1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 06 Nov 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 616       Contents:. Freeware V6 won't mount on old versions of VMS2 Re: Freeware V6 won't mount on old versions of VMS+ Re: MSL5026 Tape lib with OpenVMS & Windows ? Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner ? Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner  Performance Tuning Re: Performance Tuning' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility ' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility ' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility ' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility ' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility ( Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release' Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware ' Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware  Re: Stray Symbiont ProcessesP Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on > Re: Technical Support Database Software for OpenVMS (or other) Re: Time Change  Re: Volume shadowing stalls...P Re: We have Juvio: Computer Glitches? Rent your own tech. 24 hours a day, 7 days  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 5 Nov 2004 12:37:42 -0600 4 From: kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow)7 Subject: Freeware V6 won't mount on old versions of VMS 3 Message-ID: <7NWhuiyCx4yN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   J Not sure if this is a 'bug' or a 'feature', but I just discovered that theL VMS Freeware V6 CD is incompatible with older versions of VMS. It looks likeK the problem is that the disk was INITed with a cluster size of 1, resulting C in too many clusters on the disk to be mapped by 'traditional' VMS.   D I couldn't mount it on my 7.1-2 system, but could mount it on 7.3-2.  1 	Bob Kaplow	NAR # 18L	TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" & 		>>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<K Kaplow Klips & Baffle:	http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf L     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org    www.nar.org  1 	26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy 4 	Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/  K         "For as adamant as my country has been about civil liberties duirng I         peacetime, it has a long history ... of failing to preserve civil J         liberties when it perceived its national security threatened." -- 4         former Supreme Court Justice William Brennan   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:00:55 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>; Subject: Re: Freeware V6 won't mount on old versions of VMS + Message-ID: <418C3E66.C8717939@comcast.net>    Bob Kaplow wrote:  > L > Not sure if this is a 'bug' or a 'feature', but I just discovered that theN > VMS Freeware V6 CD is incompatible with older versions of VMS. It looks likeM > the problem is that the disk was INITed with a cluster size of 1, resulting E > in too many clusters on the disk to be mapped by 'traditional' VMS.  > F > I couldn't mount it on my 7.1-2 system, but could mount it on 7.3-2.  C I could see that. At a /CLUSTER_SIZE of .GT. 1, you end up a lot of * wasted space on a volume with many files.   E With the capacity disparity between DVD and CD, that's a tough one to 
 live with.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:45:49 -0600# From: "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> 4 Subject: Re: MSL5026 Tape lib with OpenVMS & Windows< Message-ID: <yqTid.4$eu6.3@newsfe07.lga.highwinds-media.com>  0 Thanks for you suggestions. Here is what we did.  J We compromised and selected the "RANDOM" mode so the windows system could  use the library.M The library's web interface allows us to manually move tapes each day on the  E OpenVMS side. Since our backups only use one tape, it works out okay.    Thanks,   	 Dan Moore     / "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> wrote in message  8 news:rcthd.81$_l2.35@newsfe10.lga.highwinds-media.com... > Greetings! >  >  > I > We have a MSL5026 Tape library we would like to share with our windows  	 > server:  > H >  a.. Drive 0 of the library is direct attached SCSI to the VMS system.K >  b.. Drive 1 (and robot controller) is direct SCSI to the windows system.  >  c.. Drive 2,3 empty. = >  d.. We are close to starting our first SAN implementation.  >  e.. SDLT 320 DrivesM > The VMS systems have used the library in "SEQENTIAL SPLIT" mode just fine.  I > The drive acts like a loader, so mount/dismount loads the next tape in    > line in a predictable fashion. >  >  > E > Our dilemma is the MODE setting on the library. The windows backup  J > software, Backup Exec, requires the mode to be "RANDOM". We switched to G > random mode and discovered that VMS mount/dismounts commands will no  / > longer load the next tape in line on Drive 0.  >  >  > H > I'm reluctant to use special client/server software to backup our VMS L > systems. VMS Backup has worked well for years; however, we have plenty of M > capacity on this library. Currently, the VMS backups fit on one tape using  L > compaction. The windows backups require about 4 tapes for a full, and one  > tape for daily incrementals. >  >  > L > Any ideas on how to make this work? Solutions that use SAN components are 
 > welcome. >  >  > - > Thanks in advance for you helpful comments.  >  >  >  > Dan Moore  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:40:03 -0600# From: "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> H Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner< Message-ID: <4lTid.3$Ac7.2@newsfe07.lga.highwinds-media.com>   Check out STUNNEL for OpenVMS.  E It let's you wrap a SSL "Tunnel" around any unsecured TCP/IP session. < http://h71000.www7.hp.com/opensource/opensource.html#stunnel http://www.stunnel.org  	 Dan Moore     . "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> wrote in message 7 news:8_2dnZW2Funf4RfcRVn-1w@metrocastcablevision.com... C > greetings - Healthcare Environment, regularly 'share' files with   > Government
 > and Private I > (Commercial) healthcare organizations. Am anticipating a requirement to 
 > 'SECURE'H > data transmissions and would like to know if OpenVMS tools capable of  > Secure > transmissions are available.' > Thanks in advance for any information  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:54:12 GMT 5 From: brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) H Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner- Message-ID: <TgVid.301635$wV.14649@attbi_s54>   b In article <4lTid.3$Ac7.2@newsfe07.lga.highwinds-media.com>, "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> writes: !Check out STUNNEL for OpenVMS.  ! F !It let's you wrap a SSL "Tunnel" around any unsecured TCP/IP session.= !http://h71000.www7.hp.com/opensource/opensource.html#stunnel  !http://www.stunnel.org  ! 
 !Dan Moore !   N I was excited; (having a similar need) however, the README clearly states that" SSL for OpenVMS is a prerequisite.  J Unfortunately for the OP, (and for me) SSL needs V7.3-1 (or higher) of VMS; (V7.3 VAX).  The subject line posted by the OP reads "V7.2"    sigh...    ! / !"BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> wrote in message  8 !news:8_2dnZW2Funf4RfcRVn-1w@metrocastcablevision.com...D !> greetings - Healthcare Environment, regularly 'share' files with 
 !> Government  !> and PrivateJ !> (Commercial) healthcare organizations. Am anticipating a requirement to !> 'SECURE' I !> data transmissions and would like to know if OpenVMS tools capable of  	 !> Secure  !> transmissions are available. ( !> Thanks in advance for any information !> !>   !  !   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Nov 2004 19:08:04 -0800 ' From: timasmith@hotmail.com (Tim Smith)  Subject: Performance Tuning = Message-ID: <a7234bb1.0411051908.16c55b8d@posting.google.com>    Hi,   D Is there any online material, perhaps the relevant Compaq manuals on? performance tuning - measuring, system parameters, tuning etc.?    thanks   Tim    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:22:30 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Performance Tuning + Message-ID: <418C4376.5C5D02DF@comcast.net>    Tim Smith wrote: >  > Hi,  > F > Is there any online material, perhaps the relevant Compaq manuals onA > performance tuning - measuring, system parameters, tuning etc.?   A If you look at the on-line docset, you should find information on B performance management. It was a whole separate volume at one time! (OpenVMS Performance Management).   3 There's no simple cookbook that I know of, however.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:28:28 GMT 6 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net>0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility> Message-ID: <MUUid.18298$6q2.13481@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>  K At my larger customers, where I have shadowing licenses, I do exactly that. < It's the smaller and mid-sized customers where copy is used.  G If BACKUP would only accept something like:  "$BACKUP MY$DATABASE:*.DAT H BACKUP_DISK:DB.BCK/SAVE " (or to tape) that would be nifty.  Last time IF fiddled with this and talked to Colorardo, BACKUP won't span a logical defined over multiple disks.     --       Andy Bustamante  Remove the ASCII 95s for e-mail     ? "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:418AFBB6.597165CB@comcast.net...  > Andy Bustamante wrote: > > J > > We use copy every night.  On the majority of my sites, I create a disk> > > backup ($ copy my$database:*.dat /excl=big_static_file.dat my$backup:*.* ) K > > In  large cases this takes 30-45 minutes and adds to a downtime window.  The J > > backup files are then used to create a tape backup.  This reduces down timeL > > and reduces the number of disks that BACKUP does i/o on.  In my example,2 > > my$database is defined to span multiple disks. >  > Andy,  > D > I realize it may not fit your budget, but splitting shadow-sets orI > mirror-sets (takes a second or two, or ten) would be a VAST improvement  > over that! >  > --   > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:30:18 +0000 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> 0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility* Message-ID: <418C373A.7080508@bigpond.com>  % Andy Bustamante was overheard to say: M > At my larger customers, where I have shadowing licenses, I do exactly that. > > It's the smaller and mid-sized customers where copy is used. > I > If BACKUP would only accept something like:  "$BACKUP MY$DATABASE:*.DAT J > BACKUP_DISK:DB.BCK/SAVE " (or to tape) that would be nifty.  Last time IH > fiddled with this and talked to Colorardo, BACKUP won't span a logical > defined over multiple disks.  $ The following seems to work (V7.3-2)  * $ define listlog dka0:[test],dka100:[test]& $ copy sys$login:login.com dka0:[test]( $ copy sys$login:login.com dka100:[test]> $ backup listlog:*.com dka400:[000000]test.bck/save/log/verify# %S, copied DKA0:[TEST]LOGIN.COM;200 % %S, copied DKA100:[TEST]LOGIN.COM;200  %I, starting verification pass% %S, compared DKA0:[TEST]LOGIN.COM;200 ' %S, compared DKA100:[TEST]LOGIN.COM;200      Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:53:17 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility+ Message-ID: <418C3C9D.1DED17B8@comcast.net>    Andy Bustamante wrote: > M > At my larger customers, where I have shadowing licenses, I do exactly that. > > It's the smaller and mid-sized customers where copy is used. > I > If BACKUP would only accept something like:  "$BACKUP MY$DATABASE:*.DAT J > BACKUP_DISK:DB.BCK/SAVE " (or to tape) that would be nifty.  Last time IH > fiddled with this and talked to Colorardo, BACKUP won't span a logical > defined over multiple disks.  F If you mean that the TARGET is a search list, then that I could see. I0 can't think of any kind of work-around just now.  F That said, if you were to convert the search list to a comma-separatedH list of logical names, and make the output operand of the BACKUP commandH match the documented syntax for sequential savesets, well, that might be
 one solution.   E Otherwise, you'd need to specify a volume-set as the output target in 2 order to get the saveset to span multiple volumes.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:57:39 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility+ Message-ID: <418C3DA3.78557240@comcast.net>    Jim Strehlow wrote:  > d > "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com> wrote in message news:<418a0010@usenet01.boi.hp.com>...5 > ...performance improvements for the copy utility...  >  > Can you increase9 >  - the largest block size previously created by $BACKUP I >    Currently I can only $COPY a backup saveset up to 32256 blocks large   F I believe that's an RMS limitation. Dunno if they can work around that without a major effort.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:40:40 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility- Message-ID: <87y8hf66on.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   . JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) writes:  d > "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com> wrote in message news:<418a0010@usenet01.boi.hp.com>...5 > ...performance improvements for the copy utility...    > Can you increase9 >  - the largest block size previously created by $BACKUP I >    Currently I can only $COPY a backup saveset up to 32256 blocks large   F RMS stupidity. Don't ask... This one has been kicked for over 20 years
 so far! :(   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:18:51 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>1 Subject: Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release + Message-ID: <418C429B.7083224A@comcast.net>    "John E. Malmberg" wrote:  > [snip] >  That is, unless you want toB >     test SAMBA on OpenVMS I64.  In which case, I can not produce# >     binaries for that now anyway.   7 I take it the test-drive machines are not an option...?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:31:11 -0000> From: "Alex Daniels" <Alex(nospamthanks)Daniels@themail.co.uk>0 Subject: Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware6 Message-ID: <418bff32$0$27536$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  = "Keith Cayemberg" <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> wrote in message < news:418be971$0$22609$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net... ><SNIP>  > D >        - IBM has a contract with HP (actually made with Compaq) toD >          to work together in making HP systems compatible with ESS@ >          (shark) and IBM systems compatible with StorageWorks. > 5 > IBM also develops Software which runs on OpenVMS...  >  <SNIP>  C Does the Shark support SCSI READL/WRITEL and the forced error flag?   H If yes, can you post the output of a SDA> sh dev ddcu (on a Shark served disk).   Thanks   Alex   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Nov 2004 17:27:13 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 0 Subject: Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware3 Message-ID: <b5124EhKFsKh@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <418be971$0$22609$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>, Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> writes:   & > IBM SCR - Security Controls Reporter1 > http://sdsg.lagaude.ibm.com/sdsgSCR/ScrRoot.htm . > IBM SCR - Download Extractors - SECAUDIT_VMSQ > http://sdsg.lagaude.ibm.com/sdsgSCR/download_extractor/ScrExtractorDownload.htm   D From two different positions on the Internet I get the equivalent of  + > NEWS> spawn nslookup sdsg.lagaude.ibm.com  >  > Spawning subprocess  > Server:  LOCALHOST > Address:  127.0.0.1  > I > *** LOCALHOST can't find SDSG.LAGAUDE.IBM.COM: Non-existent host/domain  >  > <Return> to continue NEWS    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:10:17 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>% Subject: Re: Stray Symbiont Processes + Message-ID: <418C4099.DAD1D619@comcast.net>    David J Dachtera wrote:  >  > "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > > L > > Has anyone else seen this: "orphan" symbiont processes. I have 171 printJ > > queues, and I've seen as many as 233 symbiont processes (no wonder I'm# > > running out of process slots!).  > > C > > I put in the recommended patch kits for STREAMSYMB and the SMTP ' > > symbiont, but still getting strays.  > >  > > Anyone else seen this? > >  > > VMS Alpha V7.3 > > Mnet V4.3 Rev A-X % > > Alpha 2100 2GB RAM, 3 300MHz CPUs  > > App is Classic Radnet  > 	 > Update:  > G > Process Support suggested a couple of Multinet patches for the stream   > and SMTP symbionts. No change. > F > VMS Support suggested a slough of patches, all nine were applied. No	 > change.  >  > Anyone have any other ideas?   YAU (Yet Another Update)...   D It seems we may have had a user problem resulting in a possible race> condition. Not sure if its in the Queue Manager or what. Still investigating...   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:21:20 -0000> From: "Alex Daniels" <Alex(nospamthanks)Daniels@themail.co.uk>Y Subject: Re: Sys$Startup:License_Check.Exe (revisited) - OPENVMS-ALPHA not authorized on  5 Message-ID: <418bfce4$0$1161$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:pTtGNkBz$0VP@eisner.encompasserve.org... F > In article <cmbkqn$93q$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de2 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: > J > > Perhaps related: I have the license database not on the system disk(s)L > > but rather on another disk (along with SYSUAF etc).  The idea is to haveL > > one license database for the entire cluster.  This works fine.  However,L > > at startup I have to mount this disk (I do it in SYLOGICALS.COM; as soonI > > as it is mounted, procedures on it are executed to define system-wide K > > logicals, mount all the other disks etc).  It is a shadow set.  I get a G > > message saying that there is no shadowing license available---true, H > > since the license database is on the shadow set which I am trying toG > > mount.  Nevertheless, the shadow set DOES get mounted.  I'd like to % > > understand what is going on here.  > ; > I believe the answer is "they thought of that situation".   I Yes, but I also believe in recent versions if you don't subsequently load I the license it spam's to OPCOM after an hour or so, then expels a member.    Alex   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:40:19 -0000> From: "Alex Daniels" <Alex(nospamthanks)Daniels@themail.co.uk>G Subject: Re: Technical Support Database Software for OpenVMS (or other) 5 Message-ID: <418c0157$0$1158$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>   ? "Doug Kimball" <dougkimball@spammydavisjr.net> wrote in message * news:10oiau6lqo7onda@corp.supernews.com...4 > I know this may be a bit off-topic, but here goes: > L > Does anyone know of/use/have a technical support database software packageJ > that they use for their customer service department on OpenVMS that theyK > really like? If so, please clue me in. If not, does anyone have a packahe K > that they like on (gasp!) non-VMS systems? Our current product is ancient K > and desupported, and when it dies, I think our data is going to be kaput.  > 	 > Thanks.  >  > Doug > Software Partners, Inc.  >   I Digital had their NICE system (which Compaq dumped in favour of Emerald). I Don't know if its for sale, I know it ran on VAX, don't know about Alpha. 
 www.hp.com  E Cristal Software have a great package that runs on VMS (VAX,Alpha and L Itanium), can access it via a VT with ANSI, or via XWindows, or if you must,G with a PC app front end going back to the database on VMS. Lots of good 5 reporting etc.. http://www.cristal.co.uk/defaulte.htm    Alex   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 20:46:06 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Time Change+ Message-ID: <418C3AEE.276A3E9B@comcast.net>    David J Dachtera wrote:  > 
 > Bill wrote:  > > H > > We are running OpenVMS 7.2-1.  I have to manually change the TDF andH > > system time twice a year for the Standard Time/Daylight Savings TimeD > > change.  Should the system be able to handle this automatically? > H > Depends. For some applications, its infeasible to repeat a clock hour. > A > That said, the method I'll be employing tonight goes like this:  >   >  1. Disable (Multinet's X)NTP./ >  2. DEASSIGN the SYS$TIMEZONE* logical names.  >  3. Change the system time. , >  4. Invoke SYS$STARTUP:TDF$UTC_STARTUP.COM# >  5. Re-enable and restart (X)NTP.  > H > 2-4 are done via SYSMAN and happen in rapid succession. 1 can still beJ > part of the automated procedure; however, MULTINET:START_SERVER.COM doesH > not run from SYSMAN - SUBMIT 5 to a node-specific batch queue instead.  G Based on this year's experience, I think I have found that the sequence  of events is important.   E The sequence listed above is fine for the "Spring Ahead" time change.   G For the "Fall back" time change, however, a slightly different sequence 
 is needed:  ?  1. Disable (Multinet's X)NTP. Stop any remains (X)NTP daemons. )  - WAIT until after 02:00 Daylight time - -  2. DEASSIGN the SYS$TIMEZONE* logical names. *  3. Invoke SYS$STARTUP:TDF$UTC_STARTUP.COM)  4. Change the system time back one hour. !  5. Re-enable and restart (X)NTP. F  - DO Not Reboot until after 02:00 Standard Time or the SYS$TIMEZONE_*; LNMs will revert back to their daylight saving time values.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 18:10:26 -0500# From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@comcast.net> ' Subject: Re: Volume shadowing stalls... - Message-ID: <cmh184$uk3@library2.airnews.net>    OK, Stupid user trick...  L   The disk giving the issue had a pagefile on it... so much for hot spots..!G Looks like the right way to do things is to boot the system and add the H pagefiles after the volume merges (usually not long)... We would like toI have the page files on shadowed volumes so a disk issue does not kill the I processes using that file.. it seems the age old question of how to get a K pagefile fully closed before the system shuts down... did 'they' ever solve 	 that one?       > "Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message, news:BqPid.2442$AR2.1826@news.cpqcorp.net... > Hal Kuff wrote: K > > Sometimes we get very very long merge operations that seem to take days  evenJ > > though the system is quiet.... I think there is a back-off sensitivity to5 > > systenm I/O that is perhaps getting triggered....  > 2 > In the original design for Volume Shadowing (seeJ > http://www.research.compaq.com/wrl/DECarchives/DTJ/DTJ301/DTJ301SC.TXT),I > it was felt that the impact of merge I/Os by the Shadow_Server would be H > the primary detrimental effect on application I/O performance during aH > Merge. As a result, Shadowing was designed to throttle back merge I/OsE > in the presence of application I/Os. The thresholds also seem to be F > implemented in such a way that with today's fast I/O configurations,@ > this defensive reaction is often triggered too readily, so theI > recommendation seems to be that the SHAD$MERGE_DELAY* logical names may ! > be needed to get good behavior.  > J > In my studies recently, it appears the worst impact during Merges is notF > the merge I/Os, but the need for repeated merges of areas with "hot"J > read activity that are ahead of the merge fence. And throttling back theE > merge I/Os just prolongs the agony, as it slows the progress of the * > merge fence across the disk surface. See8 > http://www2.openvms.org/kparris/s2003_volshad_perf.ppt > G > Of course, the best solution would be for you to upgrade to 7.3-2 and = > install the Host-Based Mini-Merge (HBMM) kit for Shadowing.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:43:37 -0000> From: "Alex Daniels" <Alex(nospamthanks)Daniels@themail.co.uk>Y Subject: Re: We have Juvio: Computer Glitches? Rent your own tech. 24 hours a day, 7 days 6 Message-ID: <418c021e$0$27543$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  ! <sales@asan.com> wrote in message 7 news:BxZhd.39967$Jb.1197983@twister.southeast.rr.com...  > http://tinyurl.com/3rcs4 > H > We have Juvio: Computer Glitches? Rent your own tech. The Juvio Single Service PlanH > is perfect for the user looking to get their computer related problems solved at anytime,I > 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.Computers are here to help make your life 
 easier andL > more efficient. Wasting valuable time on a computer system that is down is very frustrating. F >  If you're in need of computer assistance, don't waste any more time rummaging through J > manuals or waiting on hold for someone whose focus is to get you off the phone quickly.' > Call in the professionals from Juvio!  >  > http://tinyurl.com/3rcs4 > www.gamerschoice.biz >   A >>Wasting valuable time on a computer system that is down is very  frustrating.     I agree, that why I run VMS.   Alex   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.616 ************************