1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 13 Oct 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 569       Contents: Alpha COBOL Debugger anomolies Re: Another newbie question  Re: ftp directory (ls) format * Inconsistent file structure level on mount! Installing X apps on VAX vs Alpha  Re: Laptop as a terminal?  Re: Laptop as a terminal?  Re: Laptop as a terminal?  Re: Laptop as a terminal?  Re: Laptop as a terminal? , Re: memory performance Alpha, Itanic and SUNP Re: Obsucure Inquier article about Intel mentions VMS (and not any other  OS') o Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap  Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap  Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap  Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap  Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap ) Re: openVMS network configuration problem ) Re: openVMS network configuration problem  Re: OT: IBM Redbooks Re: OT: IBM Redbooks Re: OT: IBM Redbooks OT: PayPal outage  Re: termios  for VMS?  Re: termios  for VMS?  USB ports on DS10L Re: USB ports on DS10L  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 01:48:22 -0700. From: mcwilliamt@aforbes.co.za (Tom McWilliam)' Subject: Alpha COBOL Debugger anomolies = Message-ID: <34f95bea.0410130048.653b4c48@posting.google.com>   C It was with great interest that I read a posting to this group from D 1996 entitled "AXP program crashes vs. VAX crashes: Traceback info".8 We are currently experiencing the very same problem! :-)  A     We are running a large COBOL based legacy application and are B having many problems with the COBOL Debugger. We are running underF 7.3-2 of the operating system, Compaq COBOL V2.8-1286 for the compilerD and OpenVMS Alpha Debug64 version 7.3-200 for the debugger. The mostB persistent problem is that programs do not always execute with the< same results in debug as they do when run without the debug.B     The problems currently encountered, started with the migrationD from a VAX to the new hardware platform (ES47), which also coincidedB with upgrading to the newer, supported, version of COBOL. I am notD aware of any program or compile script changes that they should have2 made when migrating from the Vax to the Alpha box.F     As with the original posting, "The problem is that when crashes ofB this kind occur on the VAX I get the exact line number and routineC name of the error in the traceback info so it's easy to correct. On F the AXP this is not as simple, I get traceback info, routine names andE line numbers but then find that the error didn't occur there but at a D completely different location. The only way to find that location isA to step through the program in the debugger ......... and when it E suddenly jumps to a totally unexpected location somewhere else in the 1 program I know I have found what I'm looking for.   E This is not exactly a lot of fun to do and takes an awful lot of time D compared to the VAX where I was always given the correct location of? the error and could correct it immediately instead of going and F stepping through dozens, hundreds or, in the worst cases, thousands of lines of code in the debugger."   - I have already checked to see that all of the ; responses/recommendations to the original posting have been , implemented, yet the problem still persists.  @ Surely the fixes applied to the comilers for the debug/tracebackD information in the late 90's would have been applied the the current versions of the compilers?  . Any recommendations would be well appreciated.   Regards,   Tom.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:27:50 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> $ Subject: Re: Another newbie question' Message-ID: <416D0326.F961D209@aaa.com>    Joel Loveless wrote: >  > Try  >  > $ create/dir [test]  > G > this will create a directory called test in the root directory of the ? > disk set you are currently located. To create a subdirectory;  >   6 And "disk set" can be current physical disk or current "rooted logical name" disk.   > In any case, it's on the current "device" as shown by SHO DEF, if I'm not wrong...    Be carefull... :-)  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 07:26:20 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org& Subject: Re: ftp directory (ls) format3 Message-ID: <8qiUzBwdYeqm@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <4b6ec350.0410121317.79ab2488@posting.google.com>, JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) writes:[ > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote in message news:<JLm$nqvQbg+p@eisner.encompasserve.org>...  > ... > >> Does anyone know of an internet FTP site hosted by OpenVMS? >>   >> Try ftp.process.com >>  M >> That site is run by Process Software, the current vendors for both TCPWare - >> and Multinet.  It runs the TCPWare server.  >> ... >> 	John Briggs  > % > Thank you. We used to use Multinet. C > We might use it again if its version of FTP works better with the D > third party custom control that our developer needs for a wireless > solution.   B In that case, I hope you read to the bottom of my posting in whichH I mentioned ftp.multinet.process.com as well.  That server runs MultinetG in Unix emulation mode.  And Unix emulation mode should be a useful way   to paper over FTP client idiocy.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 09:00:07 -0700& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan)3 Subject: Inconsistent file structure level on mount = Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0410130800.3a97961b@posting.google.com>   @ Just started up an AS200 after sitting for about 1 month; it wasF running properly when shut down.  OpenVMS V7.3-2, patched up to around> August 1,  IBM 9GB system disk (ODS5, hard links), and Quantum0 Fireball (I know, I know) 8.4GB data disk, ODS5.  @ The system is unable to mount the data disk.  Error reported is:  : %MOUNT-W-INCONSTRUCT, inconsistent file structure level on
 _node$dka300: > -MOUNT-I-DOSETVOL, use SET VOLUME/STRUCTURE_LEVEL and remount.E %MOUNT-W-INCONSIZE, inconsistent number of blocks reported, some data  may not be accessible 5 %MOUNT-F-FILESTRUCT, unsupported file structure level   C The V7.2 docs show this error as possible if a SET VOLUME/STRUCTURE D command does not complete or fails, but the fix of mounting /NOSHAREB with no other qualifiers produces the same message.  The disk doesE mount /FOREIGN, and the system is reporting no errors on the drive or C SCSI bus.  Block dumps of the first few blocks appear to be normal,  but I've not pushed further.  D Its not a disaster; no backup but this is just a test system and theF data drive only held install kits which are easily (if slowly over our internet link!) replaced.   C The Fireball ran clean for several years in a VAX system, and for a F couple of continuous months on this AS200, but it _is_ a fireball withC the crappy pseudo-TCQ, so it could certainly have been the cause of E the problem.  The real question; any way to regain access to the data E on this disk so I don't have to spend a few hours downloading again?  ? Any way to place solid blame on the disk (in which case we live D without it despite the lack of reported errors)?  Or could somethingC else cause this problem despite clean shutdowns when the system was  idled?   Thanks!    Rich CCS    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:13:06 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> * Subject: Installing X apps on VAX vs Alpha, Message-ID: <416CFF86.A921BA77@teksavvy.com>  J Is there a document which provides examples on how one should distribute XH apps on VAX and Alpha considering those have 2 totally different session$ managers and application databases ?  I Or are the difference such that one can only supply the files and get the G system manager to manually add the proper information to the respective  application databases ?   I (I think i know how I can hack the vue$*.vue$dat files on VAX, the record H structure is fairly simple), but I have no idea how it is done on Alpha.  N Also, on VAX, applications started from the session manager have access to theK various vue$ "functions" at the DCL level, same as if they had been started # from the filemanager "application".   K Is that the case on CDE as well, or is there both filemanager  as well as a N different CDE startup environment which would supply a filename in a different/ fashion than the filemanger's vue$xxxxx setup ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:34:10 +0200 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>" Subject: Re: Laptop as a terminal?& Message-ID: <416D04A2.2BBE4872@hp.com>   James Nykiel wrote:  >  > Greetings: > H > I am going to be receiving an AlphaStation 200 4/233 (Thank you Alan!)K > within the next couple of weeks but unfortunately it now appears that the 8 > monitor I was planning on using may be on its way out! > G > I have an IBM ThinkPad X20 laptop running Linux Fedora Core 2 and was J > wondering if it is possible to somehow use the laptop as a "terminal" soL > that I can install and use OpenVMS until I round up a replacement monitor? > J > If this is even possible what all do I need to do, buy, or build to make > it so. >  > Thanks - Jim5 You could use separate console and xterm connections: @ for the console use a null-modem cable to the alpha comm port 1,
 connected D using Kermit or something similar that can use a VT style interface.4 At the dead-sergeant prompt set console to "serial".E Once OpenVMS is up (with TCP/IP and DECwindows support) you can login  over   the serial line, and do a @   $ SET DISPLAY/CREATE/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=<your-Linux-address>   $ CREATE TERMINAL/DETACH: which should/might display a DECterm on your Linux screen.  G Note: I have tried and succeeded both (Kermit console, and SET DISPLAY)  - . but separately, i.e. not on the same systems.    HTH  Mike.  --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:08:38 +0200 ! From: Soterro <soterroatyahoocom> " Subject: Re: Laptop as a terminal?9 Message-ID: <416cfe21$0$323$4d4ef98e@read.news.ch.uu.net>    Mike Rechtman wrote:G > Once OpenVMS is up (with TCP/IP and DECwindows support) you can login  > over   > the serial line, and do a B >   $ SET DISPLAY/CREATE/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=<your-Linux-address> >   $ CREATE TERMINAL/DETACH< > which should/might display a DECterm on your Linux screen.  	 You mean:  $ CREATE/TERMINAL=DECTERM   H And of course everything can be started then to display on your linux X  server:  $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:VUE$MASTER    The link to this and more:K http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/5633/5633pro_010.html#remote_apps_sec    HTH, S    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:30:27 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> " Subject: Re: Laptop as a terminal?' Message-ID: <416D03C3.2F9408E4@aaa.com>    David J Dachtera wrote:  >  > James Nykiel wrote:  > >  > > Greetings: > > J > > I am going to be receiving an AlphaStation 200 4/233 (Thank you Alan!)M > > within the next couple of weeks but unfortunately it now appears that the : > > monitor I was planning on using may be on its way out! > > I > > I have an IBM ThinkPad X20 laptop running Linux Fedora Core 2 and was L > > wondering if it is possible to somehow use the laptop as a "terminal" soN > > that I can install and use OpenVMS until I round up a replacement monitor? > > L > > If this is even possible what all do I need to do, buy, or build to make
 > > it so. > # > Well, of course there's Kermit...  > J > However, if all you need is just a serial console terminal (TTY quality,H > little or nothing more), even the crippled HyperTerm that shipped with  > older WhineBloze will suffice. > J > Try to get Kermit or some other freeware serial terminal program, if youC > can't afford/justify Reflection or some other (lesser) commercial  > terminal program.    On a Linux system ?  Interesting...  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:53:38 GMT ! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> " Subject: Re: Laptop as a terminal?8 Message-ID: <292qm0to798fdh0t9ep337ijt27ir14edg@4ax.com>  1 On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:34:10 +0200, Mike Rechtman ' <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com> wrote:   F >Once OpenVMS is up (with TCP/IP and DECwindows support) you can login >over  >the serial line, and do a  A >  $ SET DISPLAY/CREATE/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=<your-Linux-address>  >  $ CREATE TERMINAL/DETACH ; >which should/might display a DECterm on your Linux screen.   6 This will fire up a full CDE desktop on your Linux box  ( $ mcr cde$system_defaults:[bin]dtsession   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:54:49 -0700 3 From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet01REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> " Subject: Re: Laptop as a terminal?. Message-ID: <416D5DD9.6010407@Flying-Disk.com>   James Nykiel wrote:   H > I am going to be receiving an AlphaStation 200 4/233 (Thank you Alan!)K > within the next couple of weeks but unfortunately it now appears that the 8 > monitor I was planning on using may be on its way out! > G > I have an IBM ThinkPad X20 laptop running Linux Fedora Core 2 and was J > wondering if it is possible to somehow use the laptop as a "terminal" soL > that I can install and use OpenVMS until I round up a replacement monitor?  A No problem.   I use Kermit on Red Hat Linux all the time for just C this purpose.   That and a "lap link" serial cable is all you need. @ My local electronics store sells the cable with *both* 9-pin and> 25-pin serial connectors on each end, which makes it ideal forG mix-and-match situations.   This is also known as a "null modem" cable.   = On the back of the AlphaStation 200 are two 9-pin connectors. ' The top one is the serial console port.   @ In Kermit, type SET LINE /dev/ttyS0 (or whatever serial port you@ are using), SET SPEED 9600, SET CARRIER_WATCH OFF, then CONNECT.8 At this point you should be talking to the AlphaStation.  @ After you power-on the AlphaStation, hit Return a few time until7 you get the ">>>" prompt, then type SET CONSOLE SERIAL. > To get back to Kermit, type Control-backslash, followed by the	 letter C.   ? One valuable feature of Kermit is the ability to log everything C to a file for later examination.   The command LOG SESSION filename / will log all console I/O to the specified file.   = You can get Kermit from http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ at no B cost (except for Kermit-95 for Windows, which is still a bargain).2 I think that it is also on one of the Red Hat CDs.   Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:54:52 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__harrison@sun__.com> 5 Subject: Re: memory performance Alpha, Itanic and SUN 0 Message-ID: <ckjfjv$hub$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   David Svensson wrote: s > Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__harrison@sun__.com> wrote in message news:<ckebpv$qoa$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>...  >  >>Dirk Munk wrote: >>' >>>Look at this little table I found at  >>> 9 >>>http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/top20/Bandwidth.html  >>>  >>; >>The clue to why your contention may not be as safe as you 2 >>think is hidden in the following compile options >> >>SGI Altix 3000 result 8 >>-i8 -extend_source -O3 -mP2OPT_hlo_pref_hint=3 -openmp >> >>HP SuperDome result F >>cc +DSitanium2 +DD64 +O3 +Odataprefetch -Wl,+pd,64M -c second_wall.cJ >>mpif90 -o stream_d.mpi +Ofaster +DSitanium2 -Wl,+pd,64M +DD64 +Onoopenmp2 >>+extend_source +noppu stream_mpi.f second_wall.o >> >  > E > Are you deliberately hiding the truth by being vague and confusing?  >   C No not at all, SPTREAMS is a benchmark that can use MPI it can also B derive huge benefit from hints that assist the VM on a NUMA system5 like the SuperDome, F15K, SGI Altix and IBM P Series.   @ What it doesn't help you understand is the bisectional bandwidth> of the system and so although the STREAMS bandwidth number may@ be interesting to certain types of HPC tests they don't tell you( much that helps you for other workloads.  E The important thing is always to know what you don't understand hence * my point which you very kindly reinforced.   Regards  Andrew Harrison E > There is nothing special about the SGI Altix result. The thing that E > stands out here is that this Superdome result is an MPI result, but = > apparently the use of MPI does not change the results much. + > Here is the Superdome result without MPI: G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- G > Machine ID                   ncpus    COPY    SCALE      ADD    TRIAD G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- G > HP_Integrity_SuperDome_16cell  64  82276.0  81269.0  83037.0  84049.0  > $ > A comparison with 64-way machines: > G > HP_AlphaServer_GS1280-1300     64 407351.0 400142.0 437010.0 431450.0 G > SGI_Altix_3000                 64 106457.0 105359.0 123968.0 124601.0 G > HP_Integrity_SuperDome_16cell  64  82276.0  81269.0  83037.0  84049.0 G > Sun_F25K-1050-32chip           64  28074.0  27606.2  31248.8  31306.0  > * > The EV7 system interconnect is stunning.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:24:56 +0100 9 From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__harrison@sun__.com> Y Subject: Re: Obsucure Inquier article about Intel mentions VMS (and not any other  OS') o 0 Message-ID: <ckjhca$iio$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Main, Kerry wrote:  G > Take a big company like IBM - what do you think an AIX field person's J > chances are of convincing their Mgmt to quit promoting Linux as AIX is a > better system? > G > Or even Sun - what would someone like Andrew's chances be to convince E > his Mgmt that investing in AMD is a mistake as SPARC is the only HW  > solution to focus on?  >   > That would have been very unlikely since I was one of a number; of people in Sun who advocated for an early adoption of the  AMD64 platform.    Regards  Andrew Harrison J > The wise man knows when to pick his battles and when to bend when he has > to.  >  > :-)  >  > Kerry Main > Senior Consultant  > HP Services Canada > Voice: 613-592-4660  > Fax: 613-591-4477  > kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom > (remove the DOT's and AT)  > & > "OpenVMS has always had integrity ..  > Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .." >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:23:37 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap+ Message-ID: <2t4cbkF1rspv9U1@uni-berlin.de>   & On 2004-10-13 02:36, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > [...]  > O > I note that while graphics are mentioned for 8.2, Graphics are "TBD" for 8.3.   G I guess it's because the current "Radeon 7500" graphics adapter will be H no longer available when 8.3 will be ready to ship -- and a decision for( a new adapter card hasn't been made yet.  K > Anmd nowhere in that 47 page document (PDF version) is there mention of a  > roadmap for X-windows/Motif.   "Server-centric" view?   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:46:34 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap+ Message-ID: <2t4cbmF1rspv9U2@uni-berlin.de>   + On 2004-10-12 23:28, "warren sander" wrote:    > [...]  > K > I've tried the other sizes that powerpoint lets you do slides and basicly  > it's not worth the extraM > effort vs the gain in readability. Hopefully the PPT, PS, PDF or Zip of the  > PS should be enough for you H > to re-construct on various platforms. btw, I used the adobe generic ps% > driver for the postscript versions.   G There is a rather strange phenomenon (page 9): the font type, size, and G line wrap is very different in the PPT and PDF versions, making the PDF G version nearly unreadable due to overlapping text strings. (Tested with ( "Reader 5.1" and "Acrobat 6.0" as well.)   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:50:55 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap, Message-ID: <416D0860.93E99F07@teksavvy.com>   Michael Unger wrote:Q > > I note that while graphics are mentioned for 8.2, Graphics are "TBD" for 8.3.  > I > I guess it's because the current "Radeon 7500" graphics adapter will be 5 > no longer available when 8.3 will be ready to ship    J If the text had been "YES" instead of "TBD", then it would have been quiteL obvious and unequivocal that there would be graphocs support, but that it is4 rteasonable that they woudln't know yet which model.  J As written, it leaves the door opened to having no graphics down the road.    M > > Anmd nowhere in that 47 page document (PDF version) is there mention of a   > > roadmap for X-windows/Motif. >  > "Server-centric" view?  M Some of the VMS engineers have tried very hard to tell us that there would be L graphics available following the announcemnt that HP would no longer produceL IA64 based workstations. Having this spelled out clearly on paper would haveI helped confirm once and for all that workstation configured servers would @ still be sold, and that VMS would continue to support X-windows.  G (the HP web site does not mention availability of servers configured as 6 workstations for IA64, but does for Alpha and PaRisc).   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:53:48 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap, Message-ID: <416D090D.81940A2D@teksavvy.com>   Michael Unger wrote:I > There is a rather strange phenomenon (page 9): the font type, size, and I > line wrap is very different in the PPT and PDF versions, making the PDF I > version nearly unreadable due to overlapping text strings. (Tested with * > "Reader 5.1" and "Acrobat 6.0" as well.)  M On a MAC, page 9 of the PDF document is readable. It is the page with the big . arrow titled "HP ____VMS  The Road to Itanium"   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:53:12 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> " Subject: Re: OpenVMS : New Roadmap+ Message-ID: <2t4jamF1mhcl8U1@uni-berlin.de>   & On 2004-10-13 12:53, "JF Mezei" wrote:   > Michael Unger wrote:J >> There is a rather strange phenomenon (page 9): the font type, size, andJ >> line wrap is very different in the PPT and PDF versions, making the PDFJ >> version nearly unreadable due to overlapping text strings. (Tested with+ >> "Reader 5.1" and "Acrobat 6.0" as well.)  > O > On a MAC, page 9 of the PDF document is readable. It is the page with the big 0 > arrow titled "HP ____VMS  The Road to Itanium"  G It might depend on the fonts installed locally (and on font replacement F algorithms) -- the PDF document doesn't contain *all* fonts referenced in it.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:26:55 GMT ) From: simon@stirley.me.uk (Simon Stirley) 2 Subject: Re: openVMS network configuration problem2 Message-ID: <416d02d6.1294189986@news.demon.co.uk>  3 On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:54:43 GMT, "Andy Bustamante" % <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net> wrote:   H >I'd recommend checking the speed/duplex settings.  Watch this on boot &J >tcpip startup.  Autonegotiate doesn't have a great track record, try hard2 >setting the Alpha and the other end, if possible. >   A Thanks .. it was the auto-negotiate I think. Working nicely now !    Simon.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:49:34 +0200 ! From: Soterro <soterroatyahoocom> 2 Subject: Re: openVMS network configuration problem9 Message-ID: <416d07b9$0$327$4d4ef98e@read.news.ch.uu.net>    Simon Stirley wrote:F > Hi .. I've got an openVMS box (DEC Alpha) all installed, licensed upF > and running Motif quite happily. However the network is now refusingG > to connect - no IP connection can be negotiated from the DHCP server,   F May sound silly, but did you install also the necesary licenses to be 0 able to run TCPIP? Like a NET-APP-SUP-something?  G If that is fine, I'd check the network mask. To see what you currently  	 have use:  $ TCPIP SHOW INTERFACE/FULL H Don't forget to check the routes of your fresh TCPIP configuration (the % gateway should be the default route).   I Not at least, it depends also on your TCPIP stack version whther you can   DHCP or not.   S    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 05:16:52 -0700. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) Subject: Re: OT: IBM Redbooks = Message-ID: <f30679fb.0410130416.782a2f60@posting.google.com>   t johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) wrote in message news:<5d708ac7.0410122035.1c0af615@posting.google.com>... > > > F > > >I think the OpenVMS community should "copy" this model of writingD > > >books. There is too much informarion spreaded in the web sites. > > >  > > >    > > > L > > Silly question, but since IBM has always been known as Big Blue, why did< > > they choose to call them RedBooks rather than BlueBooks? > >  > > F > > As for having VMS equivalents, there used to be when Digital ownedK > > Digital Press; books, magazines, mailers - each specific to the Digital G > > products line.  Nothing better than owning your own printing press, H > > somewhere HP, Compaq, or perhaps even Digital, lost sight of that... > E > Perhaps the OpenVMS equivalent could be called OrangeBooks (for the > > early VMS binders), or GreyBooks (for the later binders), orF > BlackBooks ( for the current direction HP is taking VMS... no, wait,G > let's not go there).  Alternatives could be DECbooks (taken already?)  > VMSbooks?  VMSInfo?     G For me ... HP must buy the Digital Books portfolio, convert in PDFs and F put them for free in the HP Press site ! :-) May be the OpenVMS, HP-UX- OpenView documentation would be welcome ! :-)    Regards    FC   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:23:26 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>  Subject: Re: OT: IBM Redbooks , Message-ID: <2dadnc1X4sfbg_DcRVn-gw@igs.net>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:< > johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) wrote in message; > news:<5d708ac7.0410122035.1c0af615@posting.google.com>...  >>>>F >>>> I think the OpenVMS community should "copy" this model of writingD >>>> books. There is too much informarion spreaded in the web sites. >>>> >>>> >>>>D >>> Silly question, but since IBM has always been known as Big Blue,D >>> why did they choose to call them RedBooks rather than BlueBooks? >>>  >>> F >>> As for having VMS equivalents, there used to be when Digital ownedC >>> Digital Press; books, magazines, mailers - each specific to the ? >>> Digital products line.  Nothing better than owning your own G >>> printing press, somewhere HP, Compaq, or perhaps even Digital, lost  >>> sight of that... >>F >> Perhaps the OpenVMS equivalent could be called OrangeBooks (for the? >> early VMS binders), or GreyBooks (for the later binders), or G >> BlackBooks ( for the current direction HP is taking VMS... no, wait, H >> let's not go there).  Alternatives could be DECbooks (taken already?) >> VMSbooks?  VMSInfo? >  > E > For me ... HP must buy the Digital Books portfolio, convert in PDFs  > and H > put them for free in the HP Press site ! :-) May be the OpenVMS, HP-UX/ > OpenView documentation would be welcome ! :-)     K That would be called 'supporting your users and making an investment in the H future'. This is clearly beyond 'the plan of record' for VMS and as such will never happen.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 08:34:54 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: OT: IBM Redbooks 3 Message-ID: <ghkMdCTJ3Pm8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   o In article <5d708ac7.0410122035.1c0af615@posting.google.com>, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) writes:   G > let's not go there).  Alternatives could be DECbooks (taken already?)   F There are at least two instances of DEC reusing a name for a differentE product.  DECset was one, and the other was an inter-application link B mechanism whose name I forget (DEClink?).  Of course I never _did_D understand what the usurper product did, making it clear how useless& taking over the name turned out to be.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 08:30:54 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: OT: PayPal outage3 Message-ID: <sQejvjoD1P14@eisner.encompasserve.org>   G http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/10/12/paypal.outage.ap/index.html   F talks about a serious (to the owners and users) PayPal outage after an application software upgrade.   K Does anyone here know what operating system, database, programming language ' or validation methodology PayPal uses ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:07:30 +0200 / From: Bernard Giroud <bgiroud2@_nospam_free.fr>  Subject: Re: termios  for VMS?/ Message-ID: <416CC622.701D60BD@_nospam_free.fr>    "galenlt@ucia.gov" a crit :  F > I suspect the answer to this question is no or I would have found it > more easily, but here goes:  > E > Is there a port of termios for VMS? I could use one that runs under C > either GNV or "native" VMS. Even a limited port would probably be 
 > helpful. > I > The OpenVMS Porting Libraries don't include it, and the current version 3 > of GNV doesn't either, as nearly as I can tell...   ? When I looked around a year ago, there was nothing. And because ; I needed to port ncurses 5.4 to OVMS Alpha, we had to write 6 some specific code. You can have it as is, if you wantH (send me an email at work: bernard dot giroud at creditlyonnais dot ch).  8 The ideal would be to take that code out of the specific9 ncurses support and make it a true termios interface ;-))     If you'd like to take the job...   -- Bernard Giroud! Open Source COBOL Tools Developer    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 08:49:14 -07000 From: chris_doran@postmaster.co.uk (Chris Doran) Subject: Re: termios  for VMS?= Message-ID: <948f0720.0410130749.5a791006@posting.google.com>   e David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<416C95E7.A6B5C6CA@comcast.net>...  > "galenlt@ucia.gov" wrote:  > > H > > I suspect the answer to this question is no or I would have found it > > more easily, but here goes:  > > G > > Is there a port of termios for VMS? I could use one that runs under E > > either GNV or "native" VMS. Even a limited port would probably be  > > helpful. > > K > > The OpenVMS Porting Libraries don't include it, and the current version 5 > > of GNV doesn't either, as nearly as I can tell...  >  > <Donning dental smock> >  > What is "termios"?  @ termio(s) is the Unix module which reads and changes serial lineB characteristics like baud rate, terminators, timeout, etc. The VMS; equivalent is SYS$QIO with function IO$_SENSEMODE (read) or C IO$_SETMODE (change), with terminator/timeout control being done on D each individual read (IO$_READ). Because of this last difference andC other fundamental operational differences, it would be difficult to D write a plug-in termios simulator. For porting the other way (VMS toD HP-UX or Windows) I have a package that does some of the more commonB read/write functions required by our company products, but I still> have a lot of conditionalised in-line calls, sticking with rawB SYS$QIOs for everything on VMS as they're much more powerful IMHO.  E If the OP tells me specifically what he wants to do, I should be able E to tell him the VMS equivalent calls or dig out some sample code, but  really, RTF I/O Drivers M :-(    Chris    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Oct 2004 01:49:20 -0700/ From: stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au (Stuart Norris)  Subject: USB ports on DS10L < Message-ID: <51262235.0410130049.38d3d1a@posting.google.com>  
 Dear Readers,   9 It is possible under VMS to use the USB ports on a DS10L?n   Thanks   Stuart   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:53:13 GMTf! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>  Subject: Re: USB ports on DS10L 8 Message-ID: <kj0qm0dviv42vuapo11823pu2k3pbnujg0@4ax.com>  O On 13 Oct 2004 01:49:20 -0700, stuie_norris@yahoo.com.au (Stuart Norris) wrote:a   >Dear Readers, >e: >It is possible under VMS to use the USB ports on a DS10L?  P No. The only Alphaservers with supported (or even working) USB ports are the EV7O based machines. If you are lucky you can find an old USB PCI card that uses theoJ same chip & use this but with the one slot on your DS10L that's not such a useful option.   -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.569 ************************