1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 04 Nov 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 612       Contents:( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing CLAMAV.NET on VMS  Developer Forum  Re: Developer Forum  Re: Developer Forum  Re: Developer Forum  Re: Developer Forum % Re: DS10L SCSI card - recommendations ( Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release# Service Contract for Alpha Hardware ' Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware ' Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware * Setting BATCH$RESTART within a 3GL program. Re: Setting BATCH$RESTART within a 3GL programP Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on P Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on : Technical Support Database Software for OpenVMS (or other)( Re: Undocumented (?) PCSI error messages V/A SMB client product source  Volume shadowing stalls...  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2004 14:56:38 -0800 % From: whohe@whoever.com (DL Phillips) 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing : Message-ID: <af0dc2ea.0411031456.1d361@posting.google.com>  v koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<+xP+qz78wfh8@eisner.encompasserve.org>...Y > In article <4187CADE.1040608@tsoft-inc.com>, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  > O > > I'd think, (there I go again), that the concept of competing with other OS  , > > vendors just might occur to a few at HP. > ; >    Well, that's true.  VMS doesn't compete with Windows.   >   A   Well, there's one of the problems, isn't it? Windows ends up in E places where it shouldn't be for *exactly* the reason that the people C who own VMS don't compete for the business. What does VMS *compete* A with, anyway? I'd have to say "Not much", right now. It should be D competing at every level: "From the desktop to the datacenter." But,B that subject's already been hashed to death in cov, so I'll say no more (nudge, nudge).    -Doug   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:23:52 -0600 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon) Subject: CLAMAV.NET on VMS1 Message-ID: <04110316235230@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>   - Has anyone installed CLAM AV software on VMS?      John "REBOOT" Brandon  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:30:19 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: Developer Forum, Message-ID: <eZednXwMUPNy0BTcRVn-3A@igs.net>  I Got a phone call recently from HP soliciting our attendance at one of the J Intel/HP Developer Forums....the one where they give you the Itanic at the end of the program.   ? Are others being solicited by telephone this way? Just curious.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:14:28 -0500 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> Subject: Re: Developer Forum- Message-ID: <418911F4.3057.583862E@localhost>   ) On 3 Nov 2004 at 16:30, John Smith wrote: G > Got a phone call recently from HP soliciting our attendance at one of B > the Intel/HP Developer Forums....the one where they give you the# > Itanic at the end of the program.  > A > Are others being solicited by telephone this way? Just curious.   D Yes -- I've been called for several opportunities.  They don't know  that I've ALREADY attended one.    Good idea, flawed execution...  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:26:47 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Developer Forum+ Message-ID: <2ut499F2d2b0gU1@uni-berlin.de>    John Smith wrote: G > Got a phone call recently from HP soliciting our attendance at one of B > the Intel/HP Developer Forums....the one where they give you the# > Itanic at the end of the program.  > A > Are others being solicited by telephone this way? Just curious.   < Yes, even though I attended the Toronto event two weeks ago.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 16:12:50 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: Developer Forum( Message-ID: <opsgwyvon6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  E On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:30:19 -0500, John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote:   K > Got a phone call recently from HP soliciting our attendance at one of the J > Intel/HP Developer Forums....the one where they give you the Itanic at   > the  > end of the program.  > A > Are others being solicited by telephone this way? Just curious.  >  >    Ditto.     --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 02:50:29 GMT 1 From: "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net>  Subject: Re: Developer Forum( Message-ID: <VNgid.116$xO1.111@trnddc08>  D I also got a call, but I think it's because I filled out a survey at	 HP-World.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 23:15:14 -0400 + From: Rodman S. Regier <rsr@hfx.andara.com> . Subject: Re: DS10L SCSI card - recommendations8 Message-ID: <rc7jo0prp2a29a4ptdhr48eiv8tc9cgvkg@4ax.com>  A On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:16:19 +1000, "Gremlin" <not-here@all.mate>  wrote:  L >Rather than using IDE (perhaps slow as in an earlier thread), could I have N >recommendations for a SCSI card for a 36/72Gb disk - third party if possible K >as I want to get one in the next day or so and can't access "real" Compaq   >cards.  Adaptec?   > My sources indicate that the 3X-KZPEA-DB and the Adaptec 39160  start life from the same source.  D I have successfuly used 39160's in DS10L's and booted 3rd party SCSIE U320 disks.  I'm using it with external disks, but you should be able ) to use with a single internal SCSI drive.         @ ................................................................:        Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access2              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<<@ -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:56:35 -0400 + From: Rodman S. Regier <rsr@hfx.andara.com> 1 Subject: Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release 8 Message-ID: <5s2jo0t9lh14nea4f70ms2qpqq7iie73e3@4ax.com>  B On 26 OCT 2004 15:44:55 GMT, karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) wrote:   G >In a previous article, "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc..com> wrote:  > M >->Yes.  All version of Samba 2.x for VMS have supported encrypted passwords.  >-> 9 >->"Tom Wade" <nospam@picard.eurokom.ie> wrote in message  >->>M >->> I didn't see mention of it in the release notes indicated, but does this L >->> version support encrypted passwords, so that Windows clients can use itB >->> without having to fiddle around with their registries first ? > H >While Michael is correct,  I think Tom might have meant the requirementI >for setting the "RequireSignorSeal" registry value to 0 in Windows XP. I E >believe this is relaxed in Samba 3. HP's Advanced Server (pathworks) 9 >hasn't addressed this either but I sure hope they will.    @ FWIW, I'm using SAMBA 2.2.8 with V/A 7.3-2 and out-of-the-box XP= workstations as far as any registry tuning specific to SAMBA.   : I had to have "last gasp" patches to Pathworks V5.0F ECO 2F to permit the password encryption support to work with XP workstations2 earlier (along with an earlier release of OpenVMS)        @ ................................................................:        Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access2              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<<@ -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2004 13:44:40 -0800 * From: morrisj@epsilon3.com (Jay E. Morris), Subject: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware= Message-ID: <8600a73e.0411031344.1b93617e@posting.google.com>   E My group has used DEC/Compaq/HP for service forever but another group D had let their service contract lapse.  Now they are trying to get itD started again but the AF contracting office requires three companiesC on the request.  Believe it or not, contracting will make the final * decision on who it goes to, not the users.  E But I digress and could bitch for pages and pages about contracting.  ? What I need is two companies providing hardware maintenance for F Alphas.  National companies would probably be best but if anyone knows0 of San Antonio, TX companies that'd be good too.  E And although I hate to ask and WILL BE checking the group frequently, F I would appreciate any responses being cc'd to jay.morris at brooks af mil.   Thanks.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 00:11:41 GMT 5 From: brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) 0 Subject: Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware- Message-ID: <0teid.52912$R05.49358@attbi_s53>   j In article <8600a73e.0411031344.1b93617e@posting.google.com>, morrisj@epsilon3.com (Jay E. Morris) writes:F !My group has used DEC/Compaq/HP for service forever but another groupE !had let their service contract lapse.  Now they are trying to get it E !started again but the AF contracting office requires three companies D !on the request.  Believe it or not, contracting will make the final+ !decision on who it goes to, not the users.  ! F !But I digress and could bitch for pages and pages about contracting. @ !What I need is two companies providing hardware maintenance forG !Alphas.  National companies would probably be best but if anyone knows 1 !of San Antonio, TX companies that'd be good too.   L SMS used to be a national presence for HW support.  I hear that they are OK.   Others will reply, I'm sure.   ! F !And although I hate to ask and WILL BE checking the group frequently,G !I would appreciate any responses being cc'd to jay.morris at brooks af  !mil.  !  !Thanks.  J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2004 20:56:41 -0600 4 From: kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow)0 Subject: Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware3 Message-ID: <f3VwgkZlu5yj@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <0teid.52912$R05.49358@attbi_s53>, brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) writes: N > SMS used to be a national presence for HW support.  I hear that they are OK.  K The place I used to work had them for the past 5 years. They did OK for us, F and their different strategy actually helped us out with a data centerJ relocation. Oh, yea, they were cheaper than DEC, and the contract was MUCH simpler.  1 	Bob Kaplow	NAR # 18L	TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" & 		>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<K Kaplow Klips & Baffle:	http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf L     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org    www.nar.org  1 	26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy 4 	Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/  B         They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little?         temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- A         Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania. 1759    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:09:27 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>3 Subject: Setting BATCH$RESTART within a 3GL program + Message-ID: <2uss7pF2fg1h3U1@uni-berlin.de>   F I have a large program which runs for several days and I would like toG use the BATCH$RESTART feature to restart the program if needed. Neither ? of the two methods I tried below (using LIB$SET_SYMBOL or using H LIB$SPAWN to do the SET RESTART_VALUE) seemed to work. I tried searchingG on ITRC for information but of course searching computer programs using / a Natural Language Search engine does not work.   F Does anyone know if there is a supported way to set BATCH$RESTART from within a program?    $ ty test_restart.com  $ show sym/glob $restart $ SHOW SYM/GLOB BATCH$RESTART  $ SET RESTART = 2  $ RUN TEST_RESTART $ ty test_restart.for         program test_restart         character*25 str_char        i = 1        do while (i .le. 32000)            i = i + 1< !          call sys$fao('!SL',str_char_siz,str_char,%val(i))? !          istatus = lib$set_symbol('batch$restart',str_char,2) ,            call sys$fao('set restart_value =# !SL',str_char_siz,str_char,%val(i)) (            istatus = lib$spawn(str_char)            type *, str_char          end do         END    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 16:41:19 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>7 Subject: Re: Setting BATCH$RESTART within a 3GL program + Message-ID: <2ut1k0F2g4jljU1@uni-berlin.de>    Peter Weaver wrote: H > I have a large program which runs for several days and I would like toA > use the BATCH$RESTART feature to restart the program if needed. C > Neither of the two methods I tried below (using LIB$SET_SYMBOL or F > using LIB$SPAWN to do the SET RESTART_VALUE) seemed to work. I triedD > searching on ITRC for information but of course searching computer@ > programs using a Natural Language Search engine does not work. > H > Does anyone know if there is a supported way to set BATCH$RESTART from > within a program?  >  > $ ty test_restart.com  > $ show sym/glob $restart > $ SHOW SYM/GLOB BATCH$RESTART  > $ SET RESTART = 2  > $ RUN TEST_RESTART > $ ty test_restart.for  >        program test_restart  >        character*25 str_char >        i = 1  >        do while (i .le. 32000) >            i = i + 1> > !          call sys$fao('!SL',str_char_siz,str_char,%val(i))A > !          istatus = lib$set_symbol('batch$restart',str_char,2) . >            call sys$fao('set restart_value =% > !SL',str_char_siz,str_char,%val(i)) * >            istatus = lib$spawn(str_char) >            type *, str_char  >         end do
 >         END     H Found it! Decided that it must be in $SNDJBC somewhere and after readingF that section of the System Services Manual I see that the answer is to8 use $SNDJBC with the function code SJC$_CHECKPOINT_DATA.  A My complaint about the ITRC Natural Language Search still stands.    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  * Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:07:20 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)Y Subject: Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on  $ Message-ID: <cmbkqn$93q$1@online.de>  5 In article <2s4upuF1gmnapU1@uni-berlin.de>, Roy Omond & <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> writes:   I > %LICENSE-E-NOAUTH, DEC OPENVMS-ALPHA use is not authorized on this node   F > Anyone else seen anything similar ?  (Hoff, what was the "problem" ? > Race condition ?)   F Perhaps related: I have the license database not on the system disk(s)H but rather on another disk (along with SYSUAF etc).  The idea is to haveI one license database for the entire cluster.  This works fine.  However,  I at startup I have to mount this disk (I do it in SYLOGICALS.COM; as soon  F as it is mounted, procedures on it are executed to define system-wide H logicals, mount all the other disks etc).  It is a shadow set.  I get a D message saying that there is no shadowing license available---true, E since the license database is on the shadow set which I am trying to  D mount.  Nevertheless, the shadow set DOES get mounted.  I'd like to ! understand what is going on here.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Nov 2004 21:51:32 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Y Subject: Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on  3 Message-ID: <pTtGNkBz$0VP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   w In article <cmbkqn$93q$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:   H > Perhaps related: I have the license database not on the system disk(s)J > but rather on another disk (along with SYSUAF etc).  The idea is to haveK > one license database for the entire cluster.  This works fine.  However,  K > at startup I have to mount this disk (I do it in SYLOGICALS.COM; as soon  H > as it is mounted, procedures on it are executed to define system-wide J > logicals, mount all the other disks etc).  It is a shadow set.  I get a F > message saying that there is no shadowing license available---true, G > since the license database is on the shadow set which I am trying to  F > mount.  Nevertheless, the shadow set DOES get mounted.  I'd like to # > understand what is going on here.   9 I believe the answer is "they thought of that situation".    ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:04:28 -05004 From: "Doug Kimball" <dougkimball@spammydavisjr.net>C Subject: Technical Support Database Software for OpenVMS (or other) 0 Message-ID: <10oiau6lqo7onda@corp.supernews.com>  2 I know this may be a bit off-topic, but here goes:  J Does anyone know of/use/have a technical support database software packageH that they use for their customer service department on OpenVMS that theyI really like? If so, please clue me in. If not, does anyone have a packahe I that they like on (gasp!) non-VMS systems? Our current product is ancient I and desupported, and when it dies, I think our data is going to be kaput.    Thanks.    Doug Software Partners, Inc.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 02:48:26 GMT 1 From: "Ken Randell" <kenneth.randell@verizon.net> 1 Subject: Re: Undocumented (?) PCSI error messages ' Message-ID: <_Lgid.114$xO1.92@trnddc08>   2 > I may have miss-quoted the enineer.  He replies: > 8 > Actually, the prior message actually stated following: > J > "The best and least risky solution is to reinstall the patch kit that isH > missing the critical pointer in PDB using my fix dated July 1st 2004."G >                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   L > Without that fix the reinstallation of the failing patch kit won't correctH > the problem.  One can only rebuild the PDB or get by while waiting forJ > the fix by installing patch kits after placing them "solo" in the source0 > directory (and this is strongly discouraged ).  D Sorry, I'm not parsing the above sentence, perhaps due to my lack ofH understanding of PCSI.  Does the above mean take my patch kits and placeJ them into individual directories and then install them?  Why would this beI 'strongly discouraged'?  I've never really seen any advice one way or the  other.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 22:05:09 -0400 + From: Rodman S. Regier <rsr@hfx.andara.com> & Subject: V/A SMB client product source8 Message-ID: <gc3jo0d1h8c4nk1p61sgv2o79f38r52chk@4ax.com>  4 My organization is performing a zero-based review ofD how we're performing file sharing access in a heterogenous operatingD system environment.  Server nodes I need to support onsite that haveF file repositories include Windows Server 2003 and OpenVMS/Alpha nodes.  E One of the options I am investigating is an SMB client product option E for OpenVMS/Alpha  that would map a Windows Server 2003 file share as ; something that looks like a disk drive on the OpenVMS node.   8 Could you point me to an "industrial grade" product that  would deliver such a capability?  7 n.b. I have seen the first-level info on Vector Network =      LANutil32  product which appears to be Jun/2000 vintage. *      http://www.vector-networks.com/luvms/:      I have concerns that it would not support current SMB9      protocol password encryption defaults that have been 5      added with the production release of Windows XP.    Thanks        @ ................................................................:        Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access2              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<<@ -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 20:01:01 -0500# From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@comcast.net> # Subject: Volume shadowing stalls... - Message-ID: <cmbuuu$uju@library1.airnews.net>   L Sometimes we get very very long merge operations that seem to take days evenI though the system is quiet.... I think there is a back-off sensitivity to K systenm I/O that is perhaps getting triggered.... has anyone seen this sort E of thing ,. lots of memory and page resources of all sorts  NPAGE and  PAGEDYN... 7.3-1 current patch   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.612 ************************