1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 03 Oct 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 548       Contents:) Re: AlphaServer DS10L - IDE disk question  Re: As seen in WSJ Re: Jonas and Jboss on OpenVMS. Make a CD-ROM image file faster than DCL COPY.* Re: Need LK461 keyboard and 3 button mouse* Re: Need LK461 keyboard and 3 button mouse# Re: Tiny pickings for Itanium OEM's = Re: Why do I need Read access to a directory, to WRITE to it? = Re: Why do I need Read access to a directory, to WRITE to it?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:05:27 -0400% From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> 2 Subject: Re: AlphaServer DS10L - IDE disk question0 Message-ID: <10lug8vjjk0rq11@news.supernews.com>  1 we have our own brand - it's cheap and it works !    david    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     5 "Mark Smith" <shofu_au@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message 7 news:8bdc0085.0410020007.28f93c9a@posting.google.com... ' > stas <stas@amtel.ru> wrote in message ' news:<citvkv$nk0$1@e22.peterstar.ru>...  > E > > I am install 120GB maxtor, working OK under VMS 7.3-1 with latest  patches. > ? > Any chance of getting the Maxtor model number for this drive?  > 2 > BTW, what brand memory do you use in this DS10L? >  > Thanks >  > Mark   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 18:12:50 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: As seen in WSJ , Message-ID: <415F27E1.CE40283F@teksavvy.com>   John Smith wrote: B > The analog is that while the four remaining Space Shuttles are aM > technological marvel, Rockwell (or whomever they merged with) isn't exactly M > starting up the production line to bang them out like sausages to sell them  > to commercial customers.  N Actually there are 3 left... And like Alpha, the tooling was destroyed so they can't build any more.   L > Meanwhile Intel will be busy competing with Power 5/6 and AMD64 with theirB > own 32-64 hybrid so Intel doesn't get slaughtered in the market.  J Yes. And if the Alpha engineers were right in the June 24 documents, IntelM will have a hard time  improving Ia64 at the same speed as its competitors. I  think it all hinges on that.  M The problem is finding a face saving way out of IA64 for both Intel and IA64.   L Perhaps the other user of IA64: SGI will be key. When they announce they areL moving to Opteron/8086,  that might be the death blow to IA64 and HP's stock may go down as a result.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 21:42:48 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>' Subject: Re: Jonas and Jboss on OpenVMS + Message-ID: <415F6728.252B46CC@comcast.net>    Thierry USO wrote: > [snip]D > We have already upgraded to OpenVMS 7.3-2. The max size of the DCLH > command line is still too small. The classpath is really big. We thinkC > that the OpenVMS Tomcat solves this problem by creating temporary < > logical names and we search to understand how it operates.  @ Well, understand that the new DCL limits are 4K(-1 byte) and 8K,E respectively. If that's still not enough, then some version of Tomcat  has some serious problems.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:36:03 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.org7 Subject: Make a CD-ROM image file faster than DCL COPY. ) Message-ID: <04100220360318@antinode.org>   G    All the low-level I/O exploration I've been doing lately for Zip led H me to see what I could do about the depressingly slow speed of COPY whenC used to make an image file from a CD-ROM.  The result so far is a C H program, QREADCD, which seems to be significantly faster than COPY on myE systems.  (About six times as fast on the AlpSta 200 4/233 with a 40X G CD-ROM drive, about five times on the PWS 500a[u] with a 40X drive, and 3 about four times on a VAXsta 3138 with a 4X drive.)   >    If someone already has a better solution, it could use moreF publicity, as I'm unaware of it.  (I seem to have an old READCD from aH CDRECORD kit, but it seems not to work, while CDRECORD itself does.  OldG e-mail suggests that someone (whose READCD did work) found it no faster 6 than COPY.  I don't know if there's a faster one now.)  F    If anyone has (demonstrated) ways to improve my program, I'm alwaysH open to suggestions.  (Currently, low-level I/O is used only to read the3 CD-ROM.  UNIX I/O is used to write the image file.)   1       http://www.antinode.org/dec/sw/qreadcd.html %       ftp://ftp.antinode.org/qreadcd/   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:10:04 -0500 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>3 Subject: Re: Need LK461 keyboard and 3 button mouse D Message-ID: <craigberry-7ADF8E.20100402102004@news.isp.giganews.com>  < In article <pan.2004.10.03.00.23.38.511937@access4less.net>,.  James Nykiel <jnykiel@access4less.net> wrote:  I > I am not sure if the PCXAS-AB 3 Button Mouse is the best choice for use J > with an AlphaStation 200 running OpenVMS and DECWindows.  I know I couldL > probably use almost any brand PS/2 mouse but would like to stay with a DEC > mouse.  G I've been happily using a Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse with my various  F alphastations, Model M-CAA43, P/N 811439-0000.   I think I paid about A five bucks for it at a local Walgreens, so you might think about  G getting one of these while you hunt for a real DEC mouse, assuming you  H actually prefer an oversized hockey puck to something that fits in your ( hand.  Personally I prefer the Logitech.   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 23:11:36 -0500 (CDT) From: sms@antinode.org3 Subject: Re: Need LK461 keyboard and 3 button mouse ) Message-ID: <04100223113623@antinode.org>   6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler>  0 >  James Nykiel <jnykiel@access4less.net> wrote:L >  > I am not sure if the PCXAS-AB 3 Button Mouse is the best choice for useM >  > with an AlphaStation 200 running OpenVMS and DECWindows.  I know I could O >  > probably use almost any brand PS/2 mouse but would like to stay with a DEC  >  > mouse.  >   J >  I've been happily using a Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse with my various I >  alphastations, Model M-CAA43, P/N 811439-0000.   I think I paid about  D >  five bucks for it at a local Walgreens, so you might think about < >  getting one of these while you hunt for a real DEC mouse,  D    I have a Logitech eek whose bottom label says, "M/N:M-S35", "P/N:F 850632-0000", and "FCC ID:DZL211029".  I also have a Digital eek whoseE bottom label says "PART NO. 30-46117-02", "REV:A02", "M/N:M-S35", and F "FCC ID:DZL211029".  Aside from minor color differences and a Logitech@ name and logo on the top of one of them, they appear to be quiteF similar.  Which do you think is more likely, DEC had an eek factory or DEC bought eeks from Logitech?   >  assuming you K >  actually prefer an oversized hockey puck to something that fits in your  + >  hand.  Personally I prefer the Logitech.   >    I am unaware that there were ever PS2-compatible DECburgers (like the non-PS2 VSXXX-AA).  D    In any case, if that degree of DEC authenticity is critical, it'sC possible that one of the local junk stores here still has a similar A (used) Digital eek.  I'd guess about $10 plus S&H, but I wouldn't E bother for myself.  Let me know if you're that eager, and I can look.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2004 15:03:16 -0500 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) , Subject: Re: Tiny pickings for Itanium OEM's3 Message-ID: <YY59v0LrZ8yu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <415E202F.86D86FBB@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Rob Young wrote:: >>         Sun has done little more than shed market shareE >>         for 2 years or so, went 10 quarters with declining revenue C >>         year over year, the stock has bounced from $2-$6 dollars ( >>         per share the past 2 years... > J > That is because Sun had near monopoly on the .com market which has sinceI > vanished and this is it normal to see Sun drop in market share from its 4 > artificial high when it surfed atop the .com wave. >   8 	Not so.  Go back and read the server stats you clipped.9 	IBM and others have been growing while sun is shrinking. < 	You can't attribute their current difficulties to something; 	that happened over three years ago (.com bubble burst) the ( 	after effects have long since vanished.  L > What would be interesting now would be to compare more recent market shareH > between solaris, HP-UX, Tru64 , AIX and Linux. I'd be willing to bet aJ > chocolate cookie that Sun is fairing better than both HP-UX and AIX, but# > certainltly not as good as Linux.   A 	Tell us what that means, "recent" and "fairing better" , solaris # 	versus others are vacuous at best.    				Rob    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 20:07:17 +0000 (UTC)6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)F Subject: Re: Why do I need Read access to a directory, to WRITE to it?0 Message-ID: <newscache$gg3z4i$4bq$1@news.sil.at>  \ In article <415DC4AE.D1CD9E2A@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Syltrem wrote: D >> Why do I need the Read privilege on the directory to write to it? > K >Because in order to update the actual directory file, you need to read its N >structures, update the structures and write them back. Creating file inside a3 >dirtectory requires you update the directory file.   F While this is logical and true, I think every system manager asked theJ same question before (how can a user copy a file into an archive directory/ without being able to read the whole archive)..    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   Date: 2 Oct 2004 17:04:39 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) F Subject: Re: Why do I need Read access to a directory, to WRITE to it?3 Message-ID: <sUxhi05e3ahU@eisner.encompasserve.org>   i In article <newscache$gg3z4i$4bq$1@news.sil.at>, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes:   H > While this is logical and true, I think every system manager asked theL > same question before (how can a user copy a file into an archive directory1 > without being able to read the whole archive)..   F Have a writeable (and readable) directory into which users copy files.  F Add a detached process which periodically renames the files elsewher.e   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.548 ************************