1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 28 May 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 294       Contents: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT? . Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A?. Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A?8 Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system8 Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system+ Re: DECnet dynamic objects - PID of process ! HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 + Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals + Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals  KZPBA and AlphaStation 200? 1 More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 6 One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail: Re: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail( OT:  Humor- latest bogus Microsoft email0 Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcamp4 Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcamp Re: ssh on TCP/IP 5.4 & Re: VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI-V0600.DCX_AXPEXE [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  RE: [LINUX]  RE: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX]  RE: [LINUX] > [More]: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail> [More]: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mailP [OT]: 64-bit Windows virus found - 64-bit OpenVMS not offered as alternative by P Re: [OT]: 64-bit Windows virus found - 64-bit OpenVMS not offered as alternative& Re: [perso] Farewell to my VMS Friends& Re: [perso] Farewell to my VMS Friends; [TCPIP V5.4 ECO1] Problem with sftp - Username in Lowercase   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:45:17 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?+ Message-ID: <40B68B9D.A4032C42@comcast.net>    Ferry Bolhar wrote:  >  > Hi,  > J > I encountered a strange problem on one of our system, a MicroVAX 3100-955 > running OpenVMS V6.2. Yes, I know, it's old, but...  > L > On this system, sometimes, started batch queues goes to stopped. A look in > the OPERATOR.LOG shows this: > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  26-MAY-2004 11:33:41.85  %%%%%%%%%%%) > Message from user JOB_CONTROL on MLERC4 > > %JBC-E-FAILCREPRC, job controller could not create a process > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  26-MAY-2004 11:33:41.86  %%%%%%%%%%%) > Message from user JOB_CONTROL on MLERC4 $ > -SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT, no PCB available > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  26-MAY-2004 11:33:41.87  %%%%%%%%%%%* > Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on MLERC4K > %QMAN-E-CREPRCSTOP, failed to create a batch process, queue PEM_APP$BATCH  > will be stopped  > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  26-MAY-2004 11:33:41.87  %%%%%%%%%%%* > Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on MLERC4C > -QMAN-I-QUEAUTOOFF, queue PEM_APP$BATCH is now autostart inactive  > A > Well, and now comes the strange - SHOW MEMORY/SLOTS shows this:  > B >               System Memory Resources on 26-MAY-2004 11:39:13.40 > N > Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     SwappedN >   Process Entry Slots                540         190         350           0D >   Balance Set Slots                   404           56         348 > 0  > M > As you can see, there are may process slots free. Nevertheless, even when I ( > try a SPAWN, i get the NOSLOT message. > E > What happens here? What does the NOSLOT message actually mean? What  > can I do to prevent this?  >  > MTIA and kind greetings,  A Use MONITOR SYSTEM/INT=2 and notice the total number of processes 0 displayed in the right-hand corner near the top.  D Now, use SYSGEN, SYSMAN or F$GETSYI() to display your MAXPROCESSCNT.   Notice any discrepancies?    D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:17:49 -0500 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)7 Subject: Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A? 1 Message-ID: <04052714174958@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   D > We are looking for OpenVMS/Alpha compatible 3rd party SCSI "brick"E > drive model recommendations that have 18 or 36G capacity and run at 
 > 15K RPM. > @ > We would like to use drives from the HP Storageworks division,= > alas they only offer 15KRPM drive in a universal "flavour".  > ? > Something like the Seagate Cheetah ST318453LC would be ideal.  > G > (We're looking at non-universal drives because we're configuring used G > entry-level Alpha server nodes w/low-cost external storage enclosures 7 > - they have no option for internal universal drives).  > 9 > Purchasing universal drives and them disassembling them : > (which would void the warranty) seems to be a poor idea. > C > Any positive experiences, or horror stories with lessons learned?   N If you mean the Storage Works SBB (Storage Building Block) then I beleive that you are out of luck.   From what I understand:   I 1) The SBB does not have the heat dispersion properties required for 15K.   O 2) The SBB does not have a secure enough locking mechanism to keep the drive in  place during operation.        J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2004 03:08:28 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com 7 Subject: Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A? + Message-ID: <c96afc0b89@enews3.newsguy.com>   ) John Brandon <brandon@dalsemi.com> wrote: D > If you mean the Storage Works SBB (Storage Building Block) then I " > beleive tha you are out of luck.  L I'm not totally sure what the original poster is looking for.  I kind of gotL the impression he's looking for 3rd party JBOD.  One thing I couldn't figure) out is if he wants SCSI or Fibre Channel.   K I recently got a couple old Andataco JBOD enclosures for my VMS system so I D can use some 18GB 1.6" SCA drives that turned up.  They're very niceK enclosures, a bit louder than the BA350 they replace, but since I went from ( 4GB Drives to 18GB drives, who cares :^)   		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 00:18:48 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>A Subject: Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system * Message-ID: <2hn7q9Feri1iU1@uni-berlin.de>   VAXman- wrote: > FYI, > G > I have just downloaded a demo copy of a X11 server called eXodus from  > Powerlan-USA.COM.    > G > Very nice and I was able to fire up my CDE environment from the Alpha H > to my PowerBook!  Price is not as cheap as the version that comes withH > Panther but at $270 (and it works!) I'm very tempted to purchase it if: > I can get a longer demo period than the default 10 mins. >   H Well I might spring for a proper solution like that if only I could get H my ex-employer to fill out a bit of paperwork which enables me to claim : money I am entitled to while I am looking for another job.   Sorry to go off topic... but...   H PS - for those who remember who my end client was for the last 6 years, 2 that was _NOT_ the company I am complaining about.   ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2004 01:56:30 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com A Subject: Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system , Message-ID: <c9668e01qg5@enews4.newsguy.com>  + Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> wrote: J > Most things I've used it with display OK.In a recent discussion over on F > comp.sys.mac.system someone claimed that the most recent version of I > iTerm had been cleaned up a lot. He said he saw some display junk when  I > using Notes on VMS, but I haven't seen that. The display in EDIT/TPU's  K > help set keypad when pressing any of the keypad keys is the only problem   > I've seen so far.   K > Now the acid test - VTTEST from Thomas Dickey's site. No suprise that it  I > doesn't get double height or width correct, and dark/light backgrounds  D > are reversed, which probably explains the help set keypad problem.  I Only a couple apps can handle double height or width correctly.  I really I want to buy a copy of dataComet-Secure, as it's only $60, and it seems to L offer *excellent* support for VMS based on the time I spent playing with the demo.   J > > I've resorted to changing the .modmap for X-Windows and using an xtermP > > (Apple really messed up the xterm, as you can't remap keys for just a single > > xterm).  > >   ) > Have you managed to get xterm to paste?   G No problem at all, I couldn't live without that :^)  Or are you talking I about between Mac OS X and X-Windows?  That I believe is a problem, but I  don't remember the specifics.    			Zane    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:32:36 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> 4 Subject: Re: DECnet dynamic objects - PID of process= Message-ID: <Efstc.4490$1_1.42673346@news-text.cableinet.net>   H You need to be looking at the SESSION CONTROL PORT and corresponding OSIK TRANSPORT PORT / NSP PORT to get the per process information. It's all good ; stuff - and way better than NCP once you've got used to it.   H This might help - it's an extract from something I'm writing. There's an: earlier version at  http://www.xdelta.co.uk/seminarss.html      : Commonly useful entities in the NCL command hierarchy are:  L         Implementation  this refers to the Phase V implementation name and version   =         Node  this refers to the local node addressing data   J         Session control application  this refers to a network object (to use Phase IV terminology).  J         Session control port  this refers to the actual software link toK the given application. One of the values will be the corresponding NSP port E / OSI transport port (see below), another will be the OpenVMS process J identifier of the active process. This is how you start to track down whatA process is passing what amount of network traffic to which nodes.   4         Routing  this refers to the routing layer.  I         Routing circuit  this refers to a path available to the routing A layer over a CSMACD station or DDCMP / HDLC link logical station.   D         NSP  this refers to the Phase IV Network Services Protocol transport layer.  @         OSI transport  this refers to the OSI transport layer.  K         OSI transport template  this refers to the template available for F use by the OSI transport layer. The two main templates are RFC1006 andC RFC1006Plus (RFC1869) which implement the interface between the OSI E transport layer and the TCP/IP ports 102 and 399 by means of the PWIP I driver. This enables TCP/IP to be used as part of the transport layer for 1 both OSI and DECnet communications between nodes.   K         NSP port / OSI transport port  this refers to the actual software J link over the given transport. Most useful to see what traffic (if any) isJ passing over a specific software connection. One of the values will be the/ corresponding session control port (see above).   K         DDCMP / HDLC link  this refers to a link using a port for a given H protocol. DDCMP is the Digital Data Communications Message Protocol usedL over asynchronous serial line (not supported on VAX by Phase V). HDLC is theF High-level Data Link Control protocol, generally used over synchronous serial line or frame relay.   J         DDCMP / HDLC link xxx Logical station  this refers to a specificL connection over a link. It is introduced to cater for multi-drop links whereJ a point to point link is a special case of a multi-drop link, e.g.: RS449.  I         Modem connect line  this refers to the physical connection of a F port used for DDCMP, HDLC or similar protocol. It is not applicable to
 CSMA/CD LANs.   E         CSMACD station  this refers to a LAN adapter. CSMACD is the J Collision Sense, Multiple Access, Collision Detect LAN protocol. CSMACD isG the generalised mechanism that includes LAN protocols such as Ethernet.   9         DTSS  this refers to the DTSS server and clerk.   G         MOP  this refers to the MOP (Maintenance Operations Protocol) / database for downloading boot images over LANs.   H NCL also permits constructs such as with, which allows very powerful and useful commands such as:  A Show session control port * with process identifier = pid_value   L This type of construct can be applied to almost all NCL commands, so you can@ rapidly start experimenting to find useful commands for your ownL circumstances. For example, try to find all currently available nodes on theD LAN by asking the nearest router what active end systems it can see.     --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk L Systems Archaeologist - Investigation & troubleshooting of older systems and	 networks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:31:01 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>* Subject: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004- Message-ID: <40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost>   C Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with  
 VMS cheap:  F "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is F making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  of $2000 USD."  @ You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program D (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  $2000 for the box.  $ More info at (sorry about the wrap):  F http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 0.html    # Should I spend a few K to do this?? 
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:37:27 +0000 7 From: David B Sneddon - bigpond <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004* Message-ID: <40B6C207.2090409@bigpond.com>  ' Stanley F. Quayle mentioned in passing: E > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with   > VMS cheap: > H > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is H > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > of $2000 USD." > B > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program F > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > $2000 for the box. > & > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > H > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 > 0.html >  > % > Should I spend a few K to do this??  > --Stan Quayle    Stan,   @ We recently (a few days ago) received two rx1600 boxes availableH under a similar deal here in au.  The base box was just under AUD $3000.E This only had one 36GB disk and 521MB of memory.  We upped the memory D to 2GB and added an extra 36GB disk and a DVD-ROM/CD-RW -- total wasB AUD $5500.  It is a reasonably cheap box to start work on porting.   Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:28:31 -0700 % From: OrionCA <orionca@earthlink.net> 4 Subject: Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals8 Message-ID: <v9gcb053fbcqr876d84ncls12qnafqc9ph@4ax.com>  D On Wed, 26 May 2004 18:16:50 -0700, "Matt" <somewhere@somewhere.com> wrote:  I >> Bush lovers represent all of the people who should have been culled at  >> birth, but weren't. >> > K >Thanks for that intelligent commentary.  You obviously put a lot of though  >into that insult.  E Yes, as he can't debate intelligently he wants to kill his opponents.   Sounds like an Al Qaeda wannabe. --1 Randi Rhodes, Air America radio host, suggesting  + President Bush's assassination to a caller:     6 R: "Yeah.. take him out and you know "Hail Mary, full 5 of grace, God is with ou-" [Randi makes the sound of   a blast] ... Works for me."   P TITLE 18 Sec. 871. - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency     1 (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for  2 conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any 1 post office or by any letter carrier any letter,  6 paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing1 any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to  5 inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United  3 States, the President-elect, the Vice President or  1 other officer next in the order of succession to  1 the office of President of the United States, or  5 the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully  6 otherwise makes any such threat against the President,5 President-elect, Vice President or other officer next 6 in the order of succession to the office of President,3 or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this  7 title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:28:53 -0700 % From: OrionCA <orionca@earthlink.net> 4 Subject: Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals8 Message-ID: <dbgcb0tu3qt6f4mgpvc26271gpsace91qo@4ax.com>  0 On Thu, 27 May 2004 02:13:27 GMT, "newsnewsnews" <testing_tests@shaw.ca> wrote:  K >> > Bush lovers represent all of the people who should have been culled at  >> > birth, but weren't. >> > >>M >> Thanks for that intelligent commentary.  You obviously put a lot of though  >> into that insult. >> >> Matt  > M >It doesn't require alot of thought to think about something bad to say about 
 >an american.    Lucky for you. --1 Randi Rhodes, Air America radio host, suggesting  + President Bush's assassination to a caller:     6 R: "Yeah.. take him out and you know "Hail Mary, full 5 of grace, God is with ou-" [Randi makes the sound of   a blast] ... Works for me."   P TITLE 18 Sec. 871. - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency     1 (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for  2 conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any 1 post office or by any letter carrier any letter,  6 paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing1 any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to  5 inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United  3 States, the President-elect, the Vice President or  1 other officer next in the order of succession to  1 the office of President of the United States, or  5 the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully  6 otherwise makes any such threat against the President,5 President-elect, Vice President or other officer next 6 in the order of succession to the office of President,3 or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this  7 title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.     ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2004 03:28:12 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com $ Subject: KZPBA and AlphaStation 200?+ Message-ID: <c96bkc0283@enews1.newsguy.com>   L My DEC PWS 433au is dying a slow death, and the end is rapidly approaching. E Originally it needed a powercycle to reboot, then about a year ago, I H discovered that the PCI slot that the SCSI controller was in had totallyE died, once I moved the SCSI controller it was happy.  Then recently I L discovered that it no longer sees any memory besides that in the first bank,J and it will occasionally crash (Java *always* crashes it now), and today IH discover that trying to send to much network traffic at it crashes it as well.   J So, it's time to see about replacing it.  A good temp replacement would beE my old AlphaStation 500/333, but with only 96MB RAM, I don't see that G happening.  OTOH, I have an AlphaStation 200 4/233 with 768MB RAM and a L DE500.  My question is, can I move the SCSI card from the PWS to the AS200? J That way I can just reconfigure the network, and keep chugging along (even( if it will be at a painfully slow rate).  K In the long run I'll replace the PWS either with another PWS, or an XP1000.    		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:42:32 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> : Subject: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"' Message-ID: <40B660C8.1040206@MMaz.com>   ) Good new bullets in May "Processor" rags:   0 *Intel Cancels Two Chips* *Due To Power Problem*  H Intel canceled two major microprocessors and switched its fundamental=20E design strategy, possibly making it vulnerable to competition. The=20 G company said it would cancel the chips that were due out in 2004 and=20 I 2005, reportedly because small gains in performance now come at a huge=20 G cost in power consumption. Intel said it would switch to putting two=20 I processors on a single chip. Those chips are due in 2005, but analysts=20 J worried that the result might be a gap in Intel=92s product line, opening= =20 F opportunities to Sun Microsystems, IBM, and Advanced Micro Devices.=20B Intel would not detail the financial implications of the decision.    ( *AMD Promises** Dual-Core Chips By 2005*  K At its annual meeting, chipmaker Advanced Micro Devices said it plans to=20 I come out with a dual-core version of its Opteron microprocessor in the=20 D second half of 2005. The move will put pressure on rival Intel to=20F increase the performance of its chips, as the Opteron already beats=20I Intel=92s fastest 32-bit chips. The Opteron can process data in either=20 J 32-bit or 64-bit chunks, and it has started taking share from Intel=92s=20 server microprocessors.   E Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad for=20 J Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic.= .      Barry    --=20   > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                       =20    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:17:39 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR", Message-ID: <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>  6 "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message! news:40B660C8.1040206@MMaz.com... ) Good new bullets in May "Processor" rags:   0 *Intel Cancels Two Chips* *Due To Power Problem*  E Intel canceled two major microprocessors and switched its fundamental B design strategy, possibly making it vulnerable to competition. TheD company said it would cancel the chips that were due out in 2004 andF 2005, reportedly because small gains in performance now come at a hugeD cost in power consumption. Intel said it would switch to putting twoF processors on a single chip. Those chips are due in 2005, but analystsG worried that the result might be a gap in Intels product line, opening C opportunities to Sun Microsystems, IBM, and Advanced Micro Devices. B Intel would not detail the financial implications of the decision.    ( *AMD Promises** Dual-Core Chips By 2005*  H At its annual meeting, chipmaker Advanced Micro Devices said it plans toF come out with a dual-core version of its Opteron microprocessor in theA second half of 2005. The move will put pressure on rival Intel to C increase the performance of its chips, as the Opteron already beats D Intels fastest 32-bit chips. The Opteron can process data in eitherE 32-bit or 64-bit chunks, and it has started taking share from Intels  server microprocessors.   B Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forJ Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic..    / They can always release Alpha EV8 instead.  ;-)    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2004 21:37:46 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"3 Message-ID: <WIZ7YXYwwDFy@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes:   > D > Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forL > Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic.. >   D 	Yeah.  And then financial reality sets in.  AMD cleared $60 millionF 	last quarter, Intel cleared $2.5 billion last quarter.  Profits equal< 	to twice AMD's revenues.  Maybe Intel shovels an extra $100* 	million to Itanium just for good measure?   > 1 > They can always release Alpha EV8 instead.  ;-)  >   8 	I'm assuming you are trumpeting an inherent performance> 	advantage?  If Intel deliver's on "twice" Madison performance+ 	for Montecito, that's a very powerful CPU.    				Rob    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:16:11 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"' Message-ID: <40B6CB1B.6050209@MMaz.com>    Rob Young wrote:  S >In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes:  >  >    > D >>Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forL >>Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic.. >> >>     >> > E >	Yeah.  And then financial reality sets in.  AMD cleared $60 million G >	last quarter, Intel cleared $2.5 billion last quarter.  Profits equal = >	to twice AMD's revenues.  Maybe Intel shovels an extra $100 + >	million to Itanium just for good measure?  >    > I Not one for David and Goliath stories?  The same arguments could be said  I about pitting Dell against IBM years past, but if you find the right mix  ? at the right time and run with it, well anything is possible...    Barry    --    > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028                            ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:34:08 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ? Subject: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail , Message-ID: <zaWdnUDOPvKfFCvdRVn-hQ@igs.net>   -----Original Message-----) From:   President & CEO, Eckhard Pfeiffer + Sent:   Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:10 PM , Subject:        Compaq's commitment to Alpha To:     All Employees   2 Info Type:  Business / Process Related Information Action Req:  No   I During the past week, Compaq took several significant steps to underscore I our commitment to Alpha and to extend our leadership in 64-bit computing.   B We announced a series of initiatives with Microsoft to enhance theF availability and scalability of Windows NT, and to give Windows NT and; 64-bit DIGITAL UNIX the highest levels of interoperability.   F We also announced that future generations of Tandem's NonStop HimalayaF servers would use the Alpha microprocessor.  And we announced that theJ official China National Computer Software & Technology Service Corporation= has chosen DIGITAL UNIX as the basis for China's 64-bit UNIX.   K These initiatives are critical elements of our plan to fully leverage Alpha J and the competitive advantages it gives us in key segments of the market -C such as data warehousing, enterprise applications, high-performance E technical computing and the Internet.  We are committed to delivering H high-volume, 64-bit systems and solutions based on Alpha and, when it is available, on Merced.   C Compaq already has a substantial lead over our competitors.  As the J reference platform for 64-bit Windows NT, Alpha is the only processor thatK can run 64-bit UNIX and 64-bit Windows NT today.  Since DIGITAL UNIX is the G only UNIX that allows customers to develop applications compatible with L 64-bit Windows NT, it enables them to safely invest in Alpha systems now. WeH expect Alpha to be the highest performance architecture for at least the next decade and beyond.   H The decision to use Alpha in future generations of Himalaya servers alsoE underscores our commitment to NonStop Computing.  With NSK and 64-bit K DIGITAL OpenVMS, Compaq has the best business-critical operating systems on E the market.  That is a competitive advantage that we must continue to  reinforce with customers.   D Alpha is an essential part of Compaq's enterprise strategy.  We willL continue to invest in Alpha and the Alpha brand, in 64-bit operating systemsH and in software partnerships that have already produced more than 11,000I 64-bit applications.  These are not just investments in technology.  They I are investments in our customers, whose need for high-performance, highly H available and highly reliable computing solutions is only going to grow.  I With Alpha, Compaq is in the strongest position to meet those needs. I am J asking each of you to help ensure that we clearly communicate this message to all our customers. (                                 Regards,'                                 Eckhard   7 Distributed by Reader's Choice http://webrc.das.dec.com  <http://webrc.das.dec.com>   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:10:17 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> C Subject: Re: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail ' Message-ID: <40B6C9B9.8070603@MMaz.com>    John Smith wrote:    >-----Original Message----- * >From:   President & CEO, Eckhard Pfeiffer, >Sent:   Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:10 PM- >Subject:        Compaq's commitment to Alpha  >To:     All Employees > 3 >Info Type:  Business / Process Related Information  >Action Req:  No > J >During the past week, Compaq took several significant steps to underscoreJ >our commitment to Alpha and to extend our leadership in 64-bit computing. > C >We announced a series of initiatives with Microsoft to enhance the G >availability and scalability of Windows NT, and to give Windows NT and < >64-bit DIGITAL UNIX the highest levels of interoperability. > G >We also announced that future generations of Tandem's NonStop Himalaya G >servers would use the Alpha microprocessor.  And we announced that the K >official China National Computer Software & Technology Service Corporation > >has chosen DIGITAL UNIX as the basis for China's 64-bit UNIX. >    > H Oops, so did China steal the technology, get it for a steal, or get left out to dry?   L >These initiatives are critical elements of our plan to fully leverage AlphaK >and the competitive advantages it gives us in key segments of the market - D >such as data warehousing, enterprise applications, high-performanceF >technical computing and the Internet.  We are committed to deliveringI >high-volume, 64-bit systems and solutions based on Alpha and, when it is  >available, on Merced. > D >Compaq already has a substantial lead over our competitors.  As theK >reference platform for 64-bit Windows NT, Alpha is the only processor that L >can run 64-bit UNIX and 64-bit Windows NT today.  Since DIGITAL UNIX is theH >only UNIX that allows customers to develop applications compatible withM >64-bit Windows NT, it enables them to safely invest in Alpha systems now. We I >expect Alpha to be the highest performance architecture for at least the  >next decade and beyond. > I >The decision to use Alpha in future generations of Himalaya servers also F >underscores our commitment to NonStop Computing.  With NSK and 64-bitL >DIGITAL OpenVMS, Compaq has the best business-critical operating systems onF >the market.  That is a competitive advantage that we must continue to >reinforce with customers. > E >Alpha is an essential part of Compaq's enterprise strategy.  We will M >continue to invest in Alpha and the Alpha brand, in 64-bit operating systems I >and in software partnerships that have already produced more than 11,000 J >64-bit applications.  These are not just investments in technology.  TheyJ >are investments in our customers, whose need for high-performance, highlyI >available and highly reliable computing solutions is only going to grow.  >    > H Hum, some how this warm and fuzzy doesn't seem to be conveyed today when+ all we get to look forward to, is Itanic...   J >With Alpha, Compaq is in the strongest position to meet those needs. I amK >asking each of you to help ensure that we clearly communicate this message  >to all our customers.) >                                Regards, ( >                                Eckhard >  >    > E Less than five years ago, and the double-speak from Compaq since this D memo, and then HP, they sure killed Alpha, NT 64, and Tru64 fast andF probably would have put a fork into VMS if they could have profited inG the short-term - Either Eckhard was talking out his back-side, or other D agendas rapidly developed when Curley took the top post and sold outH Alpha and Compaq, to Intel & HP...  It is really hard to believe that so0 much has changed in such a short period of time.   Barrym   -- D  > Barry Treahy, Jr                       E-mail: Treahy@MMaz.com> Midwest Microwave                          Phone: 480/314-1320> Vice President & CIO                         FAX: 480/661-7028   ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2004 12:40:30 -07002 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)1 Subject: OT:  Humor- latest bogus Microsoft emailo< Message-ID: <bf98c417.0405271140.1e10d07@posting.google.com>  J I got a poorly crafted bogus Microsoft "Latest Net Patch" email yesterday.   Seq       1    	# Time/Date 05/26/2004 04:41:39 pm  	 - Sender    MS Corporation Public Assistance  	g  ' Subject   {Filename?} Current Net PatchM Size      16KB 	  - When I saw "MS Corporation Public Assistance"e  O I thought "At last, welfare has been privatized by somebody who can afford it."7   ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2004 22:17:37 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)L9 Subject: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcampn3 Message-ID: <fm0YGUtZsUTy@eisner.encompasserve.org>   < Since this happened in the hall, I presume it is not covered  by the non-disclosure agreement.  F At registration we got a "thing" that says "hp certified professional"C and has a fuzzy top like a duster, two eyes, a beak and a body thina? enough to make it susceptible to falling over.  My wife says it  resembles the Roadrunner.i   What is it ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:13:46 -0400-- From: "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com>1= Subject: Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcampu, Message-ID: <40b6cbae$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:fm0YGUtZsUTy@eisner.encompasserve.org...e> > Since this happened in the hall, I presume it is not covered" > by the non-disclosure agreement. >iH > At registration we got a "thing" that says "hp certified professional"E > and has a fuzzy top like a duster, two eyes, a beak and a body thin:A > enough to make it susceptible to falling over.  My wife says itJ > resembles the Roadrunner.e >o > What is it ?  ? A keyboard duster! (Honestly!) And whatever else tickles you...%   Cheers,s Hein.m   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC)%6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: ssh on TCP/IP 5.41 Message-ID: <newscache$29ydyh$ph41$1@news.sil.at>h  l In article <40b123fa$0$25323$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Tony Arnold <tony.arnold@man.ac.uk> writes:I >I set the server_debug logical to 3 (not found what values this logical  G >can take yet) and it produced lots of debug messages in the .log file t2 >you refer to above. The last few lines of it are:  I I've a lot of debug messages in the log, without having the debug logical(C defined. So better start without, then define (and raise) it to see  a/the difference...   > >Received signal 10, SIGBUS: invalid access to memory objects.7 >%TCPIP-F-SSH_FATAL, non-specific fatal error condition   @ That sound a lot more interesting. From the ECO 1 release notes:    H         - The pairing of username and UIC in the sysuaf, as displayed byI           SHOW/IDENTIFIER must match that in the user account record.  If G           there is a mismatch, the following error occurs when the user2/           attempts to establish an SSH session:a  G           Received signal 10, SIGBUS: invalid access to memory objects.G  L           The workaround is to correct the pairing of username and UIC value           in the sysuaf.   HIH    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER0% Network and OpenVMS system specialistr E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:36:55 GMT / From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@spyderbyte.com>h/ Subject: Re: VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI-V0600.DCX_AXPEXE 9 Message-ID: <b4utc.48$Ef3.88958@twister.southeast.rr.com>v  K I  wasn't offended.  :)  I just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong on myo% end as far as getting the alerts out.5   Kenl  5 -----------------------------------------------------s Kenneth R. Farmer <><i1 http://www.OpenVMS.org  |  http://dcl.OpenVMS.orgs      C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in messages* news:newscache$4ae4yh$c6g$1@news.sil.at...H > In article <QjJrc.60328$jU.3871831@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Kenneth( Farmer" <kfarmer@spyderbyte.com> writes:K > >What do you mean by "If the patch notification would reliably work"?  Is ; > >something wrong on my end or are you talking about ITRC?r >u3 > Sorry to offend you but I was talking about ITRC.d > E > Currently I don't rely on ITRC notifications because (I get my mostB5 > private ones and) I check the FTP (almost) daily...p >e > -- i > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:24:24 +0200K" From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> Subject: [LINUX]. Message-ID: <c95ii7$1de2$2@biggoron.nerim.net>  F I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to ' swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.u  
 Any clues?   Thanks   -- u D. aka <GCP>_Leaderp    ;   Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !" ;   HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256e;   RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors! -                http://www.ravenshield-gcp.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:05:52 -0400l( From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com> Subject: Re: [LINUX]* Message-ID: <40b6596c@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  G > I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to4) > swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.s >e > Any clues?  $ Yeah, get an Intel box to run Linux.  E Alphas are meant to run (Hobbiest) OpenVMS (or Tru64 if you have to).   K I like Alphas, but I'm not about to create a constant streams of hurdles inr my life and run Linux on one.nL You are doing this to learn re-usable technical skills no? Not just to prove is can be done no?J How valuabable will it be for future business opportunities to know how to dual boot an Alpha? I Or how usefull will it be to run (barebones?) Linux on it and how to findd! any and all missing drivers/rpm'se> Wow, you'll be able to use native 'vi' on your alpha. Whoopee!  K Sorry if sound too sarcastic. I'm sure it'll be 'neat' to have Linux on the  Alpha.  I Oh... btw... you know what i did in my weekend? reloaded Linux on a fresh.D 120GB drive in my CD player, and installed Apache and an MP3 servingG package, doing 'vi /etc/smb.conf' and fun stuff like that. So now I can-J stream MP3 from my CD player/Jukebox to any PC and use the CD player as anF 'always on' file server.  Next taks: a cddb or freedb (perl) script to< post-associated already ripped, but nameless, CDs with their! album/artits/track info. Whoopee!w   :-)    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC)p? From: Graham Burley <burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org>  Subject: Re: [LINUX]9 Message-ID: <40B66D57.6F108713@encompasserve-or-this.org>n   Didier Morandi wrote:e >   " That was the shortest farewell ...    G > I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to ) > swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.s >  > Any clues?  2 Don't do it! Do not do that which you contemplate.  F Get your Hobbyist NOTES kit loaded, create your own .Net and C# MinuteG of the Day conferences, and keep DCL to hand for when you need/want it.l  
 Best regards,      Graham   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:43:56 -0700s# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>e Subject: RE: [LINUX]9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEBHDFAA.tom@kednos.com>   C Well, now that you have gone over to the dark side you will have tox get on axp-list@redhat.com:-)u  A I have Debian and Redhat on a couple of Alphas and they are quite B impressive, you can even run emacs in single-user mode.  You can't8 run it VMS:-(  at least nothing of in the last 10 years!       -----Original Message-----+   From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]o&   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:24 PM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com-   Subject: [LINUX]      H   I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to )   swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.e      Any clues?      Thanks      -- 9   D. aka <GCP>_Leadert      =     Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !"a=     HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256p=     RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors! /                  http://www.ravenshield-gcp.orgl      --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004:    --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004n   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 17:46:44 -0700r# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>l Subject: RE: [LINUX]9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIOEBHDFAA.tom@kednos.com>      -----Original Message-----H   From: Graham Burley [mailto:burley.not-this@encompasserve-or-this.org]&   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:37 PM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com    Subject: Re: [LINUX]         Didier Morandi wrote:w   >    $   That was the shortest farewell ...      I   > I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to +   > swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.C   >    > Any clues?   4   Don't do it! Do not do that which you contemplate.   H   Get your Hobbyist NOTES kit loaded, create your own .Net and C# MinuteI   of the Day conferences, and keep DCL to hand for when you need/want it.o  I Many great musical works were in the key of C# (minor to be exact) but its# is not suitable for writing code:-)e      Best regards,P         Graham      --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004e    ---o& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:51:12 -0500n2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [LINUX]+ Message-ID: <40B68CFF.DCCBCF8E@comcast.net>   Didier Morandi wrote:i > G > I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images tos) > swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.l >  > Any clues?  " comp.os.linux.alpha may be useful.   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:57:19 GMTr, From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> Subject: Re: [LINUX], Message-ID: <30xtc.19856$eT4.8660@attbi_s54>  J Forgot to add.  LINUX and UNIX are similar to VMS.  Just like baseball andH cricket are.  Both are played with a ball and there the similarity ends. ;-)t   Dave...s  7 "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> wrote in messageM% news:3Zwtc.1916$pt3.1047@attbi_s03...aH > Also running Debian on an Alpha for about a year now.  Little trouble. >NK > Security stuff about once a week though.  Something that you need to keepL up > with.C >C	 > Dave...e >a0 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message5 > news:NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEBHDFAA.tom@kednos.com... G > > Well, now that you have gone over to the dark side you will have toO! > > get on axp-list@redhat.com:-)d > >aE > > I have Debian and Redhat on a couple of Alphas and they are quitehF > > impressive, you can even run emacs in single-user mode.  You can't< > > run it VMS:-(  at least nothing of in the last 10 years! > >p > >c  > >   -----Original Message-----/ > >   From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]i* > >   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:24 PM > >   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > >   Subject: [LINUX] > >l > >eK > >   I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to.- > >   swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.O > >c > >   Any clues? > >T > >   Thanks > >e	 > >   -- n > >   D. aka <GCP>_Leadern > >o > >sA > >     Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !"hA > >     HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256iA > >     RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors!-3 > >                  http://www.ravenshield-gcp.orgg > >h	 > >   ---l, > >   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.@ > >   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).E > >   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004l > >  > > ---f* > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C > > Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004e > >  >( >r   ------------------------------   Date: 28 May 2004 01:52:36 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: [LINUX]* Message-ID: <2hnkb4Ff3kd8U1@uni-berlin.de>  . In article <c95ii7$1de2$2@biggoron.nerim.net>,% 	Didier Morandi <no@spam.com> writes:PH > I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images to ) > swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.a >  > Any clues?  ( Yeah, delete them and put FreeBSD on it.   bill   -- dJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 01:54:07 GMT , From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> Subject: Re: [LINUX]+ Message-ID: <3Zwtc.1916$pt3.1047@attbi_s03>o  F Also running Debian on an Alpha for about a year now.  Little trouble.  L Security stuff about once a week though.  Something that you need to keep up with.    Dave...b  . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEBHDFAA.tom@kednos.com... E > Well, now that you have gone over to the dark side you will have ton > get on axp-list@redhat.com:-)) >cC > I have Debian and Redhat on a couple of Alphas and they are quitehD > impressive, you can even run emacs in single-user mode.  You can't: > run it VMS:-(  at least nothing of in the last 10 years! >r >6 >   -----Original Message------ >   From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]b( >   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:24 PM >   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comd >   Subject: [LINUX] >m > I >   I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images toe+ >   swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.. >  >   Any clues? >g
 >   Thanks >d >   -- r >   D. aka <GCP>_Leaderp >  >y? >     Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !"-? >     HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256 ? >     RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors!g1 >                  http://www.ravenshield-gcp.orgd >c >   ---c* >   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.> >   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C >   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004r >  > ---e( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A > Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004s >p   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:08:06 -0700a# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>h Subject: RE: [LINUX]9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIMEBLDFAA.tom@kednos.com>r     -----Original Message-----3   From: Dave Gudewicz [mailto:k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net]f&   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:54 PM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms   Subject: Re: [LINUX]    H   Also running Debian on an Alpha for about a year now.  Little trouble.I Also have Debian on an Alpha, and speaking of security what is curious iseD that you can't login as root from the Gnome screen from the attached	 terminal.t Most annoying.  C   Security stuff about once a week though.  Something that you need    to keep up   with.l  	   Dave...   0   "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message5   news:NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIKEBHDFAA.tom@kednos.com...tG   > Well, now that you have gone over to the dark side you will have tow!   > get on axp-list@redhat.com:-)h   >sE   > I have Debian and Redhat on a couple of Alphas and they are quiteoF   > impressive, you can even run emacs in single-user mode.  You can't<   > run it VMS:-(  at least nothing of in the last 10 years!   >e   >s    >   -----Original Message-----/   >   From: Didier Morandi [mailto:no@spam.com]0*   >   Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:24 PM   >   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comg   >   Subject: [LINUX]   >-   >dK   >   I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images toT-   >   swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.:   >>   >   Any clues?   >t   >   Thanks   >w   >   --   >   D. aka <GCP>_Leaderb   >    >eA   >     Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !"bA   >     HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256 A   >     RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors!t3   >                  http://www.ravenshield-gcp.orga   >h	   >   ---m,   >   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.@   >   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).E   >   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004o   >f   > ---s*   > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.>   > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C   > Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    >a       --- (   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004o   --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:40:56 -0400r# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> G Subject: [More]: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old maild, Message-ID: <n4WdnXL9gucEFyvd4p2dnA@igs.net>  . http//www.theregister.co.uk/990128-000013.html  
 ----------  ) Intel's Merced undercut by Compaq's Alphae  K Alpha partner Samsung is now selling fast processors for as little as $250,e it has emerged.2    K According to confidential documents seen by The Register, .25 micron 533MHzgI Alphas will ramp to high volume in spring. They currently cost $250/1000.d    I And when the 800MHz Alpha is released later on this year, it will also beo priced at the $250 volume mark.     E Intel is expected to price its Merced processor, sampling in June and # expected next year, at over $1,500.r    K The information shows that Compaq, Samsung and the other Alpha partners ares< serious about taking on Intel in the high end server market.    H The pricing information we have seen means that large PC OEMs, includingL Compaq, Dell and HP, can ship 64-bit systems this year, possibly using LinuxA rather than NT, at a fraction of the cost a Wintel box will cost.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:46:52 -0400e# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> G Subject: [More]: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail , Message-ID: <NaidnRZBMLhjFivdRVn-jg@igs.net>  D From Readers Choice On Behalf Of Office Of The Chairman - Bob Palmer  & Sent Monday, February 23, 1998 1246 PM  ! Subject Winning with DIGITAL UNIX    To All DIGITAL Employees   From Bob Palmer-  L I am sure that most of you have seen at least one of the Hewlett-Packard adsI that ran recently in leading business publications. HP copied the look ofOI DIGITAL ads to raise questions about our commitment to UNIX following theoC proposed merger with Compaq. HP sees an opportunity to spread fear, D uncertainty and doubt. I see an opportunity for DIGITAL to deliver aL compelling, positive message built on our technical leadership in UNIX and a; value proposition that clearly has our competitors worried.4  H I am writing to you because I want to underscore our long-term strategicL commitment to 64-bit DIGITAL UNIX, and to outline the steps we are taking to help you beat HP and Sun.e  D We have launched several important initiatives to reinforce our UNIXK strengths and to deliver our messages where they will have the most impact.   L First, we are posting key sales support messages on an internal Web site setB up to provide information on the Compaq/DIGITAL merger. The URL isK http//dsm.mro.dec.com/compaq. Resources include a short presentation on ouriL UNIX leadership, competitive Q&A, third party quotes and other proof points.    D One of those proof points is the March issue of Byte magazine, whichK declared DIGITAL UNIX "the best OS platform on which to host a Web server."eE DIGITAL UNIX outperformed the UNIX offerings from Sun, HP and IBM. InaL addition, both Gartner Group and D.H. Brown identified DIGITAL UNIX as No. 16 in their independent assessments. And Sequent Computer  D Systems is joining with us to develop DIGITAL UNIX for Intel's IA-64I architecture. Our goal is to make DIGITAL UNIX the leading UNIX on Intel.r  J Second, we are stepping up our aggressive advertising and public relationsF campaigns targeted at the UNIX marketplace. We have increased the UNIXJ content of our current ads, and we are developing additional UNIX-specificL ads that will run in key business and trade publications worldwide beginningG this quarter. We are also in the midst of an extensive public relationssE effort that includes press and analyst tours in the United States and@G Europe, promotion of customer successes, and new product announcements.4  K Finally, we are working on a high-profile DIGITAL UNIX event for the end oftB Q3. It will include key partners and customers, much like the veryD successful program we did with Microsoft last month. This will be anG opportunity for you to schedule local events so that your customers anda8 prospects can hear more about DIGITAL's UNIX leadership.  E I know that there is more at issue than DIGITAL's commitment to UNIX.   I You also get questions about Compaq's commitment to UNIX. I have a simpleeJ answer that comes directly from Eckhard Pfeiffer, Compaq's chief executiveG officer. In a letter to DIGITAL customers, he said, "When the merger isoJ completed, Compaq will be absolutely committed to the continued success of0 the DIGITAL leadership in 64-bit technology with  F Alpha microprocessors, DIGITAL UNIX and OpenVMS." He has repeated thatD commitment on several occasions. These technologies are vital to our; customers and partners, and therefore they are vital to us.m  G You have heard me talk about the need for DIGITAL to have a passion forhJ winning. When it comes to UNIX, we also need a passion for beating HP. TheJ best way for us to respond to their ad campaign is to attack them where itI counts the most - in the marketplace. My objective - and the objective ofkL the Executive Committee - is to make sure you have the resources you need toI win. We will keep you informed about our UNIX initiatives and how you canh use them to win new business.-   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 18:48:02 -0400n# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>:Y Subject: [OT]: 64-bit Windows virus found - 64-bit OpenVMS not offered as alternative by c, Message-ID: <_5-dnbczT6i-7SvdRVn-sw@igs.net>  - http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5221949.htmlw  K Security technology company Symantec reported Thursday that it has analyzedfJ what it believes to be the first known threat to 64-bit Windows systems, a virus labeled W64.Rugrat.3344.J Representatives at the Cupertino, Calif.-based company were quick to pointI out that the threat was merely a so-called proof-of-concept virus--a wormyB developed by someone to show that vulnerabilities are present in aI particular type of system--and not a virus already spreading in the wild.mJ However, Oliver Friedrichs, senior manager of Symantec's Security ResponseD Team, said W64.Rugrat.3344 can attack 64-bit Microsoft Windows filesI successfully. He said the virus does not infect 32-bit files and will not, run on 32-bit Windows systems.  L Since 64-bit systems have yet to proliferate widely, Symantec maintains that2 the virus does not yet represent a serious threat.   ....   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:53:38 -0500>2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>Y Subject: Re: [OT]: 64-bit Windows virus found - 64-bit OpenVMS not offered as alternativep+ Message-ID: <40B68D92.E1BB9361@comcast.net>    John Smith wrote:  > / > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5221949.htmli > M > Security technology company Symantec reported Thursday that it has analyzedeL > what it believes to be the first known threat to 64-bit Windows systems, a  > virus labeled W64.Rugrat.3344.L > Representatives at the Cupertino, Calif.-based company were quick to pointK > out that the threat was merely a so-called proof-of-concept virus--a wormoD > developed by someone to show that vulnerabilities are present in aK > particular type of system--and not a virus already spreading in the wild. L > However, Oliver Friedrichs, senior manager of Symantec's Security ResponseF > Team, said W64.Rugrat.3344 can attack 64-bit Microsoft Windows filesK > successfully. He said the virus does not infect 32-bit files and will not2  > run on 32-bit Windows systems. > N > Since 64-bit systems have yet to proliferate widely, Symantec maintains that4 > the virus does not yet represent a serious threat. >  > ....  2 There are none so blind as those who will not see.  6 Besides, 64-bit WhineBloze *IS* a virus! 32-bit, also!   D.J.D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:21:09 +0200 " From: Didier Morandi <no@spam.com>/ Subject: Re: [perso] Farewell to my VMS Friendsp. Message-ID: <c95ic4$1de2$1@biggoron.nerim.net>   Jack Peacock wrote:h > L > Still, it doesn't hurt to hang around COV a while longer Didier, and offerN > advice and opinion even if you aren't a VMSer any longer.  Think of the poorM > guy just handed an admin for a VMS system, who has to depend on a level oneeL > PC tech in Mumbai to explain how to keep a cluster running.  COV is one of1 > best resources for VMS tech support these days.s   You convinced me, Jack.t" Here is your Customer's answer :-)  G To keep a VMS Cluster running, Mister Customer, just don't do anything.b   Peace.   -- 6 D. aka <GCP>_Leader     ;   Raven Shield server is: "GCP, neutralisez les hostiles !"l;   HP Hyperthreading Pentium IV 2.2 GHz system ADSL 1024/256n;   RvS demo 1.1 / Team Survival only / No Heartbeat sensors!i-                http://www.ravenshield-gcp.org    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2004 16:47:53 -0700. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)/ Subject: Re: [perso] Farewell to my VMS Friendsh= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0405271547.47bf7ba4@posting.google.com>   d "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> wrote in message news:<Ub6dnZnXd5DkWCndRVn-tA@mpowercom.net>...1 > "Didier Morandi" <no@spam.com> wrote in messageh* > news:c91lik$2bun$1@biggoron.nerim.net...L > > So, I will take a 6 month "sabbat" as we say here and learn .Net and C#.K > > May be if some of you are swimming around these waters, you may meet me 
 > > there. > >tJ > I don't have the luxury of a sabbatical but my weekends and holidays areN > dedicated to the same goal: .NET, Windows admin, and becoming a Microsoftie.N > All good things come to an end: TOPS-20 is now in museums, and I regret thatN > for VMS it's the late 1970's all over again.  I still have an old Alpha 4000N > in the corner running a few apps, and a handful of customers still pay us toN > keep their Alphas going, but there won't be any more upgrades in the future.M > Our last VMS-only customer bought their first Windows server last month, soo > the future is clear. > L > Still, it doesn't hurt to hang around COV a while longer Didier, and offerN > advice and opinion even if you aren't a VMSer any longer.  Think of the poorM > guy just handed an admin for a VMS system, who has to depend on a level one L > PC tech in Mumbai to explain how to keep a cluster running.  COV is one of1 > best resources for VMS tech support these days.  >   Jack Peacock     Is the dream over ?    []s   Fabio C.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 19:48:49 +0000 (UTC):6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)D Subject: [TCPIP V5.4 ECO1] Problem with sftp - Username in Lowercase1 Message-ID: <newscache$7h1eyh$wk51$1@news.sil.at>c  H I just noticed that SSH uses the wrong username thus undermining obvious% vms (security) features/restrictions.i   ...e7  EPLAN           NS  SETI@home 45%    2020025E  (Batch)C9  TCPIP$BIND      NS  TCPIP$BIND_1     20200220  (Network)59  TCPIP$FTP       NS  TCPIP$FTP_1      20200221  (Network):9  TCPIP$IMAP      NS  TCPIP$IMAP_1     20200222  (Network)a9  TCPIP$NTP       NS  TCPIP$NTP_1      20200223  (Network)e9  TCPIP$SNMP      NS  TCPIP$SNMP_1     20200225  (Network)r9  TCPIP$SSH       NS  TCPIP$S_BG28986  20200846  (Network) 9  TCPIP$XDM       NS  TCPIP$XDM_1      20200228  (Network)MH  eplan           NS  TCPIP$SSH_188    20200848  (subprocess of 20200846)   and gives other problems, too    $ sh us/fu "eplan"5 %SHOW-I-NOSUCHUSER, no processes found for user eplant  < This is much more UNIXy then neccessary, so please fix it...   -- e Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialisth E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.294 ************************a steal, or get left out to dry?   L >These initiatives are critical elements of our plan to fully leverage AlphaK >and the competitive advantages it gives us in key segments of the market - D >such as data warehousing, enterprise applications, high-performanceF >technical computing and the Internet.  We are committ#䓹y/!տ0Ttf߂&%ߖ2V"]
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