1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 03 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 185       Contents:4 Re: Finding The Right Path For Your VMS Applications4 Re: Finding The Right Path For Your VMS Applications? Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) * Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR)* Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR)+ Re: poor disk I/O performance on ds25 ideas  Re: Possible faulty drive  Re: Possible faulty drive  Re: Possible faulty drive  Re: Possible faulty drive * Re: problem with router---NAT and caching?* Re: problem with router---NAT and caching?* Re: problem with router---NAT and caching?* Re: problem with router---NAT and caching? Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted  Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted  Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted  Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted + Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos + Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos < Where can I now purchase consumables for my digital LNCO2???  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2005 22:45:31 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) = Subject: Re: Finding The Right Path For Your VMS Applications 3 Message-ID: <PSLpwb8XxYVX@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <ChvW4ZYQ$3$0@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: k > In article <It2dnZHO6P0R59DfRVn-iA@comcast.com>, Brad Hamilton <brMadAhaPmiSlton@coMmcAasPt.Snet> writes:  >> Dave Froble wrote:  >>> Roy Omond wrote: >>>  >>>> Transoft spouted garbage: >>>  >>>  >>>> *Sigh*. >>>  >>> ( >>> Surely you're aware of today's date? >>  F >> Sorry, www.transoft.com looks legitimate enough to me.  There is a F >> "blinking" navigation link on the left-hand side of the page which 
 >> offers to:  >>  I >> "...help over 400,000 legacy VMS & OpenVMS users worldwide migrate to   >> UNIX and Windows."  >>  & >> Call them today; they can help.	:-) > $ > Have them start with the AST code.  G Someone told me this is a company where IBM bought Accelera8 or Sector7 G and then renamed it.  So presumably they already know that AST handling G is nearly impossible to port.  Perhaps they even have a prepared answer  to the question.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:34:31 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> = Subject: Re: Finding The Right Path For Your VMS Applications B Message-ID: <1112506426.aba7bc7b45f5a2b02ebc61148bfc4b5f@teranews>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:  I > Someone told me this is a company where IBM bought Accelera8 or Sector7 I > and then renamed it.  So presumably they already know that AST handling I > is nearly impossible to port.  Perhaps they even have a prepared answer  > to the question.  E According to the transoft website, they (transsoft) purchased Accelr8 E last year for $700,000 in order to leverage the potential of stealing  VMS customers.  H Accelr8 was a partner/ISV of IBM. Transoft is partners with HP, IBM, SUN and many others.  G (this transoft is different  from Transoft Networks which was purchased B by HP in 1999 and integrated into HP's sotrage products back then.   ------------------------------  " Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 02:55:22 GMTE From: Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla) <john_paul_ii@vatican.va> H Subject: Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. II (Karol Wojtyla)/ Message-ID: <2c733896.5f72310f@news.vatican.va>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  4 --65835481646566667563020871878132336168714311617435* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   B "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and overcome are B  Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.  The idea of every nation @  should be forgot, price should be struck from the commons, and C  princes should be seen for the devils they are.  The sins include  A  our church, secret societies, and other religions which make of    the spirit of God a divide."   ? Last rites declaration of Ioannes Paulus PP. 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II<BR>Karol Wojtyla<BR>16.X.1978<BR>&nbsp;</font></b><br><br>j "The unforgiveable sins this earth must confront and overcome are Nationalism, capitalism, and hoarding.   The idea of every nation should be forgot, price should be struck from the commons, and princes should be seen for the devils they are.   v The sins include our church, secret societies, and other religions which make of the spirit of God a divide." <br><br>i <font face="Charlemagne" size="3"><b>The Holy Father's last rites declaration - 2nd April 2005</b></font>  </td>  </TR>  </TABLE> </HTML>   6 --65835481646566667563020871878132336168714311617435--  , their life was the least philosophic and theK least serious; the most philosophic was to live simply and quietly. If they K wrote on politics, it was as if laying down rules for a lunatic asylum; and F if they presented the appearance of speaking of a great matter, it wasH because they knew that the madmen, to whom they spoke, thought they wereG kings and emperors. They entered into their principles in order to make , their madness as little harmful as possible.  H 332. Tyranny consists in the desire of universal power beyond its scope.  I There are different assemblies of the strong, the fair, the sensible, the I pious, in which each man rules at home, not elsewhere. And sometimes they L meet, and the strong and the fair foolishly fight as to who shall be master,L for their mastery is of different kinds. They do not understand one another,J and their fault is the desire to rule everywhere. Nothing can effect this,J not even might, which is of no use in the kingdom of the wise, and is only mistress of external actions.   G Tyranny--... So these expressions are false and tyrannical: "I am fair, K therefore I must be feared. I am strong, therefore I must be loved. I am...   J Tyranny is the wish to have in one way what can only be had in another. WeD render different duties to different merits; the duty of love to theH pleasant; the duty of fear to the strong; duty of belief to the learned.  I We must render these duties; it is unjust to refuse them, and unjust to a    ------------------------------   Date: 2 Apr 2005 19:24:05 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>3 Subject: Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR) B Message-ID: <1112498645.245897.86020@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   Dave Froble wrote: > JF Mezei wrote:  > > Dave Froble wrote: > >  [...] E > > But it is also important to show what was done wrong about VMS in  the @ > > past so that Hurd 1-fixes the things 2-don't repeat the same	 mistakes.   ( This can be done without bashing anyone.  B > > It isn't a question of stating doom and gloom to Hurd. It is a questionF > > of avoiding doom and gloom in case folks like Winkler and Stallard get  > > to Hurd before we do.     G We have no control over Winkler and Stallard. Bashing won't change that  any.   > > E > > And yes, it is important to discredit Stallard and Winkler. Folks D > > internally will not do that, but as customers, we must tell Hurd how G > > their public statements have hurt HP's credibility when it comes to  its @ > > promises about VMS and how the lack of trust in the vendor's promises is  > > making things worse. > 6 > You have a valid point, which I feel has some merit. > 1 > You still don't get anywhere by bashing others.     B Exactly. And there is no need to bash them. Just explain your caseA without calling anyone and idiot or worse. Concentrate on VMS and G minimize references to Stallard and Winkler. Imagine you're the new CEO G and some unknown writes some letter full of insults. Now just why would E you, as the new CEO, favor such a letter over the words of people you  are working face to face with?  9 A drop of honey gathers more flies than a gallon of gall.   E Richard Nixon: Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be B petty; always remember others may hate you, but those who hate you> don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself.  7 OK, not quite the same situation, but you get the idea.   D Explain how VMS was the killer OS of the 1980s and how it languishedE due to lack of marketing, etc., in the 1990's and 200x's. Explain how 9 well VMS sales responded to the brief 2000 "Renaissance".   D Explain that anyone can make and sell Unix, but only HP has VMS, andC how VMS offers unique and important advantages that no one else can B offer. And that by treating the customer right, there won't be anyG worry about being locked in to one vendor. OK, one has to be careful on  this point, I suppose.  	 Etc. Etc.   # And don't overdo the Alpha routine.     D > A well thought out piece could acknowledge that not everyone is of the F > same mind on issues, such as Operating Systems.  Then go on to point out E > the strengths of VMS, things like the profits vs revenue ratios and F > such, the ongoing maintenance, etc.  Say that all may have strengths and C > weaknesses, but put some weight on margins in addition to volume.     > And security, and logical names, and the best clusters! Metion: DEFCON-9! And mention the new Unix poratablity initiative.    D > I feel that if he cannot be brought to understand that his 'betterD > mousetrap' needs marketing in order for it to best serve him, then we're  > in for more of the same. > B > At the least, it may help to challenge him to review some 'real' numbers E > on the profitability of VMS.  I'm enough of a realist to understand  that< > numbers can be cooked to reflect whatever the cook wishes.    G Well, if VMS is really bringing in good profits like Tom Linden claims, A then imagine the profits if the base were expanded! Not much more ; costs, but a lot more revenue, even if you lower the price!    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:33:55 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> 3 Subject: Re: New HP CEO Announced - Mark Hurd (NCR) 0 Message-ID: <114uvfc6olgbt95@corp.supernews.com>  
 AEF wrote:  I > Well, if VMS is really bringing in good profits like Tom Linden claims, C > then imagine the profits if the base were expanded! Not much more = > costs, but a lot more revenue, even if you lower the price!  >   I Tom's numbers are similar to those stated in 1999, but I think I've read  I that the numbers lately are about half of that.  Hey, what do I know, he   may know something.   H How about when a customer complains about all the costs of dealing with I virus', being able to look him directly and say that you can provide him  E with systems that will not be affected by any virus, trojan, or worm?   I A good sales point would be that the savings in not coping with internet  - problems would more than pay for the systems.   E While our old friend, must have been downsized Andy boy, would go on  F about the lack of applications, VMS as a web server should be able to 4 communicate with systems running those applications.  & Don't know, not running any web stuff.   Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:09:07 -0800 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>4 Subject: Re: poor disk I/O performance on ds25 ideas/ Message-ID: <BE74C883.AC63%roktsci@comcast.net>    On 4/2/05 10:34 AM, in articleA 1112466881.486882.230600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Nitendra" ! <ns_panwar@rediffmail.com> wrote:    > Dear Denny > E > there are three Ultra 160 scsi controller, two are on board and one  > addonPCI card. > H > both harddisks are connected on one of the integrated scsi controller. > A > on other internal scsi controller only one tape drive dat72. is D > connected and third one is not having any deivces connected to it. > I > there is no scsi error, all harddisk are conneted to hotswap case ba610   > shipped along with the system. > F > as far as hardisk model and make is concern i will have to go to the- > server location and will confirm you later.  > 	 > Regards  > I If your file system and/or the files are heavily fragmented, you could be H spending a great deal of unwanted time doing window turns where the fileD lookups of the retrieval pointers have to go to an extension header.  J Another thing to monitor is your file cache. While you are doing your diskL to disk copy monitor your file cache via the MONITOR facility and if you seeI hit percentages less than 85% you may want to increase your corresponding 8 ACP system parameters in MODPARAMS.DAT and then AUTOGEN.  J I'd try these things first, after verifying the condition of your hardware" which it appears you already have.   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 20:09:55 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> " Subject: Re: Possible faulty drive; Message-ID: <1112469009.19861.0@nnrp-t71-02.news.clara.net>    issinoho wrote: J > Just got a real cheap new drive from ebay and am having trouble getting  > her fired up.  > G > Can anyone help me diagnose the problem with this drive. If I try to  + > INIT it I get a simple 'INIT-F-DEVCMDERR'  >  > Is it hosed? >  >  From DIAGNOSE...  > . > Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS, > System Architecture               2. Alpha- > OS version                           V7.3-1 & > Event sequence number          4332.; > Timestamp of occurrence              30-MAR-2005 21:49:53 7 > Time since reboot                    0 Day(s) 0:26:06 , > Host name                            XXXXX > C > System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation  > 3 > Entry Type                        1. Device Error  >  >  > ---- Device Profile ----3 > Unit                                 XXXXX$DKB400 2 > Product Name                         WD91 ULTRA2- > Vendor                               WDIGTL  >  > -- Driver Supplied Info - + > Device Firmware Revision             1.00 ? > VMS SCSI Error Type               3. Send SCSI Command Failed % > SCSI ID                         x04 % > SCSI LUN                        x00 % > SCSI SUBLUN                     x00 G > Port Status               x0000032C  DEVCMDERR - device command error . > SCSI Command Opcode             x12  Inquiry > Command Data% >                                 x00 % >                                 x00 % >                                 x00 % >                                 xFF % >                                 x00  > 9 > SCSI Status                     xFF  No Status Received  >  > ----- Software Info ----- 8 > UCB$x_ERTCNT                     16. Retries Remaining8 > UCB$x_ERTMAX                     16. Retries Allowable- > IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000 - > UCB$x_STS                 x18020110  Online + >                                      Busy H >                                      Volume is Valid on the local nodeK >                                      Unit supports the Extended Function   > bit 6 > IRP$L_PID                 x00010053  Requestor "PID"7 > IRP$x_BOFF                        0. Byte Page Offset ? > IRP$x_BCNT                        0. Transfer Size In Byte(s) 7 > UCB$x_ERRCNT                      5. Errors This Unit 6 > UCB$L_OPCNT                       6. QIO's This Unit1 > ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC ; > UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x1CC54008  Directory Structured 4 >                                      File Oriented/ >                                      Sharable 0 >                                      Available4 >                                      Error Logging0 >                                      Allocated7 >                                      Capable of Input 8 >                                      Capable of Output4 >                                      Random Access >  >  Progress...   I I jumpered the drive to set 'Force SE' on. Now according to Google, this  E   allows newer Ultra2, Wide Ultra2, Ultra160, Ultra160+ or other LVD  G SCSI drives to be forced to use single-ended (SE) operation instead of   low voltage differential (LVD).    Well it worked... well nearly!  F I could now initialise the drive and proceeded to load OpenVMS on it. G All was looking great until on the initial boot it attempted to extend  E the Pagefile. Half-way through the drive started clicking loudly and  I just kept on clicking. VMS went into a Mount Verification loop and I had  < to power off. Retrying resulted in the same thing happening.  F Anyone got any ideas? The drive is a 9.1Gb Ultra2 LVD Western Digital H Vantage (WD91FG) ... or, should I just go for something else from ebay? H What should I be looking for in a SCSI disk to get something compatible?   Many thanks.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:20:35 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: Possible faulty driveB Message-ID: <1112473229.01780d59876b5f49f57467e14e5182fb@teranews>   issinoho wrote: H > All was looking great until on the initial boot it attempted to extendF > the Pagefile. Half-way through the drive started clicking loudly andJ > just kept on clicking. VMS went into a Mount Verification loop and I had> > to power off. Retrying resulted in the same thing happening.    F Not for the faint hearted, but when it starts doing this, try to power> off the DRIVE only, wait a few seconds, and power it back on.   D I had a SCSI-1 drive which would jam upon receiving a SSCI-2 commandE from VMS and powering the drive off and then back on unkjammed it and " the VMS continued to boot happily.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:21:08 -0800* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com>" Subject: Re: Possible faulty drive2 Message-ID: <HaednX2RxYB5tdLfRVn-gg@mpowercom.net>  1 "issinoho" <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote in message  5 news:1112469009.19861.0@nnrp-t71-02.news.clara.net... 3 >> Product Name                         WD91 ULTRA2 . >> Vendor                               WDIGTL > K > I jumpered the drive to set 'Force SE' on. Now according to Google, this  J > allows newer Ultra2, Wide Ultra2, Ultra160, Ultra160+ or other LVD SCSI H > drives to be forced to use single-ended (SE) operation instead of low  > voltage differential (LVD).  >   > Well it worked... well nearly! > K I have a pair of WD91s running in an Alphastation 400 on a wide controller  F (Qlogic ISP1020).  I use then in wide configuration, no force SE.  No H problems under VMS 7.3 (no dash), but the machine isn't used much.  The F mechanical sound is an ominous sign, considering these are fairly old F drives.  Do you have a PC with a wide SCSI you can check the drive on?   Jack Peacock     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 06:06:05 +0200 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>" Subject: Re: Possible faulty drive, Message-ID: <3b98dcF6he7vrU1@individual.net>   issinoho wrote:    > issinoho wrote:  > C >> Just got a real cheap new drive from ebay and am having trouble   >> getting her fired up. >>H >> Can anyone help me diagnose the problem with this drive. If I try to , >> INIT it I get a simple 'INIT-F-DEVCMDERR' >> >> Is it hosed?  >> >>  From DIAGNOSE... >>/ >> Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS - >> System Architecture               2. Alpha . >> OS version                           V7.3-1' >> Event sequence number          4332. < >> Timestamp of occurrence              30-MAR-2005 21:49:538 >> Time since reboot                    0 Day(s) 0:26:06- >> Host name                            XXXXX  >>D >> System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation >>4 >> Entry Type                        1. Device Error >> >> >> ---- Device Profile ---- 4 >> Unit                                 XXXXX$DKB4003 >> Product Name                         WD91 ULTRA2 . >> Vendor                               WDIGTL >> >> -- Driver Supplied Info -, >> Device Firmware Revision             1.00@ >> VMS SCSI Error Type               3. Send SCSI Command Failed& >> SCSI ID                         x04& >> SCSI LUN                        x00& >> SCSI SUBLUN                     x00H >> Port Status               x0000032C  DEVCMDERR - device command error/ >> SCSI Command Opcode             x12  Inquiry  >> Command Data & >>                                 x00& >>                                 x00& >>                                 x00& >>                                 xFF& >>                                 x00 >>: >> SCSI Status                     xFF  No Status Received >> >> ----- Software Info -----9 >> UCB$x_ERTCNT                     16. Retries Remaining 9 >> UCB$x_ERTMAX                     16. Retries Allowable . >> IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000. >> UCB$x_STS                 x18020110  Online, >>                                      BusyI >>                                      Volume is Valid on the local node C >>                                      Unit supports the Extended   >> Function bit 7 >> IRP$L_PID                 x00010053  Requestor "PID" 8 >> IRP$x_BOFF                        0. Byte Page Offset@ >> IRP$x_BCNT                        0. Transfer Size In Byte(s)8 >> UCB$x_ERRCNT                      5. Errors This Unit7 >> UCB$L_OPCNT                       6. QIO's This Unit 2 >> ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC< >> UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x1CC54008  Directory Structured5 >>                                      File Oriented 0 >>                                      Sharable1 >>                                      Available 5 >>                                      Error Logging 1 >>                                      Allocated 8 >>                                      Capable of Input9 >>                                      Capable of Output 5 >>                                      Random Access  >> >>
 > Progress...  > K > I jumpered the drive to set 'Force SE' on. Now according to Google, this  K >  allows newer Ultra2, Wide Ultra2, Ultra160, Ultra160+ or other LVD SCSI  H > drives to be forced to use single-ended (SE) operation instead of low  > voltage differential (LVD).  >   > Well it worked... well nearly! > H > I could now initialise the drive and proceeded to load OpenVMS on it. I > All was looking great until on the initial boot it attempted to extend  G > the Pagefile. Half-way through the drive started clicking loudly and  K > just kept on clicking. VMS went into a Mount Verification loop and I had  > > to power off. Retrying resulted in the same thing happening. >   @ A click or a click-burr? It sounds like a defective drive to me.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 15:15:01 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 3 Subject: Re: problem with router---NAT and caching? B Message-ID: <1112472895.4a9951eb4101a046b9bdefe715703d49@teranews>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: H > However, even an ip arp flush on the router doesn't help.  The problemI > is still there: if I change the IP address on VMS and change the router I > to forward incoming stuff to the new VMS IP address, it doesn't work if J > the MAC address associated with the IP address was previously associated > with another IP address;  E try IP ARP STATUS  to display the current ARP table on the router. If G you do not see the new IP address of your VAX, try IP PING <ip address> I and then IP ARP STATUS and you should see the new IP and its mac address.   H If you don't, you may perhaps suspect your VMS box of not actually using the new IP address.   G Have you tried rebooting the router after you've changed the IP address E of your VMS box ? Go into the router before and after and display its  arp table.    H ARP is a many to one and unidirectional translation.  It only translatesF frm IP to MAC. And you can have multiple IPs pointing to the same MAC.# It never translates from MAC to IP.    ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:07:18 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)3 Subject: Re: problem with router---NAT and caching? $ Message-ID: <d2n1i5$84n$1@online.de>  E In article <1112472895.4a9951eb4101a046b9bdefe715703d49@teranews>, JF - Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:    1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: J > > However, even an ip arp flush on the router doesn't help.  The problemK > > is still there: if I change the IP address on VMS and change the router K > > to forward incoming stuff to the new VMS IP address, it doesn't work if L > > the MAC address associated with the IP address was previously associated > > with another IP address; > E > try IP ARP STATUS  to display the current ARP table on the router.    ! At the moment it looks like this:       TeledatRo> ip arp status K    received 656 badtype 0 bogus addr 0 reqst in 603 replies 13 reqst out 44 -    cache hit 94289 (99%), cache miss 383 (0%) D    IP-addr         Type           Time  Addr              stat ifaceD    192.168.1.202   10 Mb Ethernet 300   08:00:2B:91:AF:9C 41   enif0C    192.168.1.255   10 Mb Ethernet 0     FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF 43   NULL     num of arp entries= 2   which is what I expect.    > IfI > you do not see the new IP address of your VAX, try IP PING <ip address> K > and then IP ARP STATUS and you should see the new IP and its mac address.   F OK, when I try changing the IP address again, I'll see what this does.  J > If you don't, you may perhaps suspect your VMS box of not actually using > the new IP address.   F That's an interesting point.  Is it necessary to stop and start TCPIP G after changing the IP address?  I THINK I have changed them on the fly  G before, but now that you mention it I am not sure.  Of course, after a  E restart it will pick up the address in the on-disk configuration, so  G come to think of it if a restart were necessary, there would be no SET  / INTERFACE command in addition to SET INTERFACE.   I > Have you tried rebooting the router after you've changed the IP address  > of your VMS box ?    Yes.  5 > Go into the router before and after and display its 
 > arp table.    # Didn't check the arp table, though.   J > ARP is a many to one and unidirectional translation.  It only translatesH > frm IP to MAC. And you can have multiple IPs pointing to the same MAC.% > It never translates from MAC to IP.   E That's what I expected, and why I am surprised that it didn't work.   @ Even if it is an arp problem, why does it affect only port 6000?  ; Here's another problem, perhaps unrelated to the one above.   I I'm trying out an old VAX I used to use several years ago.  Yesterday, I  G got it up and running, and everything looked OK.  I plan to do a fresh  E install of 7.3 on it, but I don't know when I'll have the time, so I  F want to get a minimal configuration of it running now.  Last night, I H shut it down.  Today, I booted it up again.  I am now trying to connect H to another machine on the same network.  The entire TCPIP configuration D looks fine on both machines (VAX and ALPHA).  However, on the VAX I H cannot see the ALPHA at all: it says it doesn't respond.  On the ALPHA, F I can't connect to the VAX.  I can connect to its IP address, but for ) some reason the ALPHA connects to itself:o   TCPIP> sh interfaceeB                                                            PacketsI Interface   IP_Addr         Network mask          Receive          Send  r    MTU  I  SE0        192.168.1.202   255.255.255.0         5054635       4549497  h   1500I  LO0        127.0.0.1       255.0.0.0               18233         18233  p      0 TCPIP> ping 192.168.1.220t1 PING 192.168.1.220 (192.168.1.220): 56 data bytesr4 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1 ms4 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1 ms4 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1 ms  Cancel-      % ----192.168.1.220 PING Statistics-----9 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet losso' round-trip (ms)  min/avg/max = 1/1/1 msn
 TCPIP> arp -aP& DSL (192.168.1.2) at 00-a0-c5-22-0b-59 TCPIP>  E A few minutes ago, on the ALPHA there was the following arp entry as n well:e  /    ? (192.168.1.220) at 08-00-2b-92-10-f3 staler  0 This is the correct ethernet address of the VAX.  < Why does the ALPHA connect to itself rather than to the VAX?  F The VAX can connect to anything on the internet, and anything else on G the LAN, just not the ALPHA.  Thus, I suspect that the problem is with  I the ALPHA, especially since it tries to connect to itself when I tell it tI to connect to the address of the VAX.  Specifying a non-existent address t- works as expected, i.e. there is no response.l  G Perhaps at some point the ALPHA had the address the VAX now has, but I nI fail to see where that is stored.  It is not in the arp table, and there  ; is nothing strange in the routing table or the hosts table.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:36:22 -0500 . From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>3 Subject: Re: problem with router---NAT and caching?dB Message-ID: <1112477771.30a44d6f285e33f4fba0a98847877464@teranews>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:<H > OK, when I try changing the IP address again, I'll see what this does.  B How do you change the IP address of your VMS box ?  Do you use theC TCPIP$CONFIG menus, or the TCPIP> Utility ?  Do you destroy the olds  interface with SET NOINTERFACE ?  E Have you used ifcongig -a which displays kernel (live) data to ensureoD that the TCPIP commands actually took effect on the running system ?  A (you can also use ifconfig to set the ip address of an interface)a    E > That's what I expected, and why I am surprised that it didn't work.iB > Even if it is an arp problem, why does it affect only port 6000?  B Are you sure about that ? If you change the IP address of your VMSF systems, then you have to update your router's NAT table to tell it toD forward the required ports to the new IP address. If your VMS box is? still responding to the old IP address and your router is stilluD ofrwarding other ports to the old IP address, tben those ports would still work.i  I > to another machine on the same network.  The entire TCPIP configurationoE > looks fine on both machines (VAX and ALPHA).  However, on the VAX I ; > cannot see the ALPHA at all: it says it doesn't respond. 3  E Have you tried to traceroute to it ? Does it go to the router first ?i  H Does your VAX have a default route pointing to the right ip address (the	 router) ?a  E Are you sure that both VAX and ALPHAs think that they are in the samee( subnet (hence no need to go via router).  H Aoso, at the TCPIP prompt, SHOW ARP seems to be more "VMS" than "arp -a"D which simply spawns a subprocess to execute the foreign arp command.8 Also gives you number of seconds since last interaction.   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:43:56 +0000 (UTC)P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)3 Subject: Re: problem with router---NAT and caching?7$ Message-ID: <d2n77b$e53$1@online.de>  E In article <1112477771.30a44d6f285e33f4fba0a98847877464@teranews>, JFe. Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes:   D > How do you change the IP address of your VMS box ?  Do you use the/ > TCPIP$CONFIG menus, or the TCPIP> Utility ?  g   The latter.n   > Do you destroy the old" > interface with SET NOINTERFACE ?   No.>  G > Have you used ifcongig -a which displays kernel (live) data to ensuredF > that the TCPIP commands actually took effect on the running system ? >iC > (you can also use ifconfig to set the ip address of an interface)p  E I guess this is as good a time as any to learn ifconfig.  (With 5.4, tG which I will move to soon, this is necessary for some things, even for "A some things which in 5.3 are possible over the TCPIP> interface.)   ,G > > That's what I expected, and why I am surprised that it didn't work.nD > > Even if it is an arp problem, why does it affect only port 6000? > D > Are you sure about that ? If you change the IP address of your VMSH > systems, then you have to update your router's NAT table to tell it to4 > forward the required ports to the new IP address.    Yes, of course.a   > If your VMS box isA > still responding to the old IP address and your router is stilloF > ofrwarding other ports to the old IP address, tben those ports would
 > still work.i  " Yes, but that's not the case here.  E After changing the address on the VMS box and the router, I can then vE come in from outside via telnet, ftp etc and everything works fine.  "G Only port 6000 doesn't work.  I can tell the router to forward packets =G to another box on the LAN.  This takes place immediately.  It's only a vG problem with port 6000, and only if I use a new IP address on the same >I machine which previously was the recipient of forwarded packets from the n# router with a different IP address.   K > > to another machine on the same network.  The entire TCPIP configuration"G > > looks fine on both machines (VAX and ALPHA).  However, on the VAX I>= > > cannot see the ALPHA at all: it says it doesn't respond. u > G > Have you tried to traceroute to it ? Does it go to the router first ?h   Yes and no.a  J > Does your VAX have a default route pointing to the right ip address (the > router) ?h   Yes.  G > Are you sure that both VAX and ALPHAs think that they are in the samer* > subnet (hence no need to go via router).   Yes.  ; I restarted TCPIP on the ALPHA, and now connectivity is OK..  G Note that this is V5.0A - ECO 1 on the ALPHA and 4.2 on the VAX.  ThesewD are just some machines I need to get up and running so I can do someC tests etc.  I will then upgrade/fresh install to the newest stuff. .H Thus, small bugs won't surprise me, but really basic stuff which causes  problems does.  J > Aoso, at the TCPIP prompt, SHOW ARP seems to be more "VMS" than "arp -a"F > which simply spawns a subprocess to execute the foreign arp command.: > Also gives you number of seconds since last interaction.  . Thanks; I prefer VMS-style stuff if available!   ------------------------------   Date: 02 Apr 2005 20:13:26 GMT/ From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch>.( Subject: Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted0 Message-ID: <slrnd4tv76.3a9.thierry@MARS.Family>  1 On 2005-04-02, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:aJ > On 01 Apr 2005 16:45:15 GMT, Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch>   > wrote: >/G >> On 2005-03-31, Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE@Flying-Disk.com> wrote:>A >>> Since I like to have remote Internet access to my VMS system,l1 >>> I have my firewall forward SSH packets to it.a >>>i< >>> However, every day or so, I am alerted by the beeping ofB >>> OPCOM messages that someone is making repeated login attempts.< >>> I am not worried about them getting in, but I find their >>> feeble attempts annoying.= >>>t@ >>> I am thinking of creating captive accounts that these script= >>> kiddies would be likely to try (root/<null>, guest/guest,e? >>> god/god, etc.).   The captive procedure should appear to bee? >>> some variant of Unix, appear to sort-of work, while wasting<< >>> as much of their time as possible.   Meanwhile it should@ >>> log everything to a file for my later amusement.   (Yes, I'm >>> that sick!)= >>>e> >>> I seem to recall that someone created such a DCL procedure> >>> years ago, but I can't seem to find it.   Can anyone point? >>> me to something that would give me a start on this project?= >>E >> I started something similar some time ago, in PL/I.  The code is  a >> probably asI >> ugly as hell (I'm happy for feedback) but the result is funny :) (it  p
 >> doesn't >> all work yet, either) >>- >> http://wigwam.ethz.ch/~dussuett/prompt.plia >>
 >> Thierry >rI > Cute.  Now, how are you launching the program or what causes it to run?e  > I have a captive account root/root, with login.com as follows:  # $ DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMANDl $ RUN SYS$LOGIN:PROMPT.EXE $ LOGOUT   And the flags:> Flags:  DefCLI DisWelcome DisNewMail DisMail DisReport Captive  7 (Haven't found out how to replace the CLI itself (yet))a   Thierryt   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 23:31:41 +0000 (UTC)7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney):( Subject: Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted( Message-ID: <d2na0t$rf8$1@pcls4.std.com>  1 Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch> writes:;  ? >I have a captive account root/root, with login.com as follows:w  $ >$ DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMAND >$ RUN SYS$LOGIN:PROMPT.EXEh	 >$ LOGOUT0   >And the flags:g? >Flags:  DefCLI DisWelcome DisNewMail DisMail DisReport Captivei  8 >(Haven't found out how to replace the CLI itself (yet))   What does PROMPT.EXE do? -- R -Mike    ------------------------------   Date: 02 Apr 2005 23:39:18 GMT/ From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch>>( Subject: Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted0 Message-ID: <slrnd4ub96.3a9.thierry@MARS.Family>  G On 2005-04-02, Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:e3 > Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch> writes:f >t@ >>I have a captive account root/root, with login.com as follows: >,% >>$ DEFINE/USER SYS$INPUT SYS$COMMANDs >>$ RUN SYS$LOGIN:PROMPT.EXE
 >>$ LOGOUT >" >>And the flags:@ >>Flags:  DefCLI DisWelcome DisNewMail DisMail DisReport Captive >/9 >>(Haven't found out how to replace the CLI itself (yet))5 >6 > What does PROMPT.EXE do?  G It simulates a root shell (accepts a (now small) subset of commands andeO displays fake answers) -- it was just to show that it's not really difficult to  create a "honey pot"   Thierry    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 06:13:27 +0200a& From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>( Subject: Re: Script Kiddie tarpit wanted, Message-ID: <3b98r7F6eaficU1@individual.net>   Thierry Dussuet wrote:  > from a lugs.ch address! (That's Linux User Group Switzerland).  
 Ooooh. :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:29:46 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>e4 Subject: Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaosB Message-ID: <1112480982.fe14732f60b3c83e4ef13655d375acf5@teranews>  
 "Doc." wrote: M > This is probably the most insightful thing you've posted in years, JF.  CanrA > we drop the inflammatory stuff and other non-intelligent items?e  G Thank you for the tiny compliment followed by a huge insult. Please putoC me back in your kill file. I don't make personal attacks and insult-# other poster's intelligence levels.n   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:53:55 -0500o' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>s4 Subject: Re: There is certainly opportunity in chaos0 Message-ID: <114v0kuhbc039fb@corp.supernews.com>   John Vottero wrote: 8 > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in message 9 > news:4I-dncIoP5MrWtHfRVn-qA@metrocastcablevision.com...s >  >>JF Mezei wrote:  >>G >>>The problem with compensation policies is that the individual has an0< >>>incentive to be fired as opposed to leaving on their own. >>K >>That's just *one* problem with them.  Another comparable one is the lack 2L >>of incentive to perform.  There is no earthly reason to pay even a CEO of K >>the largest company any more than a mid-range-6-figure salary or sign-on eE >>bonus:  everything beyond that (and for the largest companies it's dI >>entirely reasonable for there to be quite a lot beyond that) should be .@ >>*very* closely tied to performance, with well-defined metrics. >> >  > K > The problem with that is it encourages a short term mentality.   The CEO eL > looks at everything through the prism of their well-defined metrics.  How 9 > can basic research survive in an environment like that?i > N > In the best run companies, the CEO has the freedom to do whatever they want N > and they do it because they want to, not because they're going to get a big  > bonus. >  >  >   I Going afield some consider another example.  Some years ago Chrysler was iI in trouble.  Lee Iacocoa (probably misspelled) came in from Ford, partly lF because he didn't get the head job there, to turn things around.  For E his salary, he asked for $1 a year, until Chrysler became profitable.   G He was up to the challenge, and in later years got paid the big bucks. aG I'd say he earned it.  The point is, in the past, CEOs weren't offered rH the golden parachutes we see today, and they still took the jobs.  They C also accepted the challenges.  How have we ever arrived at today's d
 practices?   Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:04:44 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGE Subject: Where can I now purchase consumables for my digital LNCO2???e0 Message-ID: <00A41B15.629FA7AD@SendSpamHere.ORG>   Subject says it all?   -- mK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" h   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.185 ************************well VMS sales responded to the brief 2000 "Renaissance".   D Explain that anyone can make and sell Unix, but only HP has VMS, andC how VMS offers unique and impo
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