1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 08 Nov 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 621       Contents:4 %CXX-E-INCOMPLETETYP, incomplete type is not allowed4 Re: An interesting link about CPU families over time( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing6 Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ?: Re: Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ?: Re: Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ?& Re: Core dump from an image w/ ACCVIO?& Re: Core dump from an image w/ ACCVIO?  LBR$routines (library) questions LIBRARY/COMPRESS suggestion ? Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner ? Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner $ Re: OT: Election technology question0 Re: OT: Even more New Vulnerabilities in Solaris% Re: Sample C program to read Monitor? % Re: Sample C program to read Monitor? % Re: Sample C program to read Monitor? ' Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware  VMS availability on IA64 Re: VMS availability on IA64 Re: VMS FAQ website suggestions   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2004 02:36:58 -0800 ' From: wayne-wc_chao@hp.com (Wayne Chao) = Subject: %CXX-E-INCOMPLETETYP, incomplete type is not allowed < Message-ID: <7a8e3fc.0411080236.6877deda@posting.google.com>  B I write a Oracle Pro C++ program on VMS 7.1.x the compiler give me following error # CIMIS2::TESTREPORT$ cxx /include=[] B /DEBUG/NOOPT/DEFINE=(STATISTICS,DEBUG,__USE_STD_IOSTREAM) promld.c  0   return new _RW_STD::ctype<char>(NULL,false,1); .............^4 %CXX-E-INCOMPLETETYP, incomplete type is not allowed3 at line number 97 in module VENDOR. of text library & SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]CXXL$ANSI_DEF.TLB;1  0   return new _RW_STD::ctype<char>(NULL,false,1);' ......................................^   %CXX-E-EXPRPAREN, expected a ")"3 at line number 97 in module VENDOR. of text library & SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]CXXL$ANSI_DEF.TLB;1  F I checked the C file generate by Oracle ProC compiler. It doesn't haveE any template. It seems the compiler use a wrong library(template) for   char. Please help me to solve it     Thanks and regards Wayne    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:50:04 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> = Subject: Re: An interesting link about CPU families over time 2 Message-ID: <glOjd.2516$OV6.1122@news.cpqcorp.net>   David Froble wrote: 
 > similar H > to the hostilities reported between VMS people and Unix people at DEC.  G I don't recall any such hostilities. When I worked in VMS Engineering,  I I'd visit the Tru64 engineers on the adjacent floor and pass along white  F papers and documentation that would help them understand clusters, as E they prepared to start the TruClusters project. And my boss from VMS  G Engineering moved across to that team and wrote the connection manager  - and distributed lock manager for TruClusters.   H We on the VMS side were of course concerned when UNIX VPs were reported H as saying VMS was dead, and that UNIX was the future (but not to worry, E all the features and benefits folks had come to know and love on VMS  I would be in UNIX) and again when the VPs associated with Windows NT sang  & the same song, second verse, about NT.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 06:10:26 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing ( Message-ID: <opsg5gbowuzgicya@hyrrokkin>  L On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 19:06:02 +0000, Garry <asdfasdfasdfa@asdfasdfasdf.com>   wrote:   > Tom Linden wrote: / >> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 22:37:36 +0000, Garry    + >> <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> wrote:  >>3 >>> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  >>> 8 >>>> In article <clh28b$f1n$1@news.netkonect.net>, Garry. >>>> <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> writes: >>>>J >>>>>     I'm considering using OpenVMS for a web server, it'll be for a  I >>>>> small  commercial company, so I'm not sure if I can get away with    >>>>> the  Hobbyist licence. >>>># >>>>   You can't and you shouldn't.  >>>> >>> I >>> I've been conversing with a chap from HP, he has been quite helpful   - >>> with  regard to getting a cheap solution.  >>> D >>>>> Right now I don't want to sign my soul over to HP just for a  E >>>>> pricing  quote, so can someone give me a ball-park figure for   L >>>>> OpenVMS on a  single processor 1U rackmount? Something like a DS10L,  K >>>>> or if I can get  one cheap, a supported Itanium machine. I figure I   K >>>>> can get the machine  off eBay, so it's just the OS I need the quote   
 >>>>> for. >>>>K >>>>   Consider that something like a VAXstation 4000 might be more than    K >>>> fast enough for your needs.  The excellent OSU server by Dave Jones    L >>>> runs fine on VAX.  Or do you need new hardware so you have support?    H >>>> Consider getting a dozen VAXstations, which you should be able to  K >>>> find  for next to nothing; if one goes, just replace the whole box.    J >>>> (I'm  assuming you would be running the web server in a cluster, so  9 >>>> the  customers wouldn't notice if a node goes down.)  >>>> >>> I >>> The machine will go in a rented rackspace company, so has to be 1U,   K >>> and  has to be reliable. VAX does not interest me, in fact I was kind   K >>> of  hoping to go right onto IA64 and skip Alpha. I would not be using   ? >>> a  cluster, I'm only paying for a single unit of rackspace. J >>   Have you considered an (Intel | AMD)-based blade running CHARON-VAX   >> underK >> Windows or SIMH VAX VMS under Linux?  I have a version of the latter and I >> on a meager 500MHz P3 it tests out about the same as VAX 4000/90.  You L >> can buy a quad Opteron at 3.6 MHz for under $8,000 and From SRI you can   >> getH >> an emulator for VAX 6630 and I'll bet it will outperform any Itanium. > , > $8000... I was thinking more like $800 :-)  K Well, that would be a PC running SIMH.  For the larger number you get about H 400 VUPS  (Actually, that is misleading since this is MB, you need more)   > J > Emulated does not really appeal, if I had a quad opteron, then I'd use  
 > Solaris. > D In a way all cpu's these days are emulators in the sense that they  	 implement G architecture on some underlying engine, so I guess you don't like the    softwareK emulation.  The one I have running seems rock solid.  I have run hundreds    of tests throught it.  K >>  As for Web servers, I have no experience with OSU, but WASD which I use  >> is top-notch  >> >>> L >>> For the moment, OpenVMS is not going to be cost-effective for me, but   I >>> I'm not ruling it out for future projects, which will have security   ? >>> as  no.1 priority (cost is no.1 priority for this project).  >>> 
 >>> Cheers >>> 	 >>> Garry  >>       --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:59:39 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing + Message-ID: <2v9qgdF2fjjn3U1@uni-berlin.de>    Alex Daniels wrote:  >...G > If you really think a VAX 6630 emulated or otherwise, will outperform > > any Itanium that supports VMS, please provide some benchmark
 > collateral.   D I did not do any real benchmarks, but at the Itanium Developer ForumF there was one time I started to boot the Itanium box (by selecting theH menu option at the IPF level) at approximately the same time I typed theG B on CHARON-VAX. I was rather surprised to see that CHARON-VAX finished G the boot faster than the Itanium box! Mind you there were more products F installed on the Itanium that my laptop, but I was still surprised. :)   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:31:38 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing ( Message-ID: <opsg5se0apzgicya@hyrrokkin>  1 On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:59:39 -0500, Peter Weaver   . <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > Alex Daniels wrote:  >> ...H >> If you really think a VAX 6630 emulated or otherwise, will outperform? >> any Itanium that supports VMS, please provide some benchmark  >> collateral. > F > I did not do any real benchmarks, but at the Itanium Developer ForumH > there was one time I started to boot the Itanium box (by selecting theJ > menu option at the IPF level) at approximately the same time I typed theI > B on CHARON-VAX. I was rather surprised to see that CHARON-VAX finished I > the boot faster than the Itanium box! Mind you there were more products H > installed on the Itanium that my laptop, but I was still surprised. :) > 0 Just curious, did you get a VUPs figure on that?       --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 08:57:02 -0500" From: "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org>? Subject: Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ? = Message-ID: <huCdnYzKCLfJ5xLcRVn-uA@metrocastcablevision.com>   G greetings  i have routines in place that monitor several processes, and  which E           recognize error or attention-required status; if 'YES', the  routinesJ           automatically send VAXMail and E-Mail (SMTP) to a list of users.G           recent episode - error condition, but no one happened to read J          VAX- or E-Mail for a while.  better solution would be to have theJ          monitoring  routines be able to send a 'PAGE' to several users...:          has anyone had any experience doing such a thing?          thanks in advance.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:00:27 GMT 5 From: brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org (Bradford J. Hamilton) C Subject: Re: Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ? , Message-ID: <vKMjd.13628$5K2.8677@attbi_s03>  b In article <huCdnYzKCLfJ5xLcRVn-uA@metrocastcablevision.com>, "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> writes:H !greetings  i have routines in place that monitor several processes, and !whichF !          recognize error or attention-required status; if 'YES', the	 !routines K !          automatically send VAXMail and E-Mail (SMTP) to a list of users. H !          recent episode - error condition, but no one happened to readK !         VAX- or E-Mail for a while.  better solution would be to have the K !         monitoring  routines be able to send a 'PAGE' to several users... ; !         has anyone had any experience doing such a thing?  !         thanks in advance.  K It should be possible (depending on your paging vendor) to send e-mail to a O pager; contact your paging vendor for details.  I am currently doing just that, J with a little freeware (WATCHDOG) and several different distribution listsN (*.DIS files).  You can actually define a logical (ONCALL) to point to severalL different distribution lists, depending on time of day, or change of on-callN personnel, and to run a batch job which changes the ONCALL logical definition,L depending on time of day, day of week, etc.  Pages and e-mail then go out to the "proper" on-call personnel.   J __________________________________________________________________________A Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" K bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  0                                          with @"   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:00:06 -0500" From: "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org>C Subject: Re: Configure ES45 VMS7.3.1 to dial / send page on error ? = Message-ID: <4LydnWDqGsuhOBLcRVn-gg@metrocastcablevision.com>   J greetings - very  many thanks! i had not considered that as an option, but itJ       is very close to Exactly what i was hoping to accomplish.  i already haveJ       the distribution lists, etc. but could not make the 'leap' to pager.       thanks again  B "Bradford J. Hamilton" <brad@rabbit.dnsalias.org> wrote in message& news:vKMjd.13628$5K2.8677@attbi_s03...G > In article <huCdnYzKCLfJ5xLcRVn-uA@metrocastcablevision.com>, "BillC"  <bclark_at_lrgh.org> writes:J > !greetings  i have routines in place that monitor several processes, and > !whichH > !          recognize error or attention-required status; if 'YES', the > !routines F > !          automatically send VAXMail and E-Mail (SMTP) to a list of users.J > !          recent episode - error condition, but no one happened to readI > !         VAX- or E-Mail for a while.  better solution would be to have  the D > !         monitoring  routines be able to send a 'PAGE' to several users...= > !         has anyone had any experience doing such a thing?  > !         thanks in advance. > K > It should be possible (depending on your paging vendor) to send e-mail to  a K > pager; contact your paging vendor for details.  I am currently doing just  that, L > with a little freeware (WATCHDOG) and several different distribution listsH > (*.DIS files).  You can actually define a logical (ONCALL) to point to several F > different distribution lists, depending on time of day, or change of on-call D > personnel, and to run a batch job which changes the ONCALL logical definition, K > depending on time of day, day of week, etc.  Pages and e-mail then go out  to! > the "proper" on-call personnel.  > L > __________________________________________________________________________C > Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" L > bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'2 >                                          with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:11:35 +0000 - From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> / Subject: Re: Core dump from an image w/ ACCVIO? + Message-ID: <2v8o5fF2hvghnU1@uni-berlin.de>    Z wrote: > Roy Goodman wrote: > I >>> I'd like to get a core dump, as I would on Unix, a core that I could  F >>> load into the debugger to aid in the analysis of what went wrong.  > & >> SET PROCESS /DUMP is what you want. > ( > Now why didn't I ever see that before?  < Simple, Grasshopper.  It is because you haven't yet achieved the VMS way of thinking yet.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2004 08:15:18 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) / Subject: Re: Core dump from an image w/ ACCVIO? 3 Message-ID: <znq9RA5gMptV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   F In article <10ot4t8bf7stgba@corp.supernews.com>, Z <z@no.spam> writes:* > When an image ACCVIOs I get a traceback. > 4 > Sometimes that's enough, but most times, it's not. > G > I'd like to get a core dump, as I would on Unix, a core that I could  C > load into the debugger to aid in the analysis of what went wrong.  >  > Is that possible on VMS?      set process/dump   	    As in:       help set process/dump   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:22:17 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ) Subject: LBR$routines (library) questions , Message-ID: <418F48B4.DEF86C18@teksavvy.com>  / I have a few questions about the LBR$ routines.   L If one attemps to open a library with the LBR$C_UPDATE flag, and the libraryL is already opened by someone else, the LBR$OPEN takes just over 2 minutes to, return the "file is locked" error message.    7 Is there a magic trick to get it to return immediatly ? K Or must I use $OPEN to first test if the file can be opened read/write (and 3 then $CLOSE it and use LBR$OPEN to get it opened) ?    -----   M The documentation specifies that history records are written and retreived as I "string descriptors". However, the stuff that is returned is "jibberish", M indicating this is probably some form of formatted binary record. Does anyone H know where the real documenttation on history records might be located ?  M if I were to disassemble the LIBRARY.EXE image (vax) would it yield any clues L on the history record format, or would the disassembler just yield jibberishO where it is too har to locate the code that builds/parses the history records ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:14:15 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: LIBRARY/COMPRESS suggestion, Message-ID: <418F70F8.BB0079E7@teksavvy.com>  K While developping an application that makes use of LBR$ routines, I seem to G have corrupted some library files. The LBR routines tell me the file is L already is use, but LIBRARY/LIST tells me the file was improperly closed and5 needs to be rebuilt with either /COMPRESS or /CREATE.   L The problem is that LIB/COMPRESS does not preserve history records and other5 date/attributes since it creates a new library file.    N BTW, when DECC$RTLDEF.TLB is so corrupted, the DECC compiler just complains it* cannot find the first include header file.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 08:44:50 -0500" From: "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org>H Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner= Message-ID: <YM6dneSnQeLl6hLcRVn-3A@metrocastcablevision.com>   G greetings- thanks to all who replied. i have found some good ideas from )             your posts - Much Appreciated     - "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> wrote in message 7 news:8_2dnZW2Funf4RfcRVn-1w@metrocastcablevision.com... B > greetings - Healthcare Environment, regularly 'share' files with
 Government
 > and Private I > (Commercial) healthcare organizations. Am anticipating a requirement to 
 > 'SECURE'G > data transmissions and would like to know if OpenVMS tools capable of  Secure > transmissions are available.' > Thanks in advance for any information  >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2004 08:05:01 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) H Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2 , 'Secure' FTP Transmissions to Non-VMS Partner3 Message-ID: <SR8O45P3rbwV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   b In article <8_2dnZW2Funf4RfcRVn-1w@metrocastcablevision.com>, "BillC" <bclark_at_lrgh.org> writes:M > greetings - Healthcare Environment, regularly 'share' files with Government 
 > and Private I > (Commercial) healthcare organizations. Am anticipating a requirement to 
 > 'SECURE'N > data transmissions and would like to know if OpenVMS tools capable of Secure > transmissions are available.  H    Absolutely.  Generally they are looking for something like sftp, scp,F    or ssh tunneling.  All of which we use daily on our VMS systems via    Process' Multinet product.   G    There are other options, such as DECencrypt and third party products 0    based on DES and other encryption algorithms.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:39:18 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) - Subject: Re: OT: Election technology question 1 Message-ID: <959B601CCwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>   7 kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote in ) <frT8278fITEm@eisner.encompasserve.org>:    2 >In article <9595AB37Awspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>,5 >wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) writes:   >> Hi Folks, >>  H >> Since I've been working for The AP for the last 4 years, I'll try to # >> address some of these questions.  >>  C >> Things have changed since 2000 - VNS, the Voter News Service, no G >> longer exists.  They did exit polls - I think we're doing them now.  D >> An exit poller just asks people leaving the voting booth how theyI >> voted - if they want to say.  This info is used to predict the winners H >> - sometimes inaccurately, as we saw last election.  But these numbersI >> can be helpful because they can be collected before ballot counting is 
 >> complete.   >>  F >> Ballots are counted in the precinct where they are cast, and phonedF >> into a  county office.  The AP has staff at each county office, andD >> they phone the counts in our Elections contact center in New YorkD >> City, where data entry occurs.  Additionally, some states provideH >> automated feeds, which we take in leiu of phone-ins.  Automated feeds9 >> are provided over private circuits - not the Internet.  >>  H >> Our primary elections back end is all VMS - it receives and tabulatesI >> the counts. We have redundant systems ready to go in a western state.  I >> But this addresses only the collection and tabulation of the election.  >>  I >> The other part of all this is distribution of the results.  Most major G >> news organizations buy our elections feed, which contains the latest C >> results as they happen.  The feeds are delivered via a number of 1 >> technologies, including Solaris, Windows, etc.  > G >Is this information available on the web, or to the general public? Or * >is it only available to major newspapers?  K You'd have to be an AP customer to receive a feed.  Online, newspaper, and  K tv organizations form the bulk of our customers, although I'm sure we have   some less-typical customers.     > F >Once again the Chicago Tribune thinks that my vote doesn't count, andE >thus wasn't worth publishing in their paper. As my .sig said for the H >past couple weeks, the only wasted vote is voting for the lesser of twoH >evils. There was absolutely NO mention of any third party candidates inD >their coverage of the presidental election, at the local, state, orG >national level. Nor was it on their web site, at least as of yesterday F >evening. It's as if my vote never happened. It's bad enough that theyG >ignore my views and my candidates before the election. If they can get - >on the ballot, they deserve to be reported.   > > >     Bob Kaplow     NAR # 18L     TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"/ >          >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<  >Kaplow Klips & Baffle:     6 >http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf A >    www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org     >    www.nar.org   > 6 >     26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy9 >     Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/  > E >        "For as adamant as my country has been about civil liberties B >        duirng peacetime, it has a long history ... of failing toI >        preserve civil liberties when it perceived its national security E >        threatened." -- former Supreme Court Justice William Brennan  >      --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:14:48 +0000 - From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> 9 Subject: Re: OT: Even more New Vulnerabilities in Solaris + Message-ID: <2v96diF2j35qvU1@uni-berlin.de>    Roy Omond wrote:  ; > The company I'm currently with also does Solaris support. 7 > I'm aghast at the number of "Security Alerts from Sun = > Microsystems detailing a new vulnerability in Solaris" that ; > seem to be being issued on what appears to me pretty much 9 > a weekly basis.  Just for information (I know that it's 9 > really off topic for comp.os.vms, but thought that some > > might like to see the "other side" - down, Bob, down ... :-)= > this is today's issue - I could post more of these but this  > should be enough:   . Apologies for seeming to reply to my own post:  = Here's this week's list ... *sigh*.  Gives you that nice warm  fuzzy feeling, n'est-ce pas ?     = The gzip(1) Command May Change the Permissions of Hard Linked  Files on Solaris 8 SystemsA Document ID: 57600   Nov 05, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   ? Sparse Files Written to Shared Sun StorEdge QFS or Sun StorEdge 6 SAM-QFS File Systems May Contain Deleted File ContentsA Document ID: 57595   Nov 04, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   D Buffer Overflow Vulnerabilities in Sun Java System Web Proxy Server A Document ID: 57606   Nov 03, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   ? Security Vulnerability With The HTTP TRACE Functionality in Sun  Java System Application ServerA Document ID: 57670   Nov 03, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   = Security Vulnerabilities May Allow a Denial of Service in Sun / Java System Web and Application Server Products A Document ID: 57669   Nov 02, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   A Solaris/SEAM Kerberos 5 Vulnerability Due To Buffer Overflows In   krb5_aname_to_localname() A Document ID: 57580   Nov 01, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   > Solaris 9 Patches 112908-12 and 115168-03 WITHDRAWN, May Cause8 Passwords to be Logged as Clear Text on Kerberos ClientsA Document ID: 57587   Nov 01, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications   @ Security Vulnerabilities in the Kerberos Key Distribution Center& (KDC) Daemon and Kerberos V5 LibrariesA Document ID: 57631   Nov 01, 2004 PUBLIC  Sun Alert Notifications    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:21:36 +0200 * From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il>. Subject: Re: Sample C program to read Monitor?+ Message-ID: <2v8sc0F2hrqaiU1@uni-berlin.de>    Tim Smith wrote:F > I dont suppose anyone has a sample C program which reads the MonitorG                                                                 ^^^^^^^ F > file - doesnt need to be complete but perhaps something that gets me    ^^^^  Whats a Monitor file?6 > started e.g. reads the fileheader, systemheader etc. > + > Its a struggle to read even a date in :-)  >  > Tim      --  J New to Usenet? read http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~rechtman/post_hlp.htmE --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. D Mike Rechtman                                 *rechtman@tzora.co.il*C    "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%" E ---------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Nov 2004 07:22:10 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) . Subject: Re: Sample C program to read Monitor?3 Message-ID: <BIE2F0S67kFN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   X In article <2v8sc0F2hrqaiU1@uni-berlin.de>, Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes: > Tim Smith wrote:G >> I dont suppose anyone has a sample C program which reads the Monitor I >                                                                 ^^^^^^^ G >> file - doesnt need to be complete but perhaps something that gets me   >    ^^^^  Whats a Monitor file?   HELP MONITOR MONITOR /OUTPUT   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:44:01 GMT F From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman). Subject: Re: Sample C program to read Monitor?2 Message-ID: <lnNjd.2507$DT6.2195@news.cpqcorp.net>  B If you mean the MONITOR binary data file, the format is documented in the manual.  C I put a program that reads such a file and converts the data output C onto one of the DECUS SIG collections years ago, which should still F be "out there".  I think a newer example may be on one of the FreewareB collections.  You could try a web search for "MONITOR_TO_CSV.MAR".     --  (  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a 5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:31:46 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>0 Subject: Re: Service Contract for Alpha Hardware+ Message-ID: <2v9sckF2homtbU1@uni-berlin.de>    Keith Cayemberg wrote: >...H > IBM - UniData - an extended relational database designed for embedding > in vertical applications2 > http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/unidata/ >...  ? Is that Pick? It has been a long time since I did anything with E Pick/Ultimate/Universe/Unidata, but a quick look at that site looks a E lot like what I recall from the days when we had an Ultimate board in  the VAX 11/750.    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:45:55 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: VMS availability on IA64 , Message-ID: <418F2417.C707723C@teksavvy.com>  N Intel is unveiling a IA64 with 9meg of cache mmory. As part of this news buzz, there is an article at: f > http://news.com.com/New+clusters+emerge+at+supercomputing+show/2100-1010_3-5442280.html?tag=nefd.top  G which discusses Dell and HP clusters, and HP's various initiatives with S regards to clustering. Of course, VMS inst't mentioned in those cluster initatives.   K However, later on, the article talks about upcoming HP IA64 servers, and in , that paragraph, there is a telling sentence:   ##M HP also is selling the dual-processor rx2620, a system that's more expandable N than the rx1620 and has a thickness of 3.5 inches rather than 1.75 inches. AllE three servers are expected to go on sale in December and can run four 6 operating systems: Linux, Windows, HP-UX and OpenVMS.  ##  J This is perhaps the first time I see a "present tense" statement about VMS% being available on those IA64 things.   N So it looks like december might be the launch date for VMS on that IA64 thing.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:58:55 GMT 4 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>% Subject: Re: VMS availability on IA64 2 Message-ID: <j4Kjd.2496$BI6.1692@news.cpqcorp.net>  	 Well Duh.   : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message& news:418F2417.C707723C@teksavvy.com...J > Intel is unveiling a IA64 with 9meg of cache mmory. As part of this news buzz,  > there is an article at:  > > d http://news.com.com/New+clusters+emerge+at+supercomputing+show/2100-1010_3-5442280.html?tag=nefd.top > I > which discusses Dell and HP clusters, and HP's various initiatives with I > regards to clustering. Of course, VMS inst't mentioned in those cluster  initatives.  > J > However, later on, the article talks about upcoming HP IA64 servers, and in. > that paragraph, there is a telling sentence: >  > ##D > HP also is selling the dual-processor rx2620, a system that's more
 expandableL > than the rx1620 and has a thickness of 3.5 inches rather than 1.75 inches. All G > three servers are expected to go on sale in December and can run four 7 > operating systems: Linux, Windows, HP-UX and OpenVMS.  > ## > L > This is perhaps the first time I see a "present tense" statement about VMS' > being available on those IA64 things.  > I > So it looks like december might be the launch date for VMS on that IA64  thing.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:38:01 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> ( Subject: Re: VMS FAQ website suggestions' Message-ID: <418FA0E9.2A3DF334@aaa.com>    JF Mezei wrote:  > 3 > the VMS FAQ web page offers a variety of formats.  > N > For me, being on VAX, bookreader is far more useful and far faster to accessU > than other formats, and it would be nice if that file format could be made to work.   ? How many *paying* customers are currently using a *VAX* to read A online OpenVMS docs ? My guess is that 99% are using PDF on a PC.   B Just toss the bookreader format out and use the time and money for	 something E that current and future customers would like to pay for. Not on stuff  that& customers payed for 10-20 years ago...  
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