1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 04 Aug 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 432       Contents: Re: 'Nuff said Re: 'Nuff said RE: 'Nuff said Re: 'Nuff said RE: 'Nuff said Re: ANNOUNCE: XPdf v3.00pl3 ' Announcing August 16th WRUG LUG Meeting  Re: C compiler, 7-character CRC  Re: C compiler, 7-character CRC  Re: C compiler, 7-character CRC 1 Re: Digital logo and other character cell draws.. ( Re: homemade hardware i/o and the xp1000/ Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffin / Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffin / Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffin 0 RE: Moving a UAF file from one Alpha to another.  Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64  Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64  Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64B Re: What is DKA100:XQPCACHE, Extent cache, etc., from SH DEV D/FU?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:51:38 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com> Subject: Re: 'Nuff said , Message-ID: <_ViIe.32957$Tk6.18934@trnddc02>   briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: Q > In article <COTHe.26331$MW5.21798@trnddc08>, John Santos <john@egh.com> writes:  > ! >>briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  >>x >>>In article <dcon5r$3bm$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: >>>  >>>  >>>>Hi Richard,  >>>>D >>>>We don't run DECnet on the TestDrive systems.  Try this instead. >>>> >>>>$ set host 0/telnet  >>>  >>>  >>>$ set host 0 /telnet  >>>?Illegal internet address >>>  >>>$ set host 127.0.0.1 /telnet  >>>Username: >> >> >>What stack are you running?  >  > 
 > Multinet   The only one I didn't try :-)   G Someone else also posted that multinet didn't like "0" as a synonym for  the local host.   @ I don't know if this is a generic address resolution problem, orE specific to "set host/telnet".  "telnet 0" connects to the local host F on DEC Unix 4.0, Solaris 5.7, Red Hat 5.2, VMS/TCPWARE and VMS/UCX allD seem to like it, so my guess is that it is one of those undocumentedE Unix conventions that Multinet missed (or you both have misconfigured ) Multinet systems, with the same problem?)   C Since I don't have Multinet anywhere, I don't think I can report it E to Process...  beside, I couldn't tell if a workaround/patch/reconfig @ fixes it, even if they listened to me.  IOW, you should submit a problem report.    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 07:51:40 +0000 (UTC)3 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>  Subject: Re: 'Nuff said ? Message-ID: <dcshec$go7$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>   J Does no one mind that even HP couldn't be arsed to run DECnet on thier own test-drive cluster?    Regards Richard Maher   - "John Santos" <john@egh.com> wrote in message & news:_ViIe.32957$Tk6.18934@trnddc02...! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: K > > In article <COTHe.26331$MW5.21798@trnddc08>, John Santos <john@egh.com>  writes:  > > # > >>briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > >>D > >>>In article <dcon5r$3bm$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,5 "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  > >>>  > >>>  > >>>>Hi Richard,  > >>>>F > >>>>We don't run DECnet on the TestDrive systems.  Try this instead. > >>>> > >>>>$ set host 0/telnet  > >>>  > >>>  > >>>$ set host 0 /telnet  > >>>?Illegal internet address > >>> ! > >>>$ set host 127.0.0.1 /telnet  > >>>Username: > >> > >> > >>What stack are you running?  > >  > >  > > Multinet >  > The only one I didn't try :-)  > I > Someone else also posted that multinet didn't like "0" as a synonym for  > the local host.  > B > I don't know if this is a generic address resolution problem, orG > specific to "set host/telnet".  "telnet 0" connects to the local host H > on DEC Unix 4.0, Solaris 5.7, Red Hat 5.2, VMS/TCPWARE and VMS/UCX allF > seem to like it, so my guess is that it is one of those undocumentedG > Unix conventions that Multinet missed (or you both have misconfigured + > Multinet systems, with the same problem?)  > E > Since I don't have Multinet anywhere, I don't think I can report it G > to Process...  beside, I couldn't tell if a workaround/patch/reconfig B > fixes it, even if they listened to me.  IOW, you should submit a > problem report.  >  > --  
 > John Santos  > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:27:51 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: 'Nuff said R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B1B5F@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----, > From: John Santos [mailto:john@egh.com]=20 > Sent: August 4, 2005 2:52 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: 'Nuff said  >=20! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: ? > > In article <COTHe.26331$MW5.21798@trnddc08>, John Santos=20  > <john@egh.com> writes: > >=20# > >>briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > >> > >>>In article=20B > <dcon5r$3bm$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard=20. > Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: > >>>  > >>>  > >>>>Hi Richard,  > >>>>F > >>>>We don't run DECnet on the TestDrive systems.  Try this instead. > >>>> > >>>>$ set host 0/telnet  > >>>  > >>>  > >>>$ set host 0 /telnet  > >>>?Illegal internet address > >>> ! > >>>$ set host 127.0.0.1 /telnet  > >>>Username: > >> > >> > >>What stack are you running?  > >=20 > >=20 > > Multinet >=20 > The only one I didn't try :-)  >=20@ > Someone else also posted that multinet didn't like "0" as a=20
 > synonym for  > the local host.  >=20B > I don't know if this is a generic address resolution problem, orG > specific to "set host/telnet".  "telnet 0" connects to the local host H > on DEC Unix 4.0, Solaris 5.7, Red Hat 5.2, VMS/TCPWARE and VMS/UCX allF > seem to like it, so my guess is that it is one of those undocumentedG > Unix conventions that Multinet missed (or you both have misconfigured + > Multinet systems, with the same problem?)  >=20E > Since I don't have Multinet anywhere, I don't think I can report it G > to Process...  beside, I couldn't tell if a workaround/patch/reconfig B > fixes it, even if they listened to me.  IOW, you should submit a > problem report.  >=20 > --=20 
 > John Santos  > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539 >=20   John,   D I am using Multinet V5.1 (latest kit) on my home VMS systems and canE confirm the "set ho 0/telnet" still fails with this latest version of 	 Multinet.   B I will drop a note to the MU mailing list to see what the folks at Process think.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2005 07:37:52 -0500  From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: Re: 'Nuff said 3 Message-ID: <bqlU$YeFhX2T@eisner.encompasserve.org>   O In article <_ViIe.32957$Tk6.18934@trnddc02>, John Santos <john@egh.com> writes: ! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: R >> In article <COTHe.26331$MW5.21798@trnddc08>, John Santos <john@egh.com> writes: >>  " >>>briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: >>> y >>>>In article <dcon5r$3bm$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes:  >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Richard, >>>>> E >>>>>We don't run DECnet on the TestDrive systems.  Try this instead.  >>>>>  >>>>>$ set host 0/telnet >>>> >>>> >>>>$ set host 0 /telnet >>>>?Illegal internet address  >>>>  >>>>$ set host 127.0.0.1 /telnet
 >>>>Username:  >>>  >>>  >>>What stack are you running? >>   >>   >> Multinet  >  > The only one I didn't try :-)  > I > Someone else also posted that multinet didn't like "0" as a synonym for  > the local host.  > B > I don't know if this is a generic address resolution problem, orG > specific to "set host/telnet".  "telnet 0" connects to the local host H > on DEC Unix 4.0, Solaris 5.7, Red Hat 5.2, VMS/TCPWARE and VMS/UCX allF > seem to like it, so my guess is that it is one of those undocumentedG > Unix conventions that Multinet missed (or you both have misconfigured + > Multinet systems, with the same problem?)  > E > Since I don't have Multinet anywhere, I don't think I can report it G > to Process...  beside, I couldn't tell if a workaround/patch/reconfig B > fixes it, even if they listened to me.  IOW, you should submit a > problem report.   G It's not a bug.  It's correct behavior.  It's all the other stacks that  are arguably misbehaving.   E RFC 1700 specifically says that host 0, network 0 can only be used as  a source address.   F Of course, a claim that this is a bug in all the other stacks is a bitJ strong.  What the telnet application or those stacks do with a destinationG address of 0.0.0.0 is up to them -- as long as it doesn't leak out onto 	 the wire.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:15:59 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: 'Nuff said R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B1B63@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   >=20 > > -----Original Message-----. > > From: John Santos [mailto:john@egh.com]=20  > > Sent: August 4, 2005 2:52 AM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > > Subject: Re: 'Nuff said  > >=20# > > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote: A > > > In article <COTHe.26331$MW5.21798@trnddc08>, John Santos=20  > > <john@egh.com> writes: > > >=20% > > >>briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > > >> > > >>>In article=20D > > <dcon5r$3bm$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, "Richard=200 > > Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: > > >>>  > > >>>  > > >>>>Hi Richard,  > > >>>>H > > >>>>We don't run DECnet on the TestDrive systems.  Try this instead. > > >>>> > > >>>>$ set host 0/telnet  > > >>>  > > >>>  > > >>>$ set host 0 /telnet   > > >>>?Illegal internet address > > >>> # > > >>>$ set host 127.0.0.1 /telnet  > > >>>Username: > > >> > > >>! > > >>What stack are you running?  > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Multinet > >=20! > > The only one I didn't try :-)  > >=20B > > Someone else also posted that multinet didn't like "0" as a=20 > > synonym for  > > the local host.  > >=20D > > I don't know if this is a generic address resolution problem, orA > > specific to "set host/telnet".  "telnet 0" connects to the=20  > local hostA > > on DEC Unix 4.0, Solaris 5.7, Red Hat 5.2, VMS/TCPWARE and=20 
 > VMS/UCX all H > > seem to like it, so my guess is that it is one of those undocumented> > > Unix conventions that Multinet missed (or you both have=20 > misconfigured - > > Multinet systems, with the same problem?)  > >=20G > > Since I don't have Multinet anywhere, I don't think I can report it 2 > > to Process...  beside, I couldn't tell if a=20 > workaround/patch/reconfig D > > fixes it, even if they listened to me.  IOW, you should submit a > > problem report.  > >=20	 > > --=20  > > John Santos   > > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > > 781-861-0670 ext 539 > >=20 >=20 > John,  >=20F > I am using Multinet V5.1 (latest kit) on my home VMS systems and canG > confirm the "set ho 0/telnet" still fails with this latest version of  > Multinet.  >=20D > I will drop a note to the MU mailing list to see what the folks at > Process think. >=20  D Hunter Goatley from Process already got back to me on the MU list ..   :-)    Here is his response:    ++++C > With MU (including latest V5.1 kit), you get an "illegal internet  > address" error.   > You're right; MultiNet's TELNET client doesn't accept "0" as a< shortcut for "localhost".  We'll add that to the to-do list.   Thanks!    ++++  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:18:38 -0400+ From: Chip Coldwell <coldwell@gmail.nospam> $ Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: XPdf v3.00pl3@ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0508040548570.1160@frank.harvard.edu>  ( On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Mark Berryman wrote:   > Chip Coldwell wrote: >>  I >> It's not exactly hard-coded.  The file DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS:XPDFRC.DAT # >> contains the Xpdf configuration:  >>  ) >> $ type decw$system_defaults:xpdfrc.dat  >> antialias yes >> enableT1lib yes >> enableFreeType yes ! >> fontDir sys$sysroot:[gs.fonts] ' >> fontDir sys$sysroot:[fonts.truetype] $ >> fontDir sys$sysroot:[fonts.type1] > F > I replaced the first fontDir statement with one of my own specifying: > where I have my ghostscript fonts installed.  The stringI > SYS$COMMON:[GS.FONTS] is hardcoded in the XPDF.EXE image and, so far at D > least, that is the only place I've been able to get it to look forF > fonts.  Using SET WATCH, I have verified that it finds and opens theJ > xpdfrc.dat file but for all of the fonts it looks only in SYS$COMMON forJ > GS.DIR and, when it can't find it, looks in the directory where the fileC > being displayed is located.  It does not try any of the locations # > specified in the xpdfrc.dat file.   I That string is hardcoded in, yes.  A logical name would have been better  F -- and the configuration file better still.  Here's the change I made:   $ diff xpdf.cc ************= File DISK$USER:[COLDWELL.SOFTWARE.XPDF.3_00PL3.XPDF]XPDF.CC;6 A    152     globalParams->setupBaseFonts("sys$common:[gs.fonts]");     153     if (psFileArg[0]) { ******= File DISK$USER:[COLDWELL.SOFTWARE.XPDF.3_00PL3.XPDF]XPDF.CC;5 .    152     globalParams->setupBaseFonts(NULL);    153     if (psFileArg[0]) { ************  & Number of difference sections found: 1% Number of difference records found: 1   G The "globalParams->setupBaseFonts" function sets up the initial type 1  H base fonts.  I made that change because without it Xpdf complains about ) not being able to find the initial fonts:    $ xpdf 21364.pdf$ Error: No display font for 'Courier') Error: No display font for 'Courier-Bold' 0 Error: No display font for 'Courier-BoldOblique', Error: No display font for 'Courier-Oblique'& Error: No display font for 'Helvetica'+ Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-Bold' 2 Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-BoldOblique'. Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-Oblique'# Error: No display font for 'Symbol' ' Error: No display font for 'Times-Bold' - Error: No display font for 'Times-BoldItalic' ) Error: No display font for 'Times-Italic' ( Error: No display font for 'Times-Roman') Error: No display font for 'ZapfDingbats'   H But clearly hard-coding it wasn't the right thing to do.  I'll see if I K can figure out how to get Xpdf to respect the configuration file for these   fonts.   Chip   --   Charles M. "Chip" Coldwell Turn on, log in, tune out    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:45:20 GMT / From: "Joe H. Gallagher" <dtrwiz@ix.netcom.com> 0 Subject: Announcing August 16th WRUG LUG Meeting, Message-ID: <42F229FB.3050201@ix.netcom.com>   . .                 Announcing August 16th Meeting-                   Western Reserve Users Group '                        (Northeast Ohio) .                  Local User Group of Encompass  -                  (usual time and usual place)   : If you are going to attend the LUG meeting on August 16th,: please RSVP to this message or to Sederholm at TrendCS dot8 com.  We would like to get an estimate of the number who; will attend so we can have the appropriate number of slices 9 of pizza (or other food).  Please RSVP before noon on the  day of the meeting.    Topic: Web Application Security   6     Standard Firewalls do not protect web applications?     and host based protection is often "a day late and a dollar      short".   ) Speaker: Allen Perk, President XLNsystems   <     Allen Perk has been in Information Technology since 1978:     when he graduated from Miami University receiving a BS>     degree in Applied Science.  He formed his IT foundation at:     Ernst & Ernst, State Government, and Digital Equipment<     Corporation prior to starting XLNsystems in 1991.  Since?     then XLNsystems boasts a client return rate of over 97% and :     the company focuses its skills on Software Application@     Development, Remote System Administration, Network Security,!     and Web Application Security.   , Topic: ITSM - Manage your IT like a business  5     IT Service Management (ITSM) is generally divided >     into two main areas, Service Support and Service Delivery.9     Together, these comprise the disciplines that embrace >     provision and management of effective IT services. We will0     also explore the ITIL framework behind ITSM.  : Speaker: Kevin Meccia, Senior Systems Specialist, Agilysys  <     Kevin has 6 years specializing in enterprise servers and<     storage systems from DEC, Compaq, HP, and IBM. Kevin has9     spent the past 2 years in a pre-sales consulting role =     supporting many HP Enterprise Server & Storage customers. 7     Prior experiences include a system/rack integration      technician with Agilysys.    Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2005   Time: 4:00 to 7:00 PM   	 Location:        Park Center Plaza III      Lower Level conference room      6050 Oak Tree Blvd.      Independence, OH 44131;     (Call Joe's cell phone at 216-406-7639 if you get lost)    Map: See URL on the Web site   Directions:   :     From the area of the interchange of I-480 and I-77, go*     south and take the Rockside Road exit.  =     At the bottom of the ramp, turn right (west) on Rockside.   ;     Go west two blocks (second light); turn left (south) on      Oak Tree Blvd.   See the LUG's web page at   &     http://eisner.decus.org/lugs/wrug/  & Future LUG meetings are scheduled for:  "     October 11, 2005 (tentatively)   See you August 16th.       Bill Sederholm     WRUG LUG Chair      Sederholm at TrendCS dot com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:11:53 +0200& From: "Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at>( Subject: Re: C compiler, 7-character CRCG Message-ID: <42f1bfb8$0$26170$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at>    Hi,   % yes, exactly, how to compute the CRC!    Walter  : "John Reagan" <john.reagan@hp.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag , news:zb9Ie.9809$xx5.1993@news.cpqcorp.net... > Walter Kuhn wrote: >> Hi, >>= >> we are using the OpenVMS C-Compiler (V6.2) with the option  >> >> /names=shortened  >>K >> For some automatic code generation (for combining Pascal and Java code)  L >> we would need the algorithm of the C-Compiler that is used for computing  >> the 7-character CRC >> >> e.g.  >>4 >> Java_at_pke_sms_comlayer_SmsInvoker_generateEvent >>" >> is shortened by the compiler to >>" >> Java_at_pke_sms_comlaye1gtr1n9$ >>5 >> Is it possible (preferably in Java) to compute the  >>
 >> 1gtr1n9 >>$ >> checksum outside the C compiler ? >> >> Thanks in advance.  >> >> Walter Kuhn >> >> > M > Re-reading the original question, you want to know how to compute the same  8 > CRC that the C compiler computes automatically, right? > 8 > I don't see that documented anywhere in the C manuals. >  >  >  > --  
 > John Reagan 1 > HP Pascal/{A|I}MACRO for OpenVMS Project Leader  > Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:23:35 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> ( Subject: Re: C compiler, 7-character CRC2 Message-ID: <bNnIe.9837$GR5.8457@news.cpqcorp.net>   Walter Kuhn wrote: > Hi,  > ' > yes, exactly, how to compute the CRC!   " John Malmberg wrote on August 3rd:  >&  > The following link should help you:  >4  > http://h18012.www1.hp.com/java/faq/ovms.html#4.1b  >I  > It provides a link to a tool that your automated procedure may be able   > to be adapted to use.  >  > -John%  > malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.com   > Personal Opinion Only   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:51:03 GMT 4 From: "Ed Vogel" <edward.vogel_stop_the_spam@hp.com>( Subject: Re: C compiler, 7-character CRC2 Message-ID: <b3pIe.9842$z_5.9369@news.cpqcorp.net>  2 "Walter Kuhn" <w.kuhn@ksg.co.at> wrote in message A news:42f0b4f6$0$16478$91cee783@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at...  > Hi,  > < > we are using the OpenVMS C-Compiler (V6.2) with the option >  > /names=shortened > M > For some automatic code generation (for combining Pascal and Java code) we  L > would need the algorithm of the C-Compiler that is used for computing the  > 7-character CRC  >     4   We generate the CRC by calling lib$crc as follows:  $         long       initial_crc = -1;,         crc_result = lib$crc(good_crc_table,*                              &initial_crc,<                              <descriptor of string to CRC>);            where good_crc_table is:     /*     ** Default CRC table:      **G     **      This table was taken from Ada's generalized name generation J     **      algorithm.  It represents a commonly used CRC polynomial knownF     **      as AUTODIN-II.  For more information see the VAX Macro VMS8     **      documentation under the CRC VAX instruction.     */  2     static const unsigned int good_crc_table[16] =I                          {0x00000000, 0x1DB71064, 0x3B6E20C8, 0x26D930AC, I                           0x76DC4190, 0x6B6B51F4, 0x4DB26158, 0x5005713C, I                           0xEDB88320, 0xF00F9344, 0xD6D6A3E8, 0xCB61B38C, J                           0x9B64C2B0, 0x86D3D2D4, 0xA00AE278, 0xBDBDF21C};  C     Hope this helps...sorry for the small type...I can't figure out   $     how to cut/paste any other way!!       Ed Vogel  $     HP/Compaq/DEC C/C++ Engineering.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:38:40 +0200 - From: Alex van Denzel <vandenzel@hotmail.com> : Subject: Re: Digital logo and other character cell draws..7 Message-ID: <42f1c600$0$53151$dbd4d001@news.wanadoo.nl>    contracer11@gmail.com wrote:B > Is there any way to create Sun Microsystems logo with DCL escape > characters ?A > I always use my VAX to access Solaris system with RSH commands, < > and I'd like create a Sun logo to put in my procedures... 	 > Thanks.  > ? Some VTxxx terminals (320 and higher I believe) are capable of  F displaying uploaded fonts, so you could sacrifice some characters and  create the sun-logo.  H Another way is, create a big logo (like, screen size) with an ascii-art % rendering of the Sun logo. Like this.                 /\               \ \             \ \ \             \ \ \          /  \ \  /         / /  \/ / /         / / /\  / / /\         \/ / /  \/ / /           / / /\  / /           /  \ \  /              \ \ \             \ \ \             \ \               \/    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:39:19 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp> 1 Subject: Re: homemade hardware i/o and the xp1000 1 Message-ID: <bUoIe.9841$W_5.408@news.cpqcorp.net>    gobo20@lycos.com wrote: E > i asked the questions below about the 500au.  what about an xp1000? I > they have a single isa slot.  been reading some past posts and it seems : > the video card is the biggest issue with vms.  thoughts?  B Only a number of video cards are supported with OpenVMS, and some E systems have dependencies on which slots can handle a video card, or  . which options can be combined on a single bus.  D There should be some links off of http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/ for 4 lists of what options are supported on what systems.  D > i have been doing bit-twiddling on external devices with linux andI > parallel port cards for a while now.  i generally use old ibm isa cards < > and an import pci card where i have the docs for the chip.  I The commercial applications that I am familiar with that need to do such  > manipulations generally used a network connection to either a 9 specialized device like a PLC or a terminal/print server.   H Such terminal or print server devices are now selling for less than $30 I retail on sale for simple units, with more expensive units available for   commercial applications.  E Instead of putting a parallel port on a computer, I would put one of  D these network devices on the device and communicate with it through  either LAT or TCP/IP.   < The advantage of that is now redundent computers can handle G communication with the device instead of a single computer.  And it is  I easy to add redundent devices.  Adding redundent network hardware may be   a bit more expensive.   H With OpenVMS 8.2 USB is now an option provided that you have a USB card D that OpenVMS recognizes, and there are low cost USB to parallel and  serial adapters.  H There are USB switches that allow you to share a USB device between two A computers.  I have no idea on how well they play with VMS though.    >  as a vms H > admin during the day, i thought i would take a shot at doing this withE > vms.  picked up a used jensen, but have since learned the jensen is G > probably not the platform to do this on.  there are some used 500au's I > on ebay, but i don't know a thing about the 500au other than it must be 6 > an au for vms.  what kind of bus is in these things?  H Generally the newer Alpha's only have PCI buses on them.  I do not know $ if that model has an ISA bus or not.  J > can you disable the on-board parallel port as on a pc so a different one  > can be plugged in?   G Disabling the on-board parallel port should not be needed to add a new  E one in.  The SYS$USER_CONFIG.DAT may need some additional entries to   identify the new card.  E The PC specification maps out 3 parallel ports in the ISA space, and  ; with PCI space, I do not think there would be a limitation.   D You are aware that the source to the parallel port driver is in the " SYS$EXAMPLES: directory of course.  C > would the 500au be a better choice than the jensen, not as picky?  > any other suggestions?  C Newer generations with more memory are always better, but are more  G expensive than older systems.  The total cost of getting or keeping an  F older system maxed out in capacity may exceed the savings on the base 
 system price.   B When I am doing device driver programming, I prefer to use a test E cluster so that I have one node with stock VMS that I can update the  : shared disks, and the test node a satellite with no votes.  D That way I do not have to spend time rebooting the test system to a > separate disk to fix or analyze problems that cause bugchecks.  F But for talking to serial or parallel devices, I would use either the  network or the USB interface.    -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp  Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Aug 2005 23:09:05 -0700  From: thu.nnguyen@gmail.com 8 Subject: Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffinC Message-ID: <1123135745.530423.148260@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Rob,  E All figures are for Linpack HPC.  Where did you get that the 46 Gflop  figure was for N=1000?  k http://www.realworldtech.com/forums/index.cfm?action=detail&PostNum=3589&Thread=127&entryID=54209&roomID=11    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2005 05:47:41 -0700  From: bob@instantwhip.com 8 Subject: Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffinC Message-ID: <1123159661.802769.320650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   7 what better alternatives??????????????????????????????? @ the most secure, best clustering, most reliable os is still vms!   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2005 13:57:43 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)8 Subject: Re: Intel hammer another nail in Itanium coffin, Message-ID: <3lel6mF10t6nuU1@individual.net>  C In article <1123159661.802769.320650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,  	bob@instantwhip.com writes:9 > what better alternatives??????????????????????????????? B > the most secure, best clustering, most reliable os is still vms!  A Yes, and when there are no machines being made that can run it it F will be even more secure.  Can't break into an OS that no longer runs.   bill      --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 08:57:24 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> 9 Subject: RE: Moving a UAF file from one Alpha to another. R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B1B61@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: DerekB [mailto:derek.boczenowski@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: August 3, 2005 9:03 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 7 > Subject: Moving a UAF file from one Alpha to another.  >=20B > I would like to copy a user authorization file from one Alpha toC > another. I'm moving the file from my production machine to a test H > disaster recovery machine. Which file do I need to grab? All I want toF > make sure is that the users can log into both systems. Do I need any > additional files?  >=20	 > Thanks!  > -Derek Boczenowski >=20 >=20   Derek,  F I would recommend you look at the same files as what would be required0 to be shared when creating a common system disk.  
 Reference:E http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/6318/6318pro_020.html#env_intro    SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT=20 SYS$SYSTEM:NETPROXY.DAT=20" SYS$SYSTEM:VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA=20  SYS$SYSTEM:NETNODE_REMOTE.DAT=20! SYS$MANAGER:NETNODE_UPDATE.COM=20  SYS$SYSTEM:RIGHTSLIST.DAT=20 SYS$SYSTEM:QMAN$MASTER.DAT  E If you have access to the remote site, you could create a common disk E and use host based volume shadow set to ensure both sites always have  the same data.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:26:47 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk) Subject: Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64 ) Message-ID: <dcsqh6$mkc$1@news.mdx.ac.uk>   s In article <42f14e8d$0$67258$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> writes:  > C >"Norman Lastovica" <norman.lastovica@oracle.com> wrote in message  % >news:42F0EFBF.FFBD8B0B@oracle.com... I >>         Oracle is pleased to announce the availability of Field Test 2 I >>    for it's continuing Rdb 7.2 Beta Program.  The field test of Oracle H >>    Rdb 7.2 is available to run on OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 for HPE >>    Integrity Servers and for OpenVMS for AlphaServer systems.  The E >>    kits are available for download on the Rdb 7.2 Beta program web C >>    site (http://otnbeta.oracle.com/Rdb/index.htm) for registered  >>    Beta customers.  >>@ >>         The Field Test 2 kit includes the following products: >>- >>         - Oracle Rdb for Itanium and Alpha 6 >>         - Oracle CODASYL DBMS for Itanium and Alpha8 >>         - Oracle CDD/Repository for Itanium and AlphaG >>         - Oracle SQL/Services & OCI Services for Rdb for Itanium and  >> AlphaA >>         - Oracle Rdb Native JDBC Drivers for Itanium and Alpha D >>         - Oracle Replication Option for Rdb for Itanium and Alpha- >>         - Oracle Trace for Rdb for Itanium  >>J >>         Oracle expects to release Oracle Rdb Release 7.2 for productionI >>    use in the second half of calendar year 2005.  If you have not done B >>    so already, you can register for the Rdb 7.2 Beta Program by >> visiting J >>    our Beta Program web site (http://otnbeta.oracle.com/Rdb/index.htm). >> >>    Ginger Vollmar% >>    Rdb Beta Programs Administrator  >> --  >> - - - - -2 >> opinions expressed here are mine and mine alone/ >> and certainly are not intended in any way to 2 >> express or represent any opinions or commitment >> of oracle corporation.  >>, >> norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering > E >I really wish that OracleRdb would stop mouthing the HP mantra that  L >Integrity 64 systems are "Industry Standard".  I do not observe widespread M >acceptance of this particular hardware architecture sufficient to merit the   >moniker "Industry Standard".  > L >Upon re-reading - "available to run on OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 for HP < >Integrity Servers" I realise that I may have misunderstood.N >Is Oracle claiming that OpenVMS is somehow industry standard ratehr than the % >Itanic part of HP Integrity Servers?  > I >This quoted phrase is nonsensical to me and must be marketing speak - a   >language I do not master. >   M Unfortunately as Sue Skonetski posted in February 2003 HP's official name for  OpenVMS on Itanium is   ! "hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64"   O which should be used in any title, heading or first mention in body text of the  product.     see   K http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/msg/de60d6b4edb4bfd2?hl=en&           
 David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University       >Dr. Dweeb.  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:46:24 GMT 5 From: rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) ) Subject: Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64 L Message-ID: <rdeininger-0408050646210001@user-105n84g.dialup.mindspring.com>  I In article <42f16031$0$67257$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" ( <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> wrote:  M >> "OpenVMS Industry Standard 64" is the formal name of the operating system. N >> Yes, it's kinda annoying, but don't blame Oracle for it; if they're making  >> aM >> formal press release, they have to call it by the name its owner calls it.  >> > G >OK. That is information I did not possess.  Thanks. Ginger & Norm are  	 >excused. I >Now, please knife the idiot who coined that phrase and the intellectual  % >lightweights who authorised its use.  >   >I will now go outside and puke.  J "OpenVMS Industry Standard 64" is indeed the name of the operating system.  J Nobody particularly likes it.  The "idiot" (your term) who came up with itG doesn't like it either.   All the reasonable names run up against Intel J trademark problems, and getting permission to use them would have requiredH some poor soul to spend months dealing with lawyers in at least two big,F dumb corporations, with no guarantee of success.  Meanwhile V8.2 would% have been held up waiting for a name.   H But this was more information you did not possess, so naturally you just3 assume other folks are idiots and should be knifed.    Go knife yourself.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:36:32 -0400 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>) Subject: Re: Rdb 72 FT2 for Alpha and I64 = Message-ID: <iIKdnVsJzaJcYGzfRVn-gw@metrocastcablevision.com>    Robert Deininger wrote:    ...   1     All the reasonable names run up against Intel  > trademark problems  7 You mean that Intel has actually trademarked 'Itanic'?!   8 Or does that fail your personal test for reasonableness?   - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 08:46:16 GMT % From: "Safir" <axica_nopub@yahoo.com> K Subject: Re: What is DKA100:XQPCACHE, Extent cache, etc., from SH DEV D/FU? 2 Message-ID: <sBkIe.9833$HS5.3907@news.cpqcorp.net>  4 > Docs? You want DOCS...  Slight hints in the sysgen     You can try this book :  VMS File System Internals  Kirby McCOY  EY-F575E-DP 
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