1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 18 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 215       Contents: Compiler bug check8 Re: Converting SQL services config files from 7.0 to 7.1P Do You Want To Know For Sure That You Are Going To Heaven? The reason some peopl
 Login mystery $ Re: Operating System Security Survey; Re: [OpenVMS] What do you expect from DIR/SIZ=(ALLO,USED) ?  [OT]: Free Linux?  Hardly. Re: [OT]: Free Linux?  Hardly.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:39:07 GMT % From: "PAUL DEMBRY" <pade@trifox.com>  Subject: Compiler bug check + Message-ID: <LRG8e.18025$ox3.8549@trnddc03>   5 I'm getting a C compiler bug check and all it says is   < %VCG-F-BUGCHECK, Compiler bug check during middle end phase.9                 Submit an SPR with a problem description. /                 At line number 2536 in y.tab.c.   K What confuses me is that this source code compiled a few months ago and has L not been touched at all (it's a RCS checkout of an old version of our code).I Can anyone give me some clues as to what "middle end phase" means? I have K /noopt set and according to the listing, line 2536 is that last line of the L source file. This is on VAX OpenVMS 6.1. I have enough disk space so that is not the problem. Thanks,  Paul   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Apr 2005 20:02:58 -0700+ From: "nutznbolz" <anirban.maiti@gmail.com> A Subject: Re: Converting SQL services config files from 7.0 to 7.1 C Message-ID: <1113789899.681110.233950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   	 Hi Kalle,   C I do not have many entries in the file. I even tried creating a new F config file for v7 with a single service and then tried converting the same, but with no effect.    I am stuck very badly here :-(   Rgds   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Apr 2005 11:33:58 -0700 From: RonGrossi382670@yahoo.com Y Subject: Do You Want To Know For Sure That You Are Going To Heaven? The reason some peopl C Message-ID: <1113762838.199219.215760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   * The reason some people don't know for sure) if they are going to Heaven when they die   is because they just don't know.  & The good news is that you can know for* sure that you are going to Heaven which is* described in the Holy Bible as a beautiful( place with no death, sorrow, sickness or pain.   ) God tells us in the Holy Bible how simple % it is to be saved so that we can live  forever with Him in Heaven.   ) "For if you confess with your mouth Jesus * is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you  WILL BE SAVED." (Romans 10:9)   ( Over 2000 years ago God came from Heaven) to earth in the person of Jesus Christ to ( shed His blood and die on a cross to pay our sin debt in full.    Jesus Christ was born in Israel ' supernaturally to a virgin Jewish woman ' named Mary and lived a sinless life for  thirty-three years.   $ At the age of thirty-three Jesus was* scourged and had a crown of thorns pressed' onto His head then Jesus was crucified.   * Three days after Jesus died on a cross and) was placed in a grave Jesus rose from the & dead as Jesus said would happen before Jesus died.   ( If someone tells you that they are going* to die and in three days come back to life* again and it happens then this person must be the real deal.   ) Jesus Christ is the only person that ever  lived a perfect sinless life.   & This is why Jesus is able to cover our) sins(misdeeds) with His own blood because  Jesus is sinless.   & The Holy Bible says, "In Him(Jesus) we& have redemption through His blood, the' forgiveness of sins..." (Ephesians 1:7)   ' If you would like God to forgive you of ' your past, present and future sins just $ ask Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Saviour.  ( It doesn't matter how old you are or how% many bad things that you have done in & your life including lying and stealing all the way up to murder.   $ Just pray the prayer below with your% mouth and mean it from your heart and  God will hear you and save you.   ( Dear Jesus Christ, I want to be saved so) that I can have a home in Heaven with You ( when I die. I agree with You that I am a+ sinner. I believe that You love me and want ' to save me. I believe that You bled and + died on the cross to pay the penalty for my % sins and that You rose from the dead. ' Please forgive my sins and come into my ( heart and be my Lord and Saviour. Thanks& Lord Jesus Christ for forgiving me and& saving me through Your merciful grace. Amen.   ( Welcome to the family of God if you just+ allowed God to save you. Now you are a real ( Christian and you can know for sure that) you will live in Heaven forever when this  life comes to an end.   ! As a child of God we are to avoid & sin(wrongdoing), but if you do sin the% Holy Bible says, "My dear children, I + write this to you so that you will not sin. ( But if anybody does sin, we have one who) speaks to the Father in our defense Jesus  Christ, the Righteous One."   ) Those of you that have not yet decided to ) place your trust in the Lord Jesus Christ % may never get another chance to do so * because you do not know when you will die.  ' Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and   the life: no one can come to the Father(in Heaven), but by me." (John 14:6)   " This means that if you die without) trusting in Jesus Christ as your Lord and * Saviour you will be forever separated from' the love of God in a place called Hell.   * The Holy Bible descibes Hell as a place of* eternal torment, suffering, pain and agony- for all those who have rejected Jesus Christ.   + The good news is that you can avoid Hell by ( allowing Jesus Christ to save you today.* Only then will you have true peace in your, life knowing that no matter what happens you are on your way to Heaven.     Praise the Lord!  Servant of the Lord Jesus Christ Ronald L. Grossi  ( *Show this to your family and friends so% they can know that they have a choice ' where they will spend eternity. Thanks!   4 ____________________________________________________       Got Questions?( http://www.gotquestions.org/archive.html   Other Languages ' http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps.html    Free Movie: To Hell and Back% http://www.tbn.org/index.php/8/1.html   	 Animation % http://www.browser.to/jesus-animation    The Passion Of The Christ $ http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com   Beware Of Cults & http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm  
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 Is Jesus God? 0 http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html   Free Online Bible  http://www.bibledatabase.net    4 ____________________________________________________   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:41:13 GMT % From: "PAUL DEMBRY" <pade@trifox.com>  Subject: Login mystery+ Message-ID: <JTG8e.32722$hB6.7689@trnddc06>   G While trying to discover the compiler bug check problem, I thought that K perhaps my account (suddenly) doesn't have high enough quotas. However when J I run authorize, I cannot even find my user id! I did list * and looked atG the listing and there is no entry for my user id. How is this possible? $ Again this is on OpenVMS 6.1 on VAX. Thanks,  Paul   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Apr 2005 20:10:13 -0700% From: "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com> - Subject: Re: Operating System Security Survey C Message-ID: <1113793813.818249.138160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Mitch Wagner wrote:    > A > Doc, are you interested in writing either one of those stories?   ( those are both cool subjects for stories   mk5000   "Nursing Director approachesA family about Grandma's "stories" during her stay at the facility. < Seems she is telling tales about how to make condoms and had@ appropriated fruit from breakfast for demonstrations! Should the1 doctor be contacted to "up" her medication?"--liz    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:58:47 -0400 $ From: "Chris" <an.other@not_here.ca>D Subject: Re: [OpenVMS] What do you expect from DIR/SIZ=(ALLO,USED) ?8 Message-ID: <GvE8e.426$Jg5.151057@news20.bellglobal.com>  K Sorry, hadn't intended to imply causality, only results.  But thanks anyway   C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in message & news:4260c7bd$1@NEWS.LANGSTOEGER.AT...I > In article <2IY7e.6657$MZ2.959383@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Chris Moore" 2 <paynoattentionto@themanbehindthe.curtain> writes:L > >Tried this on systems from 7.1 thru 7.3-1 (some VAX, some Alpha), got the > >same result in each case. > > G > >Directory listing used the last parameter of the /SIZE list ==> i.e.  answer > >#3  > I > It is answer #3, but not for the reason, that USED is last in the list. . > Even if it is first in the list, it is USED. >  > So, try again ;-)  >  > --   > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER ' > Network and OpenVMS system specialist  > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:30:02 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> # Subject: [OT]: Free Linux?  Hardly. , Message-ID: <gPSdnXNULbN1kP7fRVn-1A@igs.net>   Pssst... Free Linux! Only $799!    Thu Apr 14, 2:49 PM ET Business - NewsFactor      Paul Murphy, www.cio-today.com  J How free is Linux? If your application vendor only supports one of the RedL Hat enterprise editions and this obligates you to pay at least $799 for yourH first year, is it still free? More directly, under what circumstances isB Linux at $1,295 free with your order for an IBM  OpenPower eServer
 9174-720E?  G In theory, of course, the answer is that you're not licensing Linux; in J fact, you're not even getting an IBM operating system. You're getting a "1J year standard subscription and support license" from Red Hat, which you're- then entitled to install on that IBM machine.   L Similarly, the theory says you're free to buy that IBM box without an OS andC roll your own Linux for it. In practice, of course, there are a few L impediments -- ranging from high skill requirements to foregoing applicationC certification and accepting the performance hit that comes from the I incompatibilities between the Power5 and other PowerPC derivititives like  the G5.   F In other words, you can do this, but a business would need hundreds ofI copies to break even, and you'd better plan on being long gone before the 9 next round of hardware and software upgrades comes along.        Rolling Your Own Installations  K Now you might think that someone who needs a number of these machines could L buy a support contract for the one used as a preproduction test bed and justD roll out unsupported copies to all the others, but IBM has a helpfulH footnote on it's pricing page for 720 Linux that puts the kibosh on that idea:   F The Red Hat license agreement defines the RHEL AS 3 charge unit as perL install, meaning that a license is required for each server or LPAR on which RHEL AS 3 is installed.   I In my opinion, therefore, the impracticalities combine with the licensing K requirement to render both the ability to roll your own and the traditional K right to install multiple copies from the same CD every bit as fictional as G Red Hat's claim that they sell support with a free license instead of a  license with free support.       Of Third-Party Licenses   J It's easy to understand how and why Red Hat's reality reversal circumventsH the GPL and related open-source licenses they work under; but why are so  many people willing to go along?  G Of course it's not just Red Hat; it's IBM too. It's an IBM machine, but L there's no IBM Linux distribution to go with it. Here's how one of IBM's keyG project managers for the official IBM System 390 Linux port, Karl-Heinz I Strassemeyer, justified that in an interview with Ole Tange almost a year = before SCO asked a court to lift IBM's AT&T licenses for AIX:   L Most recently we wanted to make good use of Linux, because we wanted to shipI some hardware where we said we would put a little operating system kernel G into the hardware. This should enable us to do the initial program load L specifically of Linux on top it of the small kernel. Flexible from differentH targets -- CD-ROM, network or whatever. The first idea to take Linux wasH abandoned. We didn't want to do a distribution, because we didn't want aL patent infringement being detected. If somebody would have taken us to court/ we might have had to stop shipping our product.   I In other words, IBM wants you to license Linux from a third party because 4 IBM doesn't want to be sued for patent infringement.       What's the Contract Worth?  I Poke at this a bit more, and it gets worse. For example, I don't buy from J companies that don't stand behind their products, but I'm not sure whether" IBM stands behind this one or not.  H Clearly, they don't in the sense that they want to limit their own legalJ exposure by having you deal with Red Hat, but ask them to help you get theG thing working and you'll find them happy to help -- although their work 5 won't be covered under your Red Hat support contract.   F You might reasonably ask, therefore, what that contract is worth if itH doesn't cover the help you need? At best, I think it's possible to argueH that the first contract you buy of this type gives your people a form of! privileged access to information.   I If, however, you buy five machines, and therefore find yourself forced to L pick up the support "option" five times, how do you justify the value of the other four?   I After all, if we're pretending the money doesn't buy a Linux license, why 7 give Red Hat another $5,180 for rights we already have?       $ Pricing Structures and Other Choices  K In my opinion this whole pricing structure is a con and every time somebody K buys into it, the entire open-source movement is weakened just a little bit L more. Let it go on long enough, and the whole idea of free software could be looted into oblivion.   L To help stop it, simply refuse to play. Just say "no" to vendors who requireJ you to pay for Linux support in lieu of a Linux license. Make it a companyL policy: Vendors either back a genuinely free Linux distribution like Debian,G Gentoo or Fedora, or they don't do business with you. And if that means H passing up a bargain like that IBM 720E -- well, think of it as a Trojan) horse and remember what happened to Troy.   L Remember too, that there are always other choices. It's true that at $23,549J (plus $1,295 for Linux), a dual processor (four-core) 8-GB system from IBM looks like a bargain.   L But you could cough up the extra $4,750 or so it takes to get the equivalentL pSeries 550 with AIX or shave a few bucks off the top and get a Sun 440 withJ Solaris 10 preinstalled, a range of genuinely optional support options andK no moral dilemmas or legal gotchas hiding in the relationships you get into  when you buy the thing.       I Paul Murphy, a CIO Today columnist, wrote and published The Unix Guide to L Defenestration. Murphy is a 20-year veteran of the I.T. consulting industry,8 specializing in Unix and Unix-related management issues.       --? OpenVMS - The best unadvertised operating system on the planet.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:41:33 -0700  From: Z <Z@no.spam> ' Subject: Re: [OT]: Free Linux?  Hardly. * Message-ID: <x7F8e.9886$c42.4043@fe07.lga>   John Smith wrote: N > Similarly, the theory says you're free to buy that IBM box without an OS andE > roll your own Linux for it. In practice, of course, there are a few   % Why roll your own?  Put CentOS on it.   ? It's pretty much Red Hat w/o the Enterprise-level tech support.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.215 ************************                                                      چ┐	狍
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