1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 20 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 219       Contents: Re: Compiler bug check Re: DECwindows: pointer policyP Do You Want To Know For Sure That You Are Going To Heaven? The reason some peopl) Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines ) Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines ) Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines ) Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines  Re: FA: VMS SW kits. Re: FA: VMS SW kits. Re: FA: VMS SW kits. FTP GUI , Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ?, Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ?, Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ?, Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ? Re: Login mystery  Re: Login mystery  Re: NIC cards supported 	 thank you   Re: two questions about MINICOPY  Re: two questions about MINICOPY  Re: two questions about MINICOPY  Re: two questions about MINICOPY  Re: two questions about MINICOPY  Re: two questions about MINICOPYP Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP or LANCP boot dataP Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP or LANCP boot data Re: VMS to OS X file sharing Re: [OMSAIS] Silly question ?  RE: [OMSAIS] Silly question ?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:16:11 -0700 , From: "Paul Dembry" <pade@nospam.trifox.com> Subject: Re: Compiler bug check 1 Message-ID: <O4KdnS7ph_nR6PjfRVn-pg@megapath.net>   H I worked around the problem by using a VAX version of YACC to create theJ file. It's all very strange because the file (yacc output) used to compileK using the output of a Unix YACC. I'm going to compare the files to see what 
 is different.  Thanks,  Paul   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:47:29 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>' Subject: Re: DECwindows: pointer policy + Message-ID: <d43n8h$jf4$1@news01.intel.com>   
 AEF wrote: [...] E > Sounds like you're talking about two different things. If the focus F > moves to the window where you're reading stuff, how are you going to > type in the other window?!        Easily.  H      Oh, you want to know how?  Two overlapping windows.  You're readingD or selecting text in the window on top, then you move the pointer toB the partially hidden window underneath and type or paste.  The topF window stays on top, but focus moves with the pointer to the partiallyE hidden window.  You're typing or pasting semi-blind, but it is _very_ D efficient under certain circumstances (which I encounter every day).   	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 13:28:15 -0700 From: RonGrossi382703@yahoo.com Y Subject: Do You Want To Know For Sure That You Are Going To Heaven? The reason some peopl C Message-ID: <1113942495.497456.163660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   * The reason some people don't know for sure) if they are going to Heaven when they die   is because they just don't know.  & The good news is that you can know for* sure that you are going to Heaven which is* described in the Holy Bible as a beautiful( place with no death, sorrow, sickness or pain.   ) God tells us in the Holy Bible how simple % it is to be saved so that we can live  forever with Him in Heaven.   ) "For if you confess with your mouth Jesus * is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you  WILL BE SAVED." (Romans 10:9)   ( Over 2000 years ago God came from Heaven) to earth in the person of Jesus Christ to ( shed His blood and die on a cross to pay our sin debt in full.    Jesus Christ was born in Israel ' supernaturally to a virgin Jewish woman ' named Mary and lived a sinless life for  thirty-three years.   $ At the age of thirty-three Jesus was* scourged and had a crown of thorns pressed' onto His head then Jesus was crucified.   * Three days after Jesus died on a cross and) was placed in a grave Jesus rose from the & dead as Jesus said would happen before Jesus died.   ( If someone tells you that they are going* to die and in three days come back to life* again and it happens then this person must be the real deal.   ) Jesus Christ is the only person that ever  lived a perfect sinless life.   & This is why Jesus is able to cover our) sins(misdeeds) with His own blood because  Jesus is sinless.   & The Holy Bible says, "In Him(Jesus) we& have redemption through His blood, the' forgiveness of sins..." (Ephesians 1:7)   ' If you would like God to forgive you of ' your past, present and future sins just $ ask Jesus Christ to be your Lord and Saviour.  ( It doesn't matter how old you are or how% many bad things that you have done in & your life including lying and stealing all the way up to murder.   $ Just pray the prayer below with your% mouth and mean it from your heart and  God will hear you and save you.   ( Dear Jesus Christ, I want to be saved so) that I can have a home in Heaven with You ( when I die. I agree with You that I am a+ sinner. I believe that You love me and want ' to save me. I believe that You bled and + died on the cross to pay the penalty for my % sins and that You rose from the dead. ' Please forgive my sins and come into my ( heart and be my Lord and Saviour. Thanks& Lord Jesus Christ for forgiving me and& saving me through Your merciful grace. Amen.   ( Welcome to the family of God if you just+ allowed God to save you. Now you are a real ( Christian and you can know for sure that) you will live in Heaven forever when this  life comes to an end.   ! As a child of God we are to avoid & sin(wrongdoing), but if you do sin the% Holy Bible says, "My dear children, I + write this to you so that you will not sin. ( But if anybody does sin, we have one who) speaks to the Father in our defense Jesus  Christ, the Righteous One."   ) Those of you that have not yet decided to ) place your trust in the Lord Jesus Christ % may never get another chance to do so * because you do not know when you will die.  ' Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and   the life: no one can come to the# Father(God)(in Heaven), but by me."  (John 14:6)   " This means that if you die without) trusting in Jesus Christ as your Lord and * Saviour you will be forever separated from' the love of God in a place called Hell.   * The Holy Bible descibes Hell as a place of* eternal torment, suffering, pain and agony- for all those who have rejected Jesus Christ.   + The good news is that you can avoid Hell by ( allowing Jesus Christ to save you today.* Only then will you have true peace in your, life knowing that no matter what happens you are on your way to Heaven.     Praise the Lord!  Servant of the Lord Jesus Christ Ronald L. Grossi  ( *Show this to your family and friends so% they can know that they have a choice ' where they will spend eternity. Thanks!   4 ____________________________________________________       Got Questions?( http://www.gotquestions.org/archive.html   Other Languages ' http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps.html    Free Movie: To Hell and Back% http://www.tbn.org/index.php/8/1.html   	 Animation % http://www.browser.to/jesus-animation    The Passion Of The Christ $ http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com   Beware Of Cults & http://www.carm.org/cults/cultlist.htm  
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 Is Jesus God? 0 http://www.powertochange.com/questions/qna2.html   Free Online Bible  http://www.biblegateway.com     4 ____________________________________________________   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:20:11 +0200 - From: Alex van Denzel <vandenzel@hotmail.com> 2 Subject: Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines7 Message-ID: <426567fb$0$44340$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>    Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote:  + > John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com wrote:  > G >> I need to expand the number of directly connected serial lines on my < >> MicroVAX3100. I understand I need the following hardware: >>- >>   DHW42-AA - Provides eight DEC-423 lines. F >>   DEC-423 I/O assembly, external 36-pin BC16C-10 3-m (10-ft) cable.0 >>   H3104-00 eight-line distribution harmonica. >>   >>B > You would probably have a lot more success with using LAT and a . > DECserver than finding old gear like that... >  > Barry  >   H If your MicroVAX already has a 36pins centronics port, this will not be * the printerport, but the 8x serial output.  C Then build your own cable using an old 36-pin centronics plug (old  6 parallel printercable), and a bundle of serial cables.   -- Alex.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:45:45 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 2 Subject: Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines( Message-ID: <opsph6yjpgzgicya@hyrrokkin>  J On 19 Apr 2005 10:27:06 -0700, <John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com> wrote:  F > I need to expand the number of directly connected serial lines on my; > MicroVAX3100. I understand I need the following hardware:  > - >    DHW42-AA - Provides eight DEC-423 lines. F >    DEC-423 I/O assembly, external 36-pin BC16C-10 3-m (10-ft) cable.0 >    H3104-00 eight-line distribution harmonica. > B > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain the above bits and pieces. >    You might try Nmemonix   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:56:18 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>2 Subject: Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines/ Message-ID: <BE8AF6C2.C3AF%roktsci@comcast.net>    On 4/19/05 10:27 AM, in article 6 1113931626.039103.303450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,I "John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com" <John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com>  wrote:  F > I need to expand the number of directly connected serial lines on my; > MicroVAX3100. I understand I need the following hardware:  > - >    DHW42-AA - Provides eight DEC-423 lines. F >    DEC-423 I/O assembly, external 36-pin BC16C-10 3-m (10-ft) cable.0 >    H3104-00 eight-line distribution harmonica. > B > Can anyone tell me where I can obtain the above bits and pieces. > I While I think that getting a DecServer and using LAT is much cleaner, you = might be able to find that hardware at Great Lakes Computers:  http://www.glcomp.com/   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:36:39 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>2 Subject: Re: Expanding MicroVAX3100 Terminal Lines+ Message-ID: <4265C037.66F84BBB@comcast.net>    Alex van Denzel wrote: >  > Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote: > - > > John.Martin_At_Home@BTInternet.com wrote:  > > I > >> I need to expand the number of directly connected serial lines on my > > >> MicroVAX3100. I understand I need the following hardware: > >>/ > >>   DHW42-AA - Provides eight DEC-423 lines. H > >>   DEC-423 I/O assembly, external 36-pin BC16C-10 3-m (10-ft) cable.2 > >>   H3104-00 eight-line distribution harmonica. > >> > >>C > > You would probably have a lot more success with using LAT and a 0 > > DECserver than finding old gear like that... > > 	 > > Barry  > >  > I > If your MicroVAX already has a 36pins centronics port, this will not be , > the printerport, but the 8x serial output. > D > Then build your own cable using an old 36-pin centronics plug (old8 > parallel printercable), and a bundle of serial cables.  G I recall seeing the pinout for that either here or in comp.sys.dec. Not + sure which, and I'm not on Google just now.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 12:45:17 -0700/ From: "Martin Walker" <martin.walker@csf.co.uk>  Subject: Re: FA: VMS SW kits. C Message-ID: <1113939917.424975.236340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   G As a Compaq (now HP) reseller, we enquired specifically about this some @ years ago.  The response was the "rule is that a Media kit/s areE bounded by the legal entity that bought them. They can not be used to % update software for other companies."   D So my (our) take is that we cannot give or lend software kits to ourE customers (or anyone else).  The only exceptions are where either the G customers' own copy has not arrived yet (i.e. it's on order) or where a ? customer holds the latest kit and needs an older version of the  software than HP can provide.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 12:46:30 -0700/ From: "Martin Walker" <martin.walker@csf.co.uk>  Subject: Re: FA: VMS SW kits. C Message-ID: <1113939990.667781.196440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   G As a Compaq (now HP) reseller, we enquired specifically about this some @ years ago.  The response was the "rule is that a Media kit/s areE bounded by the legal entity that bought them. They can not be used to % update software for other companies."   D So my (our) take is that we cannot give or lend software kits to ourE customers (or anyone else).  The only exceptions are where either the G customers' own copy has not arrived yet (i.e. it's on order) or where a ? customer holds the latest kit and needs an older version of the  software than HP can provide.    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:07:48 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: FA: VMS SW kits. $ Message-ID: <d44o34$l05$2@online.de>  C In article <1113939917.424975.236340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, 2 "Martin Walker" <martin.walker@csf.co.uk> writes:   I > As a Compaq (now HP) reseller, we enquired specifically about this some B > years ago.  The response was the "rule is that a Media kit/s areG > bounded by the legal entity that bought them. They can not be used to ' > update software for other companies."  > F > So my (our) take is that we cannot give or lend software kits to ourG > customers (or anyone else).  The only exceptions are where either the I > customers' own copy has not arrived yet (i.e. it's on order) or where a A > customer holds the latest kit and needs an older version of the  > software than HP can provide.   I I think it has been stated here semi-officially though that it is OK for  G a HOBBYIST to borrow media for an installation.  Presumably, hobbyists  " are not a large source of revenue.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:52:43 -0400 + From: "stinehelferw" <stinehelferw@cox.net>  Subject: FTP GUI* Message-ID: <_tj9e.9757$gV.210@lakeread02>  G Have two remote sites with an encrypted data link.  Regular FTP between L sites.  Looking to create a very simple GUI shell for FTP to idiot proof the process.  H Simply accept username/password for FTP, select file(s) to FTP to remote4 site with browse, provide basic logging of activity.  4 Running XP1000 computers with OpenVMS 7.3-2 and UCX.   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 11:21:53 -0700 From: Pierre.Bru@spotimage.fr 5 Subject: Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ? C Message-ID: <1113934913.330541.253670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    thanks.   * the card is a PBXGA-AA/AN, the device GYA0  : I had to change the switch and now the LCD monitor reports 1280x1024/60Hz, as expected :)  F but now I have a strange problem: the characters width do not seems toE be an integer count of pixels and so the same character do not have a A constant thickness. this make charaters a bit blurred. and when I D select text and turn it in reverse video the effect is even worst :(  = I tried to change the dpi from 100 to 75 but saw absolutly no E difference (I restarted the server, even rebooted the computer/ I use * do_default in decw$private_server_setup).   
 any idea ?   TIA, Pierre.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:27:24 GMT * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>5 Subject: Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ? 2 Message-ID: <g4c9e.4166$bD1.1334@news.cpqcorp.net>  * <Pierre.Bru@spotimage.fr> wrote in message= news:1113934913.330541.253670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... 	 > thanks.  >    > H > but now I have a strange problem: the characters width do not seems toG > be an integer count of pixels and so the same character do not have a C > constant thickness. this make charaters a bit blurred. and when I F > select text and turn it in reverse video the effect is even worst :( > ? > I tried to change the dpi from 100 to 75 but saw absolutly no G > difference (I restarted the server, even rebooted the computer/ I use + > do_default in decw$private_server_setup).  >   F In what application?  If this is DECterm, there is a setup screen that lets you select a couple fonts.   J Many applications hardwire the font, and don't adapt to the DPI.  However,F you *should* see a difference in CDE when in 75dpi versus 100dpi.  Use/ decw$utils:xdpyinfo to confirm the dpi setting.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 11:53:47 -0700 From: Pierre.Bru@spotimage.fr 5 Subject: Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ? B Message-ID: <1113936827.926629.14600@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  F decw$utils:xdpyinfo report the dpi change but it is not obvious to see it on the display :-/   G you're right. the user of the alpha complains especially on the DECterm E appearance and charaters blurriness. I will try tomorrow (it's 8:50pm A here! it's time to go back home...) to fix this using the DECterm G options. I will just have to figure out the font name based on the font  filename on the disk ;-)   thanks again   Pierre.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:29:06 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 5 Subject: Re: how to setup XServer screen definition ? B Message-ID: <1113953352.4934f71cc3e29d7695eb1d4c1d8e84a5@teranews>   Pierre.Bru@spotimage.fr wrote:H > but now I have a strange problem: the characters width do not seems toG > be an integer count of pixels and so the same character do not have a C > constant thickness. this make charaters a bit blurred. and when I F > select text and turn it in reverse video the effect is even worst :(  E On my NEC monitor, there is a function to automatically adjust screen G parameters (alignment etc). And that generally solves the problem. Also ? make sure you turn off scaling of the image to fit screen size.   G It helps to effect this alignment from the decwindows login screen. The O dithered grey pattern is exactly what the monitor needs to perfectly calibrate.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:54:39 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> Subject: Re: Login mystery+ Message-ID: <d43gkv$g8o$1@news01.intel.com>    nutznbolz wrote:/ > I would like to add few more facts about MCR.  > I > MCR is logically equivalent to 'run sys$system' and therefore will look  > only for EXEs in SYS$SYSTEM. > * > Also, using MCR you can pass parameters. >  > Try doing this:  > $ set def sys$system > $ run authorize show * /br >  > It will fail.  >  > However this won't:  > $ mc authorize show * /br  > I > This is the reason I prefer using mc zip/unzip instead of using symbols  > for them ;-)  @      So you haven't encountered "foreign command" symbols yet??? Try: 	$ Zip   == "$dev:[dir]ZIP"  	$ Unzip == "$dev:[dir]UNZIP"   7 Note the leading dollar-sign in the symbol definitions.   : 	This gives you the same ability to pass parameters on theC command line without requiring you to put ZIP & UNZIP in SYS$SYSTEM 4 (or add the full file location to the "mcr" command.   	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:37:17 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender) Subject: Re: Login mystery; Message-ID: <42655ded.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   * nutznbolz <anirban.maiti@gmail.com> wrote:/ > I would like to add few more facts about MCR.  > I > MCR is logically equivalent to 'run sys$system' and therefore will look  > only for EXEs in SYS$SYSTEM.   Close. It's more like   0 $ RUN 'F$PARSE(argument, "SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSEXE]")  E in that it doesn't use SYS$SYSTEM if a device or directory is passed.    cu,    Martin --  ;   OpenVMS DCL        | Martin Vorlaender  |  OpenVMS rules! .                      | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deA   The Original .COM  |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ 5                      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:29:15 GMT 3 From: Eric Dittman <dittman@jeeves.int.dittman.net>   Subject: Re: NIC cards supported, Message-ID: <%5c9e.69665$B12.59869@trnddc09>  " Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:7 > Got advertising yesterday (yes real mail) and I saw a 9 > 10/100/1000 PCI card using Realtek chip set for $21.50. 8 > Is this supported by VMS and on PWS600 and XP1000.  Is6 > there a  compatibility list anywhere?  Brand name is > Intellinet  B No, there is no VMS support for that card.  The only GigE EthernetA cards I've had success with on VMS are the DEGPA, DEGXA, and with 2 changes to SYS$SYSTEM:USER_CONFIG.DAT, the NC7771.  > The NC7771 can't be used as a boot device as SRM won't see it.= What is interesting is the DEGXA cards I have also say NC7771  but the PCI IDs are different. --   Eric Dittman dittman@dittman.net    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 20:48:49 -0700 From: onebigmob@earthlink.net  Subject: thank youC Message-ID: <1113968929.116398.244250@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   D READ ON : I found this on a bulletin board and decided to try it. "AE little while back, I was browsing through news groups and came across  anE article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars 6 within weeks with only an initial investment of $6.00!G So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", but like most of us, I   B was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send only $1.00 8 to each of the 6 email addresses stated in this article.G You then place your name and address at the bottom of the list at the # F 6th position and email it to your friends as well as post this messageA (with your email address in the list) to at least 200 newsgroups. F (There are thousands) No catch that was it. So after thinking it over,= and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. F I figured "what have I got to lose except $6.00, right?" So I invested# the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!! F Within days, I started getting money coming into my Pay Pal account! IA was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept  coming in. G In my first week, I made about $25.00 which means that 25 people joined   , the group after they saw my posted messages.E By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1000.00! In  the : third week I had over $10,000.00 and it=B9s still growing.? This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over E $42,000.00 and it=B9s still coming in rapidly. It=B9s certainly worth  $6.00,+ and the few minutes it took to join Paypal. + I have spent more than that on the lottery! B Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works. Also, B make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the& information off of it, as you need it.F I promise you that if you follow the directions EXACTLY, that you willG start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so    easy!  SUGGESTION: B Read this entire message carefully! (Print it out or download it.)E Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It=B9s that  easy. 1 It=B9s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00. ? IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not  illegal;D and it is virtually no risk-it really works! If all of the followingF instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends.C AGAIN, PLEASE NOTE: Follow these directions EXACTLY, and $20,000 or  moreE can be yours in 4 to 6 weeks. This program remains successful because  of. the honesty and integrity of the participants.F Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. InF this business your product is not solid and tangible,it=B9s a service. You 0 are in the business of developing Mailing Lists.E Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. B However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the incomeG which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that    list. % Here are the 4 easy steps to success:  STEP 1: " Take a few minutes to join Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/ C The Internet's most trusted Internet banking system for your future D income. When creating your Paypal account make sure you use the sameD Email address as your user name in the list below so people can send money to your account. STEP 2E Once you have a Paypal account running, use Paypal to post $1 to EACH  of@ the 6 Email Addresses below because you pay people with an email address 
 in Paypal.E To do this you may need to use a credit card, which is very easy, and D secure so nobody but Paypal may see it. If you don=B9t have a credit cardG show this great lucrative offer to someone that has one and get them to    help you pay the$6. G What you are doing is creating a service. This is absolutely legal! You   > are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it!G Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the   F legal aspects of it all. But I looked around and did some homework and found it was perfectly legal. E Here are the 6 individual Email addresses that you have to send $1 to F through Paypal for this to work properly and for you to receive money.E (If you don't send the money and decide to post the message with your C name in it anyway, Paypal will instantly pick this up and terminate  your1 account,immediately,besides the other penalties!! G If you did this you could get into serious trouble because it is fraud.   E (So follow the instructions and post the $6 and you will make lots of  money with no hassles.) E Now send $1 to each of these following email - addresses through your F paypal account: (Just in case you still haven't one yet, use this link to- open one in your name https://www.paypal.com/ 2 and pay$1 to each the following 6 email- addresses     1=2E) neoknight@gmail.com  2=2E) srjones@dodo.com.au  3=2E) nick@rosetennis.com  4=2E) wayne8uk@hotmail.com 5=2E) weslovesv@hotmail.com  6=2E) onebigmob@earthlink.net    STEP 3G Now take the #1 Email Address off the list that you see above, move the   F other Email Addresses up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc.) and add Your& Email Address as number 6 on the list. STEP 4E Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to  the  original as possible. D Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups (there are thousands of groups). G And email your message to as many people you can But remember, the more   D you post and email the more money you make! This is perfectly legal!A If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1241 of the  Postal
 Lottery laws. E Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money,  you  can use it again and again. C PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the @ honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions.F You are simply paying into a money making chain of participants and ifC the chain is broken you are screwing someone else out of their fair  share.> So, as each person who joins the family and the directions are	 followed, @ six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. D You then insert your Email Address into the list and it will move upF geometrically. So that when your name reaches the #1 position you willC have potentially received thousands of dollars into your account!!! C What an opportunity for only a total of $6.00 !! $1 for each of the  first  six people listed above C To begin with, please send you're joining fee now and then add your  own 3 Email Address to the list and you=B9re in business!  HOW TO POST TO NEWS GROUPS? ? Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and try searching for various D newsgroups(on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.)A Log on any search engine like yahoo.com,google.com,altavista.com, < excite.com, etc., then search with the subject ''millionaire message + board'' or''money making message board'' or  ''employment message8 board''or ''money making discussions'' or ''money making
 forum'' or ''business message board'' etc. D You will find thousands & thousands of message boards. Click on them one C by one and you will find the option 'post a new message'. Then Post  thisF article as a 'new message' by highlighting the text of this letter and- selecting copy then paste from the edit menu. G Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they   D scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. B You're done with your first one! It only takes about 60 seconds to7 complete postings on message boards after you catch on. B REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!!? BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200!That is it You will begin 	 receiving 8 money in your account from around the world within days!- JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. E Now the WHY part out of 200 postings: Say I receive only 5 replies (a A very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the  letter. A Each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 E postings, each with my name at # 5 and only 5 persons respond to each  of4 the original 5, this is an additional $25.00 for me.F Now those 24 each make 200 minimum posts with my name at #4 and only 5E replies each. This brings in an additional $125.00. Those 125 persons E turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and receive 5 0 replies each, I will make an additional $625.00.E Ok, now here is the FUN part, each of those 625 people post a MINIMUM  of? 200 letters with my name at #2 and they receive 5 replies each.  That just made me $3,125.00!!!G Those 3125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with   E my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 react, I will receive an : additional $15,625.00!! With an investment of only $6.00!! A - M - A - Z - I - N - G - !!A When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest  posting F in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to Email Addresses usingB Paypal on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.D The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are 9 joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday. D JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOW!! So, can you afford $6.00 to see if it really works?? I think so! F People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! A What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new  honestE users and new honest people who are joining the internet & newsgroups , everyday and are willing to give it a try ??   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:22:41 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPY + Message-ID: <d43pah$kg9$2@news01.intel.com>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  [...] I > For the record, a minicopy worked fine with a shadow set with one node  K > on a VAX and one node on an ALPHA, doing the dismount and mount from the  E > ALPHA.  I have a shadow set split across two VAX nodes, and had to  D > reboot one.  I set SHADOW_MAX_COPY to 0 on the VAXes, and did the I > DISMOUNT from an ALPHA.  Unfortunately, when the VAX booted it mounted  6 > the shadow set, and no minicopy was performed. [...]  D      Was the shadow set _also_ mounted on the Alpha?  I'd think that would be a requirement.    	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 17:10:10 -0500/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)n) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPYo- Message-ID: <UMRrCsPl6a1Y@cuebid.zko.dec.com>e  . Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> writes:1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  >> Make that three questions.  > 8 >> Second question:  Is there any reason not to specify I >> POLICY=MINICOPY=OPTIONAL when initially mounting a disk?  This is one .G >> way to enable minicopy, the other being to specify it on DISMOUNT.  iJ >> However, if the dismount is unplanned (see first question), then there L >> is no chance to specify a proper DISMOUNT command.  The only advantage I K >> can see to specifying it on DISMOUNT as opposed to MOUNT is that in the uI >> former case, fewer resources will be used.  Surely the maintenance of  K >> the write bitmap can't be that resource-intensive.  (Another reason, of IH >> course, would be to specify it on DISMOUNT of a shadow set which had L >> previously been mounted before one learned about minicopy, but I find it K >> hard to believe that that is the reason it is possible to specify it on i >> DISMOUNT as well as MOUNT.)   > H >      In fact, I haven't understood the benefit of specifying it on theF > MOUNT since all the docs seem to imply it *must* be specified on theC > DISMOUNT to allow a subsequent minicopy at mount time.  Maybe Robu > Brooks could explain?KD 	Nope; sorry!  I'm not intimately familiar with minicopy, and I mustI admit I've never spent a lot of time figuring it out, besides the aspectssL of bitmap creation and deletion that were relevant to our implementing HBMM.  J >      Yep.  A conundrum.  As Rob Brooks mentioned (off thread?), the HBMMJ > stuff gives you all sorts of control that has never been present before.E > You get this in V8.2, or in V7.3-2 with the HBMM kit installed, butt > *only* on *Alpha*.   	Well, it's I64, also :-)c   --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.comh   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Apr 2005 17:18:49 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPY 3 Message-ID: <qMfjv31WWmPh@eisner.encompasserve.org>g  _ In article <UMRrCsPl6a1Y@cuebid.zko.dec.com>, brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:d0 > Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> writes:  K >>      Yep.  A conundrum.  As Rob Brooks mentioned (off thread?), the HBMMrK >> stuff gives you all sorts of control that has never been present before. F >> You get this in V8.2, or in V7.3-2 with the HBMM kit installed, but >> *only* on *Alpha*.r >  > 	Well, it's I64, also :-)o  ' Ken's employer doesn't like Itanium :-)d   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:17:28 +0000 (UTC)eP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPYe$ Message-ID: <d44ol8$l05$4@online.de>  - In article <UMRrCsPl6a1Y@cuebid.zko.dec.com>,r2 brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:   L > >      Yep.  A conundrum.  As Rob Brooks mentioned (off thread?), the HBMML > > stuff gives you all sorts of control that has never been present before.G > > You get this in V8.2, or in V7.3-2 with the HBMM kit installed, butt > > *only* on *Alpha*. >  > 	Well, it's I64, also :-)y  G As I mentioned in another post, users of (currently) VAX-only clusters mG can get most of the benefits of MINICOPY if they add an ALPHA which a) eC mounts all the shadow sets and b) no VAXes mount the shadow sets.   + Probably the VAXes would need to be at 7.3.    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:05:38 +0000 (UTC)aP From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPY $ Message-ID: <d44nv1$l05$1@online.de>  9 In article <d43p64$kg9$1@news01.intel.com>, Ken Fairfields! <my.full.name@intel.com> writes: h  L > > First question:  If I dismount one member of a shadow set in a non-cleanL > > fashion (for instance, if there are files open on the shadow set (it is L > > well known that one cannot dismount a member of a "live" shadow set and H > > expect to get a "clean" copy) and/or if the only node with a direct I > > connection to the shadow set fails), can I expect that a) a minicopy  F > > will take place and b) the files which were open will be restored , > > correctly to the member when it returns? > E >      Nota bene: by now you have *far* more experience with minicopyaC >                 than I do, but I've got a pretty good idea how ita( >                 is supposed to work... > C >      Shadow sets are maintained as block-by-block identical.  The F > shadow server knows nothing about files.  When you dismount a memberE > of a shadow set, then minicopy it back into the shadow set, it willtE > be identical to the shadow master.  I'm assuming you are able to doo= > the dismount in a controlled way (not via a system crash!).n  F OK, I've played around a bit now.  Yes, dismount of the shadow member ' and remount with a minicopy works fine.   H >      In fact, I haven't understood the benefit of specifying it on theF > MOUNT since all the docs seem to imply it *must* be specified on theC > DISMOUNT to allow a subsequent minicopy at mount time.  Maybe Robm > Brooks could explain?    Hopefully he can.  :-)  K > > Third question:  It is recommended to set SHADOW_MAX_COPY on VAXes to 0mK > > to avoid the chance that a VAX might be assigned a copy, resulting in aoK > > full copy when no minicopy is possible.  However, imagine the following L > > situation: in a mixed cluster, there is a shadow set mounted only on VAXI > > nodes.  Hence, no minicopy is possible anyway.  It would be better tobL > > have a VAX with a local connection to at least one of the members do theF > > full copy, as opposed to an ALPHA doing it over the network (afterK > > mounting it from an ALPHA after all, of course).  Or imagine a VAX withdE > > a shadowed system disk.  Even if it is mounted by an ALPHA in thenG > > cluster, the ALPHA can't do the INITIAL mount.  If a shadow copy isuI > > needed (for example, if a member temporarily fails and returns), thenhL > > again it would make more sense to have a VAX with a direct connection doL > > the full copy than have an ALPHA do it over the network.  (There doesn'tJ > > seem to be a situation in which specifying POLICY=MINICOPY on DISMOUNTE > > would make sense in the case of a system disk.)  If the action isyI > > planned, then presumably one could temporarily define SHADOW_MAX_COPYoL > > (it is a dynamic parameter) to 1 on a VAX, do the copy, then redefine itD > > to 0 after the copy is done.  However, for unplanned, unassistedL > > scenarios, either no copy is done, or an ALPHA does it over the network. > J >      Yep.  A conundrum.  As Rob Brooks mentioned (off thread?), the HBMMJ > stuff gives you all sorts of control that has never been present before.E > You get this in V8.2, or in V7.3-2 with the HBMM kit installed, buti > *only* on *Alpha*.  I I hope to go to 7.3-2 in a couple of weeks.  Is the HBMM kit a patch for s 7.3-2 or is it a separate kit?  D >      There is an undocumented, unsupported hack that can allow youB > the control you need on the VAXes.  I'll throw this on the tableB > without much discussion...contact me offline if you want to knowJ > more.  If you set SHADOW_MAX_COPY to 0 in the CURRENT SYSGEN parameters,H > when a VAX boots, it won't be able to do any merges or copies.  If youF > want the VAX to do a copy or merge that is _pending_, the hack is toH > (a) set SHADOW_MAX_COPY to 1 in the ACTIVE parameters (post-boot), andJ > (b) reissue the MOUNT command for the shadow set that has an outstandingI > merge or copy pending.  At this point the shadow server on the VAX will6F > "notice" that there is a merge or copy to do.  If all other nodes inG > the cluster have SHADOW_MAX_COPY at 0, only the VAX will pick up thatuH > work.  Once the merge or copy starts, you can set SAHDOW_MAX_COPY back > to 0.d  5 Sounds interesting.  Why is that unsupported, though?g  A I would like to keep SHADOW_MAX_COPY at 1 on the ALPHAs so that a1D minicopy occurs in the case of an unexpected reboot which lasts longH enough so that a copy is needed, assuming this can be done automatciallyB by specifying /POLICY=MINICOPY on mount (see above) and not on theC (unplanned) dismount.  (That is, a job which periodically remounts l$ things will initiate this minicopy.)  @ Something I've noticed which is not EXPLICITLY mentioned in the I documentation, as far as I can see:  Minicopy works fine for shadow sets  E even if ALL members have direct connections ONLY to VAX machines, as 5I long as BOTH of the following are fulfilled: SHADOW_MAX_COPY is 0 on the iI VAXes AND both the DISMOUNT and MOUNT commands with /POLICY=MINICOPY are  C issued from an ALPHA.  If just one of these is true, then at least rF sometimes a VAX and not an ALPHA will do the (full) copy.  (I haven't H tried specifying /POLICY=MINICOPY on the FIRST mount, only on DISMOUNT.)  H For folks running VAX-only clusters, this might be reason enough to add  an ALPHA to the cluster!  H At startup, I now mount all disks on all nodes.  For the VAXes, I think G I will wait a bit, check if an ALPHA is in the cluster and if so, wait  I for it to (automatically, via a batch job already running) do the mounts 0G first, so that a minicopy will be done if possible.  Actually, I could :A do this on ALPHA as well, if I have more than one in the cluster.r   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:14:47 +0000 (UTC)0P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)) Subject: Re: two questions about MINICOPYd$ Message-ID: <d44og7$l05$3@online.de>  9 In article <d43pah$kg9$2@news01.intel.com>, Ken Fairfield ! <my.full.name@intel.com> writes: D  1 > Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:3 > [...]mK > > For the record, a minicopy worked fine with a shadow set with one node sM > > on a VAX and one node on an ALPHA, doing the dismount and mount from the sG > > ALPHA.  I have a shadow set split across two VAX nodes, and had to  F > > reboot one.  I set SHADOW_MAX_COPY to 0 on the VAXes, and did the K > > DISMOUNT from an ALPHA.  Unfortunately, when the VAX booted it mounted  8 > > the shadow set, and no minicopy was performed. [...] > F >      Was the shadow set _also_ mounted on the Alpha?  I'd think that > would be a requirement.6  > Yes.  This is my main user disk, which I have on two VAX nodes@ (primarily because I reboot the (currently only 1) ALPHA (in theE cluster) more often due to patch installations etc.  It is of course rG mounted on all nodes.  (It also contains SYSUAF etc.)  The problem was rF that the VAX mounted this shadow set on startup.  Had I been quick, I I probably could have issued a MOUNT command from the ALPHA as soon as the 1E member hosted by the rebooted VAX was up.  As I mentioned in another bI post, I think I'll wait a bit at startup (I wait anyway so that there is iF a chance for ALL disks to come up after a cluster reboot) and give an H ALPHA a chance to automatically do the mount before letting the VAX try.  I As I mentioned in another post, not only does SHADOW_MAX_COPY have to be -F 0 on VAXes (the documentation implies that this is "just to be sure", H since it is unlikely that a VAX will get assigned the copy duty, but in I the 4 or 5 cases I tried, it was ALWAYS a VAX, though I suppose an ALPHA  C could have gotten the copy duty assigned), but also the (DIS)MOUNT VD command (with /POLICY=MINICOPY, implicitly or explicitly) has to be  issued from an ALPHA.M   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:41:54 -0500o2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>Y Subject: Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP or LANCP boot data9+ Message-ID: <4265B362.AE2B7B63@comcast.net>r   Michael Moroney wrote: > [snip]0 > Yes.  IP uses ARP which is a separate protocol  F Alright. I have to ask the question: is ARP a separate ethernet packet; type, or is it a subtype under the list of IP packet types?h   -- n David J Dachtera dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/e   Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:06:35 -0400v- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP or LANCP boot data B Message-ID: <1113962790.ee88038c4cc9853562eb76fa92c7d522@teranews>   David J Dachtera wrote:4 >  > Michael Moroney wrote:
 > > [snip]2 > > Yes.  IP uses ARP which is a separate protocol > H > Alright. I have to ask the question: is ARP a separate ethernet packet= > type, or is it a subtype under the list of IP packet types?b  8 From the table below, ARP is part of the IP group (08).     . This is an old list from the ethermon utility:  B * 02-00 XEROX: PUP                      * 60-01 DEC: MOP Dump/LoadG * 02-01 XEROX: PUP Addr. Trans          * 60-02 DEC: MOP Remote Console)C * 06-00 XEROX: NS IDP                   * 60-03 DEC: DECnet Phase 4n8 * 08-00 Internet IP (DOD)               * 60-04 DEC: LAT@ * 08-01 Internet IP (X.75)              * 60-05 DEC: DiagnosticsD * 08-02 Internet IP (NBS)               * 60-06 DEC: Customer/VAXELN9 * 08-03 Internet IP (ECMA)              * 60-07 DEC: LAVC4: * 08-04 Chaosnet                        * 80-03 Cronus VLN= * 08-05 X.25 Level 3                    * 80-04 Cronus Directr8 * 08-06 Internet ARP                    * 80-05 HP Probe6 * 08-07 XNS Compatibility               * 80-06 Nestar7 * 08-1C Symbolics: private              * 80-10 Excelano; * 08-88 Xyplex: terminal net            * 80-35 Reverse ARPsC * 10-00 Berkeley: trailer               * 80-38 DEC: DIGITAL BridgeaH * 10-01 NFS #1 (?)                      * 80-3F DEC: LAN Traffic Monitor@ * 10-02 NFS #2 (?)                      * 80-7C Merit Internodal9 * 16-00 - valid -                       * 80-9B AppleTalkr8 * 52-08 BBN: Simnet                     * 90-00 Loopback Total of 36 names defined.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 01:34:00 GMTh9 From: Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us> % Subject: Re: VMS to OS X file sharing D Message-ID: <nospam.News.Bob-01E57D.21335619042005@news.verizon.net>  : In article <gB89e.746$Xb4.534@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,=  "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com> wrote:9   > Or Computer 2, Jeff 0. > 
 > ROUND 1. > I > I tried setting up the Mac as an NFS server following the instructions tJ > in the book "Mac OS X Unleashed" and the VMS side could mount the share H > but the vms side always got a protection violation trying to write to  > the share. > 
 > ROUND 2. > F > I tried setting up the VMS side as a NFS server using the following M > commands (this was from "Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS, Management"):u > 4 > TCPIP> ADD PROXY TAMMY/UID=503/GID=503/HOST=DSIMAC > TCPIP> MAP "/share" DKA200:92 > TCPIP> ADD EXPORT "/share/PC_SHARE" /HOST=DSIMAC > K > DKA200 is an ODS-5 disk with a directory DKA200:[PC_SHARE] that is owned w > by Tammy.t > ! > On the Mac I did the following:  > $ > I created a file m.txt containing: > {l > "opts" = ( "w" );d+ > "dir" = ( "/Users/Tammy/Desktop/share" );x- > "name" = ( "192.168.5.1:/share/PC_SHARE" );o > "vfstype" = ( "nfs" ); > }r >  > then as root:a& > 	root# nuitil -create . /mounts/new1) > 	root# niload -r /mounts/new1 . < m.txt  >  > then finally:  > 	root# mount -t nfs -a >  > On the mac this returns:> > 	mount-nfs: can't access /share/PC_SHARE : permission denied > - > On the VMS side I get these Opcom messages: M > 	%TCPIP-E-NFS_BFSCAL, opeeration MOUNT_POINT failed on file /share/PC_SHARE7 > 0 > 	%TCPIP-E-MAPNOSYS, file system is not mapped. > ) > Google was no help with these messages.t >  > 	e  . I do not know if this will work, but try using  =         mount_nfs -P hostname@exported_directory /mount_point5  C The -P tells the mount_nfs command to use a privileged port.  Some  B servers do not trust a client that does not use a privileged port.  I I know this allowed, my Mac OS X 10.3.9 system to connect to a Linux NFS oG server that was rejecting the mount request before with the same error t you were getting.n  2                                         Bob Harris   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:21:49 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>& Subject: Re: [OMSAIS] Silly question ?/ Message-ID: <426513FD.20597.1F3C5A88@localhost>s  9 On 19 Apr 2005 at 19:23, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:pG > I just noted, that MSAI (Migration Software Alpha to Itanic) has also - > an AXPVMS version of the kit. What's this ?n  E Yes, AEST runs on both Alpha and Itanium.  So you don't even need an e Itanium to do the migration.  % > (Sounds like running VEST on VAX). 1   And it *does* run on VAX.u  ) > btw: What is the status of OMSVA/VEST ?r7 > Last version that I know of was V1.2 (at about 2002).1   That's the latest version.  % > Does it run on OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 ?i  B Good question.  Anyone have a V8.2 system handy?  Heck, how about  AEST'ing VEST?  E Of course, you could keep a VAX around, or run CHARON-VAX [Shameless e Plug (tm) Alert].l  , > Or is there a newer version in the works ?  E I wouldn't expect to see any further development.  What does it need v! to do that it doesn't do already?   ) > Why is it not mentioned in the SWROLL ?n  . It's in "as-is" mode, so it's not a "product".  
 --Stan Quayle, Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363:3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USAg0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:42:01 -0400o' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>o& Subject: RE: [OMSAIS] Silly question ?R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB5ECAAD@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----< > From: Stanley F. Quayle [mailto:squayle@insight.rr.com]=20 > Sent: April 19, 2005 2:22 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comu( > Subject: Re: [OMSAIS] Silly question ? >=20; > On 19 Apr 2005 at 19:23, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:s; > > I just noted, that MSAI (Migration Software Alpha to=20t > Itanic) has also/ > > an AXPVMS version of the kit. What's this ?  >=20I > Yes, AEST runs on both Alpha and Itanium.  So you don't even need an=20- > Itanium to do the migration. >=20) > > (Sounds like running VEST on VAX).=20  >=20 > And it *does* run on VAX.R >=20+ > > btw: What is the status of OMSVA/VEST ?i9 > > Last version that I know of was V1.2 (at about 2002).o >=20 > That's the latest version. >=20' > > Does it run on OpenVMS Alpha V8.2 ?r >=20F > Good question.  Anyone have a V8.2 system handy?  Heck, how about=20 > AEST'ing VEST? >=20I > Of course, you could keep a VAX around, or run CHARON-VAX [Shameless=20  > Plug (tm) Alert].  >=20. > > Or is there a newer version in the works ? >=20I > I wouldn't expect to see any further development.  What does it need=20 # > to do that it doesn't do already?  >=20+ > > Why is it not mentioned in the SWROLL ?  >=200 > It's in "as-is" mode, so it's not a "product". >=20 > --Stan Quayleg > Quayle Consulting Inc. >=20 > ----------/ > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 5 > 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 2 > stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com >=20     An additional reference:< http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/omsva/omsais.html2 "The HP OMSAIS product includes two components:=20  F Alpha Environment Software Translator (AEST)-an HP OMSAIS utility thatE translates executable and shareable OpenVMS AlphaServer system imagesnD into functionally equivalent images that run on OpenVMS on Integrity@ servers. A translated image is an OpenVMS Integrity server imageH containing both AlphaServer system code translated into Integrity serverB code, as well as the original OpenVMS AlphaServer system image.=20  H Translated Image Environment (TIE)-asoftware component that provides theD run-time environment for translated image execution. TIE for OpenVMSC v8.2 on Integrity servers should be downloaded and installed on theu4 target system. To download, click the link below.=20  : Note: TIE will be included in the next version of OpenVMS.   [snip..]   Regardsg  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantt HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477a kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.219 ************************