1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 02 Aug 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 427       Contents: $setuai prc$m_tcb and auditing CDE create action application 0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS?0 Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? Re: Interex is Dead! RE: Interex is Dead! Re: SMTP authentication  Re: SMTP authentication . Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution?2 Re: Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution?2 Re: Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  * Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 19:58:58 +0000 (UTC)3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> ' Subject: $setuai prc$m_tcb and auditing ? Message-ID: <dcluu1$i1o$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>    Hi,   H This is on VAX/VMS 6.2 and does not appear to be reproduceable on Alpha.H (Yes I know it's old but if anyone's memory is jogged then please let me know)   J Two detached processes created, both running the same image under the same6 username after the $creprc stsflg parameter was set atK <prc$m_detach!prc$m_tcb>. One of them is happily informing $setuai *not* to G audit changes to the UAF (via $setuai) but the other one starts telling 6 everyone that logfails/successes etc is being updated.  H Anyone familiar enough with the $setuai code to tell me why the TCB flagC could be being ignored? (The creprc_flags and the phdflags for both  processes are the same)    Regards Richard Maher    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:41:41 -0400 6 From: Brad Hamilton <brMadAhamPiltSon@coMmcaAstP.neSt>& Subject: CDE create action application0 Message-ID: <tLSdnSTvu_B48XPfRVn-3g@comcast.com>  $ Apologies if this has double-posted:  F I've discovered a problem with the "Create Action" application in CDE.   OpenVMS V7.3-2 DWMotif 1.3-1, ECO 2  ? When I create an action, choose the "window type" as "Graphical A (X-Window)", (which is the default, BTW) and save the action, the ( resultant *.DT file shows the following:     ACTION secure_web_browser  { &       LABEL         Secure Web Browser       TYPE          COMMAND G       EXEC_STRING   @sys$common:[cswb]mozilla/output=sys$login:cswb.log        ICON          Dtactn       WINDOW_TYPE   NO_STDIO1       DESCRIPTION   SWB is the Secure Web Browser  }   ? As you can see, the window type is set to NO_STDIO (No Output). A Changing the window type to any of the other choices produces the  "expected" behavior.  I I've searched Google Gwoups	:-), but found nothing.  I'm a Hobbyist, so I $ can't use "formal" support channels.   --   Bradford J. Hamilton "All opinions are my own" * "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-' with @"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:00:40 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? , Message-ID: <42EE6343.1C66202F@teksavvy.com>   Paul Anderson wrote:? > customize this stuff and no, it's not particularly easy.  The G > PostScript code is squashed to make it efficient but not easy to read  > by humans.  K Adding some CR/LFs (or I assume not removing them from your baseline source M code which I would hope is human readable) would not add a lot of overhead in S terms of space and performnance and would make it so much easier to debug problems.     I > so.  If you have specific requirements in this area, please let me know = > and we can consider making this easier in a future version.   M I'd like to see DCPS create a dictionary containing any/all information about N that job, including any parameters supplied (possibly user defined paramentersH as well, the note etc etc). Then, when a flag page is called, a specificN module would be called, and that module could be customizable and just use theG variables already defined in that dictionary to generate the flag page.   N Furthermore, code in the "main" postscript program would then also have access: to the print job information by accessing that dictionary.    E > And BTW, we changed the company name to a variable while we were at F > Genicom because the same code was used by OpenVMS and Windows and we' > had multiple company names to display     N It would be nice to be able to define the company name there so that customers" would have their onw company name.  I Also, while I am at it,  DCPS should define a logical associated with the M queue which would contain the printer name/type as soon as it has established 8 communications with the printer and determined its type.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:17:30 -0500? From: "Christopher Story" <ke6rwj@spam-eater-remove-me-msn.com> 9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? $ Message-ID: <FEtHe.6$c45.0@fe05.lga>  7 "Paul Anderson" <paul.anderson@hp.com> wrote in message / news:010820051125164709%paul.anderson@hp.com... < > In article <5fBGe.583$VU1.250@fe07.lga>, Christopher Story. > <ke6rwj@spam-eater-remove-me-msn.com> wrote: > E > > Is it possible to create a custom banner page in DCPS.  I must be ; > > able to put the Username, Jobname and Time on the page.  > I > This topics comes up every so often.  The last newsgroup discussion was C > in 2000, so I guess we're overdue.  At that time, I had suggested H > changing the DECnet-style node::user display to the IP-style user@node	 > syntax.  > C > Most of the comments made so far have been correct.  Yes, you can ? > customize this stuff and no, it's not particularly easy.  The G > PostScript code is squashed to make it efficient but not easy to read  > by humans. > B > There are many things that could be customized on the flag page.H > Information about the name or address of the printer, software versionG > or other items could be changed but there's no supported way of doing I > so.  If you have specific requirements in this area, please let me know = > and we can consider making this easier in a future version.  > E > And BTW, we changed the company name to a variable while we were at F > Genicom because the same code was used by OpenVMS and Windows and weF > had multiple company names to display (Digital and then Compaq, plusE > Genicom.  It wasn't really because the name changes so often, as it ( > still needs to be changed _somewhere_. >  > --   >  Paul Anderson >   OpenVMS Engineering  >   Hewlett-Packard Company      Paul, 1     I found a post that you wrote in July of 2003 L (http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/3bf5a8< 4fa3d5c99f/d986e9a13a97ea8d?q=dcps&rnum=55#d986e9a13a97ea8d)  J It helped very much.  I was able to customize the banner a bit.  I noticed. that the variables are sent to the printer as:   job flag initpage (TAZ::AAGAARD) username  (JOB 39) jobid (DCPS$IVP_POST) name% (Hewlett-Packard Company) companyname ! (OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2  ) systemid  (DCPS F2.5) symbiontid mark (SYSTEM  ) (Account:)  ([OWNER,AAGAARD]) (Owner UIC:) section1 mark (30-JUL-2005 22:01) (Started:). ("IP_LPD/192.168.1.72:text") (Printer device:) (DCLAPTOP) (Printer queue:)   (30-JUL-2005 22:01) (Submitted:) (DCLAPTOP) (Submit queue:) (100) (Priority:)  section2 endpage end   = and the PS Variable "username" formats the text included. as:   F         /username{helvbold-26 setfont 306 665 position centershow}bdef    So the result is interpreted as:  H         (TAZ::AAGAARD) {helvbold-26 setfont 306 665 position centershow}  H Is there any method to manipulate the sections below.  or is this in the symbiont only?   (TAZ::AAGAARD) username  (JOB 39) jobid (DCPS$IVP_POST) name% (Hewlett-Packard Company) companyname ! (OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2  ) systemid  (DCPS F2.5) symbiontid  % I would need to add this PS variable:    mark4  (TAZ::AAGAARD) (DCPS$IVP_POST) {setjobinfo} stopped cleartomark   I I'm not expecting this to be fully supported, we are moving to an imaging H system for all output, and we need to provide the system some consistent/ parameters so the jobs can be properly indexed.   L The other option is to add PJL commands to the LPS$$ppp_INITPSDEVICE V2.5-1,8 but I dont see a way to get the variables to the module.   [ESC]%-12345X@PJL  @PJL JOB NAME="DCPS$IVP_POST"   @PJL SET USERNAME="TAZ::AAGAARD" @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=POSTSCRIPT
 %!PS-AdobeA %  Copyright 1988-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.  % LPS$$ppp_INITPSDEVICE V2.5-1   Chris    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:47:56 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? 5 Message-ID: <010820051532244402%paul.anderson@hp.com>   5 In article <42EE6343.1C66202F@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei % <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:   F > Adding some CR/LFs (or I assume not removing them from your baselineG > source code which I would hope is human readable) would not add a lot E > of overhead in terms of space and performnance and would make it so   > much easier to debug problems.  G The source PostScript code is indeed readable by humans, created by the F many anal-retentive engineers who have worked on DCPS over the years. G The code is "packed" at build time.  Even though not "packing" it would G probably not cause a performance problem, the thinking through the ages G was to make it hard for people to customize (mess up) their flag pages.   = > I'd like to see DCPS create a dictionary containing any/all ? > information about that job, including any parameters supplied F > (possibly user defined paramenters as well, the note etc etc). Then,D > when a flag page is called, a specific module would be called, andF > that module could be customizable and just use the variables already7 > defined in that dictionary to generate the flag page.  > D > Furthermore, code in the "main" postscript program would then also< > have access to the print job information by accessing that
 > dictionary.   0 Are you suggesting a PostScript dictionary here?  F > It would be nice to be able to define the company name there so that. > customers would have their onw company name.  & This feature has been requested often.  G > Also, while I am at it,  DCPS should define a logical associated with G > the queue which would contain the printer name/type as soon as it has F > established communications with the printer and determined its type.  F What purpose would these new logical names serve?  Would it be helpful in debugging problems?  @ I can see how they could be useful, but DCPS already has so manyE logical names, and adding "read-only" logical names might make things G more confusing, especially since the product name can be specified with - the DCPS$queuename_PRODUCT_NAME logical name.    Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:00:22 GMT * From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com>9 Subject: Re: Creating Custom Printer Banner Page in DCPS? 5 Message-ID: <010820051544499155%paul.anderson@hp.com>   6 In article <FEtHe.6$c45.0@fe05.lga>, Christopher Story, <ke6rwj@spam-eater-remove-me-msn.com> wrote:  J > Is there any method to manipulate the sections below.  or is this in the > symbiont only? >  > (TAZ::AAGAARD) username  > (JOB 39) jobid > (DCPS$IVP_POST) name' > (Hewlett-Packard Company) companyname # > (OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2  ) systemid  > (DCPS F2.5) symbiontid  D I wouldn't think you'd really want to modify most of these, with the@ exception of "companyname".  You're suggesting there be a way to* eliminate the other items entirely, right?   ' > I would need to add this PS variable:  >  > mark6 >  (TAZ::AAGAARD) (DCPS$IVP_POST) {setjobinfo} stopped
 > cleartomark    What would this do?   C > I'm not expecting this to be fully supported, we are moving to an G > imaging system for all output, and we need to provide the system some < > consistent parameters so the jobs can be properly indexed.  E I understand your need to eliminate certain items from the flag page, ? but please explain what you mean by "consistent parameters" and  "properly indexed".   N > The other option is to add PJL commands to the LPS$$ppp_INITPSDEVICE V2.5-1,: > but I dont see a way to get the variables to the module. >  > [ESC]%-12345X@PJL  > @PJL JOB NAME="DCPS$IVP_POST" " > @PJL SET USERNAME="TAZ::AAGAARD"  > @PJL ENTER LANGUAGE=POSTSCRIPT > %!PS-AdobeC > %  Copyright 1988-2004 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.   > % LPS$$ppp_INITPSDEVICE V2.5-1  E DCPS ignores PJL commands.  Sometimes, items like Username are put in C the file as PostScript comments.  DCPS does not generate these, but F since some printers use this information, we've thought of adding suchE comments at the beginning of the file.  Not all information about the > job is available at that time, however, so it could never be a5 substitute mechanism for passing all flag page items.    Paul   --    Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineering    Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:48:19 GMT 1 From: Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com>  Subject: Re: Interex is Dead! 2 Message-ID: <70vHe.9660$F24.7070@news.cpqcorp.net>   Greg Cagle wrote: D > This is of course only one piece of a full support package. If theF > details of the HP World 2005 support package come out, you will findB > that it is a small fraction of previous years, especially in theF > area of committed speakers and sessions. The press release you quoteD > was Interex marketing at work trying to sell HP World to attendeesF > as a "supported HP conference" when in reality things were radically  > different than previous years.   More details are emerging.    From ComputerWorld,  Q http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,103456,00.html A "The organization's financial collapse was months in the making." E "HP remained a premier sponsor of this year's HP World, at a cost of  H about $100,000, according to Interex members and conference organizers, G who asked that their names not be used. But it drastically cut back on  G its trade show presence, the sources said. HP leased 7,000 square feet  I of floor space at HP World 2004 but was taking only 900 square feet this   year, they said.  C HP also told Interex that it intended to cut back on the number of  E technical sessions it supported at HP World. In the past, HP workers  F typically handled about half of the conference's 400 sessions. But HP H initially said it would do only 20 sessions this year, according to the @ sources. It later raised that figure, but only to 38, they said.  C David Parsons, HP's vice president of enterprise marketing for the  D Americas region, confirmed the details about this year's plans. But C Parsons said there were good reasons for the changes. About 700 HP  F employees attended HP World 2004, and the company used the conference D for technical training of its workers as well as users and business H partners. This year, HP wanted to provide the training at its own event.  B HP didn't intend to hurt Interex, Parsons said. He added that the H company laid out its HP World support plans last year and that the user ; group "made a business decision" to pursue its own course."   ( And in an editorial, ComputerWorld said,U http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/management/story/0,10801,103400,00.html H "Why would Interex place an ad to attract registrations to HP World one C week, only to cancel the show the next? How could all of this have  ) happened so suddenly and without warning?   I I don't know the answer to either question. But I do know that this is a  I glaring indication of some pretty shoddy management, and you can't blame  F HP for that. Many people will slam HP for killing HP World -- and, by G extension, Interex, since the event was the main source of the group's  F revenue -- by starting its own user conference and convincing the two 3 other top independent HP user groups to support it.   G But no one can argue that it was HP that pulled the rug out from under  I Interex's members last week. The Interex leadership did that itself. And   there's no excuse for it.   G Interex had plenty of time to determine whether holding HP World was a  H viable proposition at all, let alone one month before the HP Technology D Forum. It appears now that the decision to go it alone was based on B wishful thinking, blind stubbornness or a combination of the two."   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 15:18:08 -0500/ From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com>  Subject: RE: Interex is Dead! T Message-ID: <DA4AD590CAF06845B671C398333A89C60C0A7B17@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  J HP is using the HP Technology Forum to handle its technical training so itG could not afford to have a strong presence at both events.  Interex was F invited to participate in the Forum, but elected to run HP World againF instead.  Encompass, and the OpenView Forum are the two groups who areE putting together the Forum.  HP is going to have over 10,000 sq/ft of  exhibit space.   EdE **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:09:34 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>   Subject: Re: SMTP authentication, Message-ID: <42EE6558.FB9D5738@teksavvy.com>   ----- wrote:L > I need to put up an SMTP server but I need an _authenticated_ one to avoid > spam relay  G TCPIP Services doesn't have that. However, it does have proper logic to & prevent it from being used as a relay.  F Once relay-blockin is enabled, you define which ips (or ip blocks) areM considered local/good hosts. Users from such IPs are allowed to send messages  destined to the internet.   K Connections from IPs not in the good hosts list are only allowed to send to F local adressess and not allowed to send outside yor domain (relaying).  L Lack of authentication does prevent you from using some dialup ISP and usingM your own SMTP server to send your emails to the world. But could can use that & isp's smtp server to send your emails.   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Aug 2005 12:55:09 -0700  From: bob@instantwhip.com   Subject: Re: SMTP authenticationC Message-ID: <1122926109.453187.265600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   3 it is possible to do it with PMDF or TCPware. It is ! the best IP stack for OpenVMS ...    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:01:21 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) 7 Subject: Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution? 1 Message-ID: <96A58C76Dwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>    Folks,  I Thanks to those who helped me find the Macro-64 install kit (on freeware  I disk v4).  But now I find I also need Macro-32, and can't find it on the  K freeware disks.  Could someone please point me to it?  We're running 7.3-2   on an Alpha.   tia,   ws   --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:09:29 -0500  From: briggs@encompasserve.org; Subject: Re: Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution? 3 Message-ID: <E3gGpi6WMX+n@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <96A58C76Dwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>, wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) writes:  > Folks, > K > Thanks to those who helped me find the Macro-64 install kit (on freeware  K > disk v4).  But now I find I also need Macro-32, and can't find it on the  M > freeware disks.  Could someone please point me to it?  We're running 7.3-2   > on an Alpha.  C Macro-32?  That's comes with the operating system.  Just type MACRO   or HELP MACRO from the $ prompt.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:40:29 -0000 1 From: wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) ; Subject: Re: Where is Macro 32 in OpenVMS 7.3 Distribution? 1 Message-ID: <96A591E67wspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>   ! briggs@encompasserve.org wrote in ) <E3gGpi6WMX+n@eisner.encompasserve.org>:    2 >In article <96A58C76Dwspenceraporg@216.168.3.30>,5 >wspencer@ap.dontspamme.org (Warren Spencer) writes:  	 >> Folks,  >>  B >> Thanks to those who helped me find the Macro-64 install kit (onE >> freeware disk v4).  But now I find I also need Macro-32, and can't H >> find it on the freeware disks.  Could someone please point me to it? # >> We're running 7.3-2 on an Alpha.  > D >Macro-32?  That's comes with the operating system.  Just type MACRO! >or HELP MACRO from the $ prompt.  >  >     John Briggs  >   I Yup you're right John.  Our meticulous sys adms said "no" at vms install- ' time, which expains why it's not there.    Many thanks!   ws   --   Warren Spencer Senior Software Engineer The Associated Press   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.427 ************************