1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 01 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 181       Contents: Re: apache shutdown failure  Re: Autogen question Re: Big ol' Texas * Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR) Re: Open Vms 8.2 licenses  Re: Possible faulty drive  Sybase+ Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos + Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos - Re: X-windows: changing cursor from and AST ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2005 23:19:57 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: Re: apache shutdown failure, Message-ID: <424c859d$1@NEWS.LANGSTOEGER.AT>  g In article <d2eah4$333$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writes:  >$ @sys$startup:apache$shutdown : >Syntax error on line 5 of /apache$root/conf/mod_php.conf:9 >Can't locate API module structure `php4_module' in file  L >/apache$root/000000/modules/mod_php_apache-2_0.exe: function not implemente > 7 >Using Alpha VMS 7.3-1, Apache 2.0-1, php 4.3.2, mysql. * >Anyone else seen this/know the solution ? > , >@sys$startup:apache$startup restart ! works  J Yup. The PHP logicals are missing. You could define them in SYLOGICALS.COML to get rid of this problem (or invoke the Apache comfile where they reside).   Something like:   ! $	df	= "DEFINE/EXEC/NOLOG/SYSTEM" 8 $	dfc	= "DEFINE/EXEC/NOLOG/SYSTEM/TRANSLATION=CONCEALED"% $	df	PHPSHR		PHP_ROOT:[BIN]PHPSHR.EXE 5 $	dfc	PHP_ROOT	SYS$SYSDEVICE:[VMS$COMMON.APACHE.PHP.]    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:49:58 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  Subject: Re: Autogen question 0 Message-ID: <114orhclc90ia63@corp.supernews.com>   Rob Brown wrote:0 > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 tadamsmar@yahoo.com wrote: >  >> >> Rob Brown wrote:  >>2 >>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 tadamsmar@yahoo.com wrote: >>> G >>>> So, if I don't mind loading the system when I am getting feedback, / >>>> I could do the whole process in two steps:  >>>>4 >>>> @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARMS TESTFILES FEEDBACK >>>> >>>> (Review report) >>>>0 >>>> @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN GETDATA REBOOT FEEDBACK >>>>
 >>>> Correct?  >>>  >>>  >>> I would do this: >>> 7 >>>    @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS TESTFILES FEEDBACK  >>>    (Review report)
 >>>    REBOOT  >> >> >> What do you mean? >>+ >> Just rebooting will do nothing, I think.  >  > / > Oops.  My mistake.  You are right, of course.  > G > I am so used to disconnecting my reboots from autogen that I lost my  F > mind.  If the SETPARAMS phase is executed (as it is when the ending J > phase is SETPARAMS or REBOOT but not TESTFILES) then the new parameters ! > are ready for your next reboot.  > F >>> I see little benefit in recalculating the parameters if I like the( >>> ones that have already been created. >  > K > This statement is pure garbage.  (I can say that because I wrote it.) If  G > you only execute to TESTFILES before you review the report, then you  K > must calculate the parameters again when you execute the SETPARAMS phase.  >  >   B If you get to TESTFILES in the furst run of AUTOGEN, then the new H parameters have been written.  You were right the first time.  A reboot  will use the new parameters.   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2005 10:59:55 -0800# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Big ol' TexasB Message-ID: <1112295595.753061.44860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   Charlie Hammond wrote:; > They say you should never as a man if he is from Texas -- = > If he is HE will tell YOU sooner or later, and if he's not, 7 > there is simply no need to embarrass the poor fellow.  >   D And I've heard it said that Texas is a good place to be FROM. (Heavy emphasis on FROM.) :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:46:05 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 3 Subject: Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR) , Message-ID: <sb6dnVOrT-cs4NHfRVn-gA@igs.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  > John Smith wrote:  > : >> http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/hurd/index.html >> >> BoD9 >> http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/email/bod/index.html  > G > A stupid web form is not the way to build a proper and serious email.     9 So write a letter and send it courier or registered mail.      --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2005 22:59:42 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)" Subject: Re: Open Vms 8.2 licenses, Message-ID: <424c80de$1@NEWS.LANGSTOEGER.AT>  j In article <1112128238.858728.222590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "ugex" <edgar_ulloa@yahoo.com> writes:H >Some one knows if I need a new licences for test ovms 8.2 in itanium or0 >my alpha licenses will be used full for test..?  4 Are you a troll ? Where do you get the Itanic from ?  ! >wich licences I need for test..?   6 For Alpha, you need your alpha PAKs. Just like before.  	 >ovms ..?   K For I64 you need OPENVMS-I64-FOE or OPENVMS-I64-EOE or OPENVMS-I64-MCOE PAK   / For the SPD see http://www.compaq.com/info/SPD/ 7 namely 		http://www.compaq.com/info/XAV12X/XAV12XPF.PDF = and especially	http://www.compaq.com/info/XAV12Z/XAV12ZPF.PDF   	 >tcpip..?   , Included in the FOE and therefore all others   >dvnetend..?  , Included in the FOE and therefore all others   >ovms users..?  > (unlimited Users) Included in the FOE and therefore all others   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:42:08 -0500 & From: Chris <moore.mc@gmailnospam.com>" Subject: Re: Possible faulty drive8 Message-ID: <CgZ2e.4210$x8.871754@news20.bellglobal.com>   issinoho wrote:  > Richard Brodie wrote:  > 9 >> "Jeff Cameron" <roktsci@comcast.net> wrote in message  , >> news:BE70BAB7.A861%roktsci@comcast.net... >> >>J >>>> Port Status               x0000032C  DEVCMDERR - device command error1 >>>> SCSI Command Opcode             x12  Inquiry  >>>> Command Data ( >>>>                                 x00( >>>>                                 x00( >>>>                                 x00( >>>>                                 xFF( >>>>                                 x00 >> >> >>L >>> This section of the SCSI command indicates that the driver is requesting5 >>> what I believe to be device geometry information.  >> >> >>H >> Actually, it's just asking for basic device information. Essentially  >> the same stuff G >> as SHOW DEVICE shows: device type, manufacturer id etc. It must have 7 >> worked (once) to load the disk driver at all though.  >> >>J >>> I'm also confused as to why the command is 5 bytes instead of 4. Most 
 >>> narrow' >>> SCSI commands are two 16 bit words.  >> >> >>L >> 6 bytes is the smallest command size, which this is (including the 0x12). >>I >> I would start looking at the simple things: cabling, termination, bus  	 >> length = >> (and width). There doesn't appear to be a clean data path.  >> >> >> >> > E > It's on the same cable as my existing drive & CD-ROM which are the  K > original kit & work perfectly so I'm thinking that termination & cabling   > are not an issue.   E Remember that each device on the bus extends its effective length --  E often more than you might imagine.  I'd try disconnecting one of the  I other bus devices (like the CD-ROM unless you're booting from it) to see  D if it makes a difference.  I once had an Alpha 1000 that would give I similar messages when the internal CD and all the drives in the internal  H rack were connected - disconnect any one, and the failures would go away  E Might want to make sure the "new" drive doesn't have any jumpers for   self-termination as well.    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2005 18:55:35 -0800 From: rat@bigpond.com  Subject: Sybase C Message-ID: <1112324135.364425.200720@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Hi all,   D A random question about Sybase on VMS.  I've just started doing someC work at a place where they still have Sybase embedded in some COBOL G code.  Now I know that this creature is no longer supported on VMS, and G I'd really like to move them on; the thing is that this code is used to E drag data from a Sybase database on an NT machine (where of course it  Is still supported).  D Has anyone ever been in a similar situation?  Any wisdom/experience?  
 Thanks heaps,    Rat.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:21:13 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 4 Subject: Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos, Message-ID: <424CBE04.CE046D78@teksavvy.com>  D The problem with compensation policies is that the individual has anL incentive to be fired as opposed to leaving on their own. And that is wrong.  H If the individual is penalised for leaving on his own he'll stick around and continue to do damage.  G Consider Palmer.  He quickly realised he wasn't up to teh job, and then G instead of quitting on his won to let someone else take the job, he ran G Digital into the ground based on recommendatiosn from Compaq who wanted  to buy Digital.    The same applies to Capellas.   C If the board feels that the CEO is valuable, then they increase his I compensation to keep him in place instead of having him seek another job.   E If the guy isn't performing, then whatever compaensation he gets when D leaving should be tied to how much he contributed during his tenure.    B If the guy isn't sure he can contribute positively, then he has no business accepting the job.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:29:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 4 Subject: Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos, Message-ID: <424CCDFD.FEB84506@teksavvy.com>   Bill Todd wrote:J > That's just *one* problem with them.  Another comparable one is the lackH > of incentive to perform.  There is no earthly reason to pay even a CEOE > of the largest company any more than a mid-range-6-figure salary or G > sign-on bonus:  everything beyond that (and for the largest companies J > it's entirely reasonable for there to be quite a lot beyond that) shouldC > be *very* closely tied to performance, with well-defined metrics.   $ The problem is defining performance.  H Are you looking at whether the company succeeds in matching or exceedingH Wall Street Casino expextatiosn on a quarter by uqarter basis ?  Are youG looking at stock price ? Are you looking at dividends ? Are you looking  at gross profits ?  E To many, performance seems to be based on whether the company matches C Wall Street Casino analysts' expectation or not. And that is wrong.   D I think that gross profit would be a better metric.  Should a CEO beC penalised because he diverts gross profits into new R&D investments ! instead of declaring a dividend ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:59:04 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 6 Subject: Re: X-windows: changing cursor from and AST ?B Message-ID: <1112299139.a869757ce675b7816430e0ee8e2ee5c9@teranews>   George Cook wrote:2 > Have you looked at the function XtAppAddTimeOut?  E Yes, but the problem is that this XtAppAddTimeout assumes that events  are being processed.  H In my case, if I am in the middle of some time consuming loop that isn'tC broken up into small work procedures because usually this procedure H completes very fast, then the main event loop doesn't get executed sinceC I am still inside a callback. So XtAppAddTimeout would simply queue D events that woudl get executed after the lengthy loop has completed.  H What I need to do is to develop a prototype application where all of theE work is queued and separate threads rtead from the queue, do work and G put stuff back into a "completed queue" which the main pthread picks up @ and uses to update the display.  Thsi way, the main thread woudl@ alremain responsive since it would never do any heavy duty work.  G And because X on VMS is old and not thread safe, I would have to add my H own semaphores whenever a separate thread needs to update an opject used* by X (for instances fill a XmText widget).  G But until then, I need to fidn easy solutions to preventing an app from  becoming unresponsive.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.181 ************************                                                                                                                                        ------------------------------------------------------------ LWW-DECWDISP    Version:      V1.0-<    Description:  Display information similar to SHOW DISPLAY    Author:       Lyle W. 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