1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 25 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 230       Contents:7 Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation? 7 Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: DCL File directory browser7 Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder 7 Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder 9 Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMS 9 Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMS 9 Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMS  Re: Legato NetWorker Re: Login mystery  Re: Login mystery  Re: Login mystery % MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol ) Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol ) Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol  New SKD|SKC|SKHPCs available, Qt 3.x for OpenVMS; any news on availability/ RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returns 3 Re: RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returns 3 Re: RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returns  Re: Slow Filesystem I/O  Re: Slow Filesystem I/O  Re: Slow Filesystem I/O  Re: Slow Filesystem I/O  Re: Slow Filesystem I/O * Stock market mergers ? a VMS slant to it ?! Re: What is SMTP status code 556? 6 [ECP V5.5A] Unrecognized ECP/Collect data file version  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 11:16:33 -0100* From: "Michael Kraemer" <M.Kraemer@gsi.de>@ Subject: Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?0 Message-ID: <426CD191.MD-1.4.4.M.Kraemer@gsi.de>  A > I can't help but agree, it's an incredibly hostile environment. G > And why, please someone explain, is it still referred to as the "New  F > Desktop Environment" a full 10 years after it first appeared and is 0 > probably the only OS that still ships with it.  8 Not true. AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, Tru64, all ship with CDE.   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:45:59 +0000 (UTC) - From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) @ Subject: Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?. Message-ID: <d4j3bn$a2k$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> writes in article <d4bi0n$f9e$1@news01.intel.com> dated Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:07:03 -0700: E >     "... do you, or does anyone, know how to add custom backgrounds G >      to CDE?  Where do they live and what format are they (jpeg, bpm,  >      gif, etc.)?"  > C >Can anyone provide an answer to that question?  Can aynone suggest @ >a good starting point to learn about custom CDE (as implemented >under DECwindows)?   4 Sorry I missed that question last time you asked it.  K Have a look in SYS$COMMON:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.BACKDROPS]; it's full of .PM  and .BM files.  - http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=PM  "X Window PixelMap Bitmap"  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:45:37 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?) Message-ID: <d4il91$eq7$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   N In article <opspnzl6ylzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:G >On 23 Apr 2005 01:02:48 GMT, Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote:  > 2 >> In article <42695693.22166.2FE034B9@localhost>,8 >> 	"Stanley F. Quayle" <squayle@insight.rr.com> writes:3 >>> On 22 Apr 2005 at 22:26, Bill Gunshannon wrote: I >>>> Nothing has come out yet with enough performance to match, much less  >>>> emulate the Alpha.  >>> ' >>> Not yet.  Give it 10 or 15 years...  >>>  >>F >> How's that?  5 years for Itanium to die and then 10 more to develop >> the new architecture?G >Itanium is on life support, I'll give you odds that it will be dropped  >within a year.   J The trouble comes when it is dropped in the near future but after HP stop A selling new Alphas (Which I believe is slated for Sep 30th 2006). J Then you get a hell of a lot of very upset customers as they watch all theL vendors who have been persuaded to port their software to IA64 say that theyM won't be providing the next upgrade on VMS on IA64 since it's a dead platform # which doesn't have that many users.   O As it is there are probably a large number of people who will be having to make N difficult choices as to whether to upgrade their alpha systems or move to IA64 in the next few months.       
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University       >> >> bill  >> >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:29:44 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?, Message-ID: <q-ednduaceZObfHfRVn-3g@igs.net>   Tom Linden wrote: H > On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0400, John Smith <a@nonymous.com> wrote: > D >> HP should take the rights they have in Alpha and partner with the >> Chinese today.  >> The Benefits:6 >> a) VMS would still have a great platform to run on.2 >> b) Linux would have a great platform to run on.G >> c) Windows would be ported to it in order to serve the large Chinese 
 >> market.? >> d) Tru64 customers (those still standing) would have a home. G >> e) Can you say in your best Carl Sagan voice, "Billions and billions  >> of Alpha cpu's at low cost"?  > A > And if they were clear thinking they would also throw in the PC G > business. I recently played golf with a former CEO of Intel's biggest  > rival and B > we were talking about HP and IBM and I essentially said the sameF > thing, to which he responded, what would left?  I said higher margin7 > business like VMS.  He only looked quizzically at me.     E In the PC business all HP really supplies are the logo's and the user K manual. The rest (including the system design and manufacturing) is usually I supplied by Compal, Quanta, or one of the other 3 major OEM manufacturers  based in Taiwan or China.   K Come to think of it, I'd probably be happier buying a Compal-branded laptop F than an HP one because the price would be lower for the same thing (noH middleman) and those guys can outsource the tech support call centers to" India just a well as HP can do it.   --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:45 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?, Message-ID: <ZtCdne13SMy2bvHfRVn-2w@igs.net>   Alan Greig wrote:  > Alan Greig wrote:  > H >> And check the SAP benchmark site for comparisons with Itanic and XeonE >> http://www50.sap.com/benchmark/sd2tier.asp which show the new dual H >> core Opteron s outperforming Xeons by around 2:1 and roughly matching$ >> Itanium 2 at the same core count. > F > Oops misread a line. The latest SAP HP benchmarks show the dual coreD > Opteron outperforming Itanic by around 50% at the same core count.     This  I HP Integrity Model rx7620-16, 16-way SMP, 8 HP mx2 dual-processor modules K with 1.1 GHz Itanium 2 processors 1.1 GHz, 32 KB L1 cache, 256 KB L2 cache, : 4 MB L3 cache per processor, and 32 MB L4 cache per module  ? is only about 15% faster (203000 lph vs. 178000 lph) than this:   K HP ProLiant DL585, 4-way SMP, Dual-core AMD Opteron processor Model 875 2.2 # GHz, 128 KB L1 cache, 1 MB L2 cache   9 Both were running Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2000  --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:55:59 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) ' Subject: Re: DCL File directory browser 3 Message-ID: <aOuIq21INxLu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <RFEae.4846$lz1.3958@lakeread01>, "stinehelferw" <stinehelferw@cox.net> writes:? > Has anyone found a way to use DCL to browse a file directory?   >    Sure 'nough.  I think you'll find examples on the freeware.  N > I'm thinking C is a much better idea, but thought I'd check as I have a menu8 > of DCL utilities that this would be incorporated into.  #    Anything is a btter idea than C.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:44:48 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) @ Subject: Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder3 Message-ID: <+$b148KryyU4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ^ In article <6aoj61heciqi3gfkl0kclib1hiog4qha03@4ax.com>, Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> writes: > 4 > Namely, I wanted to judge the suitability of using< > the rx1620 for VMS development, out to 2-3 years from now. >  > thoughts/comments?  F    2-3 years?  OK, I know HP isn't DEC, but it took well over a decadeJ    before VMS enineering stopped trying to fit VMS on the original 11/780.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:24:40 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> @ Subject: Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder, Message-ID: <ca-dnZtlEcs-cvHfRVn-sQ@igs.net>   Joe Bloggs wrote: G > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:11:53 -0400, "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>  > wrote: > F >> The following info may be of interest to those on this list server: >>K >> http://h21007.www2.hp.com/dspp/bus/bus_BusDetailPage_IDX/1,1252,6045,00.  >> html  >> >> [extract from url]  >> ...H >> Purchase a specially priced rx1620 HP Integrity server for $2,000 andD >> you receive everything you need to complete the migration of yourG >> products to the performance-leading, industry-standard architecture. A >> Beyond the HP Integrity server, this package includes training E >> delivered by engineers who have provided the foundation of support > >> for developer adoption of Itanium(r) and share not only theD >> fundamentals, but the insider tips on how to smoothly migrate you >> application. ...  > 4 > Can anyone speak to the (planned) product lifetime > for the rx1620, versus VMS?  > - > is the rx1620 likely to be supported on VMS @ > only for 1 or 2 more dot-releases?  or otoh, longer than that? > 4 > Namely, I wanted to judge the suitability of using< > the rx1620 for VMS development, out to 2-3 years from now. >  > thoughts/comments?    I That would probably depend on your assessment of the viability of Itanium ? itself for the next 2 years more than the box it's packaged in.    --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:22:22 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> B Subject: Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMS, Message-ID: <ca-dnZhlEcs-cvHfRVn-sQ@igs.net>   Alan Greig wrote: E > Thanks to the Inquirer I've just noticed HP is selling the HP R4000 H > laptop with Athlon 64 3200+ for approx $1000. This should also be ableE > to handle the two core mobile Athlon 64 when launched with a simple  > BIOS upgrade.  > G > Another HP offering that would make a damn fine VMS system if not for 1 > the slight inconvenience of the lack of a port.  > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22749  > L http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=compL uter_store&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&series_name=R4000_series&catLe vel=2&tab_switch=true&tab=specs       L Hadn't you heard.....according to Microsoft the 64-bit era begins today.....  L http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2265&ncid=738&e=11&u=/infowo rld/20050425/tc_infoworld/59003     L HP's probably been under some contractual restriction to refrain porting VMSG to a 'mainstream' platform until Microsoft has the lead in shipments of  64-bit operating systems.  :-(   --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 06:35:54 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> B Subject: Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMS( Message-ID: <opspsip4emzgicya@hyrrokkin>  H On 24 Apr 2005 13:51:20 -0700, Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> wrote:   > E > Thanks to the Inquirer I've just noticed HP is selling the HP R4000 H > laptop with Athlon 64 3200+ for approx $1000. This should also be ableE > to handle the two core mobile Athlon 64 when launched with a simple  > BIOS upgrade.  > G > Another HP offering that would make a damn fine VMS system if not for 1 > the slight inconvenience of the lack of a port.   	 Emulator?    > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22749 J > http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeNa... >    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 08:45:28 -0700 From: jordan@ccs4vms.comB Subject: Re: HP Athlon 64 laptop for $1000 - oh if only it ran VMSC Message-ID: <1114443928.521093.220290@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Alan Greig wrote: E > Thanks to the Inquirer I've just noticed HP is selling the HP R4000 C > laptop with Athlon 64 3200+ for approx $1000. This should also be  ableE > to handle the two core mobile Athlon 64 when launched with a simple  > BIOS upgrade.  > G > Another HP offering that would make a damn fine VMS system if not for 1 > the slight inconvenience of the lack of a port.   G Of course back when the Alpha was killed we were regaled with fantasies B of inexpensive (because they were the "Industry Standard") itaniumB systems that would finally push VMS into more affordable ranges onA non-proprietary hardware. Even laptops were discussed as probable D options down the road when they got the heat and power demands down.  C No port would have been required because it would have already been  done.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:00:33 -0500 ( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com> Subject: Re: Legato NetWorker / Message-ID: <00A42CF5.5242BA80.3@tachysoft.com>   & >Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:02:15 -0700 >Subject: Re: Legato NetWorker) >From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>  >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms0 >Message-ID: <BE91B9D7.CA64%roktsci@comcast.net> >MIME-Version: 1.0   > F >On 4/24/05 2:22 PM, in article 426C0E17.6EAF95F@comcast.net, "David J- >Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:  >  >> Jeff Cameron wrote:
 >>> [snip]' >>> But DR is, and will remain, a pain.  >>  % >> What is backup for, if not for DR?  >>  B >> In context, I'd consider the loss of even a single file to be a) >> "disaster", albeit on a limited scale. H >I too consider the loss of a single file to be DR in a form, but in the* >industry there are two types of Restores: > J >DR - Which implies full file system or mount-point restore, most commonlyL >due to failure of equipment. Also any loss of the backup system database is >considered DR.  > K >UR - User restore (which we sometimes call SE or Stupidity Restore) when a D >user (most often management) deletes something they shouldn't have.    L tapesys supports both restore modes -- full disk restore and individual fileJ restore.  The latter is the purpose of the history files.  These allow theO system manager to find the tape containing a particular version of a particular F file almost instantly and restore that one file, all in one operation.  M Full disk restore uses a different mechanism.  It searches the backup summary O files for the desired disk to locate the backup tape containing the most recent  version.O =============================================================================== N Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html    O =============================================================================== P Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy that."   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 01:49:28 -0700+ From: "nutznbolz" <anirban.maiti@gmail.com>  Subject: Re: Login mysteryC Message-ID: <1114418968.794128.220000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    :-) ... No comments    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 05:11:32 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: Login mystery3 Message-ID: <sR$V1wnIWEd8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <1114418968.794128.220000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "nutznbolz" <anirban.maiti@gmail.com> writes:  > :-) ... No comments   > Please make an effort to post context indicating that to which7 you are replying.  To do otherwise assumes that either:   2 	Nobody reads a thread until you have posted to it   or4 	Everybody uses the same newsreader software you do.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:42:14 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: Login mystery3 Message-ID: <1MeN0D$hAcz6@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <d4bn42$i2o$1@news01.intel.com>, Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> writes: > Bob Koehler wrote:  ; >>    You haven't yet realized MC is a unique abbreviation?  > , >      Where's the smiley, Bob?  Of course.          	 8-)    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:57:22 -0700 From: Kevin.R.Morris@gmail.com. Subject: MySQL and PHP Authentication ProtocolB Message-ID: <1114441042.063198.25500@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  	 VMS 7.3.2 	 TCPIP 5.4  CWS (Apache) 2.0	 CWS 1.2-1   C What version of MySQL does the new PHP MySQL extensions support? My G version of MySQL (4.1.9) does not talk with lastest version of CSWS_PHP G (1.2-1).  I have uncommented out the MySQL extension in PHP.INI and the F PHP script seems to acknowlege that it was trying to talk to the MySQL- sever but I get the following error messages: 
 ------------- @ Warning: mysql_connect(): Client does not support authentication@ protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client in7 /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 48   C Warning: mysql_error(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link D resource in /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 330  C Warning: mysql_errno(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link D resource in /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 331 phpBB : Critical Error  ! Could not connect to the database 
 -------------   A I am using JFP-AXPVMS-MYSQL-V0401-9-1.PCSI as my souce for MySQL. . NOTE: A packaged MySQL from HP would be great.  - MySQL required following packages to install: % JFP-AXPVMS-OPENSSL097E-V0102-0-1.PCSI  JFP-AXPVMS-ZLIB-V0102-2-1.PCSI   Thanks,  Kevin Morris   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:10:15 -0400 6 From: Brad Hamilton <braMdhamAiltPonS@comMcasAt.nPeSt>2 Subject: Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol0 Message-ID: <9fadnXNYo6DqufDfRVn-vw@comcast.com>   Kevin.R.Morris@gmail.com wrote:  > VMS 7.3.2  > TCPIP 5.4  > CWS (Apache) 2.0 > CWS 1.2-1  > E > What version of MySQL does the new PHP MySQL extensions support? My I > version of MySQL (4.1.9) does not talk with lastest version of CSWS_PHP I > (1.2-1).  I have uncommented out the MySQL extension in PHP.INI and the H > PHP script seems to acknowlege that it was trying to talk to the MySQL/ > sever but I get the following error messages:  > ------------- B > Warning: mysql_connect(): Client does not support authenticationB > protocol requested by server; consider upgrading MySQL client in9 > /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 48  > E > Warning: mysql_error(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link F > resource in /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 330 > E > Warning: mysql_errno(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link F > resource in /apache$specific/htdocs/phpbb2/db/mysql4.php on line 331 > phpBB : Critical Error > # > Could not connect to the database  > -------------  > C > I am using JFP-AXPVMS-MYSQL-V0401-9-1.PCSI as my souce for MySQL. 0 > NOTE: A packaged MySQL from HP would be great. > / > MySQL required following packages to install: ' > JFP-AXPVMS-OPENSSL097E-V0102-0-1.PCSI   > JFP-AXPVMS-ZLIB-V0102-2-1.PCSI > 	 > Thanks,  > Kevin Morris >   D If you don't get an answer here, you might try the VAMP board (VMS,  Apache, MySQL, PHP):  - http://www.issinoho.com:8080/phpbb2/index.php    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 10:10:29 -0700 From: Kevin.R.Morris@gmail.com2 Subject: Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication ProtocolC Message-ID: <1114449029.802319.325500@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   ' The answer to my question was found at:   1 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html    Cheers   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:28:26 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>% Subject: New SKD|SKC|SKHPCs available ? Message-ID: <KU8be.110070$QB6.4545043@twister.southeast.rr.com>   K Many new SKD|SKC|SKHPCs have been made available for your reading pleasure.    http://www.ShannonKnowsHPC.com  I Archives are listed in left corner on website or click on URL under year.      Ken   % _____________________________________ " Kenneth R. Farmer <>< 336-736-7376/ http://www.OpenVMS.org | http://dcl.OpenVMS.org              -----------------------  19962 http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/pages.php?page=1996  L SKDV3N18 September 18, 1996 - DEC's Strategy Briefing: The Song Remains the 7 Same; R.I.P. 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Entertainment Strategy, G That Is; HP Launches Pre-emptive Strike Against Dell Printer Initiative   ? SKHPCV11N3 January 12, 2004 - ProLiant's Progress: A Decade of  H Standards-Based Success, HP's ISS Offers an Update on Industry-Standard  Developments  K SKHPCV11N4 January 15, 2004 - Linux Looms Large at Hewlett-Packard, Novell  - Climbs on the Linux Indemnification Bandwagon   M SKHPCV11N5 January 22, 2004 - HP Hosts a Storage and Server-Centric Industry   Analyst Summit  L SKHPCV11N6 January 28, 2004 - HP ProCurve Networking Grants General Mills a F Leading EDGE, HP's Purported Opteron Option Poses No Threat to Itanium  C SKHPCV11N7 February 1, 2004 - HP Blades and Citrix Software Help a  I Healthcare Provider, Linix Litigration Looms Large as SCO Files a Second   Lawsuit   M SKHPCV11N8 February 4, 2004 - HP Announces Two More Acquisitions to Boost AE  5 Strategy, HP Extends Participation in U.S. Space Race   G SKHPCV11N9 February 13, 2004 - New HP Servers and Storage Portend HP's  L Standards Shift, New HP Advertising Campaign Stresses Standards and Change, : Graphic Artists Gain From New HP Products and Technologies  G SKHPCV11N10 February 19, 2004 - Spring 2004 IDF: An HP-Centric Take on  F Intel's Frisco Frolic, HP Pictures Profit Potential in New Photosmart  Digital Cameras   J SKHPCV11N11 February 21, 2004 - HP Brings Home its 1FQ04 Financial Report  Card  I SKHPCV11N12 March 1, 2004 - HP Opts for Opteron for 64-bit Architectural  I Extension Support, No Blunder Down Under as SKHPC Helps HP & Encompass Oz   G SKHPCV11N13 March 6, 2004 - Hated But "Honest" SCO Group Unleashes the  J Lawyers of War, HP and EMC Offer Competitive Spins on Storage and Software  L SKHPCV11N14 March 10, 2004 - HP Grapples With the Grid, NonStop MIA from HP J Grid Strategy, HP HPC Leadership Threatened by IBM... and Apple and Linux  NetworX   C SKHPCV11N15 March 12, 2004 - HP Increases Focus on Digital Content  J Management Initiative, HP Announces its Sixth AE-Related Software Company  Acquisition   G SKHPCV11N16 March 15, 2004 - HP Hosts an Adaptive Enterprise Summit in  D Boston; Microsoft and SCO: Fast Friends, and Potential Conspirators?  L SKHPCV11N17 March 23, 2004 - HP Smartens Up Smart Office Intiative with New ; Offerings, HP Stockholders' Meeting: Re-election and Revolt   H SKHPCV11N18 April 1, 2004 Special "Shannon Knows Stuff" April Fools Day I Issue: HP Inks World's Largest Outsourcing Contract with Microsoft in an   Alternate Universe  H SKHPCV11N19 April 4, 2004 - Sun Signs Pact With Arch-Rival, Faces Bleak  Fiancial Future   M SKHPCV11N20 April 10, 2004 - AN x86 Extensions Reality Check: Facts From the  + SKHPC No-Rumour Zone (2-page special issue)   H SKHPCV11N21 April 15, 2004 - WHY IPF ... and WHY HP: The Facts Behind a , Critical CPU Strategy (6-page special issue)  M SKHPCV11N22 April 18, 2004 - SCO Group: Lots More Stagger, Lots Less Swagger  C These Days, Funeral for A Friend (A Tribute to the Life of OpenVMS   Ambassador John Wisniewski)   L SKHPCV11N23 April 20, 2004 - SKHPC Heads North by Northeast for CTUG Annual M Symposium; UltraSPARC V Cancelled, Sun Between Rocks and a Hard Place?; Holy  7 Hormel! Happy SPAMiversary, Cybercitizens of the World!   I SKHPCV11N24 May 8, 2004 - SKHPC Visits Munich, Germany to Participate in  M ENSA@WORK; Intel, et al, Get To Work Getting the Lead Out of Their Products;  < Sun's Anticipated 3FQ04 Loss Precipitates Unexpected Changes   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 05:02:29 -0700 From: pdafniotis@yahoo.com5 Subject: Qt 3.x for OpenVMS; any news on availability C Message-ID: <1114430549.753734.100000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   > As subject says. This topic was discussed in July 2004 when an> individual made the port which was supposed to be available by= Trolltech in the "Free" zone of Qt. Are there any news on the  availability / timing?   Thank you and kind regards,    Petros ---  Petros Dafniotis, PhD  pdafniotis@yahoo.com   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 06:58:02 -0700" From: "tolik" <khusid@ulticom.com>8 Subject: RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returnsC Message-ID: <1114437482.086050.225600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Hello,  4 I am using raw ip sockets on OpenVMS ULTI02 0 V7.3-2 AlphaServer_800_5/500 Alpha.C I have a server program (server.c) on VMS box, and a client program C (client.c) on Linux side.  My client program sends a message to VMS D box, but recvfrom() on VMS never returns.  I took the server programF from VMS box and compiled it on Solaris , and it worked.  Do I need to@ do any other network configuration on VMS box to make sure my IP% protocol number is recognized by VMS? ) Here are the programs for your reference:  ///////////////  // client.c  //  ////////////// #include<stdio.h>  #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/socket.h>  #include <linux/in.h>  #include <stdint.h>  #include <linux/ip.h>      #define PROTOCOL 132 //////////// // client//  ///////////  int  main(int argc, char **argv)  {          char buf[128];         int fd, n, tolen;          struct sockaddr_in sin;          struct msghdr msg;         char addr[128];          struct iovec iov;          char *echo;                if ( argc != 3 )	         { F                 printf("%s: <ip_addr> <string>\n", argv[0] ); exit(1);	         }          echo = argv[2];          strcpy(buf, echo );          iov.iov_base = buf; &         iov.iov_len = strlen(buf) + 1;    >         if ( (fd = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_RAW, PROTOCOL)) == -1)	         { )                 perror("socket");exit(1); 	         } &         memset(&sin, 0, sizeof(sin) );!         sin.sin_family = AF_INET; D         if ( bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(sin) ) == -1 )	         { '                 perror("bind");exit(1); 	         }   %         memset(&sin, 0, sizeof(sin)); &         sin.sin_family      = AF_INET;1         sin.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(argv[1]); &         memset(&msg, 0, sizeof(msg) );         msg.msg_name = &sin;&         msg.msg_namelen = sizeof(sin);         msg.msg_iov = &iov;          msg.msg_iovlen = 1;   >         printf("sending request [%s] to %s\n", buf, argv[1] );)         if ( sendmsg(fd, &msg, 0) == -1 ) 	         { *                 perror("sendmsg");exit(1);	         }   $         memset(buf, 0, sizeof(buf));         tolen = sizeof(sin);-         n = recvfrom(fd, buf, sizeof(buf), 0, 6                      (struct sockaddr *)&sin, &tolen);         if (n < 0)	         { +                 perror("recvfrom");exit(1); 	         } @         inet_ntop(AF_INET, &sin.sin_addr, addr, sizeof(addr)  );9         char *pmsg = (char *) buf + sizeof(struct iphdr); 7         printf("recieved [%s] from %s\n", pmsg, addr );  }    ////////////// // server.c // ////////////// include <stdio.h>  #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/socket.h>  #if defined(sun) #include<netinet/in.h> #elif defined(linux) #include <stdint.h>  #include<linux/in.h> #endif #ifdef OVMS  #include<stdlib.h> #include<netinet/in.h> #include<memory.h> #include<strings.h>  #include<inet.h> #endif   #define PROTOCOL 132 //////////// // server//  ///////////  int  main(int argc, char **argv)  {          char buf[128];         int fd, n, fromlen;3%         struct sockaddr_in sin, from;n         struct msghdr msg;         char addr[128];E         struct iovec iov;c         char *pmsg;l           iov.iov_base = buf;C"         iov.iov_len = sizeof(buf);  >         if ( (fd = socket(PF_INET, SOCK_RAW, PROTOCOL)) == -1)	         {e)                 perror("socket");exit(1);o	         }a&         memset(&sin, 0, sizeof(sin) );!         sin.sin_family = AF_INET; D         if ( bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&sin, sizeof(sin) ) == -1 )	         {o'                 perror("bind");exit(1); 	         }o%         printf("socket & bind OK\n");t         while(1)	         {Q,                 printf("before recvfrom\n");,                 memset(buf, 0, sizeof(buf));'                 fromlen = sizeof(from);K5                 n = recvfrom(fd, buf, sizeof(buf), 0,iA                              (struct sockaddr *)&from, &fromlen);                  if (n < 0)                 {e3                         perror("recvfrom");exit(1);e                 }/  E                 inet_ntop(AF_INET, &from.sin_addr, addr, sizeof(addr)e );/                 char *pmsg = (char *) buf + 20;s?                 printf("recieved [%s] from %s\n", pmsg, addr );V                 // now echo it!t.                 memset(&msg, 0, sizeof(msg) );                 char tmp[128];2                 sprintf(tmp, "%s:%s", pmsg, addr);  #                 iov.iov_base = tmp;u.                 iov.iov_len = strlen(tmp) + 1;  -                 msg.msg_name = (char *)&from;K/                 msg.msg_namelen = sizeof(from);a#                 msg.msg_iov = &iov; #                 msg.msg_iovlen = 1;t1                 if ( sendmsg(fd, &msg, 0) == -1 )m                 {s2                         perror("sendmsg");exit(1);                 }p  7                 printf("sent [%s] to %s\n", tmp, addr);p	         }            return 0;- }-     Example: 1. compile server on VMS: = gcc -o serv -DOVMS -D_DECC_V4_SOURCE -D_SOCKADDR_LEN server.cu 2. Start server: bash$ ./serv socket & bind OK before recvfroms   (Client - Linux side ) 1. Compile client  gcc client.c 2. Start client: # ./a.out 172.25.5.80 helloi2 sending request [hello] to <ip_addr_of_the_server>  5 Observe that recvfrom never returns on a server side.o   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 08:49:34 -0700" From: "tolik" <khusid@ulticom.com>< Subject: Re: RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returnsB Message-ID: <1114444174.643752.30010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   Hi, please see my comments.u  > >Well, on my system Your code simply doesn't compile, too many	 errors... E What are the errors are you getting? Did you use this line to compile  server? >  gcc -o serv -DOVMS -D_DECC_V4_SOURCE -D_SOCKADDR_LEN server.c    : > 1. there is no port specified, neither on the client nor<  > on the server side. Maybe solaris has a default, VMS not.E That's correct, port is set to zero by prior memset.  Port number has0 no meaning for RAW IP sockets.  5 >'m not sure a bind-receive sequence is enough on VMS?3  > if specifying a port does not solve the problem,t#  >try to extend the server side to:oG  >  bind - listen - accept, receive/send only after successfull accept.n  * listen and accept on raw IP sockets? :-) ?E Network layer is connection-less, unlike your typical transport layers (TCP for example).   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 08:54:05 -0700" From: "tolik" <khusid@ulticom.com>< Subject: Re: RAW IP socket problem, recvfrom() never returnsC Message-ID: <1114444444.977939.151240@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>a  D I think 1st include is missing # when I copied pasted these programs   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:48:55 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)i  Subject: Re: Slow Filesystem I/O3 Message-ID: <V+D$KSnym2Eh@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <3dd11af5.0504230711.4edaa421@posting.google.com>, ksidibaba@gmail.com (ksidibaba) writes:eG > Working for the first time on an openVMS system, I found the file I/O A > performance to be extremly slow compared to a wintel notebook.    F    In VMS when you write data to a disk, it's ON the disk.  By defaultB    VMS does not cache large amounts of data in RAM.  This can be a9    performance hit, but provides world class reliability.s  E    You can tell your application to buffer data, either via file openaG    parameters, or DCL's "set rms" command.  The latter is easier to get-    at when using Java.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:50:27 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e  Subject: Re: Slow Filesystem I/O3 Message-ID: <jAfnyqz$b4xW@eisner.encompasserve.org>0  \ In article <ui0n61hvoj3asl9t8qejd7frpahgg43cpk@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes: > M > I think that you are playing with semantics here. Compare & contrast a copygP > operation to a USB memory stick. If I yank it out as soon as I get the commandO > prompt back there is a good chance that under Windows my files are corrupt or * > incomplete. This is not true of OpenVMS.  H    You show me a VMS system which can access a USB memory stick and I'll"    be more than happy to try that.    l   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:52:45 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)r  Subject: Re: Slow Filesystem I/O3 Message-ID: <24xGylcV4xfC@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  ^ In article <slrnd6nk9v.78k.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>, Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> writes: > E > That's a shame (Spiralog). Wonder why then-DEC dropped it if it wasa > pretty good?  D    They dropped it because it didn't work.  You could get impressiveD    speed in laboratory conditions.  In the real world you didn't.  AC    nasty problem showed up and there was no real justification for i/    fixing it with no real benefit to customers.i      n   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:17:22 GMTe! From: Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com>)  Subject: Re: Slow Filesystem I/O8 Message-ID: <ahsp61d1fscbjhvruar6sgqpo90f67c4b0@4ax.com>  K On 25 Apr 2005 07:50:27 -0500, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bobg Koehler) wrote:-  ] >In article <ui0n61hvoj3asl9t8qejd7frpahgg43cpk@4ax.com>, Nigel Barker <nigel@hp.com> writes:y >> cN >> I think that you are playing with semantics here. Compare & contrast a copyQ >> operation to a USB memory stick. If I yank it out as soon as I get the commandkP >> prompt back there is a good chance that under Windows my files are corrupt or+ >> incomplete. This is not true of OpenVMS.e > I >   You show me a VMS system which can access a USB memory stick and I'llh# >   be more than happy to try that.d  M The only systems with supported ports are the Marvels & the Itanium machines. N However if you have a PCI USB card with the correct chip set then it will workN just fine in older machines. For example I have a 4-port card in my DS10. MostP memory sticks can be used just like any other disk so you can INIT, COPY, BACKUP etc    -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur0   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 09:54:39 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)   Subject: Re: Slow Filesystem I/O3 Message-ID: <pEz7dQgOztUd@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  q In article <24xGylcV4xfC@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:-` > In article <slrnd6nk9v.78k.usenet@gaia.roc2.gblx.net>, Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> writes: >> lF >> That's a shame (Spiralog). Wonder why then-DEC dropped it if it was >> pretty good?s > F >    They dropped it because it didn't work.  You could get impressiveF >    speed in laboratory conditions.  In the real world you didn't.  AE >    nasty problem showed up and there was no real justification for  1 >    fixing it with no real benefit to customers.e  5 Spiralog was an ideal concept for write-mostly files.u  C When they started talking about it at DECUS some of us wondered whor6 had write-mostly applications.  Apparently nobody did.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 07:13:55 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>l3 Subject: Stock market mergers ? a VMS slant to it ?KB Message-ID: <1114427640.b97cbf10b1d0b61dddc190535ac91381@teranews>  ? Last week, the NYSE announced a merger with Archipelago. NASDAQ H announced it was buying Instinet from Reuters. (Reuteurs is/used to be a big VMS customer BTW).  ? Does anyone know if Archipelago and/or Instinet had a large VMSkG investments ? Any news on how their absorbsion into their bigger rivalsg will do to their VMS systems ?   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 07:15:40 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org* Subject: Re: What is SMTP status code 556?3 Message-ID: <2hCDxGvUl8gi@eisner.encompasserve.org>   j In article <Pine.LNX.4.62.0504182122380.73@kd6lvw.ampr.org>, "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org> writes:, > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Lawrence Bleau wrote: [snip]4 >> Does anyone know what SMTP status code 556 means? > P > It means that you should report that system to rfc-ignorant.org.  556 is not aQ > valid defined code in RFC 2822 (which is current).  I know of no subsequent RFCr0 > or other standard which has added such a code.  B RFC 2822 is irrelevant.  It describes message format, not transfer	 protocol.p  1 RFC 2821 is the controlling document.  It states:   A    An SMTP server SHOULD send only the reply codes listed in this>F    document.  An SMTP server SHOULD use the text shown in the examples    whenever appropriate.  F 556 is not one of the listed codes.  In the language of the RFC's, the? "SHOULD" means that use of code 556 is allowed but discouraged.n   	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 18:35:43 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)? Subject: [ECP V5.5A] Unrecognized ECP/Collect data file versiony* Message-ID: <426d387f@news.langstoeger.at>  A Since I upgraded ECP from V5.5 to V5.5A, I noted a little problem 8 (which most likely existed before, but I haven't noted).   1) ECP$PERF_DATA on ODS5 Diskt= 2) CPC File written during startup (@ECP$LIBRARY:ECP$MANAGER)a   $ DIRECTORY/SINCEM  % Directory DISK$VMSSYS:[ECP$PERF_DATA]   1 LUNA_2005APR25_1.cpc;1				<--- note the lowercase-   Total of 1 file, 4471 blocks.0G $! ECP doesn't like lowercase in filenames (with strange error message) 4 $ PLAN ANA/CPC_VMS_FILE=LUNA_2005APR25_1.CPC/ANA=X.XP  Enterprise Capacity Performance Analyzer V5.5A-25 (c) 1997, 2005 Hewlett-Packar1 d Development Company, L.P., All Rights Reserved.07 ECP-WARNING  Unrecognized ECP/Collect data file versions9 $! And though it tells WARNING it aborts and does nothing6( $! Even in GUI (/MOTIF) the same problem, $! Rename file to all uppercase and it works6 $ RENAME/LOG LUNA_2005APR25_1.CPC LUNA_2005APR25_1.CPCO %RENAME-I-RENAMED, DISK$VMSSYS:[ECP$PERF_DATA]LUNA_2005APR25_1.cpc;1 renamed to41 DISK$VMSSYS:[ECP$PERF_DATA]LUNA_2005APR25_1.CPC;1c4 $! But how to rename the file while you are in GUI ?4 $ PLAN ANA/CPC_VMS_FILE=LUNA_2005APR25_1.CPC/ANA=X.XP  Enterprise Capacity Performance Analyzer V5.5A-25 (c) 1997, 2005 Hewlett-Packar1 d Development Company, L.P., All Rights Reserved.o# ECP-INFO  ECP/Analyze processing...=/ ECP-INFO  Writing ECP/Analyze report to x.x ...o   This leads to the questions:  ; 1) Why is the filename case important ? (bad programming ?) L 2) Is the startup process in extended parse style ? (haven't noticed before)5 3) Did anybody of you already notice (and told HPQ) ?d  C Fix is to replace ".cpc" with ".CPC" in ECP$LIBRARY:ECP$MANAGER.COM-% of course, but will HPQ fix it, too ?    -EPLAN   -- 0 Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER@% Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.230 ************************