1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 11 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 201       Contents:5 Re: Frustration!  EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1? 5 Re: Frustration!  EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1? 4 Re: Frustration! EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1?! Re: Quintara web-mail for OpenVMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:37:35 -0700 - From: Jake Hamby <jhamby IS AT pobox DOT com> > Subject: Re: Frustration!  EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1?8 Message-ID: <bnlg51p9t6ps5cn0o5sp21musvfq8mrkt0@4ax.com>  ? As a followup to my original post, the problem *was* a firmware E issue... in the CD-ROM drive!  I'm using a Toshiba XM-3801 SCSI drive D made in 1997, and apparently the firmware in there was buggy becauseD it was giving me all sorts of strange errors when reading files fromE the CD-ROM when I tried to install VMS 7.2-2.  Fortunately, I found a A firmware update for it (search for "xm3801up.zip"), found a PC to D install it from (I used the IBM/Hitachi Drive Fitness Test disk as aB boot floppy which had the ASPI drivers required for the DOS updateD program), and amazingly, OpenVMS 7.3-1 is now up and running.  Plus,? my $4.95 video card runs DECwindows as well as can be expected.   D I have a new question:  when my "new" Alpha workstation arrives fromE the eBay seller, will I be able to simply swap the hard drive into it A and boot, or do I have to reinstall the OS?  Does OpenVMS install D different versions of any images for the EV5 vs. the EV45?  Will theD completely different h/w configuration confuse it or will the kernelE automatically detect the changes and load the correct device drivers?    -Jake    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:28:08 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)> Subject: Re: Frustration!  EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1?; Message-ID: <4258c778.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   . Jake Hamby <jhamby IS AT pobox DOT com> wrote:. > when my "new" Alpha workstation arrives fromG > the eBay seller, will I be able to simply swap the hard drive into it C > and boot, or do I have to reinstall the OS?  Does OpenVMS install < > different versions of any images for the EV5 vs. the EV45?   See the other posts.   >  Will the F > completely different h/w configuration confuse it or will the kernelG > automatically detect the changes and load the correct device drivers?   I The only issue I've run into is that you might have to re-run the network H configuration (DECnet and TCP/IP) if your new system's network cards useF a different driver than the old one (e.g. the template device is named EIA0 vs. EWA0).    cu,    Martin --  ;   OpenVMS DCL        | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules! .                      | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deA   The Original .COM  |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ 5                      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 02:51:34 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) = Subject: Re: Frustration! EB64+ too old to run OpenVMS 7.3-1? ( Message-ID: <d3a4bl$ms9$1@pcls4.std.com>  / Jake Hamby <jhamby IS AT pobox DOT com> writes:   E >I have a new question:  when my "new" Alpha workstation arrives from F >the eBay seller, will I be able to simply swap the hard drive into it, >and boot, or do I have to reinstall the OS?  2 It should boot fine, with two possible exceptions:  J 1) Your 'new' system really is new, and the VMS version is old, old enough& that it doesn't know of the new model.  A 2) The configurations are radically different, enough so the old  H configuration's AUTOGENed parameters won't allow the new system to boot.H For example, I wouldn't expect a system disk from a GS1280 to boot on anH Alphastation 200.  If you run into this, do this: >>> b -fl x,1 (where xE is a number (probably 0) specifying which root to boot from.   At the G SYSBOOT> prompt enter USE DEFAULT.  You may want to do this regardless. F Run AUTOGEN once booted.  Run AUTOGEN regardless of whether you had to do the SYSBOOT default thing.    >  Does OpenVMS install E >different versions of any images for the EV5 vs. the EV45?  Will the E >completely different h/w configuration confuse it or will the kernel F >automatically detect the changes and load the correct device drivers?  D No, and no.  See above about wildly mismatched autogenned parameters confusing matters. --   -Mike    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Apr 2005 17:53:51 -0700  From: bob@instantwhip.com * Subject: Re: Quintara web-mail for OpenVMSB Message-ID: <1113094431.592577.28500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>  @ that version of Purveyor is not the last release ... they should? upgrade to 2.1 ... Process software still has it ... we have no  problems with 2.1 ...    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.201 ************************