1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 22 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 223       Contents: Re: Apache, mysql, phpMyAdmin > Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename> Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename> Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Distribution Media Re: Distribution Media Re: Distribution Media Re: Distribution Media Re: Legato NetWorkerA Re: Problem running x-windows client (exceed) over VPN connection 8 Re: SHOW NET prob:  wrong info after changing IP addressP Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP orLANCP boot datab  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:14:45 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> & Subject: Re: Apache, mysql, phpMyAdmin3 Message-ID: <1114110793.74488.0@doris.uk.clara.net>    Chris Sharman wrote:7 > Installed all the latest versions on Alpha VMS 7.3-1. J > All appears to be working, but I can't get phpMyAdmin to login properly. > K > I've got mysql installed on a test machine with passwords unset (ie open  K > access), and phpMyAdmin (& Issue-Tracker) work there (phpMyAdmin puts up  A > a standard user/password browser dialog, and accepts anything).  > I > On a different machine, I've set the mysql root password (as described  : > in http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/anonymous/kits/#mysql ). > H > The local command line mysql client works fine (with password), but I G > can't access the mysql server from phpMyAdmin, either from the local  1 > webserver, or from the original test webserver.  > L > I'm not really clear whether it's an Apache, mysql, or phpMyAdmin problem. > K > I've read Alan Winston's book, but I'm still unclear on how it all hangs  0 > together - there isn't much on authentication. > J > I don't really need anything complicated at this stage: one functioning G > username/password pair will suffice, so long as it's not open access. H > I don't really want to use vms authentication, because I don't really G > want all of the vms logins on the box to have access to the database.  > 5 > Can anyone point me in the right direction please ?  > 	 > Thanks,  > Chris    Chris,  D Please contribute any experiences to help the rest of us at my VAMP 6 forum at http://www.issinoho.com:8080/phpbb2/index.php  L Incidentally, you would have found the answer to this pearl on the board ;-)   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:45:35 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) G Subject: Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename 2 Message-ID: <zpT9e.4344$yh3.3102@news.cpqcorp.net>  w In article <d42asj$frh$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: G :OK.  One question: to add the SYS$NODE_BAR identifier, does it matter   :what the numerical value is?   D   The identifier should be created automatically, after booting with   the new node name.    G   The binary value of the newly-created SYS$NODE_node identifier is not E   critical.  It gets allocated from the normal range for identifiers, .   rather than from one of the reserved ranges.  G :Right, these are mostly VAX(station) 4000 systems, built around 1990,  " :and a couple of early 90s ALPHAs.  H   Have you considered shared SCSI (assuming the particular OpenVMS AlphaG   SCSI controllers are capable of it; of TQC) and satellite operations?      From another reply:   9 :Assuming one does a fresh install, when and how does the 4 :SYS$NODE_nodename identifier get initially created?  &   Look in VMS$LPBEGIN-050_STARTUP.COM.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:15:06 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)G Subject: Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename $ Message-ID: <d491k9$717$1@online.de>  G In article <zpT9e.4344$yh3.3102@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff  Hoffman) writes:    I > :Right, these are mostly VAX(station) 4000 systems, built around 1990,  $ > :and a couple of early 90s ALPHAs. > J >   Have you considered shared SCSI (assuming the particular OpenVMS AlphaI >   SCSI controllers are capable of it; of TQC) and satellite operations?   E As far as I know, no VAX machine has such controllers (at least none  E came from the factory that way).  I believe I checked once and found  ; that my ALPHA controllers don't support shared SCSI either.   H Actually, there are advantages to more than one system disk: one can do D a rolling upgrade, and it is some protection against some (probably 0 human) error destroying both shadow-set members.  G Satellites aren't an option since I want enough boot nodes so that the  D cluster stays up if one goes down.  I don't need a lot of nodes for F computing power (well, at least not most of the time), but rather for  redundancy.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:53:09 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) G Subject: Re: changing node name: RENAME/IDENTIFIER SYS$NODE_oldnodename 2 Message-ID: <9hV9e.4350$Lj3.1192@news.cpqcorp.net>  w In article <d491k9$717$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: H :In article <zpT9e.4344$yh3.3102@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff :Hoffman) writes:  : J :> :Right, these are mostly VAX(station) 4000 systems, built around 1990, % :> :and a couple of early 90s ALPHAs.  :>  K :>   Have you considered shared SCSI (assuming the particular OpenVMS Alpha J :>   SCSI controllers are capable of it; of TQC) and satellite operations? : 6 :As far as I know, no VAX machine has such controllers  H   No shared SCSI support on VAX.  DSSI was the option for various of the;   low-end VAX boxes, where a DSSI controller was available.   I :Actually, there are advantages to more than one system disk: one can do  E :a rolling upgrade, and it is some protection against some (probably  1 :human) error destroying both shadow-set members.   H   Please explain this "clustering" stuff to me, as I'm not sure I reallyM   understand it.  :-)  It runs on either a VMS or an OpenVMS node, right? :-)    	--   H   But seriously, yes, there are advantages here.  I tend to use archivalK   storage or second disks for protection against pilot error or application H   failure; I don't maintain multiple "hot" system disks for this reason,J   nor for rolling upgrades.  When I need a second system disk, I typicallyI   create it, then process or upgrade it, and then roll (other) nodes over ;   to it -- I don't typically run one as a matter of course.   E   This is not to say there are situations where multiple "hot" system J   disks isn't an option for some folks -- there are certainly environmentsJ   where cluster uptime and particularly cluster catastrophic recovery-timeA   maximum limit requirements tend to warrant such configurations.   J   For a hobbyist cluster, one disk per architecture will usually work justF   fine, and it's less maintenance -- and more experience with cluster 9   operations and with common cluster configurations, too.   H   I've always figured a shared system disk is about 1.5X of the costs ofI   a single system disk -- there's more effort than maintaining one system J   disk, but less than maintaining a cluster with two or more system disks.H   Getting into the common system disk configuration is always the hassleM   and the up-front cost -- once you get there, you never want to go back. :-)         N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:32:00 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?. Message-ID: <4267B960.3654.29923B8F@localhost>  + On 21 Apr 2005 at 12:33, Bob Koehler wrote: K > > You can access physical SCSI disks by addressing the SCSI bus directly.  > G > With Files-11 on it?  How do I keep Windows from overwriting the file  > system header?    E If the disk's file system is not recognized by Windows (and Files-11  E is definitely not recognized), Windows assigns it a device name like  E "\\.\PhysicalDisk3".  It's not assigned a drive letter.  And Windows  # doesn't write anything to the disk.   C Note that this applies to entire disk drives, not partitions.  But  0 then VMS can't use a partitioned disk, anyway...  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:50:14 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?0 Message-ID: <116g0vg6tnbj0a7@corp.supernews.com>   david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote: f > In article <4266D565.18877.2617BDF3@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes: > H >>>The application was eventually and relatively easily and successfullyC >>>transferred to an Alpha PWS 500au running OpenVMS using the same C >>>external instrumentation, but using PCI equivalents of the Q-Bus I >>>hardware, e.g. the DCI-1100 replacement for the DRQ3B from The Logical H >>>Co. This PCI card and the OpenVMS driver is still available today ... >>>but at a cost of $2K. >>> C >>>My question concerns whether this type of functionality could be C >>>reproduced on a PC, since this would allow thousands of lines of 1 >>>existing high level FORTRAN code to be reused.  >>< >>[Shameless Plug (tm) Alert -- I am a CHARON-VAX reseller.] >>F >>CHARON-VAX/XM for Windows could control the DCI-1100.  In fact, The H >>Logical Company is the preferred partner for CHARON-VAX I/O devices.  , >>Some development work would be required.   >>@ >>Your highly-VMS-specific code would work unchanged in the VMS C >>environment provided by CHARON-VAX.  It would emulate a VAX, but  E >>you've already indicated that it's not a problem.  And the virtual  - >>VAX would be far faster than a MicroVAX II.  >>( >>Details on CHARON-VAX is available at: >>' >> http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html  >> >  > L > Wouldn't the fact that  CHARON-VAX/XM for Windows is running under windows9 > compromise it's ability to run real-time applications ?  >  >  > David Webb > Security team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University  D Disclaimer, I've never seen CHARON-VAX running, and know absolutely 1 nothing about how it works.  This is speculation.   E Stan Quayle has written in the past that serious uses of the product  C involve a dual processor configuration, with stripped down windows  I running on one processor, and the emulated CPU running on the second, or   something similar to that.  F  From the perspective of the CPU, if the emulation is correct, what's H the difference in running on silicon, or an emulator?  If the emulation I essentially gives you a 'CPU', and the emulation is running on something  E that allows it to be much faster than any silicon based VAX CPU ever  I built, then the realtime capability of VMS on the emulation should be as  F good or better than any VAX CPU.  Note that anything beyond the 'CPU' H could be an issue.  I'm just thinking about the emulated vs silicon CPU.   Dave   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:57:49 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?0 Message-ID: <116g1dlff75oh6b@corp.supernews.com>   Tom Linden wrote: . > On 21 Apr 2005 07:28:05 -0500, Bob Koehler  2 > <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote: > H >> In article <lMu9e.18006$5F3.2741@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Jon"  ! >> <jwatmuff@bigpond.com> writes:  >> >>> I >>> The application was eventually and relatively easily and successfully F >>> transferred to an Alpha PWS 500au running OpenVMS using the same   >>> externalF >>> instrumentation, but using PCI equivalents of the Q-Bus hardware, 
 >>> e.g.  the E >>> DCI-1100 replacement for the DRQ3B from The Logical Co. This PCI  
 >>> card  and I >>> the OpenVMS driver is still available today ... but at a cost of $2K.  >>>  >>H >>    OBTW, I'd consider $2K cheap compared to the cost of other optionsK >>    you might consider.  And do consider that the slowest, cheapest Alpha 0 >>    you can get off eBay will handle the load. >>J >>    And, yes, there are real-time OS available for PC hardware.  Look at- >>    the total cost, including porting cost.  >>@ >>    IMHO it'll be hard to beat a good used Apha on total cost. >>J > It wasn't clear from the OP what was wrong with the VAX.  That is also a" > possibility, pick up some VAXen.  F Personally, I wouldn't want the hassle of messing around with a Q-BUS 
 based VAX.   Dave   ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2005 15:48:41 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?3 Message-ID: <k+oBHGRRSYoi@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <4267B960.3654.29923B8F@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes:  > G > If the disk's file system is not recognized by Windows (and Files-11  G > is definitely not recognized), Windows assigns it a device name like  G > "\\.\PhysicalDisk3".  It's not assigned a drive letter.  And Windows  % > doesn't write anything to the disk.  >   H    This must be a change, do you know what version of Windows it startedF    with?  Windows used to be notorious for writing a "harmless" header    to every disk.    ------------------------------    Date: 21 Apr 2005 16:02:43 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?3 Message-ID: <YY04lfBeJ0zW@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <116g1dlff75oh6b@corp.supernews.com>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > H > Personally, I wouldn't want the hassle of messing around with a Q-BUS  > based VAX.  L    Having done it many times (UNIBUS before that) I find it not a problem.  9    You just have to get the bus layed out correctly once.   9    But I think someone was proposing a PCI Alpha instead.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:03:59 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?B Message-ID: <1114121063.960f28de254487782680c880182eb312@teranews>   Dave Froble wrote:J > essentially gives you a 'CPU', and the emulation is running on somethingF > that allows it to be much faster than any silicon based VAX CPU everJ > built, then the realtime capability of VMS on the emulation should be as$ > good or better than any VAX CPU.    H In practice, probably. Just like ethernet, despite packet retrasnmits isF much faster than the military protocols which are fast slower and this can handle real-time.   F On the other hand, if you are very pedantic, unless you have garanteesD that the underlying OS (Windows) will never stop your emulator for XG amount of time, you cannot garantee the emulated VMS will be capable of ' realtime without any temporary freezes.   H Although this might put Stan Quayle out of work, the best bet is for theF VMS engineers to hurry up with the port of VMS to the 8086. That wouldD give you the best of both worlds: cheap commodity hardware for whichF there is competition at both the chip and vendor levels, combined with' VMS, a robust OS capable of  real time.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:42:31 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?, Message-ID: <tcidnZWVZI_i1fXfRVn-pg@igs.net>   Stanley F. Quayle wrote:: > On 21 Apr 2005 at 10:52, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote:E >> Wouldn't the fact that  CHARON-VAX/XM for Windows is running under B >> windows compromise it's ability to run real-time applications ? > ; > Nope.  In fact, there are lots of military and industrial / > applications running on CHARON-VAX right now.  > E > For a supported configuration, CHARON-VAX requires a dual-processor ? > PC.  One processor emulates, the VAX.  The other does network C > functions and any Windows "housekeeping".  While you can get away G > with only one processor for number crunching, a real time application 5 > like this would definitely require both processors.  >  > --Stan Quayle  > Quayle Consulting Inc.      B Or a pair of dual-core Opterons or AMD Althlon 64 dual-cores?  :-)   --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:38:44 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?/ Message-ID: <42683984.12367.2B86C0C0@localhost>   * On 21 Apr 2005 at 20:42, John Smith wrote:G > > For a supported configuration, CHARON-VAX requires a dual-processor  > > PC.  > D > Or a pair of dual-core Opterons or AMD Althlon 64 dual-cores?  :-)  D Just one.  Because of licensing issues, SRI has elected to restrict 3 the bottom-end CHARON-VAX versions to a total of 2  ? processors/cores/hyperthreads.  The 6630 and 6640 emulators do    require 4 processors, however.    < AMD is about 10% faster than Intel.  On the fastest AMD box ? available, the 6640 emulator is faster than any VAX ever built.   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:50:24 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?/ Message-ID: <42683C40.28641.2B916F62@localhost>   + On 21 Apr 2005 at 15:48, Bob Koehler wrote: B >    This must be a change, do you know what version of Windows it> >    started with?  Windows used to be notorious for writing a% >    "harmless" header to every disk.   C I remember that was a problem on Alpha with dual-boot VMS and NT.   1 Not that I've seen a NT Alpha in quite some time.   F No such problem happens under Windows 2000, XP, or Server 2003 (which & are the versions CHARON-VAX supports).  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:55:55 -0400 2 From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com>  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?/ Message-ID: <42683D8B.14205.2B967D14@localhost>   ( On 21 Apr 2005 at 18:03, JF Mezei wrote:F > Although this might put Stan Quayle out of work, the best bet is forA > the VMS engineers to hurry up with the port of VMS to the 8086.   F Not to worry.  I didn't become a CHARON-VAX reseller to sell widgets. F It's just one of the tools I have available.  I even send some people $ to Island Computer for cheap Alphas.  A I also do VMS software development and system management.  There  , seems to be lots of opportunities available.  E Get VMS onto my Palm phone and I'll be a really happy camper.  Right  3 now, I have to settle for my laptop and CHARON-VAX.   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------- Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363 3 8572 North Spring Ct., Pickerington, OH  43147  USA 0 stan-at-stanq-dot-com       http://www.stanq.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:14:48 -0700 - From: David Coolbear <david@thecoolbears.org>  Subject: Distribution Media 0 Message-ID: <JZOdncg2w5yUzfXfRVn-gw@comcast.com>  I Some time ago I purchased a CD with VMS and, using a hobbyest license, I  G installed VMS under SIMH. I've acquired a VAXStation 3200 and I'd like  D to get VMS installed on it. The 3200 has a TK50 and an RX50, but no G CD-ROM drive. HP isn't selling VMS on TK50s, so is there anyway to get  ? VMS installed? Can you get a hobbyest license for this machine?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:07:14 -0400 , From: Carl Friedberg <frida.fried@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Distribution Media 7 Message-ID: <890539d9050421190751214c63@mail.gmail.com>   	 Hi David,   D This may or may not be helpful to you. I purchased a brand, spanking@ new VaxStation 4000 VLC in 1992 or 1993, also without any way toA load media; it came with some flavor of RZ drive, maybe anRZ22 or D RZ 23, with 100mb capacity. I eventually figured out how to cable up? an external SCSI box, into which I crammed an Exabyte 8mm tape, < a very old RRD40 (with a CDrom carrier); and a 500mb Seagate/ drive, which booteded VMS 5.5-2 and later IIRC.   C SCSI is your friend. I am not familiar with the 3200. If it doesn't = come with on-board SCSI, you will need an appropriate SCSI=20 6 adapter,which you might (with some luck) find on EBay.  : On 4/21/05, David Coolbear <david@thecoolbears.org> wrote:J > Some time ago I purchased a CD with VMS and, using a hobbyest license, IH > installed VMS under SIMH. I've acquired a VAXStation 3200 and I'd likeE > to get VMS installed on it. The 3200 has a TK50 and an RX50, but no H > CD-ROM drive. HP isn't selling VMS on TK50s, so is there anyway to getA > VMS installed? Can you get a hobbyest license for this machine?  >=20 >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:02:44 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Distribution Media + Message-ID: <42685B44.B6148272@comcast.net>    David Coolbear wrote:  > J > Some time ago I purchased a CD with VMS and, using a hobbyest license, IH > installed VMS under SIMH. I've acquired a VAXStation 3200 and I'd likeE > to get VMS installed on it. The 3200 has a TK50 and an RX50, but no H > CD-ROM drive. HP isn't selling VMS on TK50s, so is there anyway to get > VMS installed?  H Most older Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM drives stand a fair chance to work with a6 VAX that has SCSI. Search eBay for RRD42 drives, also.  2 > Can you get a hobbyest license for this machine?  E You can get a HOBBYIST license for any machine the same place you got  the one you have now. See:   http://www.openvmshobbyist.org/   B Cut and paste the URL if it's not clickable in your newsreader, or6 transcribe it manually (note the spelling CAREFULLY!).   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 00:28:13 -0400 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>  Subject: Re: Distribution Media 0 Message-ID: <116gval4r6jg0ba@corp.supernews.com>   David Coolbear wrote: K > Some time ago I purchased a CD with VMS and, using a hobbyest license, I  I > installed VMS under SIMH. I've acquired a VAXStation 3200 and I'd like  F > to get VMS installed on it. The 3200 has a TK50 and an RX50, but no I > CD-ROM drive. HP isn't selling VMS on TK50s, so is there anyway to get  A > VMS installed? Can you get a hobbyest license for this machine?  >   @ I've never seen a 3200, but it's a Q-BUS machine as others have H indicated.  If you can get a SCSI adapter for Q-BUS, then you have some  chances.  7 What is the size of the disk(s) you have on the system?   H If you have enough storage, then, I could dig, DEEP, and either come up D with some TK-50 media, or TK-50 tape(s) that I could load with some ! version of VMS distribution data.   H I cannot promise that any of the TK50 drives I have will still function.   Dave --4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:10:48 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Legato NetWorker / Message-ID: <BE8D9D28.C58F%roktsci@comcast.net>   E On 4/21/05 7:07 AM, in article 000201c5467b$8023d1c0$994614ac@wat153, ) "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote:    > Hello, > D > My basic question is: is the Legato NetWorker for OpenVMS a serverG > license or only a client license, so that I must have any Do Nix with  > UNIX or Windows server?  >  > Best regards R. Wingert  > G At this time they only offer Storage node and Client node capabilities. K Although they do say they will eventually offer a Networker Server node for . VMS, they have not yet announced a time frame.   Jeff   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:17:44 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>J Subject: Re: Problem running x-windows client (exceed) over VPN connection+ Message-ID: <d498q9$a45$1@news01.intel.com>   
 Triger wrote: E > Ok, guys I was experimenting by your answers and here is situation:  > $ > WHEN LAPTOP IS CONNECTED IN LAN:  G > 1. "set display...decw$clock..." routine works fine, clock appears on  > laptop screen G > 2. Telnet from Alpha server to laptop works fine (when I start telnet  > server on laptop, of course) > # > WHEN LAPTOP IS CONNECTED WIA WPN:  > = > 1. "set display....@decw$clock..." doesn't work, got error: . >         "x toolkit error: can't open display2 >          %dwt-f-nomsg, Message number 03AB8204 " > 5 > 2. Telnet from Alpha server to laptop doesn't work  0 >        "Invalid or unknown host <ip address> " > G > Obviosly, problem could be that Alpha "cannot see" laptop over VPN ??  > Am I right ??   0      There's not enough information here, but...  ?      I use my laptop connected directly to the lan while in the D   office.  When I take my laptop home, I connect to the internet viaE   ADSL (Verizon), then VPN to "work".  Here are several observations:   =      Laptops usually are configured for DHCP, at least that's B   universally the case in my environment, so on any one day, I may@   have a different IP address from the day before (actually, the@   work one is pretty consistent due to "lease" times, etc.).  AtA   home, the ADSL connection gives me a different IP address.  And A   finally, when I make the VPN connection, I have yet a different 
   IP address.   A      When you try to connect to your laptop from the Alpha (e.g., C   via telnet), are you sure you're using the correct-at-that-moment F   IP address of your laptop?  Does your laptop have a fixed IP addressC   when connected to the LAN and/or is its domain name registered in    DNS?  E      While others have hinted at firewall or similar issues, you need E   to confirm that at least your outgoing telnet, and SET DISPLAY, are D   using the correct IP address of your laptop when its connected via   VPN.  B      Assuming this is the problem, that the Alpha is trying to getB   to the laptop using the "fixed LAN" address, rather than the VPN<   address, I can outline how I manage this in a more-or-less!   transparent way under Exceed...    	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:58:07 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>A Subject: Re: SHOW NET prob:  wrong info after changing IP address + Message-ID: <42685A2F.36BC397A@comcast.net>    Chris wrote: > H > The routine that gets called at boottime to enumerate the networks is:( > SYS$STARTUP:SYS$NET_SERVICES_TCPIP.COM > M > It should do the update for you, without you needing to fiddle with the SET  > NETWORK command syntax  E See the thread about NTP. Similarly, the "new" SHOW NETWORK subsystem C was developed separate from either DECnet, UCX or any other network G product for VMS. They do not integrate with it; however, it attempts to $ integrate with them (within limits).  F "SHOW NETWORK/OLD" is more like what you're expecting, but only covers DECnet.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:54:18 -0500 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>Y Subject: Re: VMS FAQ: changing volume label of system disk: DECnet MOP orLANCP boot datab + Message-ID: <4268594A.F9BBCDDF@comcast.net>    prep@prep.synonet.com wrote: > 6 > David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: >  > > Michael Moroney wrote: > >> [snip]  > 3 > >> Yes.  IP uses ARP which is a separate protocol  > C > > Alright. I have to ask the question: is ARP a separate ethernet F > > packet type, or is it a subtype under the list of IP packet types? > D > Think carefully about what ARP does and you should get the answer.  @ I did. That's why I thought it was a different sub-type under IP> (correlates MAC addresses to protocol-specific information (IPD address)). I didn't expect it to be a separate packet/protocol type,F unless there's an undocumented way to tell ARP to relate a MAC addressF to the quibble-dunk address at offset gribbleniff in the packet headerE for a length of foofledoofle. That way, it's protocol-agnostic. As it @ is, it's IP-specific, and therefore I expected it to be a packet sub-type under IP.  ? Note that DEC-proprietary protocols implement this at a "layer" B intrinsic to the protocol (since most of them pre-date the 7-layerC model), rather than using a separate, distinct protocol for address  resolution.    --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.223 ************************                                                                                            .lang.java.help:62989

Use:

start javaw <...>


"Eddie" <edd@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:42f56f2.0301252025.10b22967@posting.google.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I probably should have explained what I'm trying to do a little
> better!
>
> javaw.exe works fine if you create a shortcut to it & the application
> however I've founnd that using it in a *.bat file still causes a DOS
> window to appear.
>
> The problem is, I want to distribute my application to some of the
> clients of the co' that I work for. I want to use a *.bat file to
> launch the application rather than a shortcut, as the paths in a
> shortcuts need to be absolute paths. I want to include the Java
> Runtime Environment on the CD, so I have total control over what's
> happening with the application. So I will know the paths to the
> application & javaw.exe (...etc), but the drive letter for the CD-ROM
> drive will vary with each PC.
>
> Eddie.
>
>
> edd@hotpop.com (Eddie) wrote in message
news:<42f56f2.0301250145.32e24e18@posting.google.com>...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Seems when ever the Java Runtime Environment & a java application is
> > run with *.bat or *.cmd in Windows, a DOS window appears & remains
> > until the application is closed.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is a way to get rid this DOS window?
> >
> > Eddie.


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