1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 29 Mar 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 174       Contents:6 Re: basic questions about ALPHAserver 2000 4/{200|233}6 Re: basic questions about ALPHAserver 2000 4/{200|233} Re: Device names in OVMS ??  RE: IBM Brazil' JF as Lorena Bobbit: Jesus Masturbated! < JF on Star Wars: Princess Lea masturbates, Chewbacca is gay! The J F  M e z e i  F A Q  Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q  Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q  Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q  Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q  Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q P This is a Last Mohican fight (was: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipula, Re: VMS 7.3-2 operating-system documentation$ Whats Wrong with this Backup Command( Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Command( Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Command( Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Command( Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Command= RE: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the news = Re: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the news - Re: [OT] Outlook 2003 efficiency against spam   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 03:18:31 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>? Subject: Re: basic questions about ALPHAserver 2000 4/{200|233} - Message-ID: <87k714n5ko.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   R helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  D > I forgot one other question: When one opens up the big door on theA > front, there are three switches.  The top one is for power, the  > bottom  A There is also another power switch on the back, next to the power + cord.  There should be a green LED near it.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:28:05 GMT ( From: Phaeton   <spameater@spam.invalid>? Subject: Re: basic questions about ALPHAserver 2000 4/{200|233} 8 Message-ID: <9cJ9c.4215$KS1.238667@nasal.pacific.net.au>   	Just as a note:B 	I have the innards ( 5 boards ) of an AlphaServer 2000  *already*D 	in Europe for sale, if someone is interested. ( No memory though. )   							Cheers,  Csaba   J  -------------------------------------------------------------------------H   CSABA I. HARANGOZO  |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|  csabah(at)zipworld(dot)com(dot)auJ  -------------------------------------------------------------------------;    EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:     Sattinger's Law :$   It works better if you plug it in.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 20:06:40 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) $ Subject: Re: Device names in OVMS ??( Message-ID: <c47b8g$t48$1@pcls4.std.com>   Roert G. Schaffrath wrote: E > Just curious but what is bus type "I"?  In the SIMH simulator, if I I > leave the MSCP TQ controller set to "TK50", I get devices MUA0: through F > MUA3: with a device type "TK50".  However, if I set the TQ device toH > "TK70", I get devices MIA0: through MIA3: and a device type of "TF70".  J DI/MI mean a DSSI bus.  The protocol is the same as DU/MU devices, in factG DSSI drives use the DU/TUdrivers, but the hardware is over the DSSI bus H rather than the CI bus.  There is no logical reason for the simulator toG switch from one to another, rather than simply picking one or the other  for all modes. --   -Mike    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:16:26 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: IBM Brazil R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2C6AAA@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   =20  > -----Original Message-----: > From: Fabio Cardoso [mailto:fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br]=20 > Sent: March 28, 2004 1:17 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: IBM Brazil  >=208 > Today I read an IBM employment ad in the newspaper.=208 > This company is hiring  a lot of professionals with=20 > experience in: >=207 > AIX / Solaris / HPUX / Fujitsu / EMC / CISCO / etc...  >=20* > I think it is because of it (from Cnet): >=20> > http://news.com.com/2100-7784_3-5176428.html?tag=3Dnefd_lede >=203 > Well... you know - No mention about OpenVMS  !=20  >=20@ > I dont know about OVMS jobs here in Brazil (Rio) since 2000=20 > or 2001  !=20 < > By the way .. I dont read Good News about OpenVMS ports toB > Itanium for a long time in this newsgroup (since the AMD OpteronG > rumours) , or in Cnet, or in TheInquirer !  Is it lagged/stopped ?=20  >=20 >=20	 > Regards  >=20 > FC   Fabio,  G Re: OpenVMS IPF app news - you could start looking here: (select letter  of partner) < http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/matrix/i64partner_A.html   Also, new IPF/OpenVMS brochure: H http://www.hp.com/products1/evolution/alpha_retaintrust/download/OVMS_WP
 _1_044.pdf   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom . (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 02:40:03 +0200 (CEST)% From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> 0 Subject: JF as Lorena Bobbit: Jesus Masturbated!8 Message-ID: <841334d2755c9f4fbbb628a543abeb4d@dizum.com>  = Lorenna Bobbit (JF Mezei) <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com> trolled:    >Lina Morgan wrote: H >> That is different.  Menstruation is a natural process created by God. > @ >Continual sperm production is a natural process created by God. > L >Continual libido in humans, versus annual "heat" in other mammals is also a  >natural process created by God. > J >Masturbation is one form of population control. I am not aware that it isJ >banned by the catholic church, contrary to condoms and the pill which are >banned by the catholic church.  > G >Male mammals will hump any female in heat and females will be pregnant M >everytime they are in heat. Population control is generally established by a K >mechanism whereby lack of food will result in females not getting in heat. O >This is also applicable to humans where a female, when its body fat goes below 0 >a certain level (I think 12%) will not ovulate. > J >If there was no contraception, would you accept to become pregnant at theO >first ovulation after you have given birth until you stopped ovulating ? Would 4 >you accept to start the pregnancies as a teenager ? > O >You have to face the fact that humans have males who are constantly hungry for M >sex, and females which ovulate every 28 days. Perhaps not as fast as rabbits L >and rats, but we're way up there, compared to other mammals that do it only
 >once a year.  > O >And if society wants to limit populatin growth, then you have to accept that a O >large percentage of reproduction opportunities MUST be killed and only a small J >percentage allowed to go through. This means masturbation for males whoseH >libido is higher than females, and contraception for when both male and >females want to do it.  > J >Finally, do you really think that Jesus could have lived 33 years withoutK >masturbating once ? The guy was a teenager at one point. And unless he was P >given fancy hormones, he would have had raging erections like every other male. > K >Finally, sex and masturbation are great cardio vascular exercises and help M >reduce hearth problems. A wank a day helps keeps the doctor away (unless the E >doctor is a shapely female wearing nothing under her white dress :-)   O Have you considered asking for an audience with the Pope to discuss the subject  of Jesus masturbating?   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS    About JF MEZEI   (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004)   1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.   J ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILO ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***   I If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the K control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your messages, P forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?    Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezei  86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 695-8259  / His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.com   * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourO newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out, O every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to pleas I to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay O attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just M goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears G closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"    5.  What does he troll about?   P His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He hates theK USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing C fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.   $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  P Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceralP hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier, better, moreJ successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sN favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis ofJ evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   P Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.  Among hisI favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys, M circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.    8.  Circumcision???   P Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to insertF circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasP traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,O left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. N Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,O he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arranged D to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionN proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His mainO argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised M without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has > made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.  H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  N Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects dearO to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's J foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aK tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate H early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  L He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their littleM boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement, O and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be a > world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.  M 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!  Are  you sure about all this stuff?  P Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there.   M 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like  all trolls do?  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling  aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?   O Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown man O who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups M all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike G down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.   9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   M Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got past G the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my H finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  L 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
 that true?  M Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. N He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms overP the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the menO in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is N left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.   O 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!   M Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat N world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that heL sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the) USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.   O What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was J "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,N writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a goodM freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made him P fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines andO their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid is M he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees O went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air D Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash1 investigation.  He has never recovered from this.   6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  O His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, J arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forM decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share J his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer G groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the N sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlesslyP with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But they ranN him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail% between his legs, licking his wounds.   P 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.  O Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips P in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,L more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they* won't find out what a major netkook he is.  P 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  O Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while you're at I it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And to O alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.   4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@istop.com  abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com  L For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at ralph@doncaster.on.ca.  P And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it toP people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazinesI that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.      *** APPENDIX ***  P List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This isK only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.    jfmezei@istop.com  jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev>) Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com>  muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au> # snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>   Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org> % Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org> $ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com> & Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org> & Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org> $ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org> " Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> ) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org> " Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org> * Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>  Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>   ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*    ------------------------------  , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 03:20:02 +0200 (CEST)% From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> E Subject: JF on Star Wars: Princess Lea masturbates, Chewbacca is gay! 8 Message-ID: <47ae8655cace73b9c06960bc13e9c2d1@dizum.com>  ; Lando Calrisian (JF Mezei) <Lcalrisian@empire.org> trolled:    >This just in: > L >C3PO is gay and is getting married to Chubakka.  (and C3P0 definitely needs >lube to wank).  > D >Luke Skywalker need not use his hand masturbate, he uses the force. > L >Luke has rubbed his manhood wand against that of Darth Vader and then foundL >out it was his father. Imagine that, and they even showed it on TV ! (it is >called incest, isn't it ?)  > N >Pricess Lea definitely masturbates, but doesn't admit to it. She Uses R2D2 as >a giant vibrator. > G >To Lina Morgan, the anti-masturbation crusader: If teenage boys didn't M >maturbate, you'd have to keep your teenage daughter locked up to protect her > >against sex hungry males ready to rape any female that moves.  H Have you contacted Hollywood to offer your writing services for the next prequel?     FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS    About JF MEZEI   (Rev. Mar. 28, 2004)   1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.   J ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILO ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***   I If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the K control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your messages, P forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.    3.  Where does he live?    Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezei  86 Harwood Gate  Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3  (514) 695-8259  / His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.com   * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourO newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out, O every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to pleas I to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay O attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just M goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears G closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"    5.  What does he troll about?   P His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He hates theK USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing C fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.   $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  P Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceralP hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier, better, moreJ successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sN favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis ofJ evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?   P Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.  Among hisI favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys, M circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.    8.  Circumcision???   P Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to insertF circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasP traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,O left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. N Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,O he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arranged D to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionN proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His mainO argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised M without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has > made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.  H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  N Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects dearO to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's J foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aK tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate H early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  L He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their littleM boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement, O and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be a > world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.  M 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!  Are  you sure about all this stuff?  P Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there.   M 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like  all trolls do?  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling  aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?   O Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown man O who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups M all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike G down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.   9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?   M Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got past G the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my H finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  L 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
 that true?  M Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. N He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms overP the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the menO in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is N left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.   O 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!   M Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat N world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that heL sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the) USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.   O What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was J "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,N writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a goodM freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made him P fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines andO their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid is M he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees O went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air D Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash1 investigation.  He has never recovered from this.   6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  O His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, J arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forM decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share J his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer G groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the N sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlesslyP with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But they ranN him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail% between his legs, licking his wounds.   P 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.  O Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips P in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,L more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they* won't find out what a major netkook he is.  P 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  O Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while you're at I it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And to O alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.   4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@istop.com  abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com  L For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at ralph@doncaster.on.ca.  P And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it toP people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazinesI that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.      *** APPENDIX ***  P List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This isK only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.    jfmezei@istop.com  jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com  jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca  nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca  "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>  nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>  nobody <nobody@null.dev>) Lorenna Bobbit <lbobbit@ginsu_knives.com> ' Lando Calrisian <Lcalrisian@empire.org>  muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au> # snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree> ) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org> & Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org> " Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org> ( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org> % Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>  Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org> ! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org> # Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>   Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>  Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org> $ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org> ! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>n  Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>a% Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>F$ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>M& Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org> % Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>e& Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil> ' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>e% Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>m$ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum> ( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>u" Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>l) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org> ' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>n" Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org>e* Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>)* Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>t Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>r  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*-   ------------------------------  , Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:10:01 +0200 (CEST)% From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>R" Subject: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q8 Message-ID: <fedc3ff6c1940b29007004fb5561bf72@dizum.com>   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS	     AboutI JF MEZEI   (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004)   1.  Who is JF Mezei?  G Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit)J rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the) longest running trolls in usenet history.R  J ***WARNING:  JF MEZEI IS A ROGUE CANCELLER.  HE FORGES THE NAME AND E-MAILO ADDRESS OF USENET POSTERS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND CANCELS THEIR MESSAGES.***D  I If you participate in the same newsgroups he does, you should monitor the K control.cancel newsgroup.  If you find that he has cancelled your messages,4P forward a copies of them to Ralph Doncaster of Istop at  ralph@doncaster.on.ca .  " 2.  How long has he been trolling?   For well over a decade.c   3.  Where does he live?c   Montreal, Quebec, Canada   Jean-Francois Mezeip 86 Harwood GateM Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3v (514) 695-8259  / His current e-mail address is jfmezei@istop.com   * 4.  What makes him such a malicious troll?  H His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless.  Once he invades yourO newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,UO every day of the year, for years and years on end.  He does not listen to pleastI to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not payiO attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he justeM goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears,G closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"u   5.  What does he troll about?D  P His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex.  He hates theK USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashingoC fest.  If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.   $ 6.  What does he hate about the USA?  P Everything!  He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceralP hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly.  The USA is a happier, better, moreJ successful version of their country and they can't stand it.  Some of JF'sN favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis ofJ evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all Americans are stupid" etc.  # 7.  What about his sexual trolling?t  P Ah, that is JF at his trolling best.  No sexual topic is too bizarre.  Among hisI favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,nM circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.i   8.  Circumcision???p  P Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years.  He still likes to insertF circumcision into his trolling every now and then.  Apparently, JF wasP traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,O left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world. N Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,O he was psychologically scarred (so he claims).  As soon as he could he arrangedeD to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcisionN proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy.  His mainO argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumciseduM without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he hast> made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.  H 9.  What's his interest in child sexuality?  That sounds kind of freaky.  N Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky.  Among the subjects dearO to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's J foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens.  He is also aK tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbateiH early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".  L He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their littleM boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,eO and that they be able to masturbate with no problems.  Utopia for JF would be ao> world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.  M 10.  Ewww!  This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute!  Are  you sure about all this stuff?  P Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself.  There's over a decade full of Mezei trolling in there.o  M 11.  How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time likea all trolls do?  K Of course!  See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trollingy aliases.  G 12.  So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?t  O Ha ha ha!  JF hasn't worked a day in his life!  He's an adult baby, a grown mandO who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroupslM all night.  In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bikeaG down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.s  9 13.  That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?g  M Bingo!  JF is a boy in a grown man's body.  Psychologically he never got pastlG the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my H finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.  L 14.  Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
 that true?  M Yes!  JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room. N He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms overP the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins.  He stalks the menO in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is N left if they have been circumcised.  He gets extremely excited when he spots a case of phimosis.s  O 15.  Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts!  He should be locked up in an insane asylum!N  M Yep, JF is certifiably insane.  He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hatRN world where others are out to get him.  The key to understanding JF is that heL sees himself as a VICTIM.  To JF the world is out to get him, especially the) USA.  Victimhood is what JF is all about.a  O What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system waslJ "killed", in his words.  He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,N writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a goodM freak.  Then he turned his attention to aviation.  Major events that made himtP fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines andO their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil).  So paranoid iseM he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees.O went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the AirlD Canada markings.  He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash1 investigation.  He has never recovered from this.   6 16.  Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!  O His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient, J arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously forM decades.  JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who sharehJ his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore.  It's really pathetic!  ! 17.  Where else does he hang out?   I can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computersG groups.  For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded theSN sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlesslyP with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for.  But they ranN him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail% between his legs, licking his wounds.d  P 18.  It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.  O Pretty much.  For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slipsuP in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,L more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they* won't find out what a major netkook he is.  P 19.  Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho he is!  O Exactly.  Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms.  And while you're at,I it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too.  And towO alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.t  4 20.  What else can I do?  Is there an abuse address?  H Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:   abuse@istop.comi abuse@sympatico.ca abuse@bellglobal.com  L For personal attention, you may contact Ralph Doncaster at Istop directly at ralph@doncaster.on.ca.  P And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely.  Post it to newsgroups, email it toP people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazinesI that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.      *** APPENDIX ***  P List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years.  This isK only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.t   jfmezei@istop.comt jfmezei.spamnot@istop.coml jfmezei@videotron.ca jfmezei@vl.videotron.car nospam.jfmezei@videotron.cab "jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]   nobody <nobody@nobody.com> nobody <nobody@nobody.net> nobody <nobody@nobody.org> nobody <nobody@nobody.info>h nobody <nobody@nobody.int> nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>u nobody <nobody@null.dev> muklak <muklak@eskimo.net> Sheep skin <sheep@station.au>s# snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>u) Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org>s& Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>$ Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>% Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>  Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>% Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org>'" Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>$ Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>- Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com> ' Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com> " Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org> Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org> ' Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org>e( Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>& Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org> Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org> ' Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org>m% Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>n Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>f! Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>l# Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>l  Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>$ Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>& Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>$ Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>* Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org> Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>! Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>( Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>k$ Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>! Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>f! Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>u  Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>$ Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org> Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>% Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>t% Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>c$ Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org> Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>r& Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>( Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>% Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>y% Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>e& Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>* Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>& Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>' Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org> ' Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org> ( Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>, Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>. Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org> Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>S' Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org> % Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>e$ Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>" Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>& Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org># Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>c( Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>% Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>i" Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>% Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org> & Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>' Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>A) Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>o' Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>c" Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>( Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>, George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>+ Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org> * Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>( Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>' Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>v* Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org> T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>  Q <queue@continuum.net>b Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>* Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>) John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>n  ; *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:47:47 GMTe( From: "~ Darrell  Larose ~" <me@here.eh>& Subject: Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A QH Message-ID: <DuJ9c.10065$ITz1.7405@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  2 "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message2 news:fedc3ff6c1940b29007004fb5561bf72@dizum.com... > FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS >     About'
 > JF MEZEI >. > (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) >t > 1.  Who is JF Mezei? >wI > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hitsL > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the+ > longest running trolls in usenet history.e > G I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JFh; Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:10:15 +1000i' From: ".streetwise" <Reply Group Only@> & Subject: Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q@ Message-ID: <406775a4$0$27643$61ce578d@news.syd.swiftdsl.com.au>  F Doesn't even come close to how many hits google groups bring up on our beloved "Rod Speed"g      2 "~ Darrell Larose ~" <me@here.eh> wrote in messageB news:DuJ9c.10065$ITz1.7405@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...4 | "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message4 | news:fedc3ff6c1940b29007004fb5561bf72@dizum.com... | > FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
 | >     Abouts | > JF MEZEI | >s | > (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) | >l | > 1.  Who is JF Mezei? | >pK | > Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hitdJ | > rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of theo- | > longest running trolls in usenet history.s | >mI | I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JFd= | Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA.l |  |a |    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:57:06 GMTn( From: Phaeton   <spameater@spam.invalid>& Subject: Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q8 Message-ID: <SnL9c.4228$KS1.239126@nasal.pacific.net.au>  5 In comp.os.vms .streetwise <Reply Group Only@> wrote:sH > Doesn't even come close to how many hits google groups bring up on our > beloved "Rod Speed"y  > 	I second that. He is a real pain, he posts a lot in the aus.* 	newsgroups ( as well ). o 							Cheers,  Csabao  J  -------------------------------------------------------------------------H   CSABA I. HARANGOZO  |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|  csabah(at)zipworld(dot)com(dot)auJ  -------------------------------------------------------------------------;    EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]:g    Sattinger's Law :$   It works better if you plug it in.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 03:20:22 GMT@- From: Brad Clarke <screwthespammers@spam.com>c& Subject: Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A Q8 Message-ID: <sf5f60hpssul77m1p0tqj8sbvp8oppoec6@4ax.com>  D On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:47:47 GMT, "~ Darrell  Larose ~" <me@here.eh> wrote:  4 >>"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message4 >>news:fedc3ff6c1940b29007004fb5561bf72@dizum.com... >>> FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
 >>>     About  >>> JF MEZEI >>>o >>> (Rev. Mar. 01, 2004) >>>o >>> 1.  Who is JF Mezei? >>>oK >>> Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hitrN >>> rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups.  He is also one of the- >>> longest running trolls in usenet history.n >>> I >>I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF.= >>Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA.T8 A message to abuse at dizum.com should take care of him.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 04:04:41 GMTr( From: "~ Darrell  Larose ~" <me@here.eh>& Subject: Re: The J F  M e z e i  F A QJ Message-ID: <tfN9c.12533$0b4.7665@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  : "Brad Clarke" <screwthespammers@spam.com> wrote in message2 news:sf5f60hpssul77m1p0tqj8sbvp8oppoec6@4ax.com... >r > J > >I see more posts by Nomen Nescio and all his other nom d`plumes than JF> > >Mezei, I conclude that our cowardly troll is a bigger PITA. >>: > A message to abuse at dizum.com should take care of him.  8 Dizum never has done anything with any abuse complaints.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:37:18 +0200v" From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>Y Subject: This is a Last Mohican fight (was: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipula@- Message-ID: <c48cme$uip$1@biggoron.nerim.net>o   Bob Ceculski wrote:S  B > and what is HP doing to reinforce this brilliant analysis?  They? > continue to do exactly what the analysts do, and that is keep C > quiet about the best os out there ... don't blame the journalistsn; > for the lack of VMS knowledge out there, blame the owner!<  Q The truth is that we are all idealists in here. Why should we fight for truth if oO the "owner" does not want to? What whould this fight bring to us? Glory? Money cM in consulting business, programming or system management? We are all over 50 HJ (well, more or less). Depending on the countries were we live, we'll stop  working in 5 to 10 years time.  # This fight is a Last Mohican fight.o  L I strongly consider giving up with VMS services and purchase a shop where I 0 would sell what Customers need to buy every day.   D.  M (PS: The PS (Socialist Parti) won 20 against 22 regions in France yesterday. e Maybe I should emigrate too...)o   -- .2 VAXUS - Your new helpful friend in the DEC Family!2 EHQ: 19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France/       Phone: +336 7983 6418 Fax: +335 6154 1928Y$                 http://www.vaxus.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:30:35 -0600d@ From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>5 Subject: Re: VMS 7.3-2 operating-system documentation16 Message-ID: <406727DB.FCFD06B1@NeOaSrPtAhMlNiOnWk.net>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:C > ? > In article <c461cf$2mmo$2@biggoron.nerim.net>, Didier Morandin > <no@spam.com> writes:  > [snip] > >e > > What is your concern?t > C > Normally, the VMS volume label is printed on the CD.  For the VMS ) > documentation CD, they do not coincide.   G MOUNT/OVER=ID should take care of that (don't need to know the label toe do the MOUNT as Files-11).   -- s David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:09:59 GMT & From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com>- Subject: Whats Wrong with this Backup Commandt8 Message-ID: <blme605gpridaglke24rko6se5rbcnu014@4ax.com>   All:  4 Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command.  A WHen it runs, it restores all files into the  dka200:[000000.dss]eD directory.  It creates the subdirs but does not put anything in into them  C $Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss]n   Thanks o   Gary   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:58:09 GMTE4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)1 Subject: Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup CommandM- Message-ID: <lEJ9c.26213$K91.73649@attbi_s02>n  a In article <blme605gpridaglke24rko6se5rbcnu014@4ax.com>, G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com> writes:l !All:  !s5 !Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command.I !pB !WHen it runs, it restores all files into the  dka200:[000000.dss]E !directory.  It creates the subdirs but does not put anything in intob !thema ! D !$Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss] !    Hi Gary,  ( You need to render the command this way:  F $Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss...]E                                                                   ^^^ I This will ensure that the subdirectories are created and populated as youf intend.,   !Thanks  !y !Gary  !.  J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own"iK bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' e0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:10:46 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com>S1 Subject: Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Commande( Message-ID: <40676986.30809@bigpond.com>   G Henry espoused:  > All: > 6 > Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command. > C > WHen it runs, it restores all files into the  dka200:[000000.dss]HF > directory.  It creates the subdirs but does not put anything in into > them > E > $Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss]s > 	 > Thanks   >  > Gary   Tryh  > $ backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[*...]   Regards, Dave.- -- eI David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com"I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/aI DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htmoI "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennong   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:28:04 -0600.( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>1 Subject: Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Commandp/ Message-ID: <00A2F883.41633ADE.1@tachysoft.com>i  8 >From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms2 >Subject: Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Command) >Message-ID: <40676986.30809@bigpond.com>,& >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:10:46 +0000. >Organization: Sneddo's all night bar & grille     >G Henry espoused: >> All:  >> s7 >> Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command.o >> eD >> WHen it runs, it restores all files into the  dka200:[000000.dss]G >> directory.  It creates the subdirs but does not put anything in into  >> themi >> nF >> $Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss] >> i
 >> Thanks  >> t >> Garyo >k >Try >n? >$ backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[*...]n    I Being a lazy bastard who types as few characters as possible, I just use x# dka200:[*], which saves three.  :-)   L Either means the same: "restore the exact same file structure that is in the saveset".  tO ===============================================================================aN Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O ===============================================================================sB Jed Clampett, checking into hotel: "This place got a cement pond?", 	Ellie May: "And do yuh let critters in it?"   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:10:43 GMT & From: G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com>1 Subject: Re: Whats Wrong with this Backup Commandl8 Message-ID: <8pte601gbh1bm34erni8flgg1offbeu3fp@4ax.com>  4 Thanks The "..." in the destination did the trick...   Thanks a LOT!!!!   Gary    F On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:58:09 GMT, brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) wrote:  b >In article <blme605gpridaglke24rko6se5rbcnu014@4ax.com>, G Henry <newsgroup@gnshenry.com> writes: >!All: >!6 >!Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command. >!C >!WHen it runs, it restores all files into the  dka200:[000000.dss]eF >!directory.  It creates the subdirs but does not put anything in into >!them >!E >!$Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss]e >! > 	 >Hi Gary,l >t) >You need to render the command this way:e >eG >$Backup mka600:data2.bck/rewind/select=[dss...] dka200:[000000.dss...]dF >                                                                  ^^^J >This will ensure that the subdirectories are created and populated as you >intend. >o	 >!Thanks e >! >!Gary >! >hK >__________________________________________________________________________rB >Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own"L >bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' 1 >                                         with @"k   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:02:43 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> F Subject: RE: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the newsR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2C6AA3@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Cayemberg=20= > [mailto:keith.cayemberg@expires-2004-03-31.arcornews.de]=20  > Sent: March 28, 2004 10:04 AMo > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com D > Subject: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the news >=202 > As already astutely observed by JF Mezei here...F > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D406283A4.9353B557%40istop.com >=20G > now Mr. John McLean has written in The Inquirer about the apparent=20s8 > manipulation of IT News and its moral implications,=20 > especially in the case=20sJ > of the recent HP OpenVMS contract announcement with the U.S. Veterans=20J > Administration which actually pulled up most of the IT stock market. =20 >=20@ > The article is not titled so that one would know it's about=20 > VMS. So, here is=20a > where to find the article. >=20- > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=3D14997i >=20= > Here is Mr. McLean's editorial for those without browser=20o > access to the=20
 > Internet...p >=20) > _How the IT media manipulates the news_  >=203 > Comment Black Widows, Cobol, Fortran and the restn >=20- > By John McLean: Sunday 28 March 2004, 07:45 ? > LAST WEEK there was an interesting example of how the generalv perception of the IT=20 C > industry can be influenced and perhaps even manipulated by the ITh media. >=20   Keith,   Thx for the pointer.=20d  G The article raises some interesting points wrt to the media and vendorstH influence on corporate decision making - even if those decisions are not; necessarily in the best business interests of the Customer.o  D Cobol and FORTRAN are good examples of these "modern" IT writers andG vendors promoting traditional programming practices and technologies asaG being old and legacy. As an example, if today's "modern" IT dept is notiA looking at Web Services (J2EE/.Net), then they are pressured intop: feeling that they are dinosaurs and living in the past.=20  > The reality is that while Web Services certainly has some goodD advantages, regardless of whether you choose J2EE or .Net, it means:  D - adopting object oriented programming concepts and techniques whichH have a huge learning curve for the majority of most IT staff today. ThisC OO learning curve was often given as the reason for AI technologiesn never taking off.o  G - adopting security technologies and stds which are only now *starting*y to become production ready.=20  G - adopting "wrapping" technologies to integrate existing business logic C with the new distributed Web Services object oriented technologies.d? Associated with distributed technologies are network latencies,t> security, management and scaling issues. In addition, wrapping@ technologies do not work well with some business code logic e.g.# screen/terminal IO in routines etc.w  G - throwing out existing code management products and technologies whichdF have 10-15-20+ years of mission / business critical code in them. EvenH more complicated is adopting 2 code mgmt products (old and new) and then< trying to ensure that both are kept in sync with each other.  E - big up front $ investments to address the previous points at a timeh# when IT $'s are actually shrinking.,  F When referring to various OS platforms, the IT media and vendors oftenA use the term "legacy" in a derogatory manner to promote their owniD agenda. By inference, this term is meant to state that while perhapsF serving a useful purpose today, that legacy OS platform or developmentG technology is "obviously" not something that one should look at for new 
 applications.o  F The reality is that *every* OS platform and development technology has legacy versions.=20v  F Microsoft now refers to Windows NT4 as "legacy". Sun refers to Solaris@ V2 environments as "legacy". IBM refers to some of the older MVSG versions as "legacy". HP/Compaq/DEC often refer to OpenVMS Versions 6.2n and older as "legacy".  A However, all of these OS platforms and dev languages now have newLB versions which are certainly capable of developing and running new; applications using both traditional and "new" technologies.a  E Imho, the lack of understanding of what "legacy" really means and the>A issues associated with the new technologies are key concepts thataH unfortunately many IT writers do not understand. It is why these same ITF writers fail to understand why many new applications are being written6 in traditional languages such as Cobol and FORTRAN.=20  E A few good references which adds some reality back into the equation:.  3 http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1237807,00.aspa4 "Is COBOL the 18-Wheeler of the Web?" [May 19, 2003]? "Legacy Reserves, a databank for over-35 IT pros, cites GartnervA estimates that retirement and death will shrink the population ofyG working COBOL coders by 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, even while 15 F percent of all new applications are being written in the language--and> quotes the GIGA Group as predicting that "The most highly paidG programmers in the next ten years are going to be COBOL programmers whoo# know the Internet." [snip..see url]a  H http://www.computerworld.com/careertopics/careers/training/story/0,10801 ,60683,00.html? "Remember Cobol? If You Don't, Get Reacquainted" [May 21, 2001]oH "Dale Vecchio, research director at Gartner Inc., says there are roughlyG 180 billion lines of Cobol worldwide. This isn't surprising, given thatnC Cobol has been around for more than 40 years. What is surprising isvE Gartner's comment in a February research note stating that 15% of allnG new application functionality through 2005 will be in Cobol." [snip ...d See url]  F I suspect that, overall, the IT budgets of most companies are going to= continue to shrink as the world is increasingly becoming verylG competitive. This means that companies will no longer be able to affordeC to constantly be looking at the greener pastures outlined by the ITy media and vendors.=20s  E Instead, Customers will increasingly be asking "how can I better maker0 use of my *existing* technology investments?"=20  A [note that "existing" is a much better term to use than "legacy"]t  G Imho, those vendors that recognize this trend will be the ones who will< capitalize in the future.l   Regardsa  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660i Fax: 613-591-4477  Email: kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcome. (remove the DOT's and AT for email address)=20   ------------------------------    Date: 28 Mar 2004 19:55:30 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)F Subject: Re: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the news= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0403281955.1f352d22@posting.google.com>    "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> wrote in message news:<FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB2C6AA3@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>...R > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Keith Cayemberg = > > [mailto:keith.cayemberg@expires-2004-03-31.arcornews.de] s! > > Sent: March 28, 2004 10:04 AMg > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com.F > > Subject: [On-Topic]Inquirer: How the IT media manipulates the news > > 4 > > As already astutely observed by JF Mezei here...F > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=406283A4.9353B557%40istop.com > > G > > now Mr. John McLean has written in The Inquirer about the apparent -8 > > manipulation of IT News and its moral implications,  > > especially in the case cJ > > of the recent HP OpenVMS contract announcement with the U.S. Veterans J > > Administration which actually pulled up most of the IT stock market.   > > @ > > The article is not titled so that one would know it's about  > > VMS. So, here is m > > where to find the article. > > - > > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14997s > G > Imho, the lack of understanding of what "legacy" really means and theJC > issues associated with the new technologies are key concepts that J > unfortunately many IT writers do not understand. It is why these same ITH > writers fail to understand why many new applications are being written6 > in traditional languages such as Cobol and FORTRAN.  > H > I suspect that, overall, the IT budgets of most companies are going to? > continue to shrink as the world is increasingly becoming very I > competitive. This means that companies will no longer be able to afford E > to constantly be looking at the greener pastures outlined by the ITA > media and vendors. i > G > Instead, Customers will increasingly be asking "how can I better makea0 > use of my *existing* technology investments?"  > C > [note that "existing" is a much better term to use than "legacy"]d > I > Imho, those vendors that recognize this trend will be the ones who willa > capitalize in the future.   @ and what is HP doing to reinforce this brilliant analysis?  They= continue to do exactly what the analysts do, and that is keep/A quiet about the best os out there ... don't blame the journalistsi9 for the lack of VMS knowledge out there, blame the owner!    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:06:45 +0200 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>6 Subject: Re: [OT] Outlook 2003 efficiency against spam- Message-ID: <c47ep5$dun$1@biggoron.nerim.net>i   Tom Linden wrote:a  L > I take it that means you are still receiving that number daily, or was the# > amount by which it was reduced?     Q Yep. 50/80 is my average amount of incoming spam to my good old account @free.fr s/ that I used in plain text in forums since ages.d  0 > Do you still get spam that it fails to detect?  P I have 4 to 5 real spam a day which are not detected, and I'm currently working ? on comparisons to try to understand why they were not detected.a   > How about viruses?  P I do not open attachments that do not come from identified sources and... I run O Kaspersky since a few weeks and Kaspersky is to me the best antivirus ever. It .* has a daily update and catches EVERYTHING.  ( (Yes, Barry, I'm a Kaspersy reseller :-)   D.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.174 ************************