1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 07 Nov 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 619       Contents:/ Attaching code to the root windows (DECwindows) ( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing- Re: how to implement an append only log file? - Re: how to implement an append only log file? ! Re: LNM$SYSCLUSTER_TABLE question  Need help with a PeeCee again." Re: Need help with a PeeCee again." Re: Need help with a PeeCee again." Re: Need help with a PeeCee again." Re: Need help with a PeeCee again.? Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner  Re: Performance Tuning' Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility L Stupid Americans!  --  Stupid... Stupid... STUPID!!!  __________-+__  oqyzci2 VTfm - new release 2.2-9: speed up Copy operation.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:30:54 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 8 Subject: Attaching code to the root windows (DECwindows)+ Message-ID: <418E076D.9E3EF99@teksavvy.com>   N In the traditional desktop (available on vax, not the CDE one), is it possibleL to attach code to the root windows which creates a few widgets on it and can respond to it ?   K For instance, a clock which displays directly on the root window, or a text K widget in which you can paste some error message and it would automatically M use the built-in help widget to fetch the relevant message (eg: help/message) 
 etc etc etc ?   L Another use would be to place commonly used directories in text widgets that make it easy to cut/paste from.   K Would such mini-app]lications ahve to reside ion a single detached process, L could they be all separate processes, or would they have to be linked to the session manager ?   K And when XV sets the ropot window's image, is that set as a background over O whcih any widget would appear, or does the root window only have a foreground ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 05:50:11 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing ( Message-ID: <opsg3kpxmvzgicya@hyrrokkin>  + On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:37:36 +0000, Garry   ( <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> wrote:  1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: 6 >> In article <clh28b$f1n$1@news.netkonect.net>, Garry, >> <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> writes:K >>> 	I'm considering using OpenVMS for a web server, it'll be for a small   D >>> commercial company, so I'm not sure if I can get away with the   >>> Hobbyist licence. ! >>   You can't and you shouldn't.  >> > L > I've been conversing with a chap from HP, he has been quite helpful with  % > regard to getting a cheap solution.  > J >>> Right now I don't want to sign my soul over to HP just for a pricing  G >>> quote, so can someone give me a ball-park figure for OpenVMS on a   L >>> single processor 1U rackmount? Something like a DS10L, or if I can get  L >>> one cheap, a supported Itanium machine. I figure I can get the machine  7 >>> off eBay, so it's just the OS I need the quote for. H >>   Consider that something like a VAXstation 4000 might be more than  H >> fast enough for your needs.  The excellent OSU server by Dave Jones  I >> runs fine on VAX.  Or do you need new hardware so you have support?    K >> Consider getting a dozen VAXstations, which you should be able to find   H >> for next to nothing; if one goes, just replace the whole box.  (I'm  F >> assuming you would be running the web server in a cluster, so the  2 >> customers wouldn't notice if a node goes down.) >> > K > The machine will go in a rented rackspace company, so has to be 1U, and   G > has to be reliable. VAX does not interest me, in fact I was kind of   G > hoping to go right onto IA64 and skip Alpha. I would not be using a   : > cluster, I'm only paying for a single unit of rackspace.  I Have you considered an (Intel | AMD)-based blade running CHARON-VAX under H Windows or SIMH VAX VMS under Linux?  I have a version of the latter andF on a meager 500MHz P3 it tests out about the same as VAX 4000/90.  YouK can buy a quad Opteron at 3.6 MHz for under $8,000 and From SRI you can get E an emulator for VAX 6630 and I'll bet it will outperform any Itanium.   G As for Web servers, I have no experience with OSU, but WASD which I use  is top-notch > I > For the moment, OpenVMS is not going to be cost-effective for me, but   J > I'm not ruling it out for future projects, which will have security as  9 > no.1 priority (cost is no.1 priority for this project).  >  > Cheers >  > Garry        --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:20:36 -00006 From: "Alex Daniels" <AlexNoSpamDaniels@themail.co.uk>1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing 6 Message-ID: <418e3d46$0$27546$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message" news:opsg3kpxmvzgicya@hyrrokkin...+ > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:37:36 +0000, Garry * > <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> wrote: <SNIP> >  YouI > can buy a quad Opteron at 3.6 MHz for under $8,000 and From SRI you can  get G > an emulator for VAX 6630 and I'll bet it will outperform any Itanium.  >   L An entry level rx1600 Itanium box, will certainly come in lower than the $8kL you quote for the peecee (and without any additional emulator costs either).  I If you really think a VAX 6630 emulated or otherwise, will outperform any D Itanium that supports VMS, please provide some benchmark collateral.   Alex   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:36:11 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing ( Message-ID: <opsg3u6ln6zgicya@hyrrokkin>  1 On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 15:20:36 -0000, Alex Daniels   ( <AlexNoSpamDaniels@themail.co.uk> wrote:   >  YouJ >> can buy a quad Opteron at 3.6 MHz for under $8,000 and From SRI you can > get H >> an emulator for VAX 6630 and I'll bet it will outperform any Itanium. >>L > An entry level rx1600 Itanium box, will certainly come in lower than the   > $8k G > you quote for the peecee (and without any additional emulator costs   
 > either).K > If you really think a VAX 6630 emulated or otherwise, will outperform any F > Itanium that supports VMS, please provide some benchmark collateral.  . Well, I did say, "I'll bet"  Maybe a dollar:-)   --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 14:03:44 +0000 (UTC). From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com>6 Subject: Re: how to implement an append only log file?, Message-ID: <cmla00$rn3$1@reader1.panix.com>  I On 5 Nov 2004 23:42:49 -0800, Josef Jarousse <bonzinib60@arcor.de> wrote:  > I have the following problem: G > I design a system and I would like it to trace each action the system E > does. Especially it would be important that even the programm calls G > from the admin are logged too. What I want is a log file which has an E > owner that is different from the admin (internal audit for example) E > and in which the application writes some informations about started H > modules etc.. This log file should be "append-only" so that nobody can > delete some entries in it.. > Is there a way to implement such a log file?  G If you really want to create such a log file, you would need to modify    the OpenVMS system code so that F   1. no one, not even a fully privileged user ("admin" ?), could turn   off logging (audit events?), and=   2. send the log entries to another machine which is solely  D controlled by "internal audit", whoever that might be.  This way, a B fully privileged user could not delete entries.  Of course, there F would have to be some sort of handshake that ensures that the entries C were going to the correct logging machine, something like what ssh  ? does to ensure that the connectionis being made to the correct   machine.  > Not easy, but I think it's doable.  But it certainly requires $ modification to OpenVMS system code.   --  7 Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> (lose the Q's)    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2004 08:44:54 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 6 Subject: Re: how to implement an append only log file?3 Message-ID: <T97zl1VLHPrI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <cmla00$rn3$1@reader1.panix.com>, Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> writes:   I > If you really want to create such a log file, you would need to modify  " > the OpenVMS system code so that H >   1. no one, not even a fully privileged user ("admin" ?), could turn " > off logging (audit events?), and  & That is impossible.  CMKRNL beats all.  ? >   2. send the log entries to another machine which is solely  F > controlled by "internal audit", whoever that might be.  This way, a D > fully privileged user could not delete entries.  Of course, there H > would have to be some sort of handshake that ensures that the entries E > were going to the correct logging machine, something like what ssh  A > does to ensure that the connectionis being made to the correct  
 > machine. > @ > Not easy, but I think it's doable.  But it certainly requires & > modification to OpenVMS system code.  D To the extent that VMS code can be modified as authorized, it can be modified without authorization.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 03:46:42 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> * Subject: Re: LNM$SYSCLUSTER_TABLE question, Message-ID: <418DE0CE.F4D17B25@teksavvy.com>   David J Dachtera wrote: E > In such case, then, I should think that Phillip's example should be @ > forwarded to Engineering for a review. He shows two successiveD > DEFINE/<cluster> commands, with no %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE message, which8 > should indicate some kind of bug, errr, "feature", no?  I When the cluster logical came out, not sure if it was in release notes or N elsewhere, but there was some documentation on how the propagation worked. AndM I may have dreamed this, but there was some kind of options to change how the 0 propagation was done. Distant memory now though.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 14:22:46 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG' Subject: Need help with a PeeCee again. 0 Message-ID: <00A3A833.DC5B2D91@SendSpamHere.ORG>  M My wife has scanned 1000s of pictures and cleaned them up using PhotoShop Pro  on a -- eeek -- PeeCee.   K She burned them to CDs for me and I cannot read them on VMS.  All the names 9 have a ~ in them and gobbledegook alphanumeric scrambles.   3 How can she put these on CD that I can access them.         ) I can't wait until I can get her the G5.     --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2004 08:46:41 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) + Subject: Re: Need help with a PeeCee again. 3 Message-ID: <opruwZ5K6h6s@eisner.encompasserve.org>    Some people never learn.  U In article <00A3A833.DC5B2D91@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: O > My wife has scanned 1000s of pictures and cleaned them up using PhotoShop Pro  > on a -- eeek -- PeeCee.  > M > She burned them to CDs for me and I cannot read them on VMS.  All the names ; > have a ~ in them and gobbledegook alphanumeric scrambles.  > 5 > How can she put these on CD that I can access them.   C By transferring them to a Macintosh and using Toast.  (I use V3.5).    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 11:00:27 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> + Subject: Re: Need help with a PeeCee again. , Message-ID: <3tadnZlE1uAA2xPcRVn-oQ@igs.net>    VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:A > My wife has scanned 1000s of pictures and cleaned them up using ' > PhotoShop Pro on a -- eeek -- PeeCee.  > G > She burned them to CDs for me and I cannot read them on VMS.  All the A > names have a ~ in them and gobbledegook alphanumeric scrambles.  > 5 > How can she put these on CD that I can access them.      How long are the file names?  L Some PC software does weird stuff when confronted wth long file names. I useC Ahead Nero to burn CD's from my PC and it cannot properly deal with J filenames > 64 characters as is common with URL's that one might save in aK Favorites folder or in image format files where there is a common root (ie. * First Time Riding a Horse - DSCM00002.jpg)  I Another issue might be allowable character differences between the PC and K VMS. Some CD burning software have settings which force strict ISO standard C compliance and will make character substitutions in the file names.   G Try having her save a few name them in 8.3 format (ie. pict0001.jpg  or K .tif) and a few with longer file names and see what happens on the VMS side  of the equation.  L There are a few shareware programs for PC's which will allow you to truncateJ file names to an arbitrary length but you have to watch out for uniqueness of the resulting file names.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:49:01 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>+ Subject: Re: Need help with a PeeCee again. + Message-ID: <418E51FC.3853B6DE@comcast.net>   ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > O > My wife has scanned 1000s of pictures and cleaned them up using PhotoShop Pro  > on a -- eeek -- PeeCee.  > M > She burned them to CDs for me and I cannot read them on VMS.  All the names ; > have a ~ in them and gobbledegook alphanumeric scrambles.   G Well, more than likely, she burned to a "Joliet" format CD (Micro$lop's 5 proprietary variant of ISO-9660). So, you're screwed.   5 > How can she put these on CD that I can access them.   @ Depending which CD burning program she's using, try reburning inF ISO-9660. That may shake out some of the non-compliant names and force them to changed at burn-time.   H When you MOUNT it, then, you'll have to specify /UNDEF= per the HELP forH MOUNT so the files are seen as Fixed-512. Mac is less likely to choke on	 it, also.   H Interesting that Joliet, IL is the home of the state penitentiary. Aptly named CD format, is it not?    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 12:54:41 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> + Subject: Re: Need help with a PeeCee again. , Message-ID: <418E6160.D34193AD@teksavvy.com>  ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > O > My wife has scanned 1000s of pictures and cleaned them up using PhotoShop Pro  > on a -- eeek -- PeeCee.    Cause for divorce :-)     M > She burned them to CDs for me and I cannot read them on VMS.  All the names ; > have a ~ in them and gobbledegook alphanumeric scrambles.   K You are seeing the raw 8.3 names of the Microsoft extended file system. You 5 need a Joliet extension of ISO CDs to see full names.   5 > How can she put these on CD that I can access them.   ? Could she not copy the contents with FTP over to your machine ?   * > I can't wait until I can get her the G5.  L One of those rare occasions where the husband can shape the wife to fit him.& Usually works the other way around :-)   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 16:14:12 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.ukH Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner) Message-ID: <cmlhkk$66d$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   b In article <4lTid.3$Ac7.2@newsfe07.lga.highwinds-media.com>, "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> writes: >Check out STUNNEL for OpenVMS.  > F >It let's you wrap a SSL "Tunnel" around any unsecured TCP/IP session.= >http://h71000.www7.hp.com/opensource/opensource.html#stunnel  >http://www.stunnel.org  >   2 However there are problems with using it with FTP. From the README_VMS.TXT file         " - Requirements (for "Stunnel 3.26 for OpenVMS")   - Alpha or VAX (  - OpenVMS Alpha version 7.2-2 or higher
         or$    OpenVMS VAX version 7.3 or higher!  - SSL V1.1 for OpenVMS or higher %  - Compaq/DEC C version 6.4 or higher O     (Note: Executable images for Alpha & VAX are provided with this kit. You do  not G            need the C compiler unless you build another Stunnel image.)   - TCP/IP version 5.3 or higher   
 !!! IMPORTANT B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!F   Stunnel cannot be used to secure FTP with TCP/IP v5.3 ECO 2 or later	 versions. O   Use SRCP (see instructions below) with these versions of TCP/IP over Stunnel. *   Also SSH is available for OpenVMS Alpha.;   (http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ssh/ssh.html) P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "   8 and even with earlier versions of TCP/IP than v5.3 ECO 2   "       !! Notes:F         Stunnel can secure only the control channel of FTP. This meansK         the username & password are encrypted with Stunnel, but transferred /         file data transferred is not encrypted.   N          Specifying 127.0.0.1 or "localhost" to use port forwarding through anF        encrypted Stunnel port does NOT work with FTP. To secure an FTP:        control channel connection use the following steps.   .  .  .  "   
 David Webb Security Team Leader CCSS Middlesex University       
 >Dan Moore >  > / >"BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> wrote in message  8 >news:8_2dnZW2Funf4RfcRVn-1w@metrocastcablevision.com...D >> greetings - Healthcare Environment, regularly 'share' files with 
 >> Government  >> and PrivateJ >> (Commercial) healthcare organizations. Am anticipating a requirement to >> 'SECURE' I >> data transmissions and would like to know if OpenVMS tools capable of  	 >> Secure  >> transmissions are available. ( >> Thanks in advance for any information >> >>   >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:33:21 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk>  Subject: Re: Performance Tuning < Message-ID: <RRmjd.8737$up1.3411@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  L Don't forget T4 - you can learn a great deal from it and the way it presents data.   8 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/OpenVMS/products/t4/index.html   --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk L Systems Archaeologist - Investigation & troubleshooting of older systems and	 networks.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Nov 2004 09:27:53 -0800 1 From: vershinin-vk@tochka.ru (Vladimir Vershinin) 0 Subject: Re: Request for feedback - COPY utility= Message-ID: <7694679b.0411070927.1371e2bd@posting.google.com>   b "Guy Peleg" <guy.peleg@remove_this_hp.com> wrote in message news:<418a0010@usenet01.boi.hp.com>...< > As you know we are getting ready to ship V8.2 and starting/ > to look at enhancements for the next version.  > K > One of the projects high on my to do list is performance improvements for H > the copy utility. Today reads and writes are done synchronously. I wasH > testing a variant of the fastcopy program (with few enhancements I putD > in) and got dramatic performance improvements comparing to currentF > copy.  A very dirty and unofficial test, copying 170MB file from one > directory  > to another on the same disk  > " > On V7.3-2 (using 127 blocks I/O) >   > Charged CPU time was 4 seconds  > Elapsed CPU time was 2 minutes > Total number of I/Os was 5700  >  > Using my prototype:  > ' > Charged CPU time was 00:00.15 seconds ! > Elapsed CPU time was 40 seconds  > Total number of I/Os was 2800  > N > We are doing some tests on EVAs to get more results but there is no surprise: > using fewer and larger asynchronous I/Os is faster...;-) > > > What I'm looking from you is ammunition I can include in the; > internal project proposal that will be presented to mgmt.  > + > Are you currently using COPY intensivley? 6 > Do you think you will benefit from this enhancement? > @ > You may post a reply here or send me mail directly, my mailbox > can tolerate anything. >  > Thank you for your time. >  > Guy Peleg  > OpenVMS Engineering   	 Dear Guy!   @ I am an author of VTfm - Norton Commander-style file manager for? OpenVMS and VT-compartible terminals (or correspondent terminal ? emulators). The new release 2.2-9 of VTfm you can download from C http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~vershinin/vtfm.zip (unzip VTFM.ZIP D and read README.TXT in [.VTFM] subdirectory). One of the features ofC new release is speed up Copy operation (see copy_proc() function in E source code of VTfm) more than 3 times (127 blocks size of I/O buffer C as in your Copy utility). But I have no any original hardware (VAX, D Alpha or IA64). I have only the following configuration: VAX OpenVMSC v7.3 under SIMH v3.2-3 under WindowsXP Pro SP1 on PC with Athlon XP F 2500+, 512MB RAM and IDE 80GB Maxtor hard disk. VTfm copies 273MB fileD from one directory to another on the same disk (under SIMH) with theB following approx elapsed time: 90 seconds. Before copying the fileC VTfm allocates a disk space (approx 20 seconds in this example with B 273MB file). So, approx pure elapsed copy time is 70 seconds. AlsoB some time needed for copy process "animation" (progress bar). WhatE result will be for Copy operation of VTfm on original Alpha (or IA64) 2 hardware compare with result of your Copy utility?  
 Best regards,  Vladimir Vershinin,  vershinin-vk@tochka.ru   ------------------------------  " Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 12:05:12 GMT/ From: Victim_of_American_Stupidity@tujfaw.de.us U Subject: Stupid Americans!  --  Stupid... Stupid... STUPID!!!  __________-+__  oqyzci , Message-ID: <D681DAC0.2AB5A4AD@tujfaw.de.us>  R You blithering idiots! You re-elected that imbecile George Bush as your President.- Hes a complete moron and so are most of you!  - S Dont you care what the rest of the world thinks of you? Dont you care what impact U American foreign policy has on the rest of the planet?  Does Iraq look like a success L to anyone?  Doesnt it bother you that hes alienated every friend you have? What were you thinking???  - Y Prior to this, it was American policy and the American government that was so universally P hated around the world. Now it's going to be 'Americans' we hate.  More sympathyV for Bin Laden... More attacks on American institutions...  More isolation.   How blind> can you dumb rednecks in middle-America be, not to see this?   - O If you get hit again, or your economy goes into a deep depression, the American 1 people will be getting exactly what they deserve!  - 
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