5-2. We can't upgrade because we depend I > on third party software that was never upgraded beyond 5.5-2. I recall n= > that one can't address SCSI disks that are bigger than 8Gb.f  0 That is correct for V5.5-x, 8-GB is the largest.   > We've K > recently had a 4Gb disk fail. Fortunately we had disk shadowing and have tK > a couple more disks on-line. However we don't have any spares to replace   > the failed 4Gb disk.   What type of controllers?l  J >     Does anyone know if its possible to use larger disks but initialise H > so it looks like it's 8Gb or less? It seems like it's difficult to get7 > SCSI disks less than 18Gb. Suggestions for suppliers?e  K I have HSZ50's and HSG80's that will use a larger disk drive and create theaN metadata for a smaller drive - in a failover event.  So yes it will if you are using a controller as such.e       J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administratorh* firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:38:35 -0600l/ From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>s< Subject: Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-2002 Message-ID: <405A08CB.DC291C4@applied-synergy.com>   Frank Gribbin wrote: > I >     We have Vaxes running VMS 5.5-2. We can't upgrade because we dependrH > on third party software that was never upgraded beyond 5.5-2. I recallC > that one can't address SCSI disks that are bigger than 8Gb. We'vetJ > recently had a 4Gb disk fail. Fortunately we had disk shadowing and haveJ > a couple more disks on-line. However we don't have any spares to replace > the failed 4Gb disk. > I >     Does anyone know if its possible to use larger disks but initialiseaH > so it looks like it's 8Gb or less? It seems like it's difficult to get7 > SCSI disks less than 18Gb. Suggestions for suppliers?   E Just to be pendantic, VMS 5.5-2 doesn't have an 8GB restriction.  RMSn 5.5-2 does.   D I use 10GB drivers under VMS 5.5-2 by mounting them foreign and thenC partitioning them into logical disks (each smaller than 8GB).  Thiss< works quite well.  (This will NOT work for the system disk!)  E You specify a VAX 4000-200.  This machine does not have native SCSI. uC What SCSI controller are you using?  Does it have the facilities to  partition drives?   
 Good luck!  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------m$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com c   Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:44:39 GMT & From: Lee Mah <lytmah@telusplanet.net>< Subject: Re: VMS 5.5-2 disk size limitations on VAX 4000-200, Message-ID: <bLo6c.95905$Ff2.29570@clgrps12>  E Running Alpha's at VMS 7.3 with Storageworks HSJ disks, I was able to J connect to HSJ disk controllers and reconfigure 18.2GB disks into multipleE 4.3GB disks which matched the exact size of our existing shadow disksfB I used these new 'physical' disks and HBVS to migrate our data to 
 another site.eE I don't know whether 5.5-2 has this HSJ configuration utility though.U     Frank Gribbin wrote:  I >    We have Vaxes running VMS 5.5-2. We can't upgrade because we depend SI > on third party software that was never upgraded beyond 5.5-2. I recall tD > that one can't address SCSI disks that are bigger than 8Gb. We've F > recently had a 4Gb disk fail. Fortunately we had disk shadowing and H > have a couple more disks on-line. However we don't have any spares to  > replace the failed 4Gb disk. > I >    Does anyone know if its possible to use larger disks but initialise CH > so it looks like it's 8Gb or less? It seems like it's difficult to get7 > SCSI disks less than 18Gb. Suggestions for suppliers?$ >$	 > Thanks,. > Franka >b   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:33:58 -0400h* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>& Subject: Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances) Message-ID: <4059F9A5.6AEA8639@istop.com>q   John Brandon wrote:o) > Point # 1 - Nothing more than a widget.e  G Think X terminal (thin client) that runs HTTP/HTML instead of Xwindows.   " > Point # 3 - Can you say Dot Com?  J I am not so sure. Oracle has been pushing for thin clients. The problem isJ that a low end PC can act as such and probably costs less than a real one.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:47:38 +0100n" From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>& Subject: Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances. Message-ID: <c3d1td$1arf$1@biggoron.nerim.net>   So, a thin Client?  O How come http://www.rightvision.com/?lg=english&rubrique=main may be called an lN Internet Appliances Company? They sell Internet Office Desktop interfaces ala M easyplanet (http://www.easyplanet.com/). Is EasyPlanet an Internet Appliance ( product too?   D.   JF Mezei wrote:sO > One definition is a small wintel box running only explorer and outlook. ThinkyH > of what internet cafs provide and you have an example of that type of > "internet appliance".  > N > EG: a box that runs only a web browser and email program (and in some cases, > just the browser).   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:47:53 +0100e" From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>& Subject: Re: [OT?] Internet Appliances. Message-ID: <c3d1tr$1arf$2@biggoron.nerim.net>   LOL    Bob Koehler wrote:  U > In article <c3ae26$2psj$1@biggoron.nerim.net>, Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes:) > M >>I heared today for the first time the expression "Internet Appliances" and  K >>Google gives me thousand of pages on this, without explaining what it is.) >  > & >    Meaningless marketing expression. >    -- n2 VAXUS - Your new helpful friend in the DEC Family!2 EHQ: 19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France/       Phone: +336 7983 6418 Fax: +335 6154 1928M$                 http://www.vaxus.org   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Mar 2004 11:30:47 -0800) From: ssmith94132@yahoo.com (Steve Smith)82 Subject: [Simh] Newbie has network compile problem< Message-ID: <33bc038.0403181130.2a85616c@posting.google.com>  3 I didn't see anything on the newsgroups about this.c2 I'm sure it's simple, but I'm not having any luck.  Using "make USE_NETWORK=1". TIA.   SIMH V3.1-0 updated 31-Dec-03    Linux version 2.4.18-33 (bhcompile@stripples.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version4 2.96& 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110))  
 libpcap 0.8.1s  ( /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_open':4 /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0x4fa): undefined reference to `pcap_setnonblock'* /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_filter':4 /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xd8b): undefined reference to `pcap_setnonblock'+ /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_devices': 4 /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xdd3): undefined reference to `pcap_findalldevs'4 /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xf01): undefined reference to `pcap_freealldevs'# collect2: ld returned 1 exit statusa make: *** [BIN/pdp11] Error 1    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:53:05 GMTe4 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk>6 Subject: Re: [Simh] Newbie has network compile problem. Message-ID: <405A2594.625989@blueyonder.co.uk>   Steve Smith wrote: > 5 > I didn't see anything on the newsgroups about this.m4 > I'm sure it's simple, but I'm not having any luck." > Using "make USE_NETWORK=1". TIA. >  > SIMH V3.1-0 updated 31-Dec-03t >  > Linux version 2.4.18-35 > (bhcompile@stripples.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version  > 2.96( > 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)) >  > libpcap 0.8.1  > * > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_open':6 > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0x4fa): undefined reference to > `pcap_setnonblock', > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_filter':6 > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xd8b): undefined reference to > `pcap_setnonblock'- > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o: In function `eth_devices': 6 > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xdd3): undefined reference to > `pcap_findalldevs'6 > /tmp/cc3ffVSZ.o(.text+0xf01): undefined reference to > `pcap_freealldevs'% > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status  > make: *** [BIN/pdp11] Error 1_    5 Did you install the pcap option on your Linux distro? 6 Its been a while since I went there but Im pretty sure8 I had to load it manually into my Mandrake system to get# the emulator workin on the network.    Or maybe you need tun on linux?v   Yes, its a bit messy.i   --   tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.154 ************************