1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 29 May 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 296       Contents:. Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A?" Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer" Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer" Re: Alpha/VMS news on The InquirerB ANN:  OpenVMS VAX 5.5-2 Y2K kit has been released for hobbyist use$ Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.?$ Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.?, Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area, Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area. Help restoring directories to a different disk% Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 % Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR" 5 Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"  Re: Sortwork file query : Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature3 Re: Upgrading Cluster from FDDI to Gigabit Ethernet / Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:06:46 -0500 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)7 Subject: Re: 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A? 1 Message-ID: <04052818064610@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>    Zane wrote: N > I'm not totally sure what the original poster is looking for.  I kind of gotN > the impression he's looking for 3rd party JBOD.  One thing I couldn't figure+ > out is if he wants SCSI or Fibre Channel.   6 Well... it is mis-leading... and I am only guessing...  - >> 3rd party 15KRPM 18, 36G "bricks" for V/A?   M However, from the subject line you get the feeling we are discussing V/A - as K in Virtual Array.  Well even the HSJ40 was a V/A in that sense of the word.   E >> We are looking for OpenVMS/Alpha compatible 3rd party SCSI "brick" F >> drive model recommendations that have 18 or 36G capacity and run at >> 15K RPM.   O Which to me would imply (1) an alternate vendor and (2) maybe an upgrade from a  10K to a 15K disk.  A >> We would like to use drives from the HP Storageworks division, > >> alas they only offer 15KRPM drive in a universal "flavour".  K Problem here is that the StorageWorks division ranged from SW-800, ESA-12K,  EMA-12K, and now the EVA.       J But the "universal "flavour" gives it away.  The UC style is the new drive model for HP/C.   @ >> Something like the Seagate Cheetah ST318453LC would be ideal.  6 I beleive the ST318453LC is an 18-GB 15K Ultra320 SCSI  H >> (We're looking at non-universal drives because we're configuring usedH >> entry-level Alpha server nodes w/low-cost external storage enclosures8 >> - they have no option for internal universal drives).  M Note the "non-universal drives", this would imply the SBB.  Since the current ( drive model is UC (Universal Carrier)...  : >> Purchasing universal drives and them disassembling them; >> (which would void the warranty) seems to be a poor idea.   J Here too, the "universal drives" would imply the UC (Universal Carrier)...  O And since there is no option for internal universal drives (as stated above) we  would be back at SBB.      IMHO  D >> Any positive experiences, or horror stories with lessons learned?   Lessons learned here...   ? Please be more specific, however it was fun deciphering ...  ;)      J*o*h*n B*r*a*n*d*o*n  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:39:13 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> + Subject: Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer , Message-ID: <u5idnQy47_v6CCrdRVn-tA@igs.net>  > "Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0405280758.12c1238c@posting.google.com... + > Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message . news:<c80ecr$b00$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>...G > > To my knowledge the EV7z is already the standard cpu in the GS1280.  >  > Nope, not yet.  4 What are they waiting for....until Itanic is faster?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:58:18 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) + Subject: Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2805041902200001@user-uinj02d.dialup.mindspring.com>  J In article <u5idnQy47_v6CCrdRVn-tA@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote:  ? >"Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message 8 >news:cf15391e.0405280758.12c1238c@posting.google.com..., >> Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message/ >news:<c80ecr$b00$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>... H >> > To my knowledge the EV7z is already the standard cpu in the GS1280. >> >> Nope, not yet.  > 5 >What are they waiting for....until Itanic is faster?   I The usual.  Testing and qualification.  Sufficient production capacity to < fill the supply pipeline for new deliveries and spare parts.  E Just like the first 2 EV7 releases.  A few folks here like to believe J release was delayed.  (Various loony motivations have been offered.)   EV7G chips and systems were shipped as soon as they were qualified, with the G best specifications that were available in meaningful quantities at the E time.  There were no intentional delays or reductions in performance.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:12:47 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> + Subject: Re: Alpha/VMS news on The Inquirer @ Message-ID: <6c4c9437f19539f3b495dd2b24ca3a38@news.teranews.com>   Robert Deininger wrote: K > The usual.  Testing and qualification.  Sufficient production capacity to > > fill the supply pipeline for new deliveries and spare parts.  K Sorry, that doesn't have much credibility. EV7z is just EV7 without a speed J restriction. HP admitted that the EV7 chip was perfectly capable of higherN speeds without any changes to it. That was the whole rationale behind breaking# the promise of the EV79 speed bump.    ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 13:33:49 -07002 From: williamwebb@openvms-rocks.com (William Webb)K Subject: ANN:  OpenVMS VAX 5.5-2 Y2K kit has been released for hobbyist use < Message-ID: <bf98c417.0405281233.147d007@posting.google.com>  C OpenVMS Hobbyists with older hardware will be pleased to learn that D the VMS/VAX 5.5-2/5.5-2H4 Y2K patch kit (which up until now was only; available to customers with prior version support) has been 0 unrestricted and placed on the HP ITRC FTP site.  @ Thanks to Mark Gorham [HP Vice President of OpenVMS Systems] and? MaryJane Vazquez [Manager of the Base Operating System Business B Development Group and the Product Manager of the OpenVMS operating system] for making this happen.    FTP Directory is: F ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/archived_patches/openvms_patches/vax/5.X/v5.5-2/  
 Cover Letter:  vaxy2k01_u2055.txt  
 Patch Kit: vaxy2k01_u2055.dcx_vaxexe    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:37:09 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> - Subject: Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.? @ Message-ID: <57ec1a7ec8dca0781c2c5f53c3eb93f7@news.teranews.com>   Lyndon Bartels wrote:  >  > Hello all, > H > I was asked "What are BG devices? What are they used for? And How come > there are some many?"   N They are evil spyware from Microsoft (Bill Gates -> BG). They etablish networkN connections to tell Gates what your system is doing and also covertly download= VMS system files to Microsoft so that Microsoft can copy VMS.  :-)   K A BG device is created whenever an application opens a channel to the TCPIP N "main" device either to establish an outbound connection, or to declare itself  as a listener to a certain port.  D If users connect via TELNET, you'll have a BG device for each telnetJ connection (as well as a TNA device for the actual terminal under telnet).  M Also, if you have multiple interfaces/multi homed, many services such as BIND L will create listeners on each interface, and that results in many BG devices for that process/service.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 20:47:17 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>- Subject: Re: BG devices, what are they? etc.? + Message-ID: <40B7EBA5.644276E3@comcast.net>    Lyndon Bartels wrote:  >  > Hello all, > H > I was asked "What are BG devices? What are they used for? And How come > there are some many?"  > H > I didn't know how to answer. I know they have to do with TCP/IP, and IH > have a "gut feeling" about what they are. But I really couldn't put it
 > into words.  > H > So... I started doing a little reading, and didn't come up with a good > description for them.  > > > So I'm asking here. What's a BG device? What is it used for? > I > They read somewhere that their new application is going to use a lot of E > BG devices, so they got scared and wanted to know if we had enough.  > H > So what's a quick way of finding out how many are being used? It looks@ > like my current version of the IP stack has a limit of 10,000.  4 Probably the easiest for them to relate to would be:   BG device => TCP/IP socket.    D.J.D>   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:43:49 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 5 Subject: Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area @ Message-ID: <5580308c70c5d3f1794d282f8f8f9a8e@news.teranews.com>   Michael Austin wrote:   G > it was posted by a headhunter --so no it doesn't.  I may apply for it   > just to find out who it is....    K Since they haven't yet decided on the target platform, why not apply to get N the job so you could convince them to migrate from VMS to openVMS ? That would; provide the least cost solution :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 19:19:32 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 5 Subject: Re: Excerpt from Job Advert for the NYC area ; Message-ID: <8hMtc.1410$Pu.1303@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>    JF Mezei wrote:    > Michael Austin wrote:  >  > G >>it was posted by a headhunter --so no it doesn't.  I may apply for it   >>just to find out who it is.... >  >  > M > Since they haven't yet decided on the target platform, why not apply to get P > the job so you could convince them to migrate from VMS to openVMS ? That would= > provide the least cost solution :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)    :)   ------------------------------    Date: 28 May 2004 22:18:17 -0700" From: jmckinney@icehouse.net (jim)7 Subject: Help restoring directories to a different disk ; Message-ID: <c740d2.0405282118.2c031bf1@posting.google.com>   A I need to restore a directory tree from a disk on one system to a D directory on a disk on a new system. Seems simple enough, but I mustC be missing something. Looking at the example in the manual I end up B getting all of the files from all directories dumped into a singleB director on the new disk. What I'm trying to do is restore severalE disks worth of data to a new disk, each drive's directory trees under E a different directory. For example, I want to restore the directories F and files from $1$DKF0 to $1$DGA5:[DKF0]. Is there a way to accomplish this (easily)? Thanks!   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 16:13:25 -0400 , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com>. Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004* Message-ID: <40b79eb0@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  J the links on the dspp home page are based on the number of clicks they get on the lowerdown pages.   L if you click the 'more...' under technologies or the 'technologies' link you will see OpenVMS listed.  J if that link starts getting hits it will migrate to the home page. (please3 don't just click it for that.. there's more too it) K but they do move things around. I don't know the exact time frames but this ' is one reason we do collect metrics. So 2 these movements can be justified based on traffic.  J And OpenVMS is listed on the Itanium based solutions page also. I do think5 that in some places on hp.com OpenVMS is slighted but L DSPP isn't one of them. They are trying but EVERYONE wants their stuff on as9 close to the top as possible and there is a lot of stuff.   J If you find places that OpenVMS should be listed let me know. I can try toJ get with the site owners and get some OpenVMS content in. but then you allF have to use that content also. Some of the areas of hp.com are old andI crufty (hey some parts of the OpenVMS web site are old and crufty) but we 4 all try to get things fixed and promoted correctly..      . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:mc2dnWES_KM8qyrdRVn-tA@igs.net... > ? > "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote in message ) > news:40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost... F > > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with > > VMS cheap: > > I > > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is I > > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > > of $2000 USD." > > C > > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program G > > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > > $2000 for the box. > > ( > > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > > J > > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0
 > > 0.html >  > H > Also note that when you go to that link and then click on  AdditionalJ > Details on DSPP link (redirects to http://h21007.www2.hp.com/ ), OpenVMS isH > not mentioned on that page but ALL the other operating systems that HP sells  > are. >  > How bloody typical.  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:47:25 GMT , From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@NOSPAMarrl.net>. Subject: Re: HP and Intel Developer Forum 2004* Message-ID: <gcQtc.5816$IB.3625@attbi_s04>   Thanks for this update Warren.   Dave...   7 "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> wrote in message $ news:40b79eb0@usenet01.boi.hp.com...L > the links on the dspp home page are based on the number of clicks they get > on the lowerdown pages.  > J > if you click the 'more...' under technologies or the 'technologies' link you  > will see OpenVMS listed. > L > if that link starts getting hits it will migrate to the home page. (please5 > don't just click it for that.. there's more too it) H > but they do move things around. I don't know the exact time frames but this) > is one reason we do collect metrics. So 4 > these movements can be justified based on traffic. > L > And OpenVMS is listed on the Itanium based solutions page also. I do think7 > that in some places on hp.com OpenVMS is slighted but K > DSPP isn't one of them. They are trying but EVERYONE wants their stuff on  as; > close to the top as possible and there is a lot of stuff.  > L > If you find places that OpenVMS should be listed let me know. I can try toL > get with the site owners and get some OpenVMS content in. but then you allH > have to use that content also. Some of the areas of hp.com are old andK > crufty (hey some parts of the OpenVMS web site are old and crufty) but we 6 > all try to get things fixed and promoted correctly.. >  >  > 0 > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message( > news:mc2dnWES_KM8qyrdRVn-tA@igs.net... > > A > > "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> wrote in message + > > news:40B67A35.2512.6EE6750@localhost... H > > > Anyone going to this?  Looks like a way to get an Itanium box with > > > VMS cheap: > > > K > > > "As a special offer to a select set of HP and Intel developers, HP is K > > > making the HP Integrity rx2600 server available at an exclusive price  > > > of $2000 USD." > > > E > > > You have to join DSPP (free) and the Intel Early Access Program I > > > (free), but it's not clear what the session costs -- other than the  > > > $2000 for the box. > > > * > > > More info at (sorry about the wrap): > > > L > > > http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,0 > > > 0.html > >  > > J > > Also note that when you go to that link and then click on  AdditionalL > > Details on DSPP link (redirects to http://h21007.www2.hp.com/ ), OpenVMS > isJ > > not mentioned on that page but ALL the other operating systems that HP > sells  > > are. > >  > > How bloody typical.  > >  > >  > >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 22:09:06 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_._remove_harrison@su_n.com> > Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"0 Message-ID: <c989pj$d2b$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote: >  >  > Rob Young wrote: > = >> In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith"   >> <a@nonymous.com> writes:  >> >>   >>F >>> Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forF >>> Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for  >>> Itanic.. >>>  >>>    >> >>J >>     Yeah.  And then financial reality sets in.  AMD cleared $60 millionL >>     last quarter, Intel cleared $2.5 billion last quarter.  Profits equalB >>     to twice AMD's revenues.  Maybe Intel shovels an extra $1000 >>     million to Itanium just for good measure? >>   >>K > Not one for David and Goliath stories?  The same arguments could be said  K > about pitting Dell against IBM years past, but if you find the right mix  A > at the right time and run with it, well anything is possible...  >   B The huge irony of Robs post is that Rob was confidently predicting? that AMD would be hemoraging money now because of a discounting  onslaught by Intel.   @ In fact not only is AMD making money out of processors but their average cost is increasing.   @ Another prediction that Rob got totally and completely wrong but> then hey its a long long list and one more isn't going to make much of an impact is it.  @ So instead the new spin is that AMD is so tiny that Intel cannot> lose all they need to do is pump a bit more into Itanium and a3 bit more and a bit more and just a little bit more.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------   Date: 29 May 2004 05:10:10 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>> Subject: Re: More on Processors from May issues of "PROCESSOR"? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-PlOygEkPGNpe@dave2_os2.home.ours>   A On Fri, 28 May 2004 03:37:46 UTC, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob  
 Young) wrote:   T > In article <uMCdnZnxnNOX9CvdRVn-ig@igs.net>, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes: >  > > F > > Doesn't this sound like Intel 'tripping?' Not only is this bad forN > > Intel's 32-bit processors, but I cannot see this being 'good' for Itanic.. > >  > F > 	Yeah.  And then financial reality sets in.  AMD cleared $60 millionH > 	last quarter, Intel cleared $2.5 billion last quarter.  Profits equal> > 	to twice AMD's revenues.  Maybe Intel shovels an extra $100, > 	million to Itanium just for good measure?  < Well considering you had  AMD going bust Rob, that's a fair F performance and it can easily get better. Intel is still a big comapny tho'.    --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:04:58 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>  Subject: Re: Sortwork file query2 Message-ID: <c98giq$4jt$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>  Q You don't tell us what you are sorting. If these are files that were made with a  O C program, the please keep in mind that C produces Stream-lf files with a fake  : record size that is the maximum that RMS supports (32 kB).  Q You may have to add a record-size switch with the sort command, whe you know the   true record size.    Adrian Birkett wrote:  > Hi,  > J > One of out applications sorts a file. The logical names of the sortwork J > files are defined as DSA1:[NODIR]. This directory does not exist on the J > device and the files are showing in SDA as DSA1:[]. Is there any way of K > viewing these files to get an idea of how big they are as the seem to be  / > eating disk space at  quite an alarming rate?  > 
 > Regards, >  > Ade  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:44:21 -0400 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com> C Subject: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature + Message-ID: <40B78885.D12131D1@adldata.com>    Jonathan Boswell wrote:  > < > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message< > news:a94539516017d19bf59d3dcea61cacbf@news.teranews.com...M > > Do you have a Good-Clients: definition which may encompass the bad client  > > specification? > > > No Good-Clients definition at all.  Still commented out a la > smtp_config.template.  > K > Here is an example header edited lightly to avoid posting my wife's email , > address and my server domain name at home. > % > | Return-Path: Kernel@ranmamail.com 6 > | Received: from navescolombia.com (200.118.109.122)? > |         by my.domain.name (V5.4-15B, OpenVMS V7.2-2 Alpha); * > |        Wed, 26 May 2004 02:09:53 -0400? > | Received: from ranmamail.com (ranmamail-com.mr.outblaze.com  > [205.158.62.177]) B > |        by navescolombia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B907508F0I > |        for <my.wife's.email.address>; Wed, 26 May 2004 06:04:39 +0400 > > | Message-ID: <100101c442c5$ab465552$4001c15b@ranmamail.com>9 > | From: "Mitered A. Gracelessly" <Kernel@ranmamail.com>  > | To: my.wife's.email.address  > L > As you can see, the mail was relayed through 200.118.109.122 whose reverseC > DNS is indeed navescolombia.com (but whose forward DNS address is E > 200.31.75.8).  Doesn't TCPIP Services look for the *client* address H > 205.158.62.177, rather than the relay node address?  This could be theE > problem because I only entered the IP address for Outblaze.com, not M > navescolombia.com.  The relay node and From: name is of course different on J > every message (10/day) my wife gets, but the client IP address is always > 205.158.62.something.   K The smtp relay sending you the email is 200.118.109.122. That is the relay  J connecting to your alpha that is controllable with good-client/bad-client.H You should specify actual ip addressing. If you use a name, it will try K to resolve it and possible cause problems for names with non -existant dns   references.   J On TCPIP V5.1 the other "Received: from" lines aren't usable for blocking.+ I am not sure about later version of TCPIP.   K If you want to block "ranamail.com", you should be using "Reject-Mail-From"  and specify something like:  Reject-Mail-From: *ranamail*   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:40:47 -0400 2 From: "Jonathan Boswell" <jsb.NOSP@M.cdrh.fda.gov>C Subject: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature 4 Message-ID: <RdPtc.329$Ny6.1052@mencken.net.nih.gov>  0 "sol gongola" <sol@adldata.com> wrote in message% news:40B78885.D12131D1@adldata.com... L > The smtp relay sending you the email is 200.118.109.122. That is the relayL > connecting to your alpha that is controllable with good-client/bad-client.  H Oh rats.  That explains why it's not working.  So by "client", HP reallyL means "last relay".  This is useless in my present circumstance since I haveI never seen the outblaze.com spammers use the same relay twice.  But their J email client IP address is visible in the email headers (farther down) andG they only use a few IP addresses which could easily be blocked if TCPIP  Services had this feature.  K >On TCPIP V5.1 the other "Received: from" lines aren't usable for blocking. - > I am not sure about later version of TCPIP.   F Rats rats rats!  I'm using 5.4 ECO1, and your comment would explain myK server is passing all this spam.  Virtually none of the relays outblaze.com 2 uses are listed on blackhole lists I have checked.  : > If you want to block "ranamail.com", you should be using "Reject-Mail-From" > and specify something like:  > Reject-Mail-From: *ranamail*  J What's ranamail.com?  If that's just your example, can I Reject-Mail-From:3 *.outblaze.com and expect it to work?  This address L (something.or.other.outblaze.com) is always visible (lower down) in the spam headers.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 23:10:38 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> C Subject: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature @ Message-ID: <b269fc09e9b5b90fb8a3e4c3b6854453@news.teranews.com>   Jonathan Boswell wrote: J > Oh rats.  That explains why it's not working.  So by "client", HP reallyA > means "last relay".  This is useless in my present circumstance   M The only reliable peicve of information is the IP address of the sending SMTP H server because that value is not sent by the sendiong SMTP server, it is9 obtained by the receiving server through its TCPIP stack.   K The TCPIP Services SMTO softwarte does not have any ability to scan through X the contents of the email (everything past the DATA command, including the RFC headers).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 00:12:23 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> C Subject: Re: TCPIP Services for OpenVMS V5.4 ECO1 anti spam feature 1 Message-ID: <htmdnXcQrpU6kCXdRVn-hA@adelphia.com>    Jonathan Boswell wrote:  > J > Oh rats.  That explains why it's not working.  So by "client", HP reallyN > means "last relay".  This is useless in my present circumstance since I have@ > never seen the outblaze.com spammers use the same relay twice.  H Outblaze is known for prompt nuking of spammers or blocking of any spam G sources, but they are are a very large ISP for their geographical area.   H  From every anti-spam forum on the Internet that I monitor, Outblaze is G well known to terminate spammers on their networks as fast as possible.   ! Much faster than many other ISPs.     F You can not trust the I.P. address that a relay that delivers spam to 8 you claims it got it from, unless you control the relay.  G Spammers routinely inject spam through a compromised machine with fake  : headers to make it look like it came from another network.  D Essentially they are expecting that if the mail server accepted the I spam, then the any user content filter would then check the fake headers  ; that the spammer inserted, and send the abuse report there.   H If you get a spamcop.net account (free and paid versions available) you H can use the parser showing technical details to see where the parser is B detecting the spam coming from.  This is good for a postmortem to  improve your spam defenses.   G [Care is needed when reporting spam through spamcop.net. while usually  G accurate, it can by mistake allow you to report your own mailserver as   the source of the spam]   H As a mail message passes through each relay, a line is added by each to  indicate the path.  G The spamcop.net parser checks each line from the mail servers from the  G last one to see if every thing matches, and also checks several public  I reports to see if the alleged mail server is listed as a DHCP host, open   proxy, or open relay.   H If the spamcop.net parser finds a mis-match in what the relay claims to G be it's name and the names that it's DNS servers give for it, or if it  I finds that an open relay, open proxy, or apparent DHCP address, it stops  ( the parse and does not trust it further.  F It is a more sophisticated test than most spam filters, and while not D perfect, it is pretty accurate.  It does make the occasional error, C either due to software bugs, misconfigured DNS servers, or general  8 internet errors that can give incorrect DNS information.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 01:07:22 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>< Subject: Re: Upgrading Cluster from FDDI to Gigabit Ethernet2 Message-ID: <c98gna$4jt$2@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Rob Brooks wrote:   > norm.raphael@metso.com writes: >  > % >>Is SCS over FC announced/supported?  >  >  > No.  >  Yes    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 17:42:28 GMT - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 8 Subject: Re: [TCPIP] How to configure SMTP outgoing only@ Message-ID: <7dd5801ee2e488c72d10dbd492f0607a@news.teranews.com>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:2 > Is it possible to run TCPIP SMTP outgoing only ?  L You'd need to start the SMTP software normally (so that all logicals are setM for outbound stuff), and once starded, you might want to simply TCPIP DISABLE 
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