1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 18 Sep 2004	Volume 2004 : Issue 519       Contents:, Re: a simple question: what the h*ll is MCR?. Re: Another SPAMer farming c.o.v for addresses1 Re: cluster member crashes during boot (again...)  OT (kinda): Lexmark Printer = Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future. ( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX( Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAXC Re: Web site for more details on the European Technical Update Days - Where is the Process/Image dump information ? 1 Re: Where is the Process/Image dump information ? A Re: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizes A RE: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizes   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:07:29 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>5 Subject: Re: a simple question: what the h*ll is MCR? + Message-ID: <2r2j7mF14s7u1U1@uni-berlin.de>    Marty O'Connor wrote: 4 > "Dan O'Reilly" <dano@process.com> wrote in message= > news:6.1.2.0.2.20040914090800.028a8560@raptor.psccos.com... D > : Now on VMS, "MCR" is the same thing as saying "RUN SYS$SYSTEM:". > :  > b > Not exactly. MCR runs an image found in SYS$SYSTEM as a foreign command (xx = $sys$system:image)d > which will pass the remainder of the line to the image. The RUN command will not do that. MCR is aY > quick way to run a program that takes command line input without creating a DCL symbol.  >   F MCR uses SYS$SYSTEM as the default location. It is also possible to do  2 $ MCR my_dev:[my_dir]my_prog] parameter /qualifier   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:51:23 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk7 Subject: Re: Another SPAMer farming c.o.v for addresses ) Message-ID: <cihp2b$m68$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   \ In article <414B7563.3FE8B346@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >Bill Gunshannon wrote: K >> That's true.  But I know (or rather recently learned) that the anti-SPAM J >> measures instituted on our mailserver (which I run) result in some realL >> messages not getting through.  So, how many real messages are you missing" >> if your ISP is more agrtessive? > J >Which is why my eventual goal is to be able to have daily reports of whatH >mails have been bounced so that I can analyze the reasons for the falseM >positives and correct the situation and/or contact the originator. (which is E >why the current TCPIP Services SMTP receiver is totally inadequate.)   O If you can find a bit of money (the amount will depend upon the number of users K you have) you might want to look at Process' Precisemail Anti-spam product. M The latest beta includes a Pass through SMTP proxy which means it can be used . with any smtp server including TCPIP services.  
 David Webb Security Team Leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:25:00 +0100 2 From: Rodrigo Ventura <yoda-NOSPAM@isr.ist.utl.pt>: Subject: Re: cluster member crashes during boot (again...): Message-ID: <newscache$9sy84i$8i$1@newsfront4.netvisao.pt>   Michael Moroney wrote:/ > Rodrigo Ventura <yoda@isr.ist.utl.pt> writes:  >  >  >  >>CPU bugcheck codes: 2 >>       CPU 00 -- PROCGONE, Process not in system >  > I > This means a mandatory system process exited with an error status.  You G > must find this status to see why it failed (also which process, too). E > I believe the status is left sitting in R0.  SDA> EVAL/COND R0 will  > help lots.  E The error I'm getting now (after updating with ECO kits and fiddling  - with sysgen parameters) is this, during boot:    CPU bugcheck codes: B          CPU 00 -- SSRVEXCEPT, Unexpected system service exception   and the eval/cond r0 gives:   ) %SYSTEM-W-CTRLERR, fatal controller error   # Any clue? Is this hardware problem?    Cheers,    Rodrigo    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Sep 2004 17:41:39 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)$ Subject: OT (kinda): Lexmark Printer+ Message-ID: <2r3aajF15qmcqU1@uni-berlin.de>   C Is there anyone here using a Lexmark Optra printer that could use a B toner cartridge?  Our last Lexmark went away over a year ago and IF just found a new toner cartridge in the back of my machine room duringI a cleaning frenzy.  I have no use for this so it's available for shipping  costs.   bill     --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 18 Sep 2004 07:11:24 GMT+ From: "Doc." <doc.cypher@openvms-rocks.com> F Subject: Re: Sequel to: I'm giving up computers if this is the future.7 Message-ID: <Xns95685D8778A88dcovmsrox@212.100.160.123>   E %NEWS-I-NEWMSG, JF Mezei wrote in news:414B456D.33E92D34@teksavvy.com   ? > What you need to do actually is exposed it fully naked to the C > internet, then go to those web sites that test every port on your G > machine and taje down the list of all the ports your machine has some @ > software listening to and find a way to disable that software.  J By the time you've found a website to do that you'll probably be infected 3 with something.  It just won't be Foot and Mouth...   * http://www.c4vct.com/kym/humor/outlook.htm     Doc. --  G OpenVMS:     Eight out of ten hackers prefer *other* operating systems. G http://www.openvms-rocks.com    Deathrow Public-Access OpenVMS Cluster.    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Sep 2004 03:43:32 -0700& From: vadim.model@srm.ru (Vadim Model)1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX = Message-ID: <c34f4f8b.0409180243.3c26975f@posting.google.com>   a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<414BACA0.B1F8075C@teksavvy.com>... < > Wouldn't it be more "precice" to specify system features ? > For instance: , > 	Microvax II class CPU (provide chip name)% > 	Local drives appear as RA82 drives 3 > 	Ethernet device appears as a DELQA (or whetever) Q > 	Serial ports support modem control and appear as DHQ11 controller (TX devices) 
 > 	etc etc  F This is exactly how it works. You ask for MVII CPU with 16M of RAM andE with whatever QBUS devices you need (from the list of supported), and  you get it.   C The same is true for 6K emulator. Except that set of "emulated" XMI  devices is not big.    Regards, Vadim    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 13:58:47 GMT ) From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> 1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX & Message-ID: <414C3F5E.8000907@iee.org>   JF Mezei wrote: A > Well, we've often been told that VMS is VMS and a VAX is a VAX.   ? As far as the user is concerned, that is true. When it comes to @ configuring the chips and the rest of the hardware, a VAX-11/7809 and a MicroVAX II differ considerably. VMS knows this and 7 goes hunting for different devices in different places.   I > I can understand importance in having the right instruction set and CPU J > features when you advertise the features, but when you consider that theP > timing and speed really depend on the real host's speed, you can't really make; > such a precise emulation of a specific machine, can you ?   B If you want emulation accurate down to an instruction cycle, it isA possible to achieve that (given a sufficiently powerful host). It B is probably neither necessary nor desirable for CHARON-VAX to giveB you that, but some of the micro and handheld emulators do give you> exactly that (often because the software often depends on such things).    < > Wouldn't it be more "precice" to specify system features ? > For instance: , > 	Microvax II class CPU (provide chip name)% > 	Local drives appear as RA82 drives 3 > 	Ethernet device appears as a DELQA (or whetever) Q > 	Serial ports support modem control and appear as DHQ11 controller (TX devices) 
 > 	etc etc > 0 > As opposed to just saying we emulate a MV II ?  ; But all you have done here is said that it is a MicroVAX II  but with limited peripherals.     P > This way, when you compare the MVII vs 600 emulators, you coudl really see the' > differences in what is supported etc.   = I expect the main difference with a VAX 6000 emulator will be ? that fact that SMP support is present. Unless you have software @ that cares whether it is talking to a DELQA rather than a DEMNA,C or that cares that you are running on a VAX 6000, you may not care.   D The difference between a real VAX 6000-600 and a real MicroVAX II is@ that the 6600 will be considerably faster, can reasonably handle; more disks (uVII has a qbus between it and any disks and no D DEC CI interface) and has a much faster ethernet interface (in fact,( IIRC the DEMNA has a uVII CPU on board).  D Unless you are one of those customers that produced your own driversC or OS, you may not care very much which variant you are running on.   ? If you want to run older OS variants or run your own custom OS, 9 then the emulated hardware probably matters a great deal.    Antonio    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:56:40 +0200 + From: Wilm Boerhout <w3.boerhout@planet.nl> 1 Subject: Re: VAX 6000 replacement with CHARON-VAX 5 Message-ID: <414c3e98$0$1255$ba620dc5@nova.planet.nl>   H > I guess you have to ask the basic question, why emulate a MV when you 9 > can emulate a later model like a 3100, 4000, or 6000...  >  > Barry   H Another reason: when you want to replace a MicroVAX II with an emulated A one, you must make sure that your VMS licenses are valid for the  F emulated machine. Your Charon-VAX 3100-98 will not legally run with a # VMS base license for a MicroVAX II.    --  
 Wilm Boerhout  Zwolle, The Netherlands    wilmOLD@PAINTboerhout.nl2    (remove OLD PAINT from this address before use)   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:23:25 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> L Subject: Re: Web site for more details on the European Technical Update Days/ Message-ID: <cigk8s$820$1@titan.btinternet.com>   + I get "Plug-in did not initialize properly"    (The London one)  < Sue Skonetski <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote in message7 news:857e9e41.0409170947.2a1cd89f@posting.google.com... E > For additional information on the European OpenVMS Technical Update ( > Days please visit the OpenVMS Web page > @ > "http://h71000.www7.hp.com/events/EXTERNALCALENDARBYDATE.HTML" > @ > as more information is received this web page will be updated. >  > Warm Regards,  > Sue    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Sep 2004 07:47:23 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 6 Subject: Where is the Process/Image dump information ?3 Message-ID: <VfNwJBuVzdbc@eisner.encompasserve.org>   B Can someone tell me where in the documentation to find informationI about the use of SS$_IMGDMP.  I am particularly interested on the logical F names for controlling where the dumps go, whether privileged data gets dumped, etc.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:14:14 +0200 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>: Subject: Re: Where is the Process/Image dump information ?+ Message-ID: <2r2u5rF14cgrlU1@uni-berlin.de>    Larry Kilgallen wrote:D > Can someone tell me where in the documentation to find informationK > about the use of SS$_IMGDMP.  I am particularly interested on the logical H > names for controlling where the dumps go, whether privileged data gets > dumped, etc.  < http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/731FINAL/6017/6017pro_076.html  H "By default, process dumps are written to the current default directory @ of the user. You can override this by defining the logical name H SYS$PROCDMP to identify an alternate directory path. Note that the name D of the process dump file is always the same as the name of the main D image active at the time the process dump is written, with the file  extension .DMP.   B On Alpha systems, a process dump is either complete or partial. A < complete process dump contains all of process space and all A process-pertinent data from system space. A partial process dump  H contains only user-readable data from process space and only those data G structures from system space that are not deemed sensitive. Privileged  F or protected data, such as an encryption key in third-party software,  might be considered sensitive."    ...   I "You can allow a nonprivileged user to write a complete process dump and  B at the same time prevent the user from reading that process dump."   and describes how this is done.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:24:17 -0400 % From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> J Subject: Re: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizes0 Message-ID: <10ko2u8962vh9cd@news.supernews.com>  D If anyone here reps a VMS based Application, please forward your URLL We are redoing our website and would like to create a one-stop (or one link) shop No charge to anyone -     5 Just leave it as a link or email me at david@hpaq.net      David    --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402       . "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message& news:RsadncTyZdFcOtXcRVn-hg@igs.net...H > Too bad there aren't many apps left to sell on it though. All the more4 > reason for HP not to advertise and market OpenVMS. > 6 > "HP's Self-Fulfilling Prophecy". Fiorina, Carly(tm).2 > HP 'What Me Worry?' Press. Palo Alto, 2001-2004. >  >  > E > http://www.storagepipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=47205066  >  > September 14, 2004 > * > Disaster Recovery Planning Grows, Slowly >  >  >  > By Storage Pipeline L > The good news is that more companies are taking seriously the need to planK > for disaster recovery. The bad news is that only 38 percent have any kind  ofB > plan in place to keep them operating in the event of disaster or disruption, K > according to a Veritas-sponsored survey conducted by Dynamic Markets Ltd. G > The survey sample consisted of 1,258 IT professionals from around the  world. > I > Enterprises and end-user organizations have plenty of incentive to plan  for I > disasters and business disruptions. According to the survey, 51 percent  had I > to activate their DR plans this year, compared with 33 percent in 2003.  The J > most common reason for activating DR--problems with hardware or softwareI > failures--was reported by 37 percent of respondents. But companies also J > reported external threats like viruses and hackers (26 percent); naturalA > disasters (14 percent); internal threats, whether accidental or  intentional C > (13 percent); and man-made disasters such as war or terrorism (10 	 percent).  > J > In addition, 40 percent of respondents said they had no idea how long itI > would take to achieve normal or even skeletal operations in the wake of  someL > kind of natural disaster destroying their data center. Only 3 percent saidI > they could carry on with business as usual right away, while 28 percent  saidK > they could resume skeletal operations in less than 12 hours. And it takes J > companies more than 72 hours on average to establish skeletal operations/ > following a major fire is more than 72 hours.  > I > The potential business impact from a disaster included reduced employee L > productivity (62 percent), reduction in profits (40 percent) and damage toK > customer relationships (38 percent). And only 44 percent use some kind of D > data restoration or backup software for DR purposes, Veritas said. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:02:59 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> J Subject: RE: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters of all sizesR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB45D0F4@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----/ > From: DAVID TURNER [mailto:DAVID@HPAQ.NET]=20 " > Sent: September 18, 2004 6:24 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com B > Subject: Re: Yet another reason to sell packaged VMS clusters=20 > of all sizes >=20F > If anyone here reps a VMS based Application, please forward your URL: > We are redoing our website and would like to create a=20 > one-stop (or one link) > shop > No charge to anyone -  >=20 >=207 > Just leave it as a link or email me at david@hpaq.net  >=20 >=20 > David  >=20   David,  G By applications, do you mean like the following or something different?   H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/os/swroll/index.html (VMS app's by HP)H http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/matrix/solution_cur_a.html (ISV apps etc)   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2004.519 ************************