1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 28 May 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 295       Contents: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?  Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?  Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT? " Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer# AlphaBook One battery refurbishment ' Re: AlphaBook One battery refurbishment ' Re: AlphaBook One battery refurbishment   BG devices, what are they? etc.?$ Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.?8 Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system( Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area, Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area, Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area, Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area0 FYI:TFTP Client (RFC1350) - Command Line Utility% Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 + Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals  Re: LAT -> IP, some problems Re: mc ncp show known link5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"   Re: New to Tru64 need assistance: Re: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail: RE: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail4 Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcamp4 Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcamp Re: [LINUX]  Re: [LINUX] + [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only / Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only / Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:49:38 +0200 ( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?3 Message-ID: <002d01c4447f$f1c45dd0$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,  ' Don't forget to increase the BALSETCNT.    Best rregards R. Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:32:35 +0200 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?5 Message-ID: <1085729578.185953@proxy.dienste.wien.at>   	 Hi folks,   ) thanks to all who replied to my question.   8 Actually, the problem wasn't MAXPROCESSCNT or BALSETCNT,9 it was the system parameter SPTREQ which was set too low.   E When a process is created, pages in system space are required to hold D temporary data during process creation. This means that some entriesL in the system page table must be available. If they aren't (or are too few),? the process creation fails. Unfortunately, the returned code is @ SS$_NOSLOT, which isn't correct here - I don't know why VMS doesA not return the much more speaking SS$_INSFSPTS status code. Maybe E this is a problem in VMS V6.2 which is corrected in a higher version.   F Anyway, after setting SPTREQ to 10000 (the old value was around 5900),F the problem no longer occurs. Many thanks for all suggestions and kind greetings from Vienna,   Ferry  --     Ing. Ferry Bolhar % Municipality of Vienna, Department 14  A-1010 Vienna / AUSTRIA  E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 06:20:24 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-NOSLOT?= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0405280520.66f89bd9@posting.google.com>   i "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> wrote in message news:<1085729578.185953@proxy.dienste.wien.at>...  > Hi folks,  > + > thanks to all who replied to my question.  > : > Actually, the problem wasn't MAXPROCESSCNT or BALSETCNT,; > it was the system parameter SPTREQ which was set too low.  > G > When a process is created, pages in system space are required to hold F > temporary data during process creation. This means that some entriesN > in the system page table must be available. If they aren't (or are too few),A > the process creation fails. Unfortunately, the returned code is B > SS$_NOSLOT, which isn't correct here - I don't know why VMS doesC > not return the much more speaking SS$_INSFSPTS status code. Maybe G > this is a problem in VMS V6.2 which is corrected in a higher version.  > H > Anyway, after setting SPTREQ to 10000 (the old value was around 5900),H > the problem no longer occurs. Many thanks for all suggestions and kind > greetings from Vienna, >  > Ferry   E Just curious: Did you try AUTOGEN and did it recommend upping SPTREQ? F You may want to AUTOGEN your system anyway so that any parameters that1 are associated with SPTREQ are adjusted properly.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 08:58:10 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) + Subject: Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0405280758.12c1238c@posting.google.com>   X Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message news:<c80ecr$b00$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>...E > To my knowledge the EV7z is already the standard cpu in the GS1280.    Nope, not yet.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:53:50 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> , Subject: AlphaBook One battery refurbishment= Message-ID: <2oItc.5052$jR2.48676029@news-text.cableinet.net>   K Have just managed to get a Tadpole AlphaBook One battery refurbished. Seems L to work fine. They stripped the old cells out and inserted new ones, so it'sH now 2.1AH rather than 1.8AH capacity. I used www.cellpacksolutions.com -  might be of use to someone else.   --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk L Systems Archaeologist - Investigation & troubleshooting of older systems and	 networks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:51:15 -0700 3 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> 0 Subject: Re: AlphaBook One battery refurbishment. Message-ID: <40B76E03.6020800@Flying-Disk.com>   Colin Butcher wrote:M > Have just managed to get a Tadpole AlphaBook One battery refurbished. Seems N > to work fine. They stripped the old cells out and inserted new ones, so it'sJ > now 2.1AH rather than 1.8AH capacity. I used www.cellpacksolutions.com -" > might be of use to someone else.  C What was the cost?   I disassembled one of mine and it looks pretty D easy to do myself, especially if I can get strings of batteries withN the tabs already welded together.   As usual, lack of time is my excuse.   :-)   Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:57:42 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> 0 Subject: Re: AlphaBook One battery refurbishment= Message-ID: <acKtc.5146$EN3.49492077@news-text.cableinet.net>    Hi Alan,  I It's not quite so easy. The cells don't have tabs - if they did the stick L would be too long. They're friction welded together end to end in two sticksJ of five, then the pair are bonded together down the length and mated up toJ the electronics package that sites between the cells in the recesses, thenI the whole thing is shrink wrapped. Not a DIY job - as I discovered when I ( first pulled the original battery apart!  I Cost was about 55.00 including 'signed for' delivery each way and taxes. 8 That's UK based of course. May well be more from the US.   --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk L Systems Archaeologist - Investigation & troubleshooting of older systems and	 networks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:35:51 -0500 . From: Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com>) Subject: BG devices, what are they? etc.? 9 Message-ID: <40b74042$0$433$7f8943f3@newsreader.visi.com>   
 Hello all,  G I was asked "What are BG devices? What are they used for? And How come   there are some many?"   G I didn't know how to answer. I know they have to do with TCP/IP, and I  G have a "gut feeling" about what they are. But I really couldn't put it   into words.   G So... I started doing a little reading, and didn't come up with a good   description for them.   < So I'm asking here. What's a BG device? What is it used for?  H They read somewhere that their new application is going to use a lot of C BG devices, so they got scared and wanted to know if we had enough.   G So what's a quick way of finding out how many are being used? It looks  > like my current version of the IP stack has a limit of 10,000.   Thanks in advance,   Lyndon   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:11:13 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> - Subject: Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.? ; Message-ID: <5MHtc.1654$106.121@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    Lyndon Bartels wrote:    > Hello all, > I > I was asked "What are BG devices? What are they used for? And How come   > there are some many?"  > I > I didn't know how to answer. I know they have to do with TCP/IP, and I  I > have a "gut feeling" about what they are. But I really couldn't put it  
 > into words.  > I > So... I started doing a little reading, and didn't come up with a good   > description for them.  > > > So I'm asking here. What's a BG device? What is it used for? > J > They read somewhere that their new application is going to use a lot of E > BG devices, so they got scared and wanted to know if we had enough.  > I > So what's a quick way of finding out how many are being used? It looks  @ > like my current version of the IP stack has a limit of 10,000. >  > Thanks in advance, >  > Lyndon >   2 Simple answer: BG devices are network connections.   TCPIP show dev BG/full  3 or to get a count of how many are currently in use:   / $ pipe sh dev bg |sear sys$pipe bg/stat/out=nl:   E Files searched:                 1       Buffered I/O count:        37 E Records searched:              35       Direct I/O count:          32 E Characters searched:         1564       Page faults:               36 H Records matched:               32       Elapsed CPU time:  0 00:00:00.02H Lines printed:                 32       Elapsed time:      0 00:00:00.02    G In this example my system currently has 32 BG devices (Records Matched)   4 TCPIP 5.3 and earlier have a 10,000 BG device limit.   Michael.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:10:44 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>A Subject: Re: CDE - redirecting complete desktop to another system * Message-ID: <2hoe0lFfhp6bU2@uni-berlin.de>   VAXman- wrote: > FYI, > G > I have just downloaded a demo copy of a X11 server called eXodus from  > Powerlan-USA.COM.    > G > Very nice and I was able to fire up my CDE environment from the Alpha H > to my PowerBook!  Price is not as cheap as the version that comes withH > Panther but at $270 (and it works!) I'm very tempted to purchase it if: > I can get a longer demo period than the default 10 mins. >   " Thanks very much for that pointer.  - (and apologies for my ratty reply last night)    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:29:39 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 1 Subject: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area : Message-ID: <79Htc.999$Dk4.938@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>  B "Client is migrating from current VMS platform. Candidate will be G closely involved in the selection of new platform (previous experience   in this arena is mandatory)."     4 Another one bites the dust.  HP are you listening???     Michael.   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 13:41:12 +0000 (UTC) 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)5 Subject: Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area 1 Message-ID: <newscache$d4ffyh$inn1$1@news.sil.at>   n In article <79Htc.999$Dk4.938@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes:C >"Client is migrating from current VMS platform. Candidate will be  H >closely involved in the selection of new platform (previous experience  >in this arena is mandatory)." > 5 >Another one bites the dust.  HP are you listening???   G Why do you expect that they don't listen ? For me it seems pretty clear G that they do this (loosing VMS customers) with intention. (They seem to F hope, that the customers aren't totally lost for HP and for a big partF of them this is indeed correct, so HP believes they can live with it).  F Previous excuses for DEC and Q ("they can't be so crazy, that would beE suicide") proved wrong, so I do expect that HP continue it's way into % oblivion (eg. printing/imaging only).   
 Sad but clear    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:57:34 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 5 Subject: Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area , Message-ID: <_rOdnWvjjYvP2Crd4p2dnA@igs.net>  > "Michael Austin" <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote in message4 news:79Htc.999$Dk4.938@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...C > "Client is migrating from current VMS platform. Candidate will be H > closely involved in the selection of new platform (previous experience > in this arena is mandatory)."  >  > 6 > Another one bites the dust.  HP are you listening???    # Does the ad say who the company is?    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:13:14 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 5 Subject: Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area ; Message-ID: <_NHtc.1655$106.108@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>    John Smith wrote:   @ > "Michael Austin" <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote in message6 > news:79Htc.999$Dk4.938@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com... > C >>"Client is migrating from current VMS platform. Candidate will be H >>closely involved in the selection of new platform (previous experience >>in this arena is mandatory)."  >> >>6 >>Another one bites the dust.  HP are you listening??? >  >  > % > Does the ad say who the company is?  >  >  >   F it was posted by a headhunter --so no it doesn't.  I may apply for it  just to find out who it is....   Michael.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:49:18 +0400 : From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev{at}DeltaTelecom{dot}RU>9 Subject: FYI:TFTP Client (RFC1350) - Command Line Utility 3 Message-ID: <A6EAE5A8AAB6E3E78058A2DADB56F0CB@nntp>    Hi All!  	Who interesting welcome to:  2 	http://starlet.deltatel.ru/~laishev/work/tftp/*.*   --  F + WBR, OpenVMS [Sys|Net] HardWorker .................................+D Delta Telecom Inc., NMT-450i, IMT-MC-450(CDMA2000) cellular operatorE Russia,191119,St.Petersburg,Transportny per. 3 Cel: +7 (812) 116-3222 F +http://starlet.deltatelecom.ru ............. Frying on OpenVMS only +   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:58:55 +0200 7 From: Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004+ Message-ID: <c96rfv$62d$1@bozon2.softax.pl>    Stanley F. Quayle wrote:E > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with   > VMS cheap: > H > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is H > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > of $2000 USD." > B > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program F > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > $2000 for the box. > & > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > H > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 > 0.html >  > % > Should I spend a few K to do this??  > --Stan Quayle  > Quayle Consulting Inc. >  > ----------/ > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 5 > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 2 > stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com >  >  >   C Last week I was at polish HP Integrity Developer Forum. Now we are  H waiting for our two rx2600 (Itanium2 1.3 GHz, 2GB memory, two disk 36GB G 15krpm, one disk 72 GB 15krpm, graphics, DVD). Each system for 500EUR.  < There were 4 OS installed: VMS (one disc), HP-UX (one disc) F Linux/Windows 2003 (one disk). I boot and used VMS. There was version G 8.1. Other products: TCPIP 5.5, DECwindows 1.4, C, GNV, JAVA (there is  I no fast VM only classic), CSWS, BLISS, MMS, CMS. Next day we got C++ 7.0  I (most important for me) and PASCAL, BASIC and others (I don't remember).  G Systems that we are waiting for is thee same system that we used at HP  I IDF (every attendant had own server). So you can try built your software  E during IDF days and leave on to develop later when server(s) will be   delivered to your office.   G I met Chris Moser  from VMS enginering. He had disc with early version  @ VMS 8.2 (we booted this one). We also took about Rdb (me and my I colleages from Air Defence Automation Centre are interested). Soon (when  ? VMS 8.2 beta version will be available) Rdb I64 beta should be   downloadable from Oracle site.     Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:06:53 +0200 7 From: Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004+ Message-ID: <c96rut$68o$1@bozon2.softax.pl>    Robert Trawinski wrote:  > Stanley F. Quayle wrote: > J >> Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with VMS 	 >> cheap:  >>I >> "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is  I >> making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price   >> of $2000 USD."  >>C >> You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program  G >> (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the   >> $2000 for the box.  >>' >> More info at (sorry about the wrap):  >>I >> http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 	 >> 0.html  >> >>& >> Should I spend a few K to do this?? >> --Stan Quayle >> Quayle Consulting Inc.  >>
 >> ---------- 0 >> Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-13636 >> 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA3 >> stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com  >> >> >> > E > Last week I was at polish HP Integrity Developer Forum. Now we are  J > waiting for our two rx2600 (Itanium2 1.3 GHz, 2GB memory, two disk 36GB I > 15krpm, one disk 72 GB 15krpm, graphics, DVD). Each system for 500EUR.  > > There were 4 OS installed: VMS (one disc), HP-UX (one disc) H > Linux/Windows 2003 (one disk). I boot and used VMS. There was version I > 8.1. Other products: TCPIP 5.5, DECwindows 1.4, C, GNV, JAVA (there is  K > no fast VM only classic), CSWS, BLISS, MMS, CMS. Next day we got C++ 7.0  K > (most important for me) and PASCAL, BASIC and others (I don't remember).  I > Systems that we are waiting for is thee same system that we used at HP  K > IDF (every attendant had own server). So you can try built your software  G > during IDF days and leave on to develop later when server(s) will be   > delivered to your office.  > I > I met Chris Moser  from VMS enginering. He had disc with early version  B > VMS 8.2 (we booted this one). We also took about Rdb (me and my K > colleages from Air Defence Automation Centre are interested). Soon (when  A > VMS 8.2 beta version will be available) Rdb I64 beta should be    > downloadable from Oracle site. >  >  > Robert >   I I compiled PYTHON 2.3.3 (that is also very important for my company). No  I problem with compilation (I had to get rid of some modules). Sources from   , http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/kits/  0 Unfortunately it didn't work. Are you there JFP?   Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:54:54 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004, Message-ID: <mc2dnWES_KM8qyrdRVn-tA@igs.net>  = "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote in message ' news:40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost... D > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with > VMS cheap: > G > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is G > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > of $2000 USD." > A > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program E > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > $2000 for the box. > & > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > H > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 > 0.html    F Also note that when you go to that link and then click on  AdditionalK Details on DSPP link (redirects to http://h21007.www2.hp.com/ ), OpenVMS is L not mentioned on that page but ALL the other operating systems that HP sells are.   How bloody typical.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:38:39 +0200 7 From: Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004+ Message-ID: <c97itf$fl9$1@bozon2.softax.pl>    John Smith wrote: ? > "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote in message ) > news:40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost...  > D >>Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with >>VMS cheap: >>G >>"As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is G >>making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  >>of $2000 USD." >>A >>You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program E >>(free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  >>$2000 for the box. >>& >>More info at (sorry about the wrap): >>H >>http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 >>0.html >  >  > H > Also note that when you go to that link and then click on  AdditionalM > Details on DSPP link (redirects to http://h21007.www2.hp.com/ ), OpenVMS is N > not mentioned on that page but ALL the other operating systems that HP sells > are. >  > How bloody typical.  >  >  >   @ At IDF polish edition HP rewarded companies that first port own  application to HP-UX or OpenVMS.    Robert   ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 10:20:10 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 20043 Message-ID: <Z8o98AvbpRTw@eisner.encompasserve.org>   b In article <40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes:E > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with   > VMS cheap: > H > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is H > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > of $2000 USD." > B > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program F > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > $2000 for the box. > & > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > H > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 > 0.html >  > % > Should I spend a few K to do this??   B Compare it to your existing DSPP discount prices first (unless the& class is an important aspect for you).   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:57:25 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> . Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004, Message-ID: <LeKdndU-7tz0_Crd4p2dnA@igs.net>  D "Robert Trawinski" <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> wrote in message% news:c97itf$fl9$1@bozon2.softax.pl...  > John Smith wrote: A > > "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote in message + > > news:40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost...  > > F > >>Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with > >>VMS cheap: > >>I > >>"As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is I > >>making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > >>of $2000 USD." > >>C > >>You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program G > >>(free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > >>$2000 for the box. > >>( > >>More info at (sorry about the wrap): > >>J > >>http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0
 > >>0.html > >  > >  > > J > > Also note that when you go to that link and then click on  AdditionalL > > Details on DSPP link (redirects to http://h21007.www2.hp.com/ ), OpenVMS isJ > > not mentioned on that page but ALL the other operating systems that HP sells  > > are. > >  > > How bloody typical.  > >  > >  > >  > A > At IDF polish edition HP rewarded companies that first port own  > application to > HP-UX or OpenVMS.     I Perhaps the further one is away from the iron fist of carly(tm) and other F enemies of OpenVMS, the more flexibility HP managers have in promoting products other than printers.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:23:46 -0700 & From: "Matt" <somewhere@somewhere.com>4 Subject: Re: J F on the Bush Regime as War Criminals1 Message-ID: <rMidnZdmRrJ5xSrdRVn2jw@giganews.com>   $ Have you ever listed to Air America?  L I listed to it a little last time I was in San Diego.  It was horrible.  AllH they do is tell bad jokes about Republicans.  At least most conservativeD talk show hosts actually have some ideas to discuss, instead of just insulting the other side.    Matt   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:37:54 +0200 & From: Erich Weber <xxx@weberseiten.at>% Subject: Re: LAT -> IP, some problems - Message-ID: <40B732A2.2070905@weberseiten.at>     > Jonas Lindholm schrieb:  >9  > Why do you have code that do $QIOW in an AST routine ?   H Thanks for your answer! We're using $QIOW-calls in AST routines only in F special situations (rarely). Therefore, this (Hanging in ASTs) is not  our main problem.    Best wishes, Erich    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 02:55:16 -0700( From: pimpelmees@pandora.be (Pimpelmees)# Subject: Re: mc ncp show known link = Message-ID: <576e9651.0405280155.55e20789@posting.google.com>    $ set display/... 
 $ mc net$mgmt 8 (graphical tool, select "task", then "Show Known Links")   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:40:13 +0100 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>> Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"' Message-ID: <c96n0e$hc4$1@lore.csc.com>    Rob Young wrote: > T > In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: >    > > 3 > > They can always release Alpha EV8 instead.  ;-)  > >  > A >         I'm assuming you are trumpeting an inherent performance G >         advantage?  If Intel deliver's on "twice" Madison performance 4 >         for Montecito, that's a very powerful CPU.  - But Rob, it's not even about the performance.   F Folks here at CSC are getting quite excited about VMS on Superdome. In< an industry like ours it is ideal, a platform with excellentF manageability features. Multiple operating systems is worth double the$ processor 'speed' of any other chip.  B CSC is I think different from some other IT companies, we do valueH experience, and in an industry (particularly in the UK) which is seen asC 'ageist', we have a lot of older people that were brought up on, or ; remember VMS, and, given the opportunity, would install it.   G Itanium is an enabling technology, being fastest is just not important.    --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 06:47:57 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"@ Message-ID: <c55575fd6c2ac9ec54e343be4c4a51d4@news.teranews.com>   Nic Clews wrote:E > Folks here at CSC are getting quite excited about VMS on Superdome.   K Spoke to an old friend who use dto be a VMS shop but had migrated all their D VMS infrastructure to HP-UX during the 1990s  after heading Palmer's suggestions to drop VMS.  G They just bought a Superdome. A PA-Risc Superdome. When I asked why not ) Itanium, I got a big laugh as a response.     J Since HP is still selling PA-Risc Superdomes, perhaps when EV7 was finallyL allowed out, they should have re-christened Galaxies "Superdomes". this way,E HP would have PA-Risc and Alpha superdomes for serous stuff, and IA64 M Superdomes for marketing/shows. But that would give SUperdomes higher numbers 	 of sales.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:39:50 +0100 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"0 Message-ID: <c96tsn$h5g$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Rob Young wrote:T > In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: >  > D >>Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forL >>Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic.. >> >  > F > 	Yeah.  And then financial reality sets in.  AMD cleared $60 millionH > 	last quarter, Intel cleared $2.5 billion last quarter.  Profits equal> > 	to twice AMD's revenues.  Maybe Intel shovels an extra $100, > 	million to Itanium just for good measure? >   B Why would that help. An additional 100 million would only increaseA Itanium R&D expenditure by less than 5%. Do you really think that / if Itanium was 5% better it would be a sucess ?   @ And why would Intel want to put more money into Itanium, use theC same logic that called for the cancellation of Jayhawk and Tejas on 2 Itanium and you end up cancelling Itanium as well.   > 1 >>They can always release Alpha EV8 instead.  ;-)  >> >  > : > 	I'm assuming you are trumpeting an inherent performance@ > 	advantage?  If Intel deliver's on "twice" Madison performance- > 	for Montecito, that's a very powerful CPU.  >   B If, if if if. Its your favourite word sadly its generally followed	 by a but.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 07:30:59 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"3 Message-ID: <4VMXFz1db+hh@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <WIZ7YXYwwDFy@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:  > : > 	I'm assuming you are trumpeting an inherent performance@ > 	advantage?  If Intel deliver's on "twice" Madison performance- > 	for Montecito, that's a very powerful CPU.   *    And one Oracle can bill you double for.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:04:56 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>) Subject: Re: New to Tru64 need assistance ; Message-ID: <syItc.3316$%f3.92734@twister.southeast.rr.com>    Try http://www.Tru64.org.   <  -----------------------------------------------------------#  Kenneth R. Farmer <>< 336-736-7376 J http://www.OpenVMS.org  |  http://dcl.OpenVMS.org  |  http://www.Tru64.org      6 "jon_norstog" <thursday@allidaho.com> wrote in message6 news:f9b3265.0405260902.6e63686d@posting.google.com... > Dear Jazzy & list: >  > This book is pretty good > ) > Tru64 Unix System Administrator's Guide B > by Matthew Cheek (Author), Scott Fafrak (Author), Steven Hancock9 > (Author), Martin Moore (Author), Gregory Yates (Author)  >  > as well as O'Reilly's  > . > Essential System Administration, 3rd Edition > By leen Frisch  > 3rd Edition August 2002  > ISBN: 0-596-00343-9  > C > A good starter system IMHO is the PWS 500 a or au (Miata), with a E > KZPSAxx raid controller. Hook that to a BA 356 array - get the blue ? > one, and find a set of the 9.1G disks in blue hot-swap sleds.  > F > Miata class machines have a PCI bus and use readily available SDRAM.E > The DEC version of the Mylex DAC 960 is the controller card to get- G > U2wide, no major problems. You can use the Mylex unit but you have to F > flash it with DEC firmware before the system firmware (SRM) will see > it.  > F > You can pick up a Miata on EBay for a little over $100 and the KZPSAD > cards seem to go for around $25.  The best bet for the array is toF > find one with all its disks - you might have to pay over $100.  Make& > sure you get the personality module. > F > This site has a lot of info on setting up your array.  Read it first) > so you'll know hat to look for on eBay.  >  > L http://h30097.www3.hp.com/docs/cluster_doc/cluster_15/TCR_HWCFG/CHNTRXXX.HTM > F > An alternative would be an AlphaServer or Ultimate Workstation, bothE > of which have a row or stack of hot-swap disks built into the case. E > Of the two options I would go with the Ultimate workstation.  Don't 2 > pay over $300 and amke sure it is full of disks. >  > good luck  >N > jn >i >8 > > >0; > > > "Jazzy" <jackiefoster00@hotmail.com> wrote in messageL= > > > news:60953269.0404290545.20271758@posting.google.com.../I > > > > I have the following Questions for whoever is able to assist me!!o > > > >tB > > > > 1. I am new to tru64 and I am looking for someone that canD > > > > train/tutor/transition me to the OS.  I have 8 years of unix# > > > > experience with HP/Solaris.  > > > >yK > > > > 2. I am in the process of installing tru64 for home self  training,oI > > > > can anyone recommend the best low end/afforable server.  Where tor > > > > purchase?h > > > >aL > > > > 3.  Is there a monthly tru64 user group meeting held in Atlanta, GA?L > > > > If so what is the date/time/location/fee and how does one sign up to > > > > attend.e > > > >I > > > > Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:19:07 -0400p# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>eC Subject: Re: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mail , Message-ID: <XdidnUi89PrYsyrdRVn-uA@igs.net>  6 "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message! news:40B6C9B9.8070603@MMaz.com...c > John Smith wrote:s >  > >-----Original Message-----s, > >From:   President & CEO, Eckhard Pfeiffer. > >Sent:   Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:10 PM/ > >Subject:        Compaq's commitment to Alpha  > >To:     All Employees > >o5 > >Info Type:  Business / Process Related Informations > >Action Req:  No > >nL > >During the past week, Compaq took several significant steps to underscoreL > >our commitment to Alpha and to extend our leadership in 64-bit computing. > >lE > >We announced a series of initiatives with Microsoft to enhance the-I > >availability and scalability of Windows NT, and to give Windows NT and > > >64-bit DIGITAL UNIX the highest levels of interoperability. > >cI > >We also announced that future generations of Tandem's NonStop Himalaya3I > >servers would use the Alpha microprocessor.  And we announced that the.A > >official China National Computer Software & Technology Service4 Corporation0@ > >has chosen DIGITAL UNIX as the basis for China's 64-bit UNIX. > >F > >OJ > Oops, so did China steal the technology, get it for a steal, or get left
 > out to dry?h >eH > >These initiatives are critical elements of our plan to fully leverage Alpha,D > >and the competitive advantages it gives us in key segments of the market -F > >such as data warehousing, enterprise applications, high-performanceH > >technical computing and the Internet.  We are committed to deliveringK > >high-volume, 64-bit systems and solutions based on Alpha and, when it isn > >available, on Merced. > >rF > >Compaq already has a substantial lead over our competitors.  As theH > >reference platform for 64-bit Windows NT, Alpha is the only processor thatJ > >can run 64-bit UNIX and 64-bit Windows NT today.  Since DIGITAL UNIX is theeJ > >only UNIX that allows customers to develop applications compatible withL > >64-bit Windows NT, it enables them to safely invest in Alpha systems now. WeK > >expect Alpha to be the highest performance architecture for at least the- > >next decade and beyond. > >oK > >The decision to use Alpha in future generations of Himalaya servers also6H > >underscores our commitment to NonStop Computing.  With NSK and 64-bitK > >DIGITAL OpenVMS, Compaq has the best business-critical operating systemsc onH > >the market.  That is a competitive advantage that we must continue to > >reinforce with customers. > > G > >Alpha is an essential part of Compaq's enterprise strategy.  We willcG > >continue to invest in Alpha and the Alpha brand, in 64-bit operatinge systemseK > >and in software partnerships that have already produced more than 11,000yL > >64-bit applications.  These are not just investments in technology.  TheyL > >are investments in our customers, whose need for high-performance, highlyK > >available and highly reliable computing solutions is only going to grow.e > >r > >oJ > Hum, some how this warm and fuzzy doesn't seem to be conveyed today when- > all we get to look forward to, is Itanic...S >aL > >With Alpha, Compaq is in the strongest position to meet those needs. I amE > >asking each of you to help ensure that we clearly communicate thise messagen > >to all our customers.+ > >                                Regards,n* > >                                Eckhard > >  > >u > >rG > Less than five years ago, and the double-speak from Compaq since thisaF > memo, and then HP, they sure killed Alpha, NT 64, and Tru64 fast andH > probably would have put a fork into VMS if they could have profited inI > the short-term - Either Eckhard was talking out his back-side, or othereF > agendas rapidly developed when Curley took the top post and sold outJ > Alpha and Compaq, to Intel & HP...  It is really hard to believe that so2 > much has changed in such a short period of time.    I Not meaning to defend Curly, for he is as guilty as anyone in being deaf,SK dumb, and blind, but you also have to recollect just who it was that forceda Pfeiffer to walk the plank.C  L It was Compaq's Board of Directors...the same ones who really bought DigitalE for its PC and services business. To them "Enterprise" meant ProlianttG servers, not Alpha, not VMS, not unix. Curly believed that too, as doese
 carly(tm).  L They all operated in the mode of "Will someone not rid me of the troublesome priest?"   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 05:50:16 -0700i# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> C Subject: RE: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old mailu9 Message-ID: <NDEMLKKEBOIFBMJLCECIAECEDFAA.tom@kednos.com>      -----Original Message-----*   From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com]$   Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 5:19 AM   To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComEE   Subject: Re: One for the archives, or just cleaning out my old maile      8   "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> wrote in message#   news:40B6C9B9.8070603@MMaz.com...d   > John Smith wrote:e   >f   > >-----Original Message----- .   > >From:   President & CEO, Eckhard Pfeiffer0   > >Sent:   Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:10 PM1   > >Subject:        Compaq's commitment to Alphae   > >To:     All Employees   > >s7   > >Info Type:  Business / Process Related Informationt   > >Action Req:  No   > >aC   > >During the past week, Compaq took several significant steps too   underscoreC   > >our commitment to Alpha and to extend our leadership in 64-bit-   computing.   > >rG   > >We announced a series of initiatives with Microsoft to enhance the@K   > >availability and scalability of Windows NT, and to give Windows NT ands@   > >64-bit DIGITAL UNIX the highest levels of interoperability.   > > K   > >We also announced that future generations of Tandem's NonStop HimalayaoK   > >servers would use the Alpha microprocessor.  And we announced that thefC   > >official China National Computer Software & Technology Service 
   CorporationnB   > >has chosen DIGITAL UNIX as the basis for China's 64-bit UNIX.   > >h   > >sL   > Oops, so did China steal the technology, get it for a steal, or get left   > out to dry?!   >oJ   > >These initiatives are critical elements of our plan to fully leverage   AlphaaF   > >and the competitive advantages it gives us in key segments of the
   market -H   > >such as data warehousing, enterprise applications, high-performanceJ   > >technical computing and the Internet.  We are committed to deliveringB   > >high-volume, 64-bit systems and solutions based on Alpha and,   when it is   > >available, on Merced.   > > H   > >Compaq already has a substantial lead over our competitors.  As theJ   > >reference platform for 64-bit Windows NT, Alpha is the only processor   thatL   > >can run 64-bit UNIX and 64-bit Windows NT today.  Since DIGITAL UNIX is   the L   > >only UNIX that allows customers to develop applications compatible withA   > >64-bit Windows NT, it enables them to safely invest in Alphao   systems now.   WeC   > >expect Alpha to be the highest performance architecture for atk   least thet   > >next decade and beyond.   > > @   > >The decision to use Alpha in future generations of Himalaya   servers alsoJ   > >underscores our commitment to NonStop Computing.  With NSK and 64-bit;   > >DIGITAL OpenVMS, Compaq has the best business-critical    operating systemss   onJ   > >the market.  That is a competitive advantage that we must continue to   > >reinforce with customers.   > >,I   > >Alpha is an essential part of Compaq's enterprise strategy.  We willmI   > >continue to invest in Alpha and the Alpha brand, in 64-bit operating$	   systemssA   > >and in software partnerships that have already produced more 
   than 11,000e<   > >64-bit applications.  These are not just investments in   technology.  Theyn5   > >are investments in our customers, whose need forv   high-performance, highly>   > >available and highly reliable computing solutions is only   going to grow.   > >s   > > L   > Hum, some how this warm and fuzzy doesn't seem to be conveyed today when/   > all we get to look forward to, is Itanic...    >sB   > >With Alpha, Compaq is in the strongest position to meet those
   needs. I amaG   > >asking each of you to help ensure that we clearly communicate thise	   messagef   > >to all our customers.-   > >                                Regards,e,   > >                                Eckhard   > >e   > >c   > > I   > Less than five years ago, and the double-speak from Compaq since thiseH   > memo, and then HP, they sure killed Alpha, NT 64, and Tru64 fast andJ   > probably would have put a fork into VMS if they could have profited inK   > the short-term - Either Eckhard was talking out his back-side, or otherOH   > agendas rapidly developed when Curley took the top post and sold outL   > Alpha and Compaq, to Intel & HP...  It is really hard to believe that so4   > much has changed in such a short period of time.    K   Not meaning to defend Curly, for he is as guilty as anyone in being deaf,iA   dumb, and blind, but you also have to recollect just who it was 
   that forcedR   Pfeiffer to walk the plank.n  ?   It was Compaq's Board of Directors...the same ones who really-   bought DigitalG   for its PC and services business. To them "Enterprise" meant ProlianteI   servers, not Alpha, not VMS, not unix. Curly believed that too, as doess   carly(tm).
 Ben Rosen.  B   They all operated in the mode of "Will someone not rid me of the
   troublesome 
   priest?"       ---l(   Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.<   Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A   Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004r   ---a& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.680 / Virus Database: 442 - Release Date: 5/9/2004    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 07:05:25 GMT / From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@spyderbyte.com> = Subject: Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcampo< Message-ID: <VwBtc.1228$Ef3.154367@twister.southeast.rr.com>  8 "heuveltjes" <heuveltjes@email.msn.com> wrote in message& news:40b6cbae$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... >l< > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message/ > news:fm0YGUtZsUTy@eisner.encompasserve.org...r > >s@ > > Since this happened in the hall, I presume it is not covered$ > > by the non-disclosure agreement. > >-J > > At registration we got a "thing" that says "hp certified professional"G > > and has a fuzzy top like a duster, two eyes, a beak and a body thineC > > enough to make it susceptible to falling over.  My wife says itt > > resembles the Roadrunner.. > >e > > What is it ? >cA > A keyboard duster! (Honestly!) And whatever else tickles you...i    B It also has a pen if you pull the black stand/feet off the bottom.  G The duster works well.  It's kept my laptop kb nad screen free of dust.a   Kend  5 -----------------------------------------------------s Kenneth R. Farmer <><u1 http://www.OpenVMS.org  |  http://dcl.OpenVMS.orge   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 10:58:17 GMTe" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG= Subject: Re: Question from last week's VMS Symposium/Bootcamp 0 Message-ID: <00A32809.A9D3D952@SendSpamHere.ORG>  c In article <fm0YGUtZsUTy@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: = >Since this happened in the hall, I presume it is not coveredr! >by the non-disclosure agreement.l > G >At registration we got a "thing" that says "hp certified professional"sD >and has a fuzzy top like a duster, two eyes, a beak and a body thin@ >enough to make it susceptible to falling over.  My wife says it >resembles the Roadrunner. >:
 >What is it ?r  0 A pen (remove the foot) and a keyboard duster.     -- oB http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.s --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMf            M5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" h   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:28:12 +0200o* From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net> Subject: Re: [LINUX]* Message-ID: <2ho80dFf3kbjU1@uni-berlin.de>   Graham Burley wrote: > Didier Morandi wrote:, >  > $ > That was the shortest farewell ... >  >  > G >>I'm currently downloading the 2.67 Go RedHat for Alpha .iso images toe) >>swap my good old PWS600au/VMS to Linux.2 >> >>Any clues? >  > 4 > Don't do it! Do not do that which you contemplate. > H > Get your Hobbyist NOTES kit loaded, create your own .Net and C# MinuteI > of the Day conferences, and keep DCL to hand for when you need/want it.i >   I Heh, heh. I've lost count of the number of times I've found it faster to  I   move a file to VMS and massage it with a proper editor and/or a bit of   DCL than do the work on a PC.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 07:29:22 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)t Subject: Re: [LINUX]3 Message-ID: <rb3XUfCmd16k@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <30xtc.19856$eT4.8660@attbi_s54>, "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net> writes:RL > Forgot to add.  LINUX and UNIX are similar to VMS.  Just like baseball andJ > cricket are.  Both are played with a ball and there the similarity ends.  H    Nope.  UNIX to VMS is like football to baseball.  They're both played@    with balls, but first you have to figure out which meaning of    "football".   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:10:33 +0000 (UTC)r6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)4 Subject: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only1 Message-ID: <newscache$ahgfyh$g2o1$1@news.sil.at>2  G You may know, that I'm not the expert in TCPIP SMTP (since I use MX and.) also TCPware) so thought I ask here, too:e  0 Is it possible to run TCPIP SMTP outgoing only ?  . I mean, to don't run a service on TCP port 25,@ but enable local VMS users/applications to send SMTP mails out ?  H On MX, this is easy (because SMTP and SMTP_SERVER are different agents).   TIA    -- g Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERr% Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:57:03 +0200o* From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>8 Subject: Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only* Message-ID: <2hp2a1Ffi517U1@uni-berlin.de>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:I > You may know, that I'm not the expert in TCPIP SMTP (since I use MX and.+ > also TCPware) so thought I ask here, too:N > 2 > Is it possible to run TCPIP SMTP outgoing only ? > 0 > I mean, to don't run a service on TCP port 25,B > but enable local VMS users/applications to send SMTP mails out ? > J > On MX, this is easy (because SMTP and SMTP_SERVER are different agents). >  > TIA  >   D I haven't come across any way of just starting the outgoing part of  SMTP, but...  H Wouldn't TCPIP SET SERVICE SMTP /PORT=n where n is something other than  25 achieve this?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:06:46 GMT(1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>M8 Subject: Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only; Message-ID: <aAItc.1362$5q7.207@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>     Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:I > You may know, that I'm not the expert in TCPIP SMTP (since I use MX andc+ > also TCPware) so thought I ask here, too:  > 2 > Is it possible to run TCPIP SMTP outgoing only ? > 0 > I mean, to don't run a service on TCP port 25,B > but enable local VMS users/applications to send SMTP mails out ? > J > On MX, this is easy (because SMTP and SMTP_SERVER are different agents). >  > TIAe >   H TCPIP is only one server process (in/out-bound).  You can configure  it E to accept/reject all certain connections and only send stuff. And it -B does not have authenticated send... ie forward through your ISP...  7 you can accept localhost, ip address, hostname, networkj> or recject hostname, ip address, network(s).  I believe if youD have only one accect, then everything else gets rejected by default.   YMMV.:   Michael.       TCPIP HELP SET SERVICE SETy  
    SERVICE        /ACCEPT  B            /ACCEPT {=[NO]HOSTS=(hosts) | =[NO]NETWORKS=(networks)}  A         Optional. Default: Offers the service to all hosts on alla         networks.i           o  /ACCEPT=HOST=(host)  9            -  Grants host or hosts access to the service.P  /            -  Denies access to all other hosts.s  G         o  /ACCEPT=NOHOST=host removes access to the service for a host ;            that previously gained access with /ACCEPT=HOST.p  ,         The following options are available:  "         Option             Meaning  G         HOSTS=hosts        Makes the service available to the specified-!                            hosts.NH                            Denies all other hosts access to the service.  )                            Maximum is 32..F         NOHOSTS=hosts      Removes the specified hosts from the acceptA                            list so they cannot gain access to the1H                            service. You can specify a wildcard characterG                            (*) in place of the hosts list to remove alln6                            hosts from the accept list.  )                            Maximum is 32. G         NETWORKS=networks  Makes the service available to the specified H                            networks. Denies access to the service to all*                            other networks.  )                            Maximum is 16.t  G                            For each network, you can optionally specify E                            the network mask. The default network mask F                            equals network's class number. For example,H                            for the network 11.200.0.0., the default mask(                            is 255.0.0.0.B         NONETWORKS[=networks]moves the specified networks from theH                            accept list so they cannot gain access to theH                            service. You can specify a wildcard characterF                            (*) in place of the networks list to remove=                            all networks from the accept list.   )                            Maximum is 16.d  G                            For each network, you can optionally specifyoH                            the network mask. The default net mask equalsC                            network's class number. For example, for C                            network 11.200.0.0., the default mask is0%                            255.0.0.0.@    e6 /ACCEPT=NONETWORKS=(net1_name,net2_address,net3:net3ma sk)e       SETs  
    SERVICE        /REJECT  B            /REJECT {=[NO]HOSTS=(hosts ) |=[NO]NETWORKS=(networks )"            |=[NO]MESSAGE="text"] }  I         Optional. Default: No rejections if /ACCEPT is set to its defaultH         (service all hosts).  ?         o  /REJECT=HOST=host denies host access to the service.o  C         o  /REJECT=NOHOST=host regrants host access to the service.n  ,         The following options are available.  "         Option             Meaning  I         HOSTS=hosts        Makes the service unavailable to the specifiedB!                            hosts..  )                            Maximum is 32.l  $                            Examples:  G                            /REJECT=HOSTS=(host1_name,host2_name, host3_o#                            address)o  *                            /REJECT=HOSTS=*F         NOHOSTS=hosts      Removes the specified hosts from the rejectG                            list. You can use the wildcard character (*).I                            in place of the hosts list to remove all hostst0                            from the reject list.  )                            Maximum is 32.>  $                            Examples:  H                            /REJECT=NOHOSTS=(host1_name,host2_name,host3_#                            address)>  ,                            /REJECT=NOHOSTS=*H         NETWORKS=networks  Makes the service unavailable to the hosts on2                            the specified networks.  )                            Maximum is 16.r  G                            For each network, you can optionally specifyoH                            the network mask. The default net mask equalsC                            network's class number. For example, forXC                            network 11.200.0.0., the default mask is %                            255.0.0.0.l  #                            Example:h  D                            /REJECT=NETWORKS=(net1_name,net2_address,)                            net3:net3mask)sI         NONETWORKS[=networks]moves the specified networks from the rejectoG                            list. You can use the wildcard character (*)eF                            in place of the networks list to remove all9                            networks from the reject list.n  )                            Maximum is 16.   G                            For each network, you can optionally specify0H                            the network mask. The default net mask equalsC                            network's class number. For example, foruC                            network 11.200.0.0., the default mask is %                            255.0.0.0.a  #                            Example:i  F                            /REJECT=NONETWORKS=(net1_name,net2_address,)                            net3:net3mask) E         [NO]MESSAGE=text   Message sent to "reject-list" clients when H         NOMESSAGE          TCP/IP Services rejects their request for the#                            service.s  $                            Optional.  >                            Specify a character string up to 63&                            characters.  A                            Enclose the string in quotation marks.-  C                            Use this option only for a service whosehG                            clients require and support reject messages.4  H                            Messages are sent with a carriage return/line+                            feed at the end.e  F                            For RLOGIN, RSH, and REXEC, this message isF                            preceded by a byte with a value of 1 and isD                            terminated with a byte with a value of 0.  G                            /REJECT=NOMESSAGE deletes the stored message                              text.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.295 ************************