1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 26 Oct 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 595       Contents:H .htaccess page protection don't work after update to Apache 2 (CSWS 2.0)2 Automatic logoff - Pathworks Advanced Server v7.3A6 Re: Automatic logoff - Pathworks Advanced Server v7.3A( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing( Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing Re: Change only date of files  Re: DECSERVER 900TM  Re: DECSERVER 900TM 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... 9 Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... # RE: Latest on Windoze Navy software - Re: Need help on Socket Application with Java $ OpenVMS Documentation (was: Request)( Re: OpenVMS Documentation (was: Request) Problems with AS400 and KZPCM ! Re: Problems with AS400 and KZPCM  Re: Question about Descriptors Re: Question about Descriptors recherche serveur d'occasion. ! Re: recherche serveur d'occasion. ! Re: recherche serveur d'occasion.  Request  Re: Request  Re: Request  Re: Request ( Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release( Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release) Re: SAN DISK - PROBLEM W/MNT STATE - MSCP 1 Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Strange BACKUP message   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 05:08:14 -0700% From: spi@equicon.de (Joerg Spilling) Q Subject: .htaccess page protection don't work after update to Apache 2 (CSWS 2.0) = Message-ID: <dfc30fc1.0410260408.19ca62a9@posting.google.com>   D I have updated CSWS1.3 to CSWS2.0 under OpenVMS/AXP 7.3-2 on Sunday.F Now, the .htacess based page protectin don't work. I have checked thatD the files are all STMFL and accessible to APACHE$WWW. I have checked@ the old and new httpd.conf -> no difference at the corresponding@ sections. I can call/open the pages without to be prompted for a username/password.   Any ideas are welcome!   Joerg    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:43:32 -07006 From: andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com (Andrew Rycroft); Subject: Automatic logoff - Pathworks Advanced Server v7.3A = Message-ID: <58ba0101.0410260643.592c7587@posting.google.com>    Hi,   F I am using OpenVMS v7.3-1 with Advanced Server v7.3A. We find that ourD users who have drives mapped, get automatically logged off at 18:00.B They first get a Messenger Service pop up window to the PC warningC them that their logon time ends at 18:00. We do not know where this E message is coming from. Some of the users accounts are set to log off > at 19:00, others have no restriction. Is there a global server@ parameter way you can set this from OpenVMS ? Any tips and clues appreciated.   Thanks Andrew   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:12:09 -0400 $ From: "PEN" <paul.nuneznosp@mhp.com>? Subject: Re: Automatic logoff - Pathworks Advanced Server v7.3A , Message-ID: <clm0hc$djg$1@hplms2.hpl.hp.com>   Hi,   D "Andrew Rycroft" <andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com> wrote in message 7 news:58ba0101.0410260643.592c7587@posting.google.com...  > Hi,  > H > I am using OpenVMS v7.3-1 with Advanced Server v7.3A. We find that ourF > users who have drives mapped, get automatically logged off at 18:00.D > They first get a Messenger Service pop up window to the PC warningE > them that their logon time ends at 18:00. We do not know where this G > message is coming from. Some of the users accounts are set to log off @ > at 19:00, others have no restriction. Is there a global serverB > parameter way you can set this from OpenVMS ? Any tips and clues > appreciated. >  > Thanks > Andrew  K Is this Advanced Server a PDC of a domain or does it serve another role in   the domain?   M The only "global" parameter is the autodisconnect registry parameter, but it  H only applies to idle sessions.   You might just peruse the registry for ? non-default values anyway and see if anything looks suspicious:   # $ @sys$startup:pwrk$define_commands 4 $ pipe regutl show param  *  *  | type/page sys$pipe  L The issue between user accounts set to logoff at 19:00 who get disconnected I at 18:00 may be due to an incorrect TDF factor on the Advanced Server ($  M @sys$manager:utc$time_setup).  Course, if it is incorrect and you correct it  5 now, it will need to be adjusted again this Sunday...   J I'm not aware of any reported problems in regard to user logon times, but L you truly are running v7.3A (no ECO), you may want to get ECO3 installed as M it contains a significant number of fixes.  It can be obtained from the ITRC   FTP server at:  ` ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/layered_products/alpha/ADVANCSERV-V0703-A3.PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE   HTH,   Paul     ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:30:24 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing ; Message-ID: <Arrfd.6981$YL.674566@twister.southeast.rr.com>   ; "Garry" <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> wrote in message  ' news:clh28b$f1n$1@news.netkonect.net...  > Hi, G > I'm considering using OpenVMS for a web server, it'll be for a small  J > commercial company, so I'm not sure if I can get away with the Hobbyist H > licence. Right now I don't want to sign my soul over to HP just for a L > pricing quote, so can someone give me a ball-park figure for OpenVMS on a M > single processor 1U rackmount? Something like a DS10L, or if I can get one  I > cheap, a supported Itanium machine. I figure I can get the machine off  1 > eBay, so it's just the OS I need the quote for.      Island Computers http://www.islandco.com    Configure DS10L at Island 0 http://www.islandco.com/ds10l_custom_system.html       Ken  OpenVMS.org % _____________________________________  Kenneth R. Farmer <>< & SpyderByte: http://www.SpyderByte.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:44:59 +0000 - From: Garry <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> 1 Subject: Re: Ball-park figure for OpenVMS costing - Message-ID: <clm2es$h01$1@news.netkonect.net>    Kenneth Farmer wrote: = > "Garry" <asdfasdfadsf@asdfasdfasdfre.com> wrote in message  ) > news:clh28b$f1n$1@news.netkonect.net...  >  >>Hi, G >>I'm considering using OpenVMS for a web server, it'll be for a small  J >>commercial company, so I'm not sure if I can get away with the Hobbyist H >>licence. Right now I don't want to sign my soul over to HP just for a L >>pricing quote, so can someone give me a ball-park figure for OpenVMS on a M >>single processor 1U rackmount? Something like a DS10L, or if I can get one  I >>cheap, a supported Itanium machine. I figure I can get the machine off  1 >>eBay, so it's just the OS I need the quote for.  >  >  >  > Island Computers > http://www.islandco.com  >  > Configure DS10L at Island 2 > http://www.islandco.com/ds10l_custom_system.html >  >  >  > Ken 
 > OpenVMS.org ' > _____________________________________  > Kenneth R. Farmer <>< ( > SpyderByte: http://www.SpyderByte.com  >  >   H Thanks to all who replied, looks like the OpenVMS for me would be about H $500, which on top of the hardware,  a bit pricey for me (for what will # be almost exlusively a web server).   ; It's a shame as the DS10L seems quite reasonable at Island.    Cheers   Garry    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 00:17:42 -0700# From: dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley) & Subject: Re: Change only date of files= Message-ID: <1ca82fc6.0410252317.52fbc532@posting.google.com>   f mchen@houston.rr.com (Mark) wrote in message news:<b66bb298.0410251659.7398d486@posting.google.com>... > Hi there,  > H > Does any one know how to change just the date, NOT the time, of files.1 > This can be either for Mac OS X or PC Win 2000.   http://web.volftp.mondadori.com/7 pub/pc/windows/win98/utility/file_processing/wtouch.zip + will do it (you can read italian can't you)  Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:13:31 -0400  From: "none" <none@none.net> Subject: Re: DECSERVER 900TM2 Message-ID: <hrpfd.19$Qy.14@fe39.usenetserver.com>  L "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> wrote in message6 news:ERefd.15159$xb.1639@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...G > Try <CTRL-B> a couple of times during power-up from a terminal on the K > console port. Should get you the "dead sergeant" prompt (>>>). Thereafter  > try H for help.  > ? > Also try INIT FROM ETHERNET UPDATE FLASH DELAY 0 IMAGE _file>  >  > --   >    none replies ...  L I already tried "INIT FROM ETHERNET ..." and it won't write the image either because of the boot block.  3 Local -909- Requesting software update of Flash RAM 7             (This can take several minutes, be patient) # Local -042- Flash RAM update failed 0 Local -610- Unknown Flash RAM device ID detected    H I'll try the console break method and see if there's anything there that works.   Thanks!    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:29:13 +0000 (UTC) % From: Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org>  Subject: Re: DECSERVER 900TM6 Message-ID: <slrncnsgrq.8tt.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>  N In article <hrpfd.19$Qy.14@fe39.usenetserver.com>, none <none@none.net> wrote: > N > I already tried "INIT FROM ETHERNET ..." and it won't write the image either > because of the boot block. > 5 > Local -909- Requesting software update of Flash RAM 9 >             (This can take several minutes, be patient) % > Local -042- Flash RAM update failed 2 > Local -610- Unknown Flash RAM device ID detected  G Flash chips are actually very specific -- the low-level details such as 4 programming methods, timing tolerances, etc. varies.  G So as a safety precaution, anything that handles flash chip programming H would check device IDs to make sure they attempt to reprogram only flash' chips they know they can safely handle.   G So you may be able to use off the shelf flash cards *BUT* you will have H to make sure they use the exactly right mfr/model of flash chips inside.  > (Same reason why you can't just use 'any' flash chips for a PCF motherboard; you have to look up the specific mfr/model and use one of6 the flash chips the BIOS flash utility can deal with.)  G It sounds like the chips that you have in your card are not the same as E what the 900TM can handle, so most likely this is the culprit of your 	 problems.   G Someone reported success with the 900TM flash cards by buying this very   specific third party make/model:  ( Mitsubishi MELCARD MF82M1-GBDAT01 2Mbyte  , Someone also suggests this one *might* work:  ( Mitsubishi MELCARD MF82M1-77DAT01 2Mbyte  G Someone said that DEC used the -77DAT01 a lot for 'routers' (presumably H routers, bridges, switches, hubs, and terminal servers) of that era, but* didn't know about the 900TM in particular.  7 Someone else did use -GBDAT01 just fine with the 900TM.   + Don't know what other cards are compatible.    -Dan   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:54:56 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGB Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ...0 Message-ID: <00A39EB9.98DDEDA4@SendSpamHere.ORG>  c In article <1Ph475QkY2r7@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: p >In article <5d708ac7.0410251421.444c2b66@posting.google.com>, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) writes:b >> Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message news:<00A39E1F.9A665CFA.3@tachysoft.com>... >>  Q >>> I have a tremendous problem with devices on the system that did not appear in Q >>> SRM.  All of them seem to begin with MBA or LTA.  What is going on here?  :-)  >>> S >>> =============================================================================== R >>> Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com? >>> http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html     >>  	 >> Wayne, F >>   MBAXXX devices are VMS mailboxes used for internal communicationsI >> between processes. They do not correspond to actual physical devices.  I >> LTAXXX are also "Virtual Devices", in this case, for LAT connections - I >> usually from DECservers but could be any other network devices capable ) >> of communication via the LAT protocol.  > F >Wayne not only knows that, he knows the meaning of the ":-)" which he >posted. > F >What Wayne did not know (nor did I) is that so many _other_ people do >not understand  ":-)" !  G I know a group of fucktard law(lie)yers and the prevaricating purveyor  F of purloined products that hired them that claim not to be able to un-F derstand it either.  Be careful Wayne as I know you know firsthand howG these greedy creatures can contort your sarcasm and take it out of con- 	 text.  ;)       --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:59:35 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGB Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ...0 Message-ID: <00A39EBA.3F41EF56@SendSpamHere.ORG>  S In article <clkneh$tdp$1@news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> writes:  >Larry Kilgallen wrote: r >> In article <5d708ac7.0410251421.444c2b66@posting.google.com>, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) writes: >>  b >>>Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message news:<00A39E1F.9A665CFA.3@tachysoft.com>... >>>  >>> Q >>>>I have a tremendous problem with devices on the system that did not appear in Q >>>>SRM.  All of them seem to begin with MBA or LTA.  What is going on here?  :-)  >>>>S >>>>=============================================================================== R >>>>Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com? >>>>http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html     >>> 	 >>>Wayne, F >>>  MBAXXX devices are VMS mailboxes used for internal communicationsI >>>between processes. They do not correspond to actual physical devices.  I >>>LTAXXX are also "Virtual Devices", in this case, for LAT connections - I >>>usually from DECservers but could be any other network devices capable ) >>>of communication via the LAT protocol.  >>   >>  H >> Wayne not only knows that, he knows the meaning of the ":-)" which he
 >> posted. >>  H >> What Wayne did not know (nor did I) is that so many _other_ people do >> not understand  ":-)" ! > Q >Many news / mail programs (like Mozilla for VMS) will translate ":-)" in a nice  R >yellow smiling face. There are many other smilies that can be translated as well.  ' My newsreader translates ":-)" to ":-)"   F I know what it means!  I don't need any graphic "Wal-mart smile" tran- scription to elucidate.    --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:48:53 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) B Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ...3 Message-ID: <Jfd7XGwCqN25@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <dEffd.32142$l07.11113@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com> writes: > M > Some excellent answers so far, but beware, Wayne does have a smiley on this  > question.   D    Yeah, oops, missed that until I posted.  Maybe it will be usefull    to one of our newbies.    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:52:12 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) B Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ...3 Message-ID: <9D1WKk4trd9C@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <00A39EBA.3F41EF56@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:     ) > My newsreader translates ":-)" to ":-)"  > H > I know what it means!  I don't need any graphic "Wal-mart smile" tran- > scription to elucidate.   G So you are under the impression that Wal-mart has been paying royalties H to the artist who devised the smiley face.  That is uncharacteristically naive of you, Brian :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:43:38 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>B Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot .../ Message-ID: <00A39EC0.5A02BE73.1@tachysoft.com>   . >From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsC >Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... ! >Date: 25 Oct 2004 20:56:19 -0500  >Organization: LJK Software   p >In article <5d708ac7.0410251421.444c2b66@posting.google.com>, johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) writes:b >> Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message news:<00A39E1F.9A665CFA.3@tachysoft.com>... >>  Q >>> I have a tremendous problem with devices on the system that did not appear in Q >>> SRM.  All of them seem to begin with MBA or LTA.  What is going on here?  :-)  >>> S >>> =============================================================================== R >>> Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com? >>> http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html     >>  	 >> Wayne, F >>   MBAXXX devices are VMS mailboxes used for internal communicationsI >> between processes. They do not correspond to actual physical devices.  I >> LTAXXX are also "Virtual Devices", in this case, for LAT connections - I >> usually from DECservers but could be any other network devices capable ) >> of communication via the LAT protocol.  > F >Wayne not only knows that, he knows the meaning of the ":-)" which he >posted. > F >What Wayne did not know (nor did I) is that so many _other_ people do >not understand  ":-)" !    N Wow, in any case I sure wasn't expecting so many responses.  Or any responses,N for that matter.   I was assuming that people would [hopefully] chuckle and go on to the next post.  M I do apologize to the original poster.  I don't think *anybody* has responded N to him.  I was just teasing him a little and it wound up hijacking the thread.  M I do agree with Alan Winston that the responses to my "problem" were good and  might be of use to somebody.   Wayne O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Larry(sniffing):"I smell something awful." Moe:"Yeah, well don't brag about it."   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 06:53:38 -0700/ From: johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com (John Reinhardt) B Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ...= Message-ID: <5d708ac7.0410260553.4ec7f784@posting.google.com>   _ Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote in message news:<00A39E47.6954E686.1@tachysoft.com>...    > # > It was a joke.  See ":-)" at end. Q > =============================================================================== P > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com= > http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    Q > =============================================================================== R > Larry(sniffing):"I smell something awful." Moe:"Yeah, well don't brag about it."  D *sigh*  Well, you know, I kind of wondered, but I know the list doesF have some people pretty unfamiliar with VMS so...  Oh well.  I guess I5 should have checked out Wayne's web sites first.  ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:25:05 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>B Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot .../ Message-ID: <00A39EC6.248118FC.6@tachysoft.com>   . >From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vmsC >Subject: Re: Devices not VISABLE at SRM, but visible post-Boot ... ! >Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:52:12 -0500   V >In article <00A39EBA.3F41EF56@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >  > * >> My newsreader translates ":-)" to ":-)" >>  I >> I know what it means!  I don't need any graphic "Wal-mart smile" tran-  >> scription to elucidate. > H >So you are under the impression that Wal-mart has been paying royaltiesI >to the artist who devised the smiley face.  That is uncharacteristically  >naive of you, Brian :-)    O AFAIK, wallymart has never paid Forrest Gump a dime.  If you recall, he created H the smiley face (and "shit happens") during his "run from one end of the! country to the other" phase.  :-) O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Larry(sniffing):"I smell something awful." Moe:"Yeah, well don't brag about it."   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 12:10:41 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) , Subject: RE: Latest on Windoze Navy software3 Message-ID: <grPkK2s7sel7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDGEGOFLAA.dallen@nist.gov>, "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> writes:* > The C "char" is just a (real) short int.  E    K&R defined short as the shotest "natural" integer on the machine. @    Which means for most machines char must be unnaturally short.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:51:26 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 6 Subject: Re: Need help on Socket Application with Java3 Message-ID: <dyB5lzotB8l1@eisner.encompasserve.org>   X In article <0eefd.852$9b.592@edtnps84>, "Jerry Alan Braga" <jabraga@flanagan.ca> writes: > O > I have created java apps that can read tcp ports, but I have never created a  M > service type application that can create the socket and then have the java   > constantly listening on it.   F    Programming sockets in Java is a lot like programming sockets in C,    but easier.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:32:29 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> - Subject: OpenVMS Documentation (was: Request) + Message-ID: <2u6djuF244ghsU1@uni-berlin.de>   / On 2004-10-26 08:13, "Muhammad Jahanzeb" wrote:    > [...]  > F > Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference > or related material.  < Start at <http://www.hp.com/go/openvms> and follow the linksE "Documentation" and then "Operating System". Look for "User's Manual" E and "System Manager's Manual" -- perhaps "DCL Dictionary" (DCL is the C command language of VMS) and "System Management Utilities Reference H Manual" for further reading. All these manuals are available for free inJ PDF format. (Assuming of course you are running a current version of VMS.)  ? And in addition, the DCL command "HELP [topic]" is your friend.    Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:56:28 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 1 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Documentation (was: Request) 3 Message-ID: <ylZvIeq5nXGq@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <2u6djuF244ghsU1@uni-berlin.de>, Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com> writes: 1 > On 2004-10-26 08:13, "Muhammad Jahanzeb" wrote:  >  >> [...] >>  G >> Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference  >> or related material.  > > > Start at <http://www.hp.com/go/openvms> and follow the linksG > "Documentation" and then "Operating System". Look for "User's Manual" G > and "System Manager's Manual" -- perhaps "DCL Dictionary" (DCL is the E > command language of VMS) and "System Management Utilities Reference J > Manual" for further reading. All these manuals are available for free inL > PDF format. (Assuming of course you are running a current version of VMS.)  D Better yet, find the CDROM containing that information at your site.C If you are the new system manager, you may need the binaries on the 0 CDROMs that accompanied the documentation CDROM.  D But don't use the finding of that data as justification to "fix" VMSC issues by "reinstalling the operating system".  That is an approach 4 only generally useful with lesser operating systems.  A > And in addition, the DCL command "HELP [topic]" is your friend.    Absolutely !   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:52:33 +0200 ( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>& Subject: Problems with AS400 and KZPCM3 Message-ID: <000001c4bb6b$6c96bf50$994614ac@wat153>    Hello,  @ I would like to configure our AlphaStation 400 as a DLT --> SDLTB copystation. I have plug in two KZPCM and one Elsa Gloria Synergy.@ Within console (V7.2-1) I will see all devices including the twoB DE500-AAs. If I tried to boot this station as satellite within ourB cluster, it failed. It starts normal with the BOOTDRIVER, the MSCPH connection and the OpenVMS 7.3-1 message. After that I will see an EWA0,H FastFD set by console and the station hangs. Using a DE500-AA instead ofA the implementat DE500-AA within the KZPCM it works. But with this A configuration (DE500, KZPCM, ELSA) I do have too less SCSI ports.    TIA and best regards R. Wingert    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:48:37 -0400 ( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>* Subject: Re: Problems with AS400 and KZPCM* Message-ID: <417E7FE5.10309@tsoft-inc.com>   Rudolf Wingert wrote:    > Hello, > B > I would like to configure our AlphaStation 400 as a DLT --> SDLTD > copystation. I have plug in two KZPCM and one Elsa Gloria Synergy.B > Within console (V7.2-1) I will see all devices including the twoD > DE500-AAs. If I tried to boot this station as satellite within ourD > cluster, it failed. It starts normal with the BOOTDRIVER, the MSCPJ > connection and the OpenVMS 7.3-1 message. After that I will see an EWA0,J > FastFD set by console and the station hangs. Using a DE500-AA instead ofC > the implementat DE500-AA within the KZPCM it works. But with this C > configuration (DE500, KZPCM, ELSA) I do have too less SCSI ports.  > ! > TIA and best regards R. Wingert  >  >   N Are you letting the DE500 autodetect speed?  Many posts have indicated "don't  use autodetect".  = I believe that the DE500-BA is the model that works with VMS.    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 09:22:48 -0700+ From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) ' Subject: Re: Question about Descriptors = Message-ID: <bec993c8.0410260822.262d6fdc@posting.google.com>   s Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@REMOVEintelME.com> wrote in message news:<ic6in0lbvgia5e0ndrhlas4p62lkmq09c9@4ax.com>... O > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:24:50 -0400, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:  > @ > >You forgot BASIC, which may be the best at string processing. > P > BASIC?  PL/I?  MUMPS?  Pikers.  For string processing, no language I have ever > seen beats SNOBOL4.   ? I actually liked DIBOL for how it handled descriptors.  It even F let you effortlessly do math with numbers that were stored in strings.   Tim.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:38:21 -0400 # From: sol gongola <sol@adldata.com> ' Subject: Re: Question about Descriptors + Message-ID: <417E8B8D.86983B5F@adldata.com>    Tim Shoppa wrote:  > u > Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@REMOVEintelME.com> wrote in message news:<ic6in0lbvgia5e0ndrhlas4p62lkmq09c9@4ax.com>... Q > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:24:50 -0400, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:  > > B > > >You forgot BASIC, which may be the best at string processing. > > R > > BASIC?  PL/I?  MUMPS?  Pikers.  For string processing, no language I have ever > > seen beats SNOBOL4.  > A > I actually liked DIBOL for how it handled descriptors.  It even H > let you effortlessly do math with numbers that were stored in strings. >  > Tim.  
 So did cobol. 8 If you moved a character string with numeric characters 8 into a field define as numeric digits, you were able to 0 do math with it. PL/1 had a similar capability.   C Other languages required explicit conversion between character and  ? numeric format (i.e. fortran encode/decode) or had an available B subroutine library to perform math with numeric character strings.  < I think I missed the posting that defined string processing. my 2 cents: P String processing includes a native ability to define character string variables( Move character strings between variablesO Define default behaviour for moving strings between different length variables. ,   i.e. truncate, extend with a pad character Ability extract/use substrings   Concatenate strings 3 Search for a character or substring within a string   ; All the general purpose languages mentioned above had that  5 capability with or without descriptors. Except for C.   E The additional pattern matching/replacing capability mainly belonged  C to the interpreter and string processing languages such as snobol,   spitbol, awk, sed, and others.   sol    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:38:11 +0200  From: "ZoummuoZ" <rex@tft.de> & Subject: recherche serveur d'occasion.2 Message-ID: <cll65n$8og$1@s5.feed.news.oleane.net>  L Je suis a la recherche d'une machine alpha type ds10, 15 ou 20 pour palier H un hypothtique arrt de mon serveur actuel. Un ds20, 1Go, 4Mo de cache,
 UltraSCSI160. K Mon appli sera change dans un ou deux an et ils seront surement reproposs  sur ce forum ;-).   
 Merci  tous.  Salutations.   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 08:07:28 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: recherche serveur d'occasion.3 Message-ID: <pZg6eHrwAhLO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   R In article <cll65n$8og$1@s5.feed.news.oleane.net>, "ZoummuoZ" <rex@tft.de> writes:N > Je suis a la recherche d'une machine alpha type ds10, 15 ou 20 pour palier J > un hypothtique arrt de mon serveur actuel. Un ds20, 1Go, 4Mo de cache, > UltraSCSI160. M > Mon appli sera change dans un ou deux an et ils seront surement reproposs  > sur ce forum ;-).  >  > Merci  tous.  > Salutations. >   "    The best bablefish could do is:  G I am has research d'une standard machine alpha ds10, 15 or 20 for stage H with a hypothetical stop of my current waiter. A ds20, 1Go, 4Mo of mask,G UltraSCSI160. My appli will be changed in one or two year and they will ( be surely reproposs on this forum; -).    Thank you with all. 
 Greetings.  ! freetranslation.com came up with:   C I am has the research of a machine alpha typical ds10, 15 or 20 for F bearing to a hypothetical stop of my current waiter.  A ds20, 1GO, 4MOD of mask, UltraSCSI160.   My appli will be changed in an or two years6 and they will be surement reproposs on this forum; -)  F So I'm really not sure what you want to know about a DS10, but I thinkH your trying to replace a DS20?  I believe there's a french VMS newsgroup
 somewhere.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:42:56 -0400 * From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca>* Subject: Re: recherche serveur d'occasion.3 Message-ID: <ousfd.199$dq4.10797@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>    Regarde sur eBay Lookup eBay    --   Syltrem    OpenVMS 7.3-1 + Oracle 8.1.7.4H http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site, en franais)% ---zulu is not in my email address--- 2 "ZoummuoZ" <rex@tft.de> a crit dans le message de, news:cll65n$8og$1@s5.feed.news.oleane.net...L > Je suis a la recherche d'une machine alpha type ds10, 15 ou 20 pour palier  J > un hypothtique arrt de mon serveur actuel. Un ds20, 1Go, 4Mo de cache, > UltraSCSI160. B > Mon appli sera change dans un ou deux an et ils seront surement
 reproposs > sur ce forum ;-).  >a > Merci  tous.t > Salutations. >r >d >    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Oct 2004 23:13:39 -07002 From: jahanzeb.rahim@gmail.com (Muhammad Jahanzeb) Subject: Request= Message-ID: <27adcc99.0410252213.5cbbd240@posting.google.com>V   Hellog  B I have just joined a cellular company where I have been exposed toF OpenVMS. Needless to say, I am a newbie in OpenVms and need immediate,@ simple and easy reference material on OpenVms. Please share yourB thoughts on how I should proceed and any material you have (basicsC first). I am not sure, I will be deeply involved with vms but stillS% want to stay comfortable with the OS.i  D Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference or related material.   Thanks alot.
 -Jahanzeb.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 03:02:46 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>M Subject: Re: Request, Message-ID: <417DF67F.43FE2944@teksavvy.com>   Muhammad Jahanzeb wrote:F > Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference > or related material.  L If you have access to VMS, you can type HELP at the $ prompt, and start with the topic "Hints".H You can then move through other topics that are in lowercase characters.  M If you access it through the xwindows interface, there is also help available @ through the xwindows interface, and reelevant appliacations are:( 	bookreader -> to read VMS documentation9 	decterm	-> start a xterm equivalenrt VT interface to VMS  	@3 VMS documentation is alaso available on the web at: ) 	http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/index.htmle  M The second topic on the left is for the VMS operating system. (don't mind the M terrible design of the site, it os HP mandated sillyness such as single pixel.8 tiled images instead of specifying a colour background).    - Some of the books which may be of use to you:EM HP OpenVMS DCL Dictionary	-> definition of all standard VMS commands at the $p prompt e  @ OpenVMS Programming Concepts Manual -> describes varous standard structures,formats etc for r 							  programmers.     G OpenVMS User's Manual -> probably the first manual you want to consult.r   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 07:57:50 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)4 Subject: Re: Request3 Message-ID: <Jmn09FIHXQoS@eisner.encompasserve.org>   r In article <27adcc99.0410252213.5cbbd240@posting.google.com>, jahanzeb.rahim@gmail.com (Muhammad Jahanzeb) writes: > Hellog > D > I have just joined a cellular company where I have been exposed toH > OpenVMS. Needless to say, I am a newbie in OpenVms and need immediate,B > simple and easy reference material on OpenVms. Please share yourD > thoughts on how I should proceed and any material you have (basicsE > first). I am not sure, I will be deeply involved with vms but stillw' > want to stay comfortable with the OS.e > F > Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference > or related material.      Get the FAQ:a  =       http://www.openvms.compaq.com, as well as other places.   G    Read the User's Manual so you know what VMS and how to get around ing?    it.  Read the Programming Concepts manual if your doing someiC    programming.  Each language that ships for VMS also has a User'sn.    Guide on how to use that language with VMS:  '       http://www.openvms.compaq.com/docf  *    Logon and type HELP, read what it says.  E    Go back to the FAQ, re-read that part about posting good questionsw    here, and do so.g      Welcome to the party!   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 06:53:55 -0700( From: tjonard@usa.net (Thomas A. Jonard) Subject: Re: Request< Message-ID: <3ad0fd0.0410260553.74d2c032@posting.google.com>  w jahanzeb.rahim@gmail.com (Muhammad Jahanzeb) wrote in message news:<27adcc99.0410252213.5cbbd240@posting.google.com>...l > Helloa > D > I have just joined a cellular company where I have been exposed toH > OpenVMS. Needless to say, I am a newbie in OpenVms and need immediate,B > simple and easy reference material on OpenVms. Please share yourD > thoughts on how I should proceed and any material you have (basicsE > first). I am not sure, I will be deeply involved with vms but stilld' > want to stay comfortable with the OS.n > F > Will be obliged if anyone can share an easy to use command reference > or related material. >  > Thanks alot. > -Jahanzeb.  B A wealth of useful information can be found in the OpenVMS FAQ at:  ;       http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.htmlr   Tom   / Thomas A. Jonard,  jonard<at>XLNsystems<dot>coms Senior Consultant, XLNsystemsf, XLNsystems -- VMS specialists, CharonVAX VAR   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:58:43 +0100e+ From: "Tom Wade" <nospam@picard.eurokom.ie>_1 Subject: Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new release-2 Message-ID: <8Srfd.40074$Z14.14465@news.indigo.ie>  C "Jean-Franois Pironne" <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in messagea1 news:4177d48d$0$31749$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...6B > A new release of Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS has just been released.K > Download and information from http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jyc/   H I didn't see mention of it in the release notes indicated, but does thisG version support encrypted passwords, so that Windows clients can use itH= without having to fiddle around with their registries first ?r    ? ---------------------------------------------------------------r< Tom Wade             | EMail: tee dot wade at eurokom dot ie? EuroKom              | X400:  g=tom;s=wade;o=eurokom;p=eurokom;d/ Unit A2              |        a=eirmail400;c=ieo/ Nutgrove Office Park | Tel:   +353 (1) 296-9696e/ Rathfarnham          | Fax:   +353 (1) 296-9697.< Dublin 14            | Disclaimer:  This is not a disclaimerC Ireland              | Tip:   "Friends don't let friends do Unix !"_   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:01:10 -0600t. From: "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc..com>1 Subject: Re: Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS, new released/ Message-ID: <XEtfd.7$g82.20022@news.uswest.net>-  J Yes.  All version of Samba 2.x for VMS have supported encrypted passwords.  
 Mike Ober.  6 "Tom Wade" <nospam@picard.eurokom.ie> wrote in message, news:8Srfd.40074$Z14.14465@news.indigo.ie... >tE > "Jean-Franois Pironne" <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in messagee3 > news:4177d48d$0$31749$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...oD > > A new release of Samba 2.2.8 for OpenVMS has just been released.! > > Download and information fromr+ http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/jyc/o >nJ > I didn't see mention of it in the release notes indicated, but does thisI > version support encrypted passwords, so that Windows clients can use ita? > without having to fiddle around with their registries first ?' >u >tA > ---------------------------------------------------------------p> > Tom Wade             | EMail: tee dot wade at eurokom dot ieA > EuroKom              | X400:  g=tom;s=wade;o=eurokom;p=eurokom;p1 > Unit A2              |        a=eirmail400;c=ie 1 > Nutgrove Office Park | Tel:   +353 (1) 296-9696w1 > Rathfarnham          | Fax:   +353 (1) 296-9697e> > Dublin 14            | Disclaimer:  This is not a disclaimerE > Ireland              | Tip:   "Friends don't let friends do Unix !"x >i >y >w   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 09:54:09 -0500/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)-2 Subject: Re: SAN DISK - PROBLEM W/MNT STATE - MSCP- Message-ID: <GYRWbd8TMq47@cuebid.zko.dec.com>C  9 moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) writes:f3 > brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:a > K >>Also, support for failover to a served path for multipath devices was not M >>added until V7.3-1, so you cannot have both direct and served paths for anyo= >>given device, given your ancient version of OpenVMS Alpha. t >  > Yes, I missed the version. > L > V7.2-1 was before (working) multipath so the old hacky behavior is at workL > here.  Upon boot, a system may find the drive $1$DGA2700: either directly G > on the SAN first, or see it being MSCP served by another node in the VJ > cluster first.  If it finds it being served first and accesses the driveG > before it is configured on the SAN, it will only use the served path,e7 > the direct path will be locked out until next reboot.R > M > Solution: Upgrade to V7.3-2, or at least a version that supports multipath.u  ' Mike's analysis, as always, is correct..   Minor nit, however!o  N Multipath has been supported since OpenVMS Alpha V7.2 for non-shadowed disks.   N Support for shadow sets was added for V7.2-1.  Fibre Channel tape support (butK non-multipath) was added in V7.3.  Multipath for tapes was added in V7.3-1.u  A Multipath failover to an MSCP path for disks was added in V7.3-1.r -- n  M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.coms   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2004 08:03:43 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman): Subject: Re: [OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2] Strange BACKUP message< Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0410260703.e4db770@posting.google.com>  o peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<newscache$gtw36i$h211$1@news.sil.at>...QA > Today I had the need to move the data from one disk to another.lK > Normally I do this via a shadow copy but this time I tried BACKUP becausee >  > $ SH DEV DSA1c > R > Device                  Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans MntR >  Name                   Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count CntR > DSA1:                   Mounted              0  LUNA         248218080    42   1C > $1$DKA200:      (LUNA)  ShadowSetMember      1  (member of DSA1:)a$ > $ MOU/SYS DSA1/SHAD=$1$DKA400 LUNA* > %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, LUNA mounted on _DSA1:O > %MOUNT-I-SHDWMEMFAIL, _$1$DKA400: (LUNA) failed as a member of the shadow setfP > -MOUNT-F-MBRTOOSMALL, must be the same size or larger than logical volume sizeC > %MOUNT-I-ISAMBR, _$1$DKA200: (LUNA) is a member of the shadow setx > N > As I have currently no space for a backup saveset, I thought I give it a tryB > and see if BACKUP is now finally able to make a diskcopy withoutL > a saveset (I do know this limitation but OTOH I can't remember having seenJ > this documented in HELP BACKUP - I think I should check again sometimes) >  > $ MOU/FOR DKA4008 > %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, SCRTCH mounted on _$1$DKA400: (LUNA) > $ BACK DSA1:/IMA $1$DKA400:sR > %BACKUP-I-INVQUAL, qualifier /$1$DKA400: is ignored with the /SINCE=BACKUP opera > tion > E > So, it is still not possible. But OTOH, look at this error message.*L > I think one of the last BACKUP ECOs (I have VMS732_BACKUP-V0200 installed)6 > has/introduced problems with command line parsing...     What happens if you do u  !     $ BACK/IMAGE DSA1: $1$DKA400:,  F ? If it is a parsing problem, which it appears to be, then it may well> make a difference to place /IMAGE, a command qualifier, in its' preferred position on the command line.-   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.595 ************************