1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 26 Apr 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 231       Contents:P 1220 monografia monografias teses =?ISO-8859-1?Q?disserta=E7=F5es?= trabalhos esP 4003 monografia =?ISO-8859-1?Q?administra=E7=E3o?= - monografia direito 4003 dir Re: BN21H-1E cable7 Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation? 7 Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: Could a PC do this?  Re: DCL File directory browser Re: DCL File directory browser Re: DCL File directory browser0 How to install DCPS 2.4 without stopping queues?4 Re: How to install DCPS 2.4 without stopping queues?7 Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder  Re: Legato NetWorker) Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol P Re: OpenVMS I64 Integrity Platform Support (was Re: HP and IntelR Developer Work  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:10:51 +0100 * From: "monografia " <monografia@xfdgr.com>Y Subject: 1220 monografia monografias teses =?ISO-8859-1?Q?disserta=E7=F5es?= trabalhos es > Message-ID: <DDAC168FB5C09749AD96D27804CA35D105AC8159@SETUBAL>  0       Monografias completas a partir de 250,00 !    D   monografia administrao direito turismo economia letras pedagogia   monografias teses  tese.  ! Sua monografia a partir de 250,00  http://monografiadireta.rg3.net    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 04:10:47 +0100 * From: "monografia " <monografia@xfdgr.com>Y Subject: 4003 monografia =?ISO-8859-1?Q?administra=E7=E3o?= - monografia direito 4003 dir > Message-ID: <DDAC168FB5C09749AD96D27804CA35D105ACE18C@SETUBAL>  ,   Monografias completas a partir de 250,00 !    D   monografia administrao direito turismo economia letras pedagogia   monografias teses  tese.  ! Sua monografia a partir de 250,00  http://monografiadireta.rg3.net    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:34:05 -0400 , From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> Subject: Re: BN21H-1E cable , Message-ID: <426c8f41$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   From the wizard cable guide:1 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/cable-guide.html    you can have up to 15 meters...    BN21H SCSI Cable   BN21H   I Description: SCSI cable used for 8-bit single-ended communications. 8-bit 6 single-ended SCSI cables are also known as "A" cables.  L Connectors Two 50-way high density Honda male, straight, with thumb latches.  
 Typical Usage   * 1. To interconnect adjacent BA350 shelves.0 2. To daisy-chain BA353 Desktop Expansion boxes.G 3. To connect the HSJ40 shelf to an SBB shelf in a data centre cabinet. 4 4. To connect BA350 shelves to certain host systems.L 5. To connect HSC9X-SX HSC SCSI Data Channels, via the bulkhead I/O panel to& a BA350 shelf within that HSC cabinet.   Ordering Information  F BN21H-0C (0.3m), BN21H-0E (0.5m), BN21H-01, BN21H-1E (1.5m), BN21H-02, BN21H-03, BN21H-05. , (17-03566-18, -09, -16, -17, -15, -10, -11).    5 "Javier Henderson" <javier@KJSL.COM> wrote in message ' news:8664yb21ub.fsf@skylane.kjsl.com...  > Couple of questions... > F > Where can I get a BN21H-1E cable at a good price? This is purely for > personal/hobby use.  > G > Are there longer versions of this cable? If I was to get enterprising , > and make my own, can it be, say, 10' long? > 	 > Thanks.  >  > -jav   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:26:05 -0700 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com>@ Subject: Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?+ Message-ID: <d4jjot$e5d$1@news01.intel.com>    Keith A. Lewis wrote:  > Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> writes in article <d4bi0n$f9e$1@news01.intel.com> dated Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:07:03 -0700:  > E >>    "... do you, or does anyone, know how to add custom backgrounds G >>     to CDE?  Where do they live and what format are they (jpeg, bpm,  >>     gif, etc.)?"  >>D >>Can anyone provide an answer to that question?  Can aynone suggestA >>a good starting point to learn about custom CDE (as implemented  >>under DECwindows)? >  > 6 > Sorry I missed that question last time you asked it. > M > Have a look in SYS$COMMON:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.BACKDROPS]; it's full of .PM  > and .BM files. > / > http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=PM  > "X Window PixelMap Bitmap" > 2 > --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org@ > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.  ? Ah ha!  A useful answer.  And here I thought all I'd managed to 7 do was start another flame war! ;-p   Thanks Keith. :-)    	-Ken  --  6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfield ! D1C Automation VMS System Support " who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Apr 2005 05:43:43 GMT2 From: "Dave Weatherall" <djw-nothere@nospam.nohow>@ Subject: Re: CDE under DECwindows: customization, documentation?? Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-8iWyOhOws3GJ@dave2_os2.home.ours>   F On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:01:41 UTC, issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> wrote:   > Ken Fairfield wrote: > >     Thanks, Ken  > A > I can't help but agree, it's an incredibly hostile environment. G > And why, please someone explain, is it still referred to as the "New  F > Desktop Environment" a full 10 years after it first appeared and is 0 > probably the only OS that still ships with it.H > It's no wonder we're considered a legagcy OS: where is KDE, Gnome, or % > GOD FORBID a newer proprietary GUI.     D That"ll be the New New Desktop. Actually using New and Old in these   contexts is one of my pet hates.   --   Cheers - Dave W.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 14:32:05 -0700* From: "Alan Greig" <greigaln@netscape.net>  Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?B Message-ID: <1114464725.291018.98910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   John Smith wrote:    > This > C > HP Integrity Model rx7620-16, 16-way SMP, 8 HP mx2 dual-processor  modules F > with 1.1 GHz Itanium 2 processors 1.1 GHz, 32 KB L1 cache, 256 KB L2 cache,< > 4 MB L3 cache per processor, and 32 MB L4 cache per module > A > is only about 15% faster (203000 lph vs. 178000 lph) than this:  > E > HP ProLiant DL585, 4-way SMP, Dual-core AMD Opteron processor Model  875 2.2 % > GHz, 128 KB L1 cache, 1 MB L2 cache  > ; > Both were running Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2000   A Indeed and as AMD support 8-way AMD64 dual processor (16 core) it D should outperform all but the very largest Itanium systems and grindD that 16 way Itanium system into the dust. Maybe that's why HP didn't* post the benchmark for that configuration.  F I wouldn't like to be an HP salesman trying to sell Itanium systems toF anything other than a captive market right now. Unless they hide their own benchmarks.    --  
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:30:50 -0400 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>   Subject: Re: Could a PC do this?, Message-ID: <k7SdneQoTrs7NfDfRVn-2w@igs.net>   Alan Greig wrote:  > John Smith wrote:  >  >> This  >>D >> HP Integrity Model rx7620-16, 16-way SMP, 8 HP mx2 dual-processorE >> modules with 1.1 GHz Itanium 2 processors 1.1 GHz, 32 KB L1 cache, G >> 256 KB L2 cache, 4 MB L3 cache per processor, and 32 MB L4 cache per 	 >> module  >>B >> is only about 15% faster (203000 lph vs. 178000 lph) than this: >>F >> HP ProLiant DL585, 4-way SMP, Dual-core AMD Opteron processor Model. >> 875 2.2 GHz, 128 KB L1 cache, 1 MB L2 cache >>< >> Both were running Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2000 > C > Indeed and as AMD support 8-way AMD64 dual processor (16 core) it F > should outperform all but the very largest Itanium systems and grindF > that 16 way Itanium system into the dust. Maybe that's why HP didn't, > post the benchmark for that configuration. > H > I wouldn't like to be an HP salesman trying to sell Itanium systems toH > anything other than a captive market right now. Unless they hide their > own benchmarks.       I Remind me again just how many billions Intel gave Compaq on June 25, 2001 G for killing Alpha and the right to use all Alpha intellectual property.  :-(      --F OpenVMS - The never advertised operating system with the dwindling ISV base.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:04:02 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) ' Subject: Re: DCL File directory browser 2 Message-ID: <Cabbe.4462$lw7.3588@news.cpqcorp.net>  Z In article <RFEae.4846$lz1.3958@lakeread01>, "stinehelferw" <stinehelferw@cox.net> writes:> :Has anyone found a way to use DCL to browse a file directory? : M :I'm thinking C is a much better idea, but thought I'd check as I have a menu 7 :of DCL utilities that this would be incorporated into.   D   I have a passing familiarity with C on OpenVMS as well as with DCLE   on OpenVMS, and -- for this task -- I would pick C (or C++) for the    implementation.     D   While a simple menu system most certainly could be implemented in D   DCL -- I've done it, and there are examples in the DCL ProgrammingB   Book I'd co-authored a while back -- there are some basic limitsD   within DCL around its asynchronous I/O capabilities, its access toD   keypresses and such, and its (general lack of) access into OpenVMSF   system interfaces for disk, file and screen management I/O and such.E   And as an interpreter, DCL will also very likely have comparatively    lower performance.  H   There are also menuing packages around, via the Freeware or otherwise.C   One organization was offering a free version of a commercial menu B   package for OpenVMS VAX, IIRC -- check the FAQ for some options.  F   Other options include CGI or DECwindows.  The former is easy to codeF   and can be accessed via a web browser (Lynx or a graphical browser),F   and the latter already offers FileView and various related X Windows   customization options.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:31:52 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ' Subject: Re: DCL File directory browser B Message-ID: <1114464711.7da09455b0ba6d24954e2739d7ae1528@teranews>   Hoff Hoffman wrote: F >   I have a passing familiarity with C on OpenVMS as well as with DCL   "Passing familiarity" ???????   : Are you being very humble, or brutally honest here ???????   :-) :-) :-) ;-) :-)    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 19:50:44 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.au' Subject: Re: DCL File directory browser C Message-ID: <1114483844.964533.279870@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   0 On http://vms.process.com/fileserv-software.html there is a file manager VTFM   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2005 12:29:32 -0700, From: "Larry Fahnoe" <fahnoe@fahnoetech.com>9 Subject: How to install DCPS 2.4 without stopping queues? C Message-ID: <1114457372.316850.294530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Hello,  A We have a DCPS cluster with high availability requirements around E printing.  A long time ago I set this cluster up so that all the DCPS F queues use /AUTOSTART_ON with multiple nodes per queue.  Each queue isG serviced by nodes in different datacenters with different system disks. G  In the past this has made DCPS upgrades transparent as I could migrate E printing to one node, upgrade DCPS on the idle node, and then reverse @ the process to upgrade the remaining node.  I never let the DCPS; upgrade stop all the queues as I was managing this process.   A Now, with the transition to the PCSI kit for DCPS 2.4 it looks as @ though I do not have the option to manage the queues myself as IG outlined above, and instead I'd have to shut printing down cluster wide F as I upgraded each system disk.  This is a problem for us and I'd like; to know if there is a way I can avoid the outage during the ! installation process.  Any hints?    --Larry    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:28:16 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> = Subject: Re: How to install DCPS 2.4 without stopping queues? B Message-ID: <1114464495.e0561ba037a451e8a1875af26a4a8b1f@teranews>   Larry Fahnoe wrote: C > Now, with the transition to the PCSI kit for DCPS 2.4 it looks as B > though I do not have the option to manage the queues myself as II > outlined above, and instead I'd have to shut printing down cluster wide # > as I upgraded each system disk.       = Extract the contents of the .PCSI package, and build your own @ installation procedure from the .pcsi script and various command) procedures that would be included inside.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:43:19 -0700 # From: Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> @ Subject: Re: HP and IntelR Developer Workshops Update / Reminder8 Message-ID: <99eq611sqilq4sq512ep14bbi2kac8dq6q@4ax.com>  F On 25 Apr 2005 07:44:48 -0500, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:  _ >In article <6aoj61heciqi3gfkl0kclib1hiog4qha03@4ax.com>, Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> writes:  >>  5 >> Namely, I wanted to judge the suitability of using = >> the rx1620 for VMS development, out to 2-3 years from now.  >>   >> thoughts/comments?  > G >   2-3 years?  OK, I know HP isn't DEC, but it took well over a decade K >   before VMS enineering stopped trying to fit VMS on the original 11/780.   1 right. was just wondering what folks thought the  A chances for the rx1620, to wind up 'unsupported' like the rx2600.   2 Would regard buying a rx1620 more favorably if we 8 could figure support by the next 2-3 newer VMS versions.  ' subject to future HP whims, of course.     ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:56:16 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Legato NetWorker / Message-ID: <BE92FBE0.CB2C%roktsci@comcast.net>   H On 4/25/05 6:00 AM, in article 00A42CF5.5242BA80.3@tachysoft.com, "Wayne$ Sewell" <wayne@tachysoft.com> wrote:  ( >> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:02:15 -0700  >> Subject: Re: Legato NetWorker+ >> From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>  >> X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms2 >> Message-ID: <BE91B9D7.CA64%roktsci@comcast.net> >> MIME-Version: 1.0 >  >>  H >> On 4/24/05 2:22 PM, in article 426C0E17.6EAF95F@comcast.net, "David J/ >> Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:  >>   >>> Jeff Cameron wrote:  >>>> [snip] ( >>>> But DR is, and will remain, a pain. >>> & >>> What is backup for, if not for DR? >>> C >>> In context, I'd consider the loss of even a single file to be a * >>> "disaster", albeit on a limited scale.J >> I too consider the loss of a single file to be DR in a form, but in the, >> industry there are two types of Restores: >>  L >> DR - Which implies full file system or mount-point restore, most commonlyN >> due to failure of equipment. Also any loss of the backup system database is >> considered DR.  >>  M >> UR - User restore (which we sometimes call SE or Stupidity Restore) when a F >> user (most often management) deletes something they shouldn't have. >  > N > tapesys supports both restore modes -- full disk restore and individual fileL > restore.  The latter is the purpose of the history files.  These allow theF > system manager to find the tape containing a particular version of a > particularH > file almost instantly and restore that one file, all in one operation. > K The biggest flaw with tapesys is that they provide their own hacked version H of Backup, so if a VMS patch comes out with a new backup.exe you have to) wait until tapesys hacks the new version.   K TapeControl achieves the same functionality by intercepting backup (as well K as initialize, mount and dismounts [dcl and system services]) doing what it L has to do to manage the tape volumes, then passes the operation onto the VMS native facility.  I Legato networker does the same too, but using open tape format instead of  VMS backup savesets.  O > Full disk restore uses a different mechanism.  It searches the backup summary J > files for the desired disk to locate the backup tape containing the most > recent
 > version. > O ==============================================================================>  = P > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com: > http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html > O ==============================================================================>  = K > Jake Blues:"You traded the Caddy for a microphone? ...... Okay, I can buy  > that."   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:31:59 +0100 # From: issinoho <issinoho@gmail.com> 2 Subject: Re: MySQL and PHP Authentication Protocol5 Message-ID: <1114453843.95864.0@despina.uk.clara.net>    Kevin.R.Morris@gmail.com wrote: ) > The answer to my question was found at:  > 3 > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html  >  > Cheers >   C Or here, http://www.issinoho.com:8080/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2  :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:27:32 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Y Subject: Re: OpenVMS I64 Integrity Platform Support (was Re: HP and IntelR Developer Work 2 Message-ID: <o9ebe.4491$HH7.2552@news.cpqcorp.net>  ^ In article <99eq611sqilq4sq512ep14bbi2kac8dq6q@4ax.com>, Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> writes:G :On 25 Apr 2005 07:44:48 -0500, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org  :(Bob Koehler) wrote:  : ` :>In article <6aoj61heciqi3gfkl0kclib1hiog4qha03@4ax.com>, Joe Bloggs <JBloggs@acme.com> writes: :>> 6 :>> Namely, I wanted to judge the suitability of using> :>> the rx1620 for VMS development, out to 2-3 years from now. :>>  :>> thoughts/comments? :>H :>   2-3 years?  OK, I know HP isn't DEC, but it took well over a decadeL :>   before VMS enineering stopped trying to fit VMS on the original 11/780. : 2 :right. was just wondering what folks thought the B :chances for the rx1620, to wind up 'unsupported' like the rx2600.  F   The Integrity rx2600 series platform is fully supported with OpenVMSE   I64, and I know of no plans to remove support for that or any other     currently-supported platforms.  F   The earliest generation(s) of the rx2600 series are not supported byG   OpenVMS, as it has the McKinley-class Intel Itanium CPUs, and OpenVMS E   I64 officially expects the Madison-class Itanium processors -- not  G   the 900 MHz McKinley-class processors that were found in the earliest E   generation(s) of the rx2600 platform, and that well predate OpenVMS $   support of the Integrity platform.  E   I do not immediately know of a processor upgrade here, but it would E   certainly not surprise me to learn that there is one; that there is F   a way to upgrade a McKinley-class rx2600 into a Madison-class rx2600G   processor configuration.  (For all I know, it may involve little more H   than upgrading the firmware to current and swapping out one or both ofG   the existing processors for newer processors.  But I don't know that,    off-hand.)  G   A new rx1620 with a week of training classes is currently listing for D   US$2K -- don't forget to periodically review and reset your mentalH   model of systems, upgrades, performance and of prices, as I've posited:   (in some detail) over in one of the recent blog entries.  G   The one part I wish I had for the local box was the tower stand.  :-)     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.com    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.231 ************************