1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 16 Sep 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 515       Contents: Alpha EV7 keyring  Re: Alpha EV7 keyring  Re: Ancient UCX help needed.... - CC /MMS_DEPENDENCIES and related difficulties ' Re: COPY bug with remote task as input. ' Re: COPY bug with remote task as input. ' Re: COPY bug with remote task as input. ' Re: COPY bug with remote task as input. # Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future. # Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future. # Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future. ( Re: HP gets 290 million defense contract  HSG80: Upgrade ACS 8.7 to 8.7-1?' Is there any Info-Vax traffic any more?  Re: Mozilla vulnerabilities / Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration / Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration / Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration / Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration / Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration 1 Re: Recommendations for secure terminal emulation 1 Re: Recommendations for secure terminal emulation  Resetting SANswitch 16= Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future. = Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future. = Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future.  Re: SPDs Re: SPDs Starting XDM$ TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?( Re: TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?( Re: TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?$ VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX0 Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?4 Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?4 Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?4 Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?A Re: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizes   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:24:52 +0200 ! From: Soterro <soterroatyahoocom>  Subject: Alpha EV7 keyring: Message-ID: <41496976$0$5445$4d4ef98e@read.news.ch.uu.net>   Hello,  * Hopefully this is not too much offtopic...  7 I just unearthed from my lab an HP keyring with an EV7  E dye/wafer/footprint/something frozen in amber. I mean 'keys' like in  G 'where the heck did I put those darn keys'. I remember getting it like  L 1-2 years ago from a company which was (and still is) heavily promoting VMS.  G Did anybody see something similar? Whose idea was it? On one side it's  < cool, on another creepy like looking at some holy remains...   S    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:26:21 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> Subject: Re: Alpha EV7 keyring3 Message-ID: <xgi2d.10865$Id6.5627@news.cpqcorp.net>    Soterro wrote:  I > Did anybody see something similar? Whose idea was it? On one side it's  > > cool, on another creepy like looking at some holy remains... >  > S   I Well I got mine from Sue but it was probably something from the hardware   group if I had to guess.   --   John Reagan / HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 03:04:48 -0700* From: cgilley@bravesw.com (Charles Gilley)( Subject: Re: Ancient UCX help needed....< Message-ID: <de3cdf0.0409160204.4b2f5229@posting.google.com>  a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<414905FA.5670BA9A@teksavvy.com>...  > Charles Gilley wrote: A > > %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection 
 > > violation = > > %UCX-E-FTP_BIND, Failed to bind the address to the socket  > > $  > M > Does INSTALL LIST/FULL SYS$SYSTEM:UCX$FTP_SERVER.EXE and UCX$FTP_CLIENT.EXE 0 > say that they were installed with privileges ? > X > If not, it probably means that the FTP server has not been activated/started properly. > J > I thini it is sys$manager:@ucx_config (or is it ucx$setup) and go to theD > server section o see whwat it thinks FTP is (enabled or disabled).  D JF - this is what I've been able to learn... it looks like it shouldC work.  I changed your command slightly...  This looks more and more > like a corruption of some basic UCX files or configuration....  + $ install list/full sys$system:ucx$ftpd.exe   + DISK$OPENVMS01A:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE>.EXE %    UCX$FTPD;1       Open Hdr Shar Prv &         Entry access count         = 0*         Current / Maximum shared   = 1 / 0&         Global section count       = 2/         Privileges = SYSNAM DETACH WORLD BYPASS   + $ install list/full sys$system:ucx$ftpc.exe   + DISK$OPENVMS01A:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE>.EXE %    UCX$FTPC;1       Open Hdr Shar Prv &         Entry access count         = 0*         Current / Maximum shared   = 1 / 0&         Global section count       = 2          Privileges = PSWAPM OPER   $      Displaying the services:   $ ucx show service *  F Service             Port  Proto    Process          Address            State   F FTP                   21  TCP      UCX$FTPD         0.0.0.0             EnabledF MOUNT                 10  UDP      UCX$NFS_M        0.0.0.0             EnabledF NFS                 2049  UDP      UCX$NFS          0.0.0.0             EnabledF PCNFS               5151  TCP,UDP  UCX$PCNFSD       0.0.0.0             EnabledF PORTMAPPER           111  TCP,UDP  UCX$PORTM        0.0.0.0             EnabledF TELNET                23  TCP      not defined      0.0.0.0             EnabledF TFTP                  69  UDP      UCX$TFTP         0.0.0.0             Enabled     From ucx$config:   Option 2: client components:  <        Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS CLIENT Components Configuration Menu           Configuration options:  /                  1  -  FTP              Enabled 0                  2  -  LPR/LPD          Disabled0                  3  -  NFS Client       Disabled0                  4  -  REXEC and RSH    Disabled0                  5  -  RLOGIN           Disabled0                  6  -  SMTP             Disabled/                  7  -  TELNET           Enabled   .                  A  -  Configure options 1 - 7                  [E] -  Exit menu   Enter configuration option:            Option 3: server components:  =         Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS SERVER Components  Configuration Menu           Configuration options:  .                  1  -  BIND           Disabled.                  2  -  BOOTP          Disabled-                  3  -  TFTP           Enabled -                  4  -  FTP            Enabled .                  5  -  LPR/LPD        Disabled-                  6  -  NFS            Enabled -                  7  -  PC-NFS         Enabled -                  8  -  PORTMAPPER     Enabled -                  9  -  TELNET/RLOGIN  Enabled .                 10  -  SNMP           Disabled.                 11  -  NTP            Disabled.                 12  -  METRIC         Disabled  /                  A  -  Configure options 1 - 12                   [E] -  Exit menu   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 01:09:13 -0500 (CDT)  From: sms@antinode.org6 Subject: CC /MMS_DEPENDENCIES and related difficulties) Message-ID: <04091601091381@antinode.org>   D    If anyone has clever ideas to solve these problems, please let me2 know.  I _have_ solutions, I just don't like them.  B       Complaint/Question 1.  How to make a useful dependency file.B       ------------------------------------------------------------  E    I want to put my generated executable, list, map, and object files G into an architecture-specific subdirectory below where the source files E are, such as [.ALPHA] or [.VAX] (or [.something_else]).  This is easy % enough to arrange in the DESCRIP.MMS:    #          vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv : CFLAGS =   /LIST = [.ALPHA] /OBJECT=$(MMS$TARGET_NAME).OBJ? LINKFLAGS = /MAP = [.ALPHA] /TRACE /EXEC=$(MMS$TARGET_NAME).EXE  #           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   # [.alpha]main.exe : [.alpha]main.obj    [.alpha]main.obj : main.c   ?    Now, imagine that there are several "#include" directives in F "main.c", so I want to replace that last dependency line with a source3 dependency file created using CC /MMS_DEPENDENCIES:   : CFLAGS =   /LIST = [.ALPHA] /OBJECT=$(MMS$TARGET_NAME).OBJ? LINKFLAGS = /MAP = [.ALPHA] /TRACE /EXEC=$(MMS$TARGET_NAME).EXE   # [.alpha]main.exe : [.alpha]main.obj    include main.mms    G    The problem is that the dependency files generated by the C compiler D (Compaq C V6.5-001 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1) always seem to look like this:    alp $ type MAIN.MMS ( MAIN.OBJ :      ALP$DKA0:[SMS.MMS]MAIN.C( MAIN.OBJ :      ALP$DKA0:[SMS.MMS]INCL.H  F Sadly, the "MAIN.OBJ" must be "[.ALPHA]MAIN.OBJ" in order to make thisF work in this situation.  I could text-process the resulting dependencyH file to add the appropriate directory, but it would be oodles handier if  the compiler could do it for me.  G    I expect to do a first-pass "CC /NOOBJECT /MMS_DEPENDENCIES" so that E I can get the dependency file construction done before starting in on E the serious compilation.  I assume that this would make it awkward to H get the prefix from the "/OBJECT = <file-spec>" qualifier as it might be> asking a lot to have that value considered seriously when it'sH accompanied by a "/NOOBJECT" qualifier.  (And then there's that sentenceB in the HELP, "Note that the /OBJECT qualifier has no impact on theF dependency file.")  (I assume that "impact" here means "effect", as no1 one is actually pounding on the dependency file.)   F    If that is a problem, then a reasonable alternative would be to addC another /MMS_DEPENDENCIES option, for example, "/MMS_DEPENDENCIES = G (OBJECT = <object_file_name>)", where I could specify my "[.ALPHA]" (or C even a specific object file name, I suppose).  I'd expect the usual @ file-spec smooshing against a default of the current "MAIN.OBJ".  E    Am I missing something obvious (again), or is this something which  might be handy?   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  G       Complaint/Question 2.  How to .INCLUDE a set of dependency files. G       -----------------------------------------------------------------   F    I have several object files, each with its own generated dependencyD file.  How can I get these all included into the DESCRIP.MMS withoutC having a separate ".include" directive for each one?  (Or how can I ; generate the separate ".include" directives automatically?)   A    Currently, I make the dependency files with a unique file type A (".mmsd"), and run a DCL procedure to create a single file with a F ".INCLUDE" directive for everyone in "*.mmsd", and I .INCLUDE that oneE in the DESCRIP.MMS.  (I could also concatenate "*.mmsd" into a single - file, but that'd be even more senseless I/O.)   9    I already have a list of object file names, like this:    OBJECTS = file1 file2 file3   C Thus, I could, with /EXTENDED_SYNTAX and $(ADDSUFFIX ...), create a " macro which had a value like this:    file1.mmsd file2.mmsd file3.mmsd  ? Unfortunately, the .INCLUDE directive takes only one file ("the G specified file", according to the HELP), not a list of files.  If I use D multiple .INCLUDE directives, I need to keep the list of object file+ names in two places, which leads to errors.   =    Again, an enhancement to MMS would make this much simpler.   A    As I said, clever ideas (or program enhancements) are welcome.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:18:56 +0200 % From: "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> 0 Subject: Re: COPY bug with remote task as input.. Message-ID: <cibhcs$sef$1@info.service.rug.nl>  2 "Hoff Hoffman" <hoff@hp.nospam> wrote in message =- news:pO_1d.10735$H85.1647@news.cpqcorp.net... @ > In article <ci6f5r$nlo$1@info.service.rug.nl>, "Fred Zwarts" = <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> writes:  >=20D >   Details on how to perform task-to-task without using the classicE >   TYPE hackery are shown in the Ask The Wizard area, in topics such ' >   as (5409), (159) (798), and (1910).  >=20- > :We run OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-1 with DECnet IV. J > :On a remote (VAX-ELN) node we have a task running which provides data = =3D  > :via DECnet.G > :On the OpenVMS system, we have a logical DAQ_DATA_UNI defined as =3D ! > :KVIE11::"task=3D3DEVENTS_UNI". < > :The DUMP DAQ_DATA_UNI command shows the data as expected.H > :The CONVERT DAQ_DATA_UNI X.X command reads and writes the data as =3D > :expected.? > :The TYPE DAQ_DATA_UNI command displays the data as expected.  > : H > :However, the COPY DAQ_DATA_UNI X.X command complains that it cannot = open& > :the input file "DISK$1:[USER].".=20 >=20  >   Exact error message, please? >=20
 >   Is it: >=208 > %COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$1:[USER].; as input > -RMS-E-FNF, file not found     Indeed.         @ > :DISK$1:[USER] happens to be the default drectory of the user." > :COPY /FTP has the same problem. > : - > :I think this is a bug in the COPY command.   > :Or has somebody another idea? >=20E >   First, please show me the statement in the OpenVMS manuals or the F >   SPD where this particular construction is supported or documented.D >   (AFAIK, this is not a supported operation for COPY or COPY/FTP.)    < Well, I cannot find it anymore in the VMS 7.3 documentation.C The documentation about DECnet seems to contain not everything that   was contained in older versions.E I still have the VMS 5.0 documentation set, from the time that this =  application  was developped. J In the System management Volume 5A Networking Networking manual, section = 8.5.1  I read:   J To perform transparent task-to-task operations, you can use DCL commands = to=20 , construct and execute command procedures.=20  I Here in the same section also the TYPE command is shown as an example.=20 J This section seems to imply that any command which accepts an input file =   parameter can be used.- Nowhere I can find that COPY is an exception.   , Where is this limitation of COPY documented?5 As soon as it is documented, it is no longer a bug :)       H >   COPY must acquires transfer-related information and defaulting basedG >   on the input source.  The other commands cited do not require that.   I COPY works on all types of devices, not only on disks. So it seems that =  COPY& is capable to obtain this information.  > You should at least admit that the error message is confusing.I If the reason is that COPY cannot perform the operation it should state =  that. G It should not talk about input files that it cannot find that have no =  relation with the specified input file.   >=203 > :But it would be nice if this bug could be fixed.  >=20E >   There are ECOs out for V7.3-1.  Do you have them loaded.  (Again, 3 >   I am not convinced that this is a bug in COPY.)  >=20E >   Please replicate this with an OpenVMS client task and using COPY, A >   or -- better -- using DECnet task-to-task communications as = 	 described B >   above, as a start, and please provide the procedures and the = messages >   received. =20  >=20H >   And, as mentioned, I expect this could easily be a limitation of theH >   way COPY works with its source file specification processing and its >   filename defaulting. >=204 >  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> = ----------------------------- 5 >     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- =  www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq 6 >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion = --------------------------- G >         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com  >=20   F.Z.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:42:38 GMT % From: Rob Brown <mylastname@gmcl.com> 0 Subject: Re: COPY bug with remote task as input.E Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0409160941480.12461@localhost.localdomain>   E If COPY doesn't work, but TYPE does, then how about TYPE/OUTPUT= ...?    --    B Rob Brown                        b r o w n a t g m c l d o t c o mA G. Michaels Consulting Ltd.      (866)438-2101 (voice) toll free! 6 Edmonton                         (780)438-9343 (voice)5                                   (780)437-3367 (FAX) 2                                   http://gmcl.com/   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 10:13:53 -0700. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)0 Subject: Re: COPY bug with remote task as input.= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0409160913.69d8f607@posting.google.com>   [ "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> wrote in message news:<ci6f5r$nlo$1@info.service.rug.nl>... , > We run OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-1 with DECnet IV.H > On a remote (VAX-ELN) node we have a task running which provides data 
 > via DECnet. C > On the OpenVMS system, we have a logical DAQ DATA UNI defined as   > KVIE11::"task=EVENTS UNI".; > The DUMP DAQ DATA UNI command shows the data as expected. D > The CONVERT DAQ DATA UNI X.X command reads and writes the data as  > expected. > > The TYPE DAQ DATA UNI command displays the data as expected. > K > However, the COPY DAQ DATA UNI X.X command complains that it cannot open   > the input J > file "DISK$1:[USER].". DISK$1:[USER] happens to be the default drectory  > of the user.! > COPY /FTP has the same problem.  > , > I think this is a bug in the COPY command. > Or has somebody another idea?  > % > We found the following work-around:  > & > $ OPEN /READ COPY INPUT DAQ DATA UNI > $ COPY COPY INPUT X.X  > $ CLOSE COPY INPUT > 2 > But it would be nice if this bug could be fixed. >  > F.Z.  F Apologies if I am missing something, but how can any of these commandsF work when your logical name contains spaces? How can DCL tell that theE spaces are part of the logical name and not token delimiters? Is this  some new feature of VMS v7.3-1?    Thanks.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:41:53 +0100 - From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> 0 Subject: Re: COPY bug with remote task as input.8 Message-ID: <tvjjk0h6bjlvv3ehv2dvbvq7jmjorl2ner@4ax.com>  G On 16 Sep 2004 10:13:53 -0700, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)  wrote:  G >Apologies if I am missing something, but how can any of these commands G >work when your logical name contains spaces? How can DCL tell that the F >spaces are part of the logical name and not token delimiters? Is this  >some new feature of VMS v7.3-1?  L Your newsreader appears to be spitting out underscores.  The logical name is  COPY_INPUT as originally posted.   --  4 Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.    Mail john rather than nospam...    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:01:58 +0100 < From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__s._harrison@s_u_n.com>, Subject: Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future.0 Message-ID: <ciboao$94g$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Tom Linden wrote: H > On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:15:47 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy 0 > <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote: >  >> Bob Ceculski wrote: >>> >>> fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) wrote in message = >>> news:<f30679fb.0409140422.7bda23de@posting.google.com>...  >>> K >>>> Furthermore Sun offers a variety of products and services, through the H >>>> HP Away program, that make it easy for HP customers to migrate to a) >>>> Sun platform with an assured future.  >>>  >>>  >>> A >>> How does sun offer an assured future?  They could go bankrupt  >>> at any minute! >>7 >> Hard to imagine since we have over 6 billion in cash 7 >> but please feel free to explain why you have reached  >> your conclusion.  >  > : > With that much cash, I am sure Carly would sell you VMS. >   , To sell it she would first need to recognise that it exists.    Regards  Andrew   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:04:58 +0100 < From: Andrew Harrison <andrew_remove__s._harrison@s_u_n.com>, Subject: Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future.0 Message-ID: <cibogc$94g$2@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   JF Mezei wrote:   * > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > 4 >>So Digital was about to go bust and was only saved >>by Compaq. >>4 >>Remeber Bob was suggesting that Sun are in iminent >>danger of going bust.  >  > O > Digital was not about to go bust. Digital had decided to seek to be purchased X > since it became obvious that current management were unable to fix Digital's problems. >   / I wasn't suggesting that Digital was going bust F > It is comparing IBM with Digital that really shows the difference inM > mentality. IBM was far closer to bankrupcy than Digital ever was.  Gerstner O > rejected the concept os selling/divesting IBM of its divisions and decided to  > fix the problems instead.  >   A Good point, Digital seems to have suffered from what you can only < describe as a crisis of confidence and lack of vision on the the part of its senior execs.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:32:41 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> , Subject: Re: From Sun:  HP-UX has no future., Message-ID: <CImdnfmy-L9gCNTcRVn-tg@igs.net>   Andrew Harrison wrote: > Tom Linden wrote: H >> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:15:47 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy1 >> <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote:  >> >>> Bob Ceculski wrote:  >>> > >>>> fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso) wrote in message> >>>> news:<f30679fb.0409140422.7bda23de@posting.google.com>... >>>>@ >>>>> Furthermore Sun offers a variety of products and services,E >>>>> through the HP Away program, that make it easy for HP customers : >>>>> to migrate to a Sun platform with an assured future. >>>> >>>> >>>>B >>>> How does sun offer an assured future?  They could go bankrupt >>>> at any minute!  >>> 8 >>> Hard to imagine since we have over 6 billion in cash8 >>> but please feel free to explain why you have reached >>> your conclusion. >> >>; >> With that much cash, I am sure Carly would sell you VMS.  >> > . > To sell it she would first need to recognise > that it exists.      Touche   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:42:42 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de>1 Subject: Re: HP gets 290 million defense contract B Message-ID: <4149c282$0$18553$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net>   John Smith wrote:    > JF Mezei wrote:  > N > http://www.nyse.com/cgi-bin/ny_news?df=NY&r=S&sym=HPQ&sl=ON-09/15-17:19-1134N > |ON-09/15-17:07-1119|ON-09/15-16:38-1100|BW-09/15-07:45-320|BW-09/15-07:45-3
 > 19|&sp=4 >  >>Sorry for wrap in URL. >>@ >>Looks like a major "consolidation" contract for the US defense
 >>department.  >>C >>Of course, no mention of platform, which probably means that this B >>involves VMS. (Otherwise HP would have touted its HP-UX or other
 >>platforms).  >>D >>Does anyone have any further details on whether VMS is involved in >>this contract ?  >>C >>Sue, if VMS was involved in this contract, then this is a perfect @ >>example of HP missing out on a free opportunity to market VMS. >  >  >  >  > Perhaps this:  > ( > http://www.dla.mil/j-6/bsm/msg_bsm.htmM > Replace our legacy materiel management systems (Standard Automated Materiel N > Management System (SAMMS) & Defense Integrated Subsistence Management System7 > (DISMS) with COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) systems.  >  > I > Of course HP's press release, (below) obviously means high availability  > Windows on 808x architecture.  > D > "The EDC program will consolidate large numbers of DLA servers andL > infrastructure into centralized facilities using the latest HP technology,L > thus allowing more efficient support to U.S. service members. The EDC willJ > reduce DLA's IT inventory resulting in a reduction of the agency's totalD > cost of ownership and will create a more modern IT infrastructure.D > The EDC also will allow for more effective implementation of DLA'sF > information assurance programs across the agency and will expand its; > disaster recovery and continuity of operations programs."  >  >   B Although I have seen VMS systems referred to as "COTS" Systems in  previous contracts ...  6 (JSTARS - http://www.armada.ch/02-5/complete_02-5.pdf)  @ it appears VMS Systems are neither the ones being replaced (two I 1960s-era, Cobol mainframe systems) or the ones doing the replacing (SAP  6 System). See the following references for more info...  6 http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/27272-1.html2 http://www.gcn.com/23_20/dodcomputing/26668-1.html* http://www.gcn.com/23_16/news/26368-1.html* http://www.gcn.com/23_16/news/26369-1.html   Cheers!    Keith Cayemberg    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 08:01:43 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) ) Subject: HSG80: Upgrade ACS 8.7 to 8.7-1? - Message-ID: <2tF8aRveY3x+@malvm7.mala.bc.ca.>   ; I just purchased a Modular Array 2200 controller (used). It 4 came with ACS 8.7F installed. I see on the ACS patchP website (http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/acs/patches/index.html)O that the latest patch level is 8.7F-7. However the lowest patch available there N is 8.7F-2. The patches need to be applied in numerical order, so I can't applyO the 8.72F-2 patch to 8.7F, I need 8.7F-1. Is the "-1" patch available somewhere I for download or does it require a new flash card? If a new card is that a 0 "free" upgrade or does it require a new license?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 07:55:13 -0400 1 From: "Farrell, Michael" <MFarrell@Voltdelta.com> 0 Subject: Is there any Info-Vax traffic any more?@ Message-ID: <37A773ADDA84D711A42700B0D0FC529C8EC973@NYEXCHANGE2>  J This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand< this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C49BE3.DAD10C52  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"   G I haven't received anything in a few weeks now.  Is the newsgroup still  active?   ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C49BE3.DAD10C52  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   1 <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">  <HTML> <HEAD>9 <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =  charset=3Diso-8859-1">@ <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version =
 5.5.2657.73"> 6 <TITLE>Is there any Info-Vax traffic any more?</TITLE> </HEAD>  <BODY>  C <P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I = = haven't received any</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 = G FACE=3D"Arial">thing in a few weeks now.&nbsp; Is the newsgroup still =  active?</FONT></P>   </BODY>  </HTML> ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C49BE3.DAD10C52--    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 09:35:44 -0700& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan)$ Subject: Re: Mozilla vulnerabilities= Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0409160835.2b2bd64c@posting.google.com>   ^ hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote in message news:<qR12d.10798$dq5.5217@news.cpqcorp.net>...h > In article <cc5619f2.0409151201.503b31bf@posting.google.com>, jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan) writes: > ..; > :Is there any info on impact to these products under VMS? G > :Or any chance that we'll see a port of the maintenance update 1.7.3?  > .. >  > D >   I've passed the report and the question along to the appropriate& >   OpenVMS business manager.  Thanks. >  > P >  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------M >     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G >         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com   N Thanks a lot, Hoff.  I look forward to whatever info you might be able to get.   Rich CCS    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:16:49 GMT ( From: Mark Schafer <mark.schafer@hp.com>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration3 Message-ID: <5ng2d.10849$va6.7316@news.cpqcorp.net>   G DSPP sent a copy to every OpenVMS SDK subscriber in North America.  It  G was a one-time promotion to our members.  You can still order it using   Warren's link.   Mark   Peter Weaver wrote:  > warren sander wrote: > E >>DSPP members got the SDK sent to them. That's not really field test 
 >>but almost.  >  > I > Is there something special DSPP members have to do to get on this list? @ > I am a DSPP member but I have not received anything from them. >  >  > D >>OpenVMS Certified Professionals will be getting access through the >>certified professionals siteD >>to the ft at some point (the meeting where I'm giving them all the  >>pages and access keeps getting
 >>postponed).  >  > G > I have not received anything from these people in a while either. The E > Compaq CD's they used to send were useless to a VMS person, but the @ > QuickFind 2000 they sent in January 2003 had some useful AlphaI > information on it. But I think that was the last thing I saw from them.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:30:28 +0100 - From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> 8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration+ Message-ID: <2qtmh3F1421pvU1@uni-berlin.de>    Mark Schafer wrote:   I > DSPP sent a copy to every OpenVMS SDK subscriber in North America.  It  * > was a one-time promotion to our members.  1 Shame on you !  That's *blatant* continentalism !    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:11:26 GMT ( From: Mark Schafer <mark.schafer@hp.com>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration3 Message-ID: <y2i2d.10862$Qg6.9929@news.cpqcorp.net>   E Yes, it is.  But it was the best I could do.  I don't have worldwide   control, yet.  :-)   Roy Omond wrote: > Mark Schafer wrote:  > J >> DSPP sent a copy to every OpenVMS SDK subscriber in North America.  It + >> was a one-time promotion to our members.  >  > 3 > Shame on you !  That's *blatant* continentalism !    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:09:04 -0400 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration+ Message-ID: <2qts51F134kjhU1@uni-berlin.de>    Mark Schafer wrote: H > DSPP sent a copy to every OpenVMS SDK subscriber in North America.  ItH > was a one-time promotion to our members.  You can still order it using > Warren's link. >...  A OK, so back to my question, how do I become a VMS SDK subscriber?    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:24:27 GMT ( From: Mark Schafer <mark.schafer@hp.com>8 Subject: Re: OpenVMS 8.2 External Fieldtest Registration4 Message-ID: <f%j2d.10884$cm6.10155@news.cpqcorp.net>   Peter,  ( login to the DSPP portal www.hp.com/dspp search for 'sdk order form' < the PDF file with the order form is there with instructions.I Or call 800 249 3294 in North America, select option 4 and ask a program   rep. for the OpenVMS Alpha SDK.   I Plans for an Itanium SDK are still in the works.  Details when it's soup.    Peter Weaver wrote:  > Mark Schafer wrote:  > H >>DSPP sent a copy to every OpenVMS SDK subscriber in North America.  ItH >>was a one-time promotion to our members.  You can still order it using >>Warren's link. >>...  >  > C > OK, so back to my question, how do I become a VMS SDK subscriber?  >    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 2004 05:53:04 GMT+ From: "Doc." <doc.cypher@openvms-rocks.com> : Subject: Re: Recommendations for secure terminal emulation7 Message-ID: <Xns956650A1B3FCDdcovmsrox@212.100.160.123>   + %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, Christoph Gartmann wrote in ( news:ci9pnj$1am$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de   @ > In article <Xns956584743D8A8dcovmsrox@212.100.160.123>, "Doc.") > <doc.cypher@openvms-rocks.com> writes:    E >>I've never had any problem using PuTTY's SSH features to run things B >>like TPU, have you checked that the terminal type is getting set
 >>correctly?   > C > And what would you recommend if you use a MacIntosh (both OS9 and 	 > OS-X)?    E For that, I have no idea as I don't (regrettably) have any Apple kit.   * Fortunately, there are others here who do.     Doc. --  G OpenVMS:     Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. G http://www.openvms-rocks.com    Deathrow Public-Access OpenVMS Cluster.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:06:21 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG: Subject: Re: Recommendations for secure terminal emulation0 Message-ID: <00A37F44.29EE9D70@SendSpamHere.ORG>  [ In article <UU42d.197808$mD.37097@attbi_s02>, "John S." <j.simakauskas@comcast.net> writes: 
 >{...snip...}.L >For OS9 and OSX MacSSH appears to works well but  I haven't spent a lot of  >time with it. It is freeware. > J >There's a list of some Windows & Mac SSH and SFTP clients at the Process H >Software web site. I put the list together after using all of them and  >others that >have been left off that list.- >http://www.process.com/sshclients/index.htmlo >e >John Simakauskas8 >Process Software QA  F On OS X, install X11 and fire up a terminal.  %ssh -X user@host.domain works fine.n  H If someone really wants a robust X11 server on OS X, get eXodus X11 from http://www.powerlan-usa.com.  H With this you can %ssh -X to the host and $ MCR DECW$STARTLOGIN and haveH your full CDE desktop.  With an Apple keyboard, it's a close to the real" McCoy as you can get in emulation.     -- o< http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.u --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMP   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:34:14 -0400A; From: "Island Computers USA" <dbturner@islandco.com.nospam>w Subject: Resetting SANswitch 16a0 Message-ID: <10kj50s5efq19e7@news.supernews.com>  I We have tried to reset some original Compaq SANswitches as we normally doB the Brocades etc.a  5 This one batch we got in is not allowing us to reset.p  K We do the standard reset on the front panel and reboot but it does not take  "admin" and "password"@ like the Brocades and most Compaq SANswitch 16 have in the past.  G IS there another default username and password we haven't heard of ????5  " Please advise if anyone has a clue  . And BTW, these all have 2.6.0c Compaq firmware   DT   email: davidathpaqdotnet David B Turner Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory St., Suite 180e Savannah GA 31404a Tel: 912 447 6622  EXT.201 Fax: 912 201 0402/   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 07:23:39 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)eF Subject: Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future.3 Message-ID: <CMcQu3YF4FHF@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  U In article <00A37E25.A7B3F81A@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:  > K > The ALPHALK2.EXE is the ONLY file on the machine and IT FREAKIN' WORKS!!!o< > I want to know where it gets this name on the PeeCee side.  H    Process logical name table?  Can you capture that while it's running?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:37:32 +0100 - From: John Laird <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk>hF Subject: Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future.8 Message-ID: <qd5jk0l1ujgbeukt396md1uaiio8eg86kk@4ax.com>  C On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:32:56 GMT, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:   \ >In article <4147B9C8.9D7CFC8@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:# >>VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:l4 >>> <me> banging head again the concrete walls </me> >>P >>Have you considered setting up a login.com to fake the dollar sign, accept anyK >>command, then invoke the right image no matter what command the remote PCr% >>thinks it has sent to the VMS box ?V >nI >That's not the point.  IT IS running the right image and files are beingBJ >transferred.  I simple do not know where the RUN ALPHALK2 comes from when3 >all of the PeeCee side of things say RUN VAXLINK2.I  L I guess your $IMGACT intercept would tell you if the emulator was emitting aH RUN VAXLINK2 command (which failed) followed by a RECALL/ERASE and a RUN! ALPHALK2 command (which worked) ?x  L If not, I do not think there are any clues from a typical VMS login sequenceK as to processor architecture.  Which only really leaves the emulator itself.F to be (smartly or dumbly depending on your viewpoint) trying the AlphaI version first when it observes that you are asking for *a* well-known VMSiJ target image.  Although it could still be executing DCL commands (F$GETSYIG say), and following those with RECALL/ERASE, neither of which leave any  clues to the casual observer.    --  6 Secrecy at my job prevents me from knowing what I do.    Mail john rather than nospam...    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:56:56 GMTm" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGF Subject: Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future.0 Message-ID: <00A37F64.6034F9DF@SendSpamHere.ORG>  q In article <CMcQu3YF4FHF@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:pV >In article <00A37E25.A7B3F81A@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >>  L >> The ALPHALK2.EXE is the ONLY file on the machine and IT FREAKIN' WORKS!!!= >> I want to know where it gets this name on the PeeCee side.0 >DI >   Process logical name table?  Can you capture that while it's running?0  K I fail to see how what is happening on the VMS process side has any bearing J on where the RUN ALPHALK2 command is defined on the PeeCee side.  However, to comply with your request:   From SDA> CLUE PROCESS/LOGICAL   Before running ALPHALK2:   Process Logical Names: ----------------------    "SYS$COMMAND" = "_TNA13:"    "SYS$ERROR" = "_TNA13:"    "SYS$DISK" = "DSA0:"a    "....," = "...,........"     "SYS$OUTPUT" = "_TNA13:"     "SYS$OUTPUT" = "_TNA13:"c    "SYS$INPUT" = "_TNA13:"    "TT" = "TNA13:"   ...and whilst running ALPHALK2:n   Process Logical Names: ----------------------    "SYS$COMMAND" = "_TNA13:"    "SYS$ERROR" = "_TNA13:"    "SYS$DISK" = "DSA0:"C    "....," = "...,........"     "SYS$OUTPUT" = "_TNA13:"     "SYS$OUTPUT" = "_TNA13:"5    "SYS$INPUT" = "_TNA13:"    "TT" = "TNA13:"-    "VAXC$PATH" = "dsa0:[user.{account_name}]"   1 I replaced the account name for security reasons.    -- C< http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.t --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMa   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:39:36 +0200 0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: SPDslB Message-ID: <4149b3b8$0$26116$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   James O'Shea wrote:nK > I need to get a hold of an SPD for Volume Shadowing, OpenVMS V6.2.  Does  7 > anyone know where I can find one online or elsewhere.  >   	 > Thanks,  > Jim O'Shea    + HP Volume Shadowing for OpenVMS - SPD - PDF22 http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP2729/SP2729PF.PDF  3 HP Software Product Descriptions are listed here...i# http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/spd/-     also of interest is the0  - HP Volume Shadowing for OpenVMS DocumentationjC http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/aa-pvxmj-te/aa-pvxmj-te.HTML1   Cheers!n   Keith CayembergI   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:51:58 +0200_0 From: Keith Cayemberg <keith.cayemberg@arcor.de> Subject: Re: SPDs1B Message-ID: <4149b69e$0$26118$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net>   Keith Cayemberg wrote:   > James O'Shea wrote:n > G >> I need to get a hold of an SPD for Volume Shadowing, OpenVMS V6.2.  t= >> Does anyone know where I can find one online or elsewhere., >>  
 >> Thanks,
 >> Jim O'Shea. >  >  <SNIP> > 	 > Cheers!  >  > Keith Cayembergt    8 Oops! I just saw that you want the OpenVMS v6.2 Version.= That, of course, is much more difficult. But, I do know whereP5 to find the Bookreader Docs for OpenVMS 6.2 online...   B http://www.sysworks.com.au/swadm_dat_root/vaxdocdec96/library.html  = If you dig down throught the doc hierarchy you'll find the..."  1 Volume Shadowing for OpenVMS v.6.1? DocumentationaI http://www.sysworks.com.au/disk$vaxdocdec963/decw$book/dy4yaa60.decw$bookC   Cheers!D   Keith Cayemberg=   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:48:06 -0700P( From: Steven Schoch <schoch@spamcop.net> Subject: Starting XDMa/ Message-ID: <cicjn6$2aef$1@news.mainstreet.net>o  D I want to connect to my VMS 7.3-1 system using XDMCP, so I ran this:   $ @tcpip$configM  >          Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Configuration Menu            Configuration options:M  (                   1  -  Core environment)                   2  -  Client components )                   3  -  Server componentso+                   4  -  Optional componentsh  C                   5  -  Shutdown Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMSoB                   6  -  Startup Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS!                   7  -  Run testsE  /                   A  -  Configure options 1 - 4d4                  [E] -  Exit configuration procedure   Enter configuration option: 3t  J    Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Server Components Configuration Menu      Configuration options:e  G      1 - BIND         No Server Licens      12 - NTP          Disabled e StoppedN   [ A whole bunch of stuff]n  G     10 - NFS          No Server Licens      21 - XDM          Disabled o Stoppedn&     11 - LOCKD/STATD  No Server Licens    #      A  -  Configure options 1 - 21      [E] -  Exit menu   Enter configuration option: 217 Invalid configuration option selected, please try again   G It doesn't seem to take anything more than 9, and even when I use "A",  < it still runs into the "Invalid configuration option" error.  G So, being impatient, I dug through the TCPIP$CONFIG.COM DCL program to  F figure out how it enables XDM.  I created the necessary files and ran ' the TCPIP command, but now I have this:a   $ TCPIPt TCPIP> show version   8    Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.35    on a AlphaStation 400 4/233 running OpenVMS V7.3-1s   TCPIP> show service XDM/full   Service: XDM/                             State:     Disabled-G Port:              177     Protocol:  UDP             Address:  0.0.0.0 I                             User_name: not defined     Process: TCPIP$XDMt   TCPIP> enable service XDMg/ %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting XDM serviceO7 -TCPIP-E-BADVALUE, value Service User_name is incorrect  -RMS-E-RNF, record not found/ %TCPIP-E-STARTERROR, error starting XDM servicee -RMS-E-RNF, record not found TCPIP>  H The TCPIP$CONFIG script specified /USER=TCPIP$XDM in the TCPIP command,  but that didn't seem to stick.   -- e SteveP   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:37:09 +0100b- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>v- Subject: TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?B+ Message-ID: <2qtmtkF1423rpU1@uni-berlin.de>w   Gentle colleagues,   $ tcpipF TCPIP> show versiona  4    HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.44    on a AlphaServer 800 5/333 running OpenVMS V7.3-2   TCPIP> sysconfig -q socket socket:i sbcompress_threshold = 0 sb_max = 1048576 sobacklog_drops = 0t sobacklog_hiwat = 1v% soinp_reuse = 1			<---- what's this ?i somaxconn = 1024 somaxconn_drops = 0 
 sominconn = 1A    8 I can find no documentation for what this does, and it's3 a (reasonably) receent addition to TCP/IP Services.a  ; The reason I'm asking is that I think I have an application-8 which might make use of it (soinp_reuse) being set to 0,8 assuming it does what I think it does (if you understand what I mean ... :-)   	 Roy OmondM Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 11:52:18 -0400r= From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com>h1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?n1 Message-ID: <avCdneURH5EsK9TcRVn-uw@adelphia.com>m  ; "Roy Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote in message t% news:2qtmtkF1423rpU1@uni-berlin.de...e > Gentle colleagues, >t	 > $ tcpipa > TCPIP> show version= > 5 >   HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4g5 >   on a AlphaServer 800 5/333 running OpenVMS V7.3-2  >a > TCPIP> sysconfig -q socket	 > socket:( > sbcompress_threshold = 0 > sb_max = 1048576 > sobacklog_drops = 0e > sobacklog_hiwat = 1(% > soinp_reuse = 1 <---- what's this ?i > somaxconn = 1024 > somaxconn_drops = 0  > sominconn = 1y >m >e: > I can find no documentation for what this does, and it's5 > a (reasonably) receent addition to TCP/IP Services.s >s= > The reason I'm asking is that I think I have an application : > which might make use of it (soinp_reuse) being set to 0,: > assuming it does what I think it does (if you understand > what I mean ... :-)Q >T > Roy Omondm > Blue Bubble Ltd.   Hi Roy,   4 I don't believe that it does what you think it does.  = An inpcb structure (in this case, tcpcb) contains all of the PI connection-based parameters that a connection needs to be managed by the  G protocol and timing code.  The Tru64 network kernel has a socket reuse  K algorithm that is used once a socket is shutdown and/or closed.  The inpcb bH is allowed to exist after the code because the local and remote network M kernels have to continue their conversation to complete the close.  The base h" kernel code is derived from Tru64.  K One of the TCP/IP engineers was investigating an extremely a problem where OI the BG device (and underlying structures) was somehow reused while still  L connected to a channel, and suspected that this algorithm may have been the C root cause.  He at least attributed the problem to bahavior around  L tcp_free_delay, but that could not be mucked with due to how it's used.  As L a result this parameter was added to be able to disable the reuse algorithm M if the problem were to surface again.  The symbol itself was added to source 2 in February, 2002.  H Do you suspect a problem around this?   The value is set to 1 (true) by ( default, and can be changed dynamically:   SDA> tcpip sysconfig socketa  C        Parameter Name              Value         Min.         Max. a	 Data Type X ------------------------------  -----------  -----------  -----------  -----------------F sbcompress_threshold                      0            0   4294967295  unsigned integer  Dynamic F sb_max                              1048576            0   4294967295  unsigned integer  DynamicwF sobacklog_drops                           0            0            0  integer           DynamiciF sobacklog_hiwat                           1            0            0  integer           DynamictF soinp_reuse                               1            0            1  integer           DynamiclF somaxconn                              1024            0        65535  integer           Dynamic F somaxconn_drops                           0            0            0  integer           DynamichF sominconn                                 1            0        65535  integer           Dynamica SDA>  K To make it permanent add a definition for it in TCPIP$ETC:SYSCONFIGTAB.DAT t' and it will take effect on every start.i   socket:b     soinpcb_reuse = 0e   -Johnd: (who is no longer working on TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS)    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:01:47 -0400e= From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com>i1 Subject: Re: TCP/IP Socket option "soinp_reuse" ?-1 Message-ID: <H9SdnQQQ4Pp3JdTcRVn-vA@adelphia.com>-  I "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com> wrote in message  + news:avCdneURH5EsK9TcRVn-uw@adelphia.com...- >-= > "Roy Omond" <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote in message -' > news:2qtmtkF1423rpU1@uni-berlin.de...e >> Gentle colleagues,[ >>
 >> $ tcpip >> TCPIP> show version >>6 >>   HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.46 >>   on a AlphaServer 800 5/333 running OpenVMS V7.3-2 >> >> TCPIP> sysconfig -q sockete
 >> socket: >> sbcompress_threshold = 04 >> sb_max = 1048576a >> sobacklog_drops = 0 >> sobacklog_hiwat = 1& >> soinp_reuse = 1 <---- what's this ? >> somaxconn = 1024  >> somaxconn_drops = 0 >> sominconn = 1 >> >>; >> I can find no documentation for what this does, and it'se6 >> a (reasonably) receent addition to TCP/IP Services. >>> >> The reason I'm asking is that I think I have an application; >> which might make use of it (soinp_reuse) being set to 0,-; >> assuming it does what I think it does (if you understandm >> what I mean ... :-) >> >> Roy Omond >> Blue Bubble Ltd.h >m	 > Hi Roy,  >u6 > I don't believe that it does what you think it does. >e? > An inpcb structure (in this case, tcpcb) contains all of the cK > connection-based parameters that a connection needs to be managed by the tI > protocol and timing code.  The Tru64 network kernel has a socket reuse tM > algorithm that is used once a socket is shutdown and/or closed.  The inpcb iJ > is allowed to exist after the code because the local and remote network J > kernels have to continue their conversation to complete the close.  The ) > base kernel code is derived from Tru64.E >QM > One of the TCP/IP engineers was investigating an extremely a problem where AK > the BG device (and underlying structures) was somehow reused while still KJ > connected to a channel, and suspected that this algorithm may have been I > the root cause.  He at least attributed the problem to bahavior around CJ > tcp_free_delay, but that could not be mucked with due to how it's used. G > As a result this parameter was added to be able to disable the reuse  I > algorithm if the problem were to surface again.  The symbol itself was u$ > added to source in February, 2002. >IJ > Do you suspect a problem around this?   The value is set to 1 (true) by * > default, and can be changed dynamically: >t > SDA> tcpip sysconfig socketg >lI >       Parameter Name              Value         Min.         Max. Data   > TypeZ > ------------------------------  -----------  -----------  -----------  -----------------H > sbcompress_threshold                      0            0   4294967295  > unsigned integer  DynamickH > sb_max                              1048576            0   4294967295  > unsigned integer  Dynamic.H > sobacklog_drops                           0            0            0  > integer           DynamichH > sobacklog_hiwat                           1            0            0  > integer           DynamicaH > soinp_reuse                               1            0            1  > integer           DynamictH > somaxconn                              1024            0        65535  > integer           DynamiccH > somaxconn_drops                           0            0            0  > integer           Dynamic-H > sominconn                                 1            0        65535  > integer           Dynamic> > SDA> >RM > To make it permanent add a definition for it in TCPIP$ETC:SYSCONFIGTAB.DAT .) > and it will take effect on every start.p >0	 > socket:+ >    soinpcb_reuse = 0 >  > -Johnc; > (who is no longer working on TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS)B >C  L After re-reading my post I realize that it looks as if English is my second G language.  It's not, German is.  I apologize ... I am working and have  & multiple streams active at the moment.   -John   J P.S. I didn't add contact info either, which is john period g atsign ossc  dot net    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:52:31 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>- Subject: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX . Message-ID: <4149544F.28535.26DD78F@localhost>  A I told you to stay tuned -- SRI announces today that you can now oB replace your VAX 6610, 6620, and 6630's with CHARON-VAX.  Details:  6     http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/CHVX_66xx.htm  ( My web page is being updated, and is at:  (     http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html  B The 6630 product on a quad AMD Opteron will yield about ~230 VUPs.    > [This is a Shameless Plug (tm) from your CHARON-VAX reseller.]
 --Stan Quaylec Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363s3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:22:39 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>i1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX ( Message-ID: <opsefeb1j9zgicya@hyrrokkin>  I On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:52:31 -0400, Stanley F. Quayle <squayle@insight.r=l
 r.com> wrote:   B > I told you to stay tuned -- SRI announces today that you can nowD > replace your VAX 6610, 6620, and 6630's with CHARON-VAX.  Details: >G8 >     http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/CHVX_66xx.htm >i* > My web page is being updated, and is at: >s* >     http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html >hD > The 6630 product on a quad AMD Opteron will yield about ~230 VUPs. >a. What are the license fees, both to SRI and HP? >e@ > [This is a Shameless Plug (tm) from your CHARON-VAX reseller.] > --Stan Quayle1 > Quayle Consulting Inc. >r > ----------/ > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363U5 > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USAg2 > stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com >  >O >e >1   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 10:58:53 -0600. From: "E.S." <emu@ecubics.com>1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAXo4 Message-ID: <iDj2d.149$qZ2.98@fe61.usenetserver.com>   Stanley F. Quayle wrote:  C > I told you to stay tuned -- SRI announces today that you can now aD > replace your VAX 6610, 6620, and 6630's with CHARON-VAX.  Details: > 8 >     http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/CHVX_66xx.htm > * > My web page is being updated, and is at: > * >     http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html > D > The 6630 product on a quad AMD Opteron will yield about ~230 VUPs.  2 Are any version for the itanium platform planned ?C I was under the impression, that HP thinks of the IA64 as the only >( viable server platform for the future ..   ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 2004 17:35:07 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAXe+ Message-ID: <2qu16bF13lpc3U1@uni-berlin.de>   4 In article <iDj2d.149$qZ2.98@fe61.usenetserver.com>,! 	"E.S." <emu@ecubics.com> writes:  > Stanley F. Quayle wrote: > D >> I told you to stay tuned -- SRI announces today that you can now E >> replace your VAX 6610, 6620, and 6630's with CHARON-VAX.  Details:7 >> 19 >>     http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/CHVX_66xx.htm4 >> |+ >> My web page is being updated, and is at:  >> i+ >>     http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.htmlo >> nE >> The 6630 product on a quad AMD Opteron will yield about ~230 VUPs.f > 4 > Are any version for the itanium platform planned ?E > I was under the impression, that HP thinks of the IA64 as the only >* > viable server platform for the future ..  tD You must have missed the point. HP thinks that, Charon is for peopleB who plan to remain on VMS but don't hold to the same vision of the future that HP has.   :-)t   bill   -- .J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:29:31 +0200s( From: "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de>9 Subject: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset? 3 Message-ID: <000d01c49bf1$34b901e0$994614ac@wat153>f   Hello,  G There is a big difference time between a file to file backup and a filecF to saveset backup. Does any body know the reason? Here some data aboutE the system: OpenVMS V7.3-1 AXP, two disks 73GB LVD SCSI, DS20 (double F processor 500MHz) with 2.25GB Memory, XFC enabled and activated and no other I/O on this SCSI bus.l   TIA and regards R. Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:21:29 +0200n2 From: Andreas Gruhl <gruhl@isidataTHISISNOTEXT.de>= Subject: Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?n6 Message-ID: <4149A169.5CFCBE32@isidataTHISISNOTEXT.de>   Rudolf Wingert wrote:    > Hello, >mI > There is a big difference time between a file to file backup and a fileeH > to saveset backup. Does any body know the reason? Here some data aboutG > the system: OpenVMS V7.3-1 AXP, two disks 73GB LVD SCSI, DS20 (doubleiH > processor 500MHz) with 2.25GB Memory, XFC enabled and activated and no > other I/O on this SCSI bus.6 >- > TIA and regards R. Wingert   Most important of all is:w   $ SET RMS/EXTEND=65000  B Otherwise VMS will be more busy allocating new saveset extents andG updating the volume's index file than actually writing your saveset :-)    Viel Erfolg!   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC)m. From: Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com>= Subject: Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?e, Message-ID: <cic7vv$nfk$1@reader1.panix.com>  K On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:29:31 +0200, Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote:eI > There is a big difference time between a file to file backup and a filetH > to saveset backup. Does any body know the reason? Here some data aboutG > the system: OpenVMS V7.3-1 AXP, two disks 73GB LVD SCSI, DS20 (double H > processor 500MHz) with 2.25GB Memory, XFC enabled and activated and no > other I/O on this SCSI bus.   ; You don't give any details about timing differences or the 1F characteristics of the files being backed up, so I can only speculate.  G The major difference between a file-to-file and saveset backup is that 7F a saveset backup is creating one file that has to grow as backup runs.  D Perhaps the growth of one saveset file has a bigger penalty than theC creation of many files of small size (relative to a saveset file). 1= What are your RMS defaults /BLOCK_COUNT and /EXTEND_QUANTITY?9  A Another possibility is high-water marking on the drive.  Perhaps rD file-to-file places files in existing free space on the drive below 8 the high-water mark, but a saveset needs space above it.   -- c7 Dale Dellutri <ddelQQQlutr@panQQQix.com> (lose the Q's)/   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 11:51:55 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)E= Subject: Re: Why is BACKUP slow if you backup into a saveset?73 Message-ID: <jfFs5Tyuh8wq@eisner.encompasserve.org>?  ^ In article <000d01c49bf1$34b901e0$994614ac@wat153>, "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> writes: > Hello, > I > There is a big difference time between a file to file backup and a file H > to saveset backup. Does any body know the reason? Here some data aboutG > the system: OpenVMS V7.3-1 AXP, two disks 73GB LVD SCSI, DS20 (double-H > processor 500MHz) with 2.25GB Memory, XFC enabled and activated and no > other I/O on this SCSI bus.: >  > TIA and regards R. Wingert  B    By default, if you are creating a saveset you get the followingC    overhead:  CRC blocks and group redundancy blocks.  File to files3    (i.e. almost "copy") needn't do either of these.0  G    You can control both with qualifers /[no]crc /group=n, where a group E    size of 0 turns off redundancy blocks.  I quite often do this when H    creating a quick saveset on disk, but never when creating a long term    saveset on tape.h  G    Both CRC and group are usefull in recovering data from deterioratingnE    savesets.  I was once able to do a good VMS 3.6 update from a bad .A    9-track drive soley because BACKUP has all this built into it.t   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2004 05:14:50 -0700. From: fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br (Fabio Cardoso)J Subject: Re: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizes= Message-ID: <f30679fb.0409160414.1125b53e@posting.google.com>y  W "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message news:<RsadncTyZdFcOtXcRVn-hg@igs.net>...eH > Too bad there aren't many apps left to sell on it though. All the more4 > reason for HP not to advertise and market OpenVMS. > 6 > "HP's Self-Fulfilling Prophecy". Fiorina, Carly(tm).2 > HP 'What Me Worry?' Press. Palo Alto, 2001-2004. >  >  > E > http://www.storagepipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=47205066  >  > September 14, 2004 > * > Disaster Recovery Planning Grows, Slowly >  >  >  > By Storage Pipeline L > The good news is that more companies are taking seriously the need to planN > for disaster recovery. The bad news is that only 38 percent have any kind ofN > plan in place to keep them operating in the event of disaster or disruption,K > according to a Veritas-sponsored survey conducted by Dynamic Markets Ltd.iN > The survey sample consisted of 1,258 IT professionals from around the world. > M > Enterprises and end-user organizations have plenty of incentive to plan forfM > disasters and business disruptions. According to the survey, 51 percent haduM > to activate their DR plans this year, compared with 33 percent in 2003. ThedJ > most common reason for activating DR--problems with hardware or softwareI > failures--was reported by 37 percent of respondents. But companies alsoeJ > reported external threats like viruses and hackers (26 percent); naturalM > disasters (14 percent); internal threats, whether accidental or intentionalvM > (13 percent); and man-made disasters such as war or terrorism (10 percent).M > J > In addition, 40 percent of respondents said they had no idea how long itN > would take to achieve normal or even skeletal operations in the wake of someL > kind of natural disaster destroying their data center. Only 3 percent saidN > they could carry on with business as usual right away, while 28 percent saidK > they could resume skeletal operations in less than 12 hours. And it takeshJ > companies more than 72 hours on average to establish skeletal operations/ > following a major fire is more than 72 hours.t > I > The potential business impact from a disaster included reduced employeemL > productivity (62 percent), reduction in profits (40 percent) and damage toK > customer relationships (38 percent). And only 44 percent use some kind of9D > data restoration or backup software for DR purposes, Veritas said.  F Im my personal opinion, there is a big lack of Integrators specializedH in Disaster Recovery. People in this newsgroup allways say that HP must B do a, b or c etc... but HP is an industry. The Integrators should N be the ones specializade in selling solutions - even plug-n-play VMS Clusters.I So if you want to see OpenVMS based solutions, put your own labs to work, F develop a "product" and knock the Pentagons door. If I had conditionsJ I would like to do the same: buy some hardware and soft and put everything to work and sell.    Regards2   FC   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.515 ************************gistration4 Message-ID: <f%j2d.10884$cm6.10155@news.cpqcorp.net>   Peter,  ( login to the DSPP portal www.hp.com/dspp search for 'sdk order form' < the PDF file with the order form is there with instructions.I Or call 800 249 3294 in North America, select option 4 and ask a program   rep. for the OpenVMS Alpha SDK.   %A
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