1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 13 Nov 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 630       Contents:3 Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on 3 Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on 3 Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on % Re: Dynamic FTP site and file locking % Re: Dynamic FTP site and file locking 4 Get RMS_DEFAULT /EXTEND_QUANTITY value in a program?H HP DSPP program, OpenVMS SDK, Q3CY2004 OpenVMS Software Products Library9 Re: Microsoft to skip Itanium with supercomputing Windows 9 Re: Microsoft to skip Itanium with supercomputing Windows  More systems in stock DS10L  Re: Need DLT label stock Re: Need DLT label stock Re: Problem to Partition a disk 4 Re: Real documentation on SYSGEN memory parameters ? Re: VMS Advertisement  Re: VMS Advertisement  Re: VMS Advertisement  Re: VMS Advertisement   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:50:56 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@PROBE.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis)< Subject: Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on. Message-ID: <cn30mg$10p$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   matsmith@hrblock.com (Matt Smith) writes in article <65aa04b9.0411120929.5690e464@posting.google.com> dated 12 Nov 2004 09:29:16 -0800: E >I need to be able to determine whether file high-water marking is on G >for a given device. I need to do this from within a command procedure, G >so SHOW DEVICE/FULL is not practical. I've looked at f$getdvi, but I'm @ >not really seeing any argument that will get me that info. I'veD >googled the heck out of this, but no dice. Any help is appreciated.  J Here's a code snippet that might help.  It uses the dreaded SHOW DEV/FULL.  G $ pipe show dev/full 'diskname' | search sys$input high,water/match=and & $ if ('$status' .and. 7) .eq. 1 then -? $   WRITE SYS$OUTPUT " ''diskname' has high-water marking set "   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2004 15:09:04 -0500/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) < Subject: Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on- Message-ID: <ubdmTnYp00Ym@cuebid.zko.dec.com>   / Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: 2 >brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes: >>  K >> In V8.2, the item code dvi$_nohighwater code should help out.  Note that C >> it is NOhighwater, such that a TRUE (from f$getdvi) or a 1 (from J >> sys$getdvi/lib$getdvi) will mean that highwater marking is not enabled.P >> Yeah, I admit that may be a bit confusing at first -- the relevant bit in theD >> VCB in the status byte vcb$b_status2 is called vcb$v_nohighwater. > B > And that bit has been there since highwater marking has existed.C > For earlier versions of VMS I use SCH$IOLOCKR before checking it.   I  . . . as does the code in [sys]sysgetdvi.mar -- virtually all of $getdvi : runs with the I/O database mutex acquired for read access.   --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.com    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2004 17:10:57 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) < Subject: Re: Determine whether file high-water marking is on3 Message-ID: <ikhA4lsYbVKp@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <ubdmTnYp00Ym@cuebid.zko.dec.com>, brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes: 1 > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: 3 >>brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  >>> L >>> In V8.2, the item code dvi$_nohighwater code should help out.  Note thatD >>> it is NOhighwater, such that a TRUE (from f$getdvi) or a 1 (fromK >>> sys$getdvi/lib$getdvi) will mean that highwater marking is not enabled. Q >>> Yeah, I admit that may be a bit confusing at first -- the relevant bit in the E >>> VCB in the status byte vcb$b_status2 is called vcb$v_nohighwater.  >>  C >> And that bit has been there since highwater marking has existed. D >> For earlier versions of VMS I use SCH$IOLOCKR before checking it. > K >  . . . as does the code in [sys]sysgetdvi.mar -- virtually all of $getdvi < > runs with the I/O database mutex acquired for read access.  L Thanks.  I am glad to hear the rules have not changed since I wrote my code.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:46:36 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com . Subject: Re: Dynamic FTP site and file locking- Message-ID: <87ekiy3idv.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan) writes:   ...   ; > That will work, but is there a better solution available?   > Define FTP to be a procedure that runs the real FTP, then does a rename when it exits.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:01:36 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> . Subject: Re: Dynamic FTP site and file locking, Message-ID: <4195871F.EC119D7A@teksavvy.com>  K Not sure if I posted this yet or not. I may have posted it while asleep :-)   L If this is an important enough application, you might consider modifying theN web server to open the files with exclusive access and if that fails, then add; ";-1" to the file specification (opening previous version).   L This way, when the web server tries to access a file in the process of beingH created, it would detect it is impossible to open and then revert to the previous version.   3 That would be the cleanest and safest way to do it.    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:40:47 -0600 (CST)  From: sms@antinode.org= Subject: Get RMS_DEFAULT /EXTEND_QUANTITY value in a program? ) Message-ID: <04111222404717@antinode.org>   F    Let's pretend that I want a C program to use a large file extensionH size, but I'd like the user to be able to override the program's defaultF value by using the SET RMS_DEFAULT /EXTEND_QUANTITY value (rather than7 adding yet another command-line option to the program).   H    As I read the manual, if I specify a zero fab$w_deq, then the /EXTENDC value will override it, but if I specify a non-zero fab$w_deq, then 8 that's the value used, irregardful of the /EXTEND value.  E    If I could sense the /EXTEND value from inside the program, then I < could set fab$w_deq to a value limited by the /EXTEND value.  A    So, is there a nice way to get the /EXTEND value from inside a C program?  After a bit of looking, I haven't seen one yet.  Having a ? non-zero /EXTEND value set does not appear to affect the file's F fab$w_deq (or xab$w_dxq), so I don't think that I can see it that way.  '    Other clever ideas are also welcome.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:58:18 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGQ Subject: HP DSPP program, OpenVMS SDK, Q3CY2004 OpenVMS Software Products Library 0 Message-ID: <00A3AC58.F2BBA8BD@SendSpamHere.ORG>  & To anyone here who is a DSPP member...  G Do you have as many issue with this DSPP program as I.  The web site is G virtually useless to navigate.  I haven't received the OpenVMS Software H Products Libraries when I should.  A complete lack of communication from" DSPP -- unless they want money. ;o  G Does anyone here have a Q3CY2004 OpenVMS Software Products Library that  they're will to part with?   I miss the ASAP program. --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2004 17:48:20 -08002 From: ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com (M. Ranjit Mathews)B Subject: Re: Microsoft to skip Itanium with supercomputing Windows= Message-ID: <1d4c67e3.0411121748.7fc68a50@posting.google.com>   5 Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote ...  > Warren Spencer wrote: B > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/11/09/HNskipitanium_1.html > J > And folks who feel that because Microsoft is choosing to support 64-bit E > extensions to x86 first and Itanium later for this Compute Cluster  K > Edition release, and interpret this as doom for Itanium, should remember  K > that Microsoft first supported Itanium on Windows Server and SQL Server,  K > and that didn't doom 64-bit extensions to x86, for which there was still  E > not an offical 64-bit Windows (XP, much less Server) or SQL Server   > release, last I heard.  @ How about folks who feel that Microsoft backs the most promisingE horse? Wouldn't they feel that Microsoft earlier supported IA64 first < when they saw the most promise in that but now, Microsoft is> supporting x64 first because they now perceive x64 as the most@ promising architecture for realizing market penetration of their Compute Cluster technology?    ------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2004 18:40:13 -0800- From: dean.woodward@gmail.com (Dean Woodward) B Subject: Re: Microsoft to skip Itanium with supercomputing Windows= Message-ID: <3f119ada.0411121840.7e5dda4c@posting.google.com>   j Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<u47kd.2612$bk.2328@news.cpqcorp.net>...  K > that Microsoft first supported Itanium on Windows Server and SQL Server,  K > and that didn't doom 64-bit extensions to x86, for which there was still  E > not an offical 64-bit Windows (XP, much less Server) or SQL Server   > release, last I heard.  D 64-bit WinXP is currently in beta; MSDN subscribers can download it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:32:38 -0500 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> $ Subject: More systems in stock DS10L0 Message-ID: <10pahlc53eppe87@news.supernews.com>   In stock and ready for  a home:   1 Alphaserver DS10L 466Mhz Over 250 in UK inventory 	 No memory  No HD 4 includes dual 10/100 ethernet on board dual ide ctrs  . $250 each !!!!!! working with 90 day warranty.K Shipping within the UK and EU - 30 UKPDS hand delivered in UK home counties  EU delivery: 40Euros     --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:45:33 -0500 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> ! Subject: Re: Need DLT label stock 0 Message-ID: <10paidhlkol7pd5@news.supernews.com>  $ we use a brother ptouch pc for these   www.brotherusa.com   dt   --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     A "Bob Kaplow" <kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD> wrote in message - news:qgcLW25a$g32@eisner.encompasserve.org... ? > Where does one order the little paper DLT label inserts from?  > H > Once upon a time, we had some custom printed. But they were ordered byI > someone no longer here, from a long gone vendor. If I can get something I > custom or semi-custom that would be great, but I'd settle for something  thatG > has spaces that I could write in the system name and date. Perhaps in C > different colors, or with some way to differentiate between daily K > incremental and weekly image. Or maybe blank stock that I can run through I > either a laser or inkjet printer. As long as it's pre-perforated in the  > right size, about 20x56mm. > 2 > Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"& > >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< > Kaplow Klips & Baffle:4 http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf? >     www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/    www.nira-rocketry.org  www.nar.org  > 2 > 26-October, 2001: A day that will live in infamy5 > Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/  > I >         Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the boisterous sea of & >         liberty. -- Thomas Jefferson   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:55:45 +1100 3 From: Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> ! Subject: Re: Need DLT label stock + Message-ID: <2vl4g5F2mb15tU1@uni-berlin.de>    Bob Kaplow wrote:   @ > Where does one order the little paper DLT label inserts from?   ? Do a google on this group (TL891) - I wrote a utility in DCL to 6 do just that and posted it (it does the barcodes too).   I've done similar for LTO.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:43:15 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com ( Subject: Re: Problem to Partition a disk- Message-ID: <87is8a3ijg.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> writes:  C > I would like to patition a 146GB disk with the LDdriver into four E > partitions. The first problem (under OpenVMS 7.3-1 AXP) was, that I ; > could not initialyze this disk with clustersize = 1. With D > clustersize = 4 there was no problem. I did also set the /INDEX toA > BEGIN. After mounting I created a directory ([LD]) and tried to > > create four contiguous files of the size = 71000000 with theC > LDdriver. But I could create only three of them. The last one did D > not have enaugh free contiguous disk space. The DEFRAG shows, that< > the disk was fragmented into a few extends (four). I don't= > understand why. What's wrong with my initalyzation und file  > creation?   B You want to use /INDEX=BEGIN to put the index file at the front ofF the disk, and to put your containers into [0,0] so no extra direcoriesA are needed. You HAVE to allow for a few blocks for the index file  etc on the volume.  A The other way is to use Glen's drivers and stuff and split up the ( drive by LBN. Can the LD driver do that?   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Nov 2004 12:03:43 -08007 From: jones.computer.srv@worldnet.att.net (Daryl Jones) = Subject: Re: Real documentation on SYSGEN memory parameters ? = Message-ID: <8a646952.0411121203.1eb07cb2@posting.google.com>   a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<419342E3.A1AEEB83@teksavvy.com>... N > Where could I find some real documentation on all the various memory relatedK > sysgen paramenters (for vax at least) and how to calculate them and their  > inter-relationship ? > K > For instance, if I add to parameter X, does that also require I add to Y  $ > because X consumes memory from Y ? > N > The guide to performance really doesn't cover anything like SPTREQ, NPAGDYN,  > IRPCNT, SYSMWCNT etc etc etc.  > N > So it is pretty hard to start to tweak a system without really understanding, > the interrelationship of those parameters.   Dear JF Mezei:  D A source for the information you seek can be found in the "InternalsF and Data Structures" books which startd with VAX/VMS Version 3.3, 4.4,F 5.2, and again with AXP version 1.5. There are other subchapters books. dealing with memory management and scheduling.   I hope this helps.   Regards, Daryl Jones    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:01:35 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: VMS Advertisement, Message-ID: <41950848.24BE2BF6@teksavvy.com>   "Michael D. Ober" wrote: > I > On the back cover of last weeks "Information Week" there is a full page J > (cover) ad for HP Infinity Servers that actually lists OpenVMS as an OS.  N Listing VMS as an "also runs" is a step forward. However, what is needed is anM Actual VMS ad that lists IA64 as an "also runs" and focuses on the virtues of  the OS, not the hardware.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:53:48 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: Re: VMS Advertisement, Message-ID: <KuSdncPEH_SYogjcRVn-sQ@igs.net>   Keith Parris wrote:  > Michael D. Ober wrote:E >> On the back cover of last weeks "Information Week" there is a full F >> page (cover) ad for HP Infinity Servers that actually lists OpenVMS >> as an OS. > F > This is one of the nice side-effects of the OpenVMS port to Itanium. > H > And it's not only external advertisements, it's also internal HP salesH > training, product information dissemination, and other internal venues) > where OpenVMS now always gets exposure.     K The only exposure VMS gets from HP is is being left out in the cold to die.   A Show me a recent ad - no, I'll be generous and say show me ANY ad ? exclusively about VMS since HP closed the merger in April 2002.    I'm waiting.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 13:06:43 +1100 3 From: Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU>  Subject: Re: VMS Advertisement+ Message-ID: <2vl54mF2mf5ekU1@uni-berlin.de>    Tom Linden wrote: 6 > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:32:03 -0700, Michael D. Ober   > <mdo.@.wakeassoc..com>  wrote: > J >> On the back cover of last weeks "Information Week" there is a full pageK >> (cover) ad for HP Infinity Servers that actually lists OpenVMS as an OS.  >> >> Mike. >>9 > They will do anything to try to sell Itanium servers:-)   ? We already have our first Itanic box and OpenVMS is pretty cool A on it. We needed to install HP-UX as SAS does not support OpenVMS  on that platform :-(  E We are putting in orders for another 3 systems which will be OpenVMS. D We need this in this years budget and have been told we can exchangeB HP-UX licenses for OpenVMS when available as the licensing will be> much like HP-UX. The first system, we ordered Linux ready then bought the HP-UX license.      >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:51:48 GMT % From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>  Subject: Re: VMS Advertisement> Message-ID: <oxfld.19061$Rf1.17999@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>  / "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message  & news:KuSdncPEH_SYogjcRVn-sQ@igs.net... > Keith Parris wrote:  >> Michael D. Ober wrote: F >>> On the back cover of last weeks "Information Week" there is a fullG >>> page (cover) ad for HP Infinity Servers that actually lists OpenVMS 
 >>> as an OS.  >>G >> This is one of the nice side-effects of the OpenVMS port to Itanium.  >>I >> And it's not only external advertisements, it's also internal HP sales I >> training, product information dissemination, and other internal venues * >> where OpenVMS now always gets exposure. >  > I > The only exposure VMS gets from HP is is being left out in the cold to   > die. > C > Show me a recent ad - no, I'll be generous and say show me ANY ad A > exclusively about VMS since HP closed the merger in April 2002.  >  > I'm waiting.  : Why would HP run an ad that was exclusively about OpenVMS?  I Has it occurred to you that you know about as much about advertising and  I marketing as HP's marketing people know about memory management and ASTs?    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.630 ************************