1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 25 Aug 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 474       Contents:, about allocation and deallocation of  memory0 Re: about allocation and deallocation of  memoryP Re: Cerner hopefully is using Zotob to show why hospitals should run VMS! VMS! V* Re: Chaining a .COM  or .EXE from an image Re: encryption for backup  Re: Ghostscript & Fonts  Re: Ghostscript & Fonts * Re: HP to dump itanium - bring back alpha?* Re: HP to dump itanium - bring back alpha?2 Re: MMS V3.5 v. ODS5: Unexpected case-sensitivity?2 Re: MMS V3.5 v. ODS5: Unexpected case-sensitivity?D Re: OpenVMS - Java - XML: Content is not allowed in trailing sectionD Re: OpenVMS - Java - XML: Content is not allowed in trailing section Printer for Vaxstation 4000 VLC  Queue Manager Question Re: Queue Manager Question Re: Queue Manager Question! Re: Simh. How to triple the speed ! Re: Simh. How to triple the speed ! Re: Simh. How to triple the speed ! Re: Simh. How to triple the speed  Unicode on VMS Re: Unicode on VMS Re: Unicode on VMS Re: Unicode on VMS Re: Upgrading memory in DS20E 9 US Govt hack attacks from China rising ... on VMS I hope!   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 01:01:38 -0700' From: "saee" <aditi.hatwalne@gmail.com> 5 Subject: about allocation and deallocation of  memory C Message-ID: <1124954395.491772.222910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi,   / I am creating page file memory with sys$crmpsc.  flags used for sys$crmpsc are A SEC$M_GBL | SEC$M_DZRO | SEC$M_EXPREG | SEC$M_WRT | SEC$M_PAGFIL; > I dellocate this memory using sys$deltva and sys$dgblsc calls.  C When I reallocate this memory I get new addresses. I wanted to know 5 memory is reused or not? What is tobe done for reuse?    TIA, Aditi    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 13:02:28 +0200. From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)9 Subject: Re: about allocation and deallocation of  memory + Message-ID: <N$tvLgAuLTmU@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   m In article <1124954395.491772.222910@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "saee" <aditi.hatwalne@gmail.com> writes: 1 > I am creating page file memory with sys$crmpsc.  > flags used for sys$crmpsc are C > SEC$M_GBL | SEC$M_DZRO | SEC$M_EXPREG | SEC$M_WRT | SEC$M_PAGFIL; @ > I dellocate this memory using sys$deltva and sys$dgblsc calls. > E > When I reallocate this memory I get new addresses. I wanted to know 7 > memory is reused or not? What is tobe done for reuse?    = I assume You mean to reuse the address-space, not the memory:   ; don't specify SEC$M_EXPREG (which maps some unused virtual  E address range), but map the global section to a statically allocated  F address range , like a Fortran named common, or in C a global variable?  (array or structure), using the inadr argument of the $crmpsc   system service.     --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:29:16 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Y Subject: Re: Cerner hopefully is using Zotob to show why hospitals should run VMS! VMS! V 3 Message-ID: <IwDu$Bnt47U6@eisner.encompasserve.org>   s In article <430ce096$0$67255$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> writes: 
 > Z wrote: >> bob@instantwhip.com wrote: 6 >>> you can on vms because vms doesn't get viruses ... >> >> Says who? > L > I believe that about 15 years ago someone demonstrated the feasibility of I > developing a VMS virus, but I was not at that DECUS so I do not recall  ' > details, just second hand references.   E    I have a friend who took a class on virii using a VMS system.  The E    class members all had privileged accounts so they could test thier 
    work.    ;    I have lots of unprivileged accounts on my systems.  8-)    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:40:34 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 3 Subject: Re: Chaining a .COM  or .EXE from an image 3 Message-ID: <l1cw1IMqoVBV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   T In article <AVXTEs9CFk4H@eisner.encompasserve.org>, briggs@encompasserve.org writes:V > In article <lF23RyUrVz4X@eisner.encompasserve.org>, briggs@encompasserve.org writes:H >> there is no privilege that allows you to exceed the access mode checkC >> on a system service call that contains an access mode parameter.  > F > OOps.  I forgot about SYSNAM and $CRELNM.  And if there's one, there > are probably more..   D    Some of the LIB$ routines are callbacks to the CLI so they can doF    things for you in supervisor mode.  For example from user mode code@    you can lib$set_logical a supervisor mode name, but you can't,    sys$crelnm anything other than user mode.  G    It can be lots of fun for a non privileged user to test a sys$crelnm C    call for a process logical since they can't look for it while it 
    exists.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:08:29 -0700 ( From: Jeff Cameron <roktsci@comcast.net>" Subject: Re: encryption for backup0 Message-ID: <BF32AE6D.1309A%roktsci@comcast.net>  K On 8/23/05 11:14 AM, in article 430b6773$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com, "Guy Peleg" , <guy.peleg@remove_this_header@hp.com> wrote:   > , > <JimStrehlow@data911.com> wrote in message? > news:1124743370.561929.132860@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... 4 >> I am interested in OpenVMS ENCRYPTION for BACKUP.I >> I might test the product to recommend to some of our customers who may  >> be interested.  >>    >> I noticed a Nov. 2004 article9 >> http://www.openvms.org/phorum/read.php?f=5&i=356&t=356  >>  D >> How accurate is the reported problem with encrypting/decrypting a >> BACKUP save_set?  >> Has that been fixed? 9 >> Do YOU use Encryption for OpenVMS on backup save_sets?  >>   > E > Support for encrypting backup saveset is integrated into the BACKUP H > utility. I'm not sure why the sequence mentioned in the problem report; > fails, however if you'd like to encrypt your savesets use  > $BACKUP/ENCRYPT. > : > With the next version of the O/S BACKUP will support AES
 > encryption.  > = > And last but not least, ENCRYPT is free if your are running  > V8.2 >  > Guy  >  > J The Backup Encryption from "Encryption for VMS" works on 7.3-x, as well asJ 8.2. We have done rather substantial testing with it in 7.3-x and did findL one problem. When the /ENCRYPT qualifier is used with the /JOURNAL qualifierK it aborts with an access violation, but this has recently been fixed in the ( most recent BACKUP update for VMS 7.3-2.   Jeff   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:35:54 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: Ghostscript & Fonts3 Message-ID: <rkILi2bMhX4i@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <dehq14$6i8$1@news.BelWue.DE>, gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes: > Hello, > K > I downloaded Ghostscript from http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/pcsi_kits/ and O > installed it. I defined the logicals GS_LIB and GS_FONTS. While the first one M > is recognized, the second one is not. If I run GS in its [.FONTS] directory H > all is fine. If I run it in an other directory I get errors like this: > > > /HelveticaCan't find (or can't open) font file n019003l.pfb.G > Can't find (or can't open) font file [.Resource]Font.NimbusSanL-Regu. 7 > Can't find (or can't open) font file NimbusSanL-Regu. G > Can't find (or can't open) font file [.Resource]Font.NimbusSanL-Regu. 7 > Can't find (or can't open) font file NimbusSanL-Regu.  > N > This error occurs with the provided example file WATERFAL.PS . Thus, what is
 > wrong here?   "    It's Thursday and it's raining.  I    Really now, could you post some info about how you defined the logical D    name?  We DO want to help you, but we can't all snoop your systemB    based on it's RF signals to see what you might have done wrong.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:28:21 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)  Subject: Re: Ghostscript & Fonts) Message-ID: <deko2l$klt$1@news.BelWue.DE>   q In article <rkILi2bMhX4i@eisner.encompasserve.org>, koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: i >In article <dehq14$6i8$1@news.BelWue.DE>, gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes: 	 >> Hello,  >>  L >> I downloaded Ghostscript from http://mvb.saic.com/freeware/pcsi_kits/ andP >> installed it. I defined the logicals GS_LIB and GS_FONTS. While the first oneN >> is recognized, the second one is not. If I run GS in its [.FONTS] directoryI >> all is fine. If I run it in an other directory I get errors like this:  >>  ? >> /HelveticaCan't find (or can't open) font file n019003l.pfb. H >> Can't find (or can't open) font file [.Resource]Font.NimbusSanL-Regu.8 >> Can't find (or can't open) font file NimbusSanL-Regu.H >> Can't find (or can't open) font file [.Resource]Font.NimbusSanL-Regu.8 >> Can't find (or can't open) font file NimbusSanL-Regu. >>  O >> This error occurs with the provided example file WATERFAL.PS . Thus, what is  >> wrong here? > # >   It's Thursday and it's raining.  > J >   Really now, could you post some info about how you defined the logicalE >   name?  We DO want to help you, but we can't all snoop your system C >   based on it's RF signals to see what you might have done wrong.   M I solved the problem. Thanks to Sepp Huber who posted the solution. Obviously I GS_FONTS isn't honored at all. I had to define a logical list with GS_LIB K (system wide in my case) pointing to both directories, [.LIB] and [.FONTS].    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:03:24 +0200 3 From: "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202@sneakemail.com> 3 Subject: Re: HP to dump itanium - bring back alpha? = Message-ID: <430d7b4c$0$67263$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>    JF Mezei wrote:  > Karsten Nyblad wrote: B >> in general.  People are buying Itanic for Windows and and LinuxA >> because it has a performance advantage.  My guess is that that C >> market will disappear as fast as the market for Windows on Alpha 0 >> disappeared when x86 became as fast as Alpha. >  > B > Lets not forget that many of the well publicised Windows-on-IA64E > announcements happened because of marketing deals resulting in very 6 > low acquisition costs for the high profile customer. > C > The limited amount of Windows software on that IA64 thing greatly B > reduces its target market to only customers wishing to run a few* > specific apps on a farm of IA64 servers.  G I have not looked, but does anyone know just how much IA64 software is  : available for Win2003/Itanium (or whatever it is called) ?G I also wonder whether it is greater or lesser than the amount that was  E available for the Alpha just prior to the Win2000/Alpha cancellation.   G This should be a good indication of the viability of the platform as a   Windows vehicle.  
 Dr. Dweeb    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 09:06:33 -0700 From: icerq4a@spray.se3 Subject: Re: HP to dump itanium - bring back alpha? C Message-ID: <1124985993.740956.296070@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Dr. Dweeb wrote: > JF Mezei wrote:  > > Karsten Nyblad wrote: D > >> in general.  People are buying Itanic for Windows and and LinuxC > >> because it has a performance advantage.  My guess is that that E > >> market will disappear as fast as the market for Windows on Alpha 2 > >> disappeared when x86 became as fast as Alpha. > >  > > D > > Lets not forget that many of the well publicised Windows-on-IA64G > > announcements happened because of marketing deals resulting in very 8 > > low acquisition costs for the high profile customer. > > E > > The limited amount of Windows software on that IA64 thing greatly D > > reduces its target market to only customers wishing to run a few, > > specific apps on a farm of IA64 servers. > H > I have not looked, but does anyone know just how much IA64 software is< > available for Win2003/Itanium (or whatever it is called) ?  D I have looked a bit. Not much. (although IA32-EL work very good. ;))  H > I also wonder whether it is greater or lesser than the amount that wasG > available for the Alpha just prior to the Win2000/Alpha cancellation.   E Alpha had low amount and Itanium have a low amount. Difficult to say.   H > This should be a good indication of the viability of the platform as a > Windows vehicle.  < Windows on Itanium is today mainly a large database vehicle.> There is no reason to run it unless you have a large database.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:05:30 -0400 - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> ; Subject: Re: MMS V3.5 v. ODS5: Unexpected case-sensitivity? 1 Message-ID: <N-GdnUU-w4JhOJDeRVn-2A@adelphia.com>    Steven M. Schweda wrote:J >    Ok.  I tried this at ITRC, with disappointing results, so here's yourG > big chance to look clever between tirades about the future of Itanium  > and other such noise.  > % >    The situation: VMS Alpha V7.3-2,  >  > ALPX $ mms /idI > %MMS-I-IDENT, MMS V3.5  2003 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.  > 
 > ALPX $ dire  > % > Directory ALPX$DKA100:[UTILITY.mms]  >  > descrip.mms;3 test.c;1 >  > Total of 2 files.  >  >    I didn't expect this: >  > ALPX $ mms /ext N > %MMS-F-GWKNOPRN, There are no known sources for the current target TEST.MMSD >  > ALPX $ rename test.c test.C  >  > ALPX $ mms /ext  > D > CC /NOLIST /NOOBJECT test.C /MMS_DEPENDENCIES = (FILE = TEST.MMSD) > Done.  >  > ALPX $ type descrip.mms  >  > SUFFIXES_BEFORE .c .mmsd >  > MOD = test > TARG = test.mmsd* > DEP = $(FOREACH NAME, $(MOD), $(NAME).c) > 
 > c.mmsd :* > 	$(CC) /NOLIST /NOOBJECT $(MMS$SOURCE) -. > 	 /MMS_DEPENDENCIES = (FILE = $(MMS$TARGET)) >  > TARGET : $(TARG)  > 	@ write sys$output "   Done." >  >  > ALPX $ type test.c > main() {}  >  > G >    If there's an update or work-around for the failure, please let me  > know.  > G >    I don't mean to sound grumpy, but if your suggestion is related to I > SET PROCESS /CASE_LOOKUP or /PARSE_STYLE, do us all a favor and test it B > first on these data before making the suggestion.  Also, if yourJ > suggestion has anything to do with MMK, tell me where to get the versionF > which handles the MMS /EXTENDED_SYNTAX predefined functions (such asH > FOREACH).  I realize that the FOREACH here isn't really doing anythingG > in this reduced test case, but it is needed in the real job.  (Sadly, I > the ITRC rating system does not allow the assignment of negative points H > to people who propose defective solutions without having tried them on) > the test case in the original posting.)  > I >    History:  Now that there's a Zip which can preserve the case of ODS5 I > file names, I thought that it would be clever to make a Wget 1.10.1 kit H > on an ODS5 file system, so that it would be easier to use on a non-VMSH > system (where file-name case matters, and multiple dots in a file name > are common).  H The copy of ZIP I pulled off of Hunter's archive would not preserve the F case of ODS-5 volumes.  The comments in the source said that it broke ! unzip so the feature was removed.   G >    Imagine my surprise (and disappointment) when I discovered that it @ > all seemed to work delightfully, except that I could no longer$ > auto-generate the dependency file. > I >    I assume that this is a hopeless defect, and that the fix will be in I > the next MMS release (at best), but if anyone has a clever work-around, D > I'd be pleased to hear it.  (Or, if I'm a moron, and did something> > stupid, I'd happily settle for having that explained to me.)  ) A fix request has been requested for MMS.   B Work around #1 you have found, rename the extension to upper case.  I Work around #2 is to use explicit rules in the .MMS file for each target   with it's sources.  A Work around #3 is to use the current version of the freeware MMK.    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:52:30 -0500 (CDT) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda); Subject: Re: MMS V3.5 v. ODS5: Unexpected case-sensitivity? 2 Message-ID: <05082506523069_20A0026A@antinode.org>  - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>   J > The copy of ZIP I pulled off of Hunter's archive would not preserve the H > case of ODS-5 volumes.  The comments in the source said that it broke # > unzip so the feature was removed.   9    And that was version ...?  ('[Un]Zip "-v"' tells all.)   C    I was using "Zip 3.0e BETA (August 2nd 2005)" (which is publicly D available) and "UnZip 6.00c12 BETA of 15 Aug 05" (which is not), butH even the latest released "UnZip 5.52 of 28 February 2005" seems to do okF except for multi-dot (and other exotic ODS5 extended) file names which@ it still reduces to ODS2-compatible form.  The Zip 3.0e kit, forD example, seems to have only one problem file name (and it's MVS, not VMS):   1                        UnZip 5.52   UnZip 6.00c12 2 ALPX $ backup /compare [.ZIP30E...] [.zip30e_0...] %BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening H ALPX$DKA100:[utility.SOURCE.zip.zip30e_0.CMSMVS]README_MVS.LE;1 as input -RMS-E-FNF, file not found  6    UnZip 6.00c12 BETA produces instead (as it should):  : Directory ALPX$DKA100:[UTILITY.SOURCE.zip.zip30e_0.cmsmvs]  G README^.MVS.LE;1           25  26-OCT-1998 20:51:58.00  (RWED,RWED,RE,)     D    I don't think that case preservation was the fundamental problem,D rather the inability of the old UnZip to create the more exotic ODS5H extended file names.  Even worse, Zip would store the caret ("^") escapeA characters in the archive when it was created.  ODS5 support (not G including Unicode) is a (claimed) feature of the someday-to-be-released H Zip3/UnZip6 programs.  As "UnZip -t" on any [Un]Zip kit shows, all theseD archives have mixed-case file names, so simple mixed-case names wereF never a problem for UnZip (if you didn't expect them to come out rightH on VMS).  I'm not so sure what's true about UnZip kits, as my attempt to compare some did this:  3                        UnZip 5.52     UnZip 6.00c12 6 ALPX $ backup /compare [.unzip552...] [.unzip552_0...] %BACKUP-E-OPENIN, error opening C ALPX$DKA100:[utility.SOURCE.zip.unzip552_0.ACORN]acorn.c;1 as input 8 -RMS-F-CHN, assign channel system service request failed, -SYSTEM-F-NOIOCHAN, no I/O channel available   Everything's complicated.       But I digress.   + > A fix request has been requested for MMS.       That's a start.  D > Work around #1 you have found, rename the extension to upper case.  G    Too unpleasant.  Defeats the purpose of using an ODS5 file system to  preserve case.  K > Work around #2 is to use explicit rules in the .MMS file for each target   > with it's sources.  D    Much too unpleasant.  And that's "its sources".  (Do you also use2 "hi's" "her's", "their's", "our's", and "your's"?)  C > Work around #3 is to use the current version of the freeware MMK.   A    MMK lacks the MMS /EXTENDED features which are needed for this D description file.  In fact, the basic UnZip and Zip build proceduresB seem to work with MMK and MMS (unless I missed something), but the@ (MMS-only -- /EXTENDED, you see) automatic dependency generationG procedure fails.  (The test case I provided is a tiny subset thereof.)  F Of course, the fancy MMS /EXTENDED features were used largely to avoidF having to use explicit rules in the .MMS file for each target with its% sources, so it's really all my fault.   H    My current plan, pending an MMS fix, is to create the dependency fileG on an ODS2 disk, and copy it over to an ODS5 disk as needed, which is a 
 real pain.  I    I don't know what to do about the recently discovered BACKUP problem.  C This system does have most or all of the latest patches, including:    VMS732_BACKUP V4.0 VMS732_F11X V3.0 VMS732_SYS V7.0  VMS732_UPDATE V4.0 VMS732_VMSMUP V1.0  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:55:36 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) M Subject: Re: OpenVMS - Java - XML: Content is not allowed in trailing section 3 Message-ID: <kXxHHkBDALyh@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <IghPe.4433$R5.793@news.indigo.ie>, "Andoni" <no_spam_please@andoni-at-ireland-dot-com.com> writes: > : > Here we get an error message from the XML parser saying: > J > SEVERE: Parse Fatal Error at line 56 column 1: Content is not allowed in > trailing section. L > org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: Content is not allowed in trailing section. >  at L > org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.createSAXParseException(Unknown	 > Source) K >  at org.apache.xerces.util.ErrorHandlerWrapper.fatalError(Unknown Source)   G    I don't know if it's related, by my colleagues who do XML on Windows C    say the parser is only happy with UNIX format (Stream-LF) files.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 06:20:23 -0700 From: dooleys@snowy.net.auM Subject: Re: OpenVMS - Java - XML: Content is not allowed in trailing section C Message-ID: <1124976023.073725.276240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   ) If you look towards the end of this link, ' it shows you how to get rid of the FFFF = http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/openvms_text_files.html  Phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:27:39 -0400 ? From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <david@hpaq.net> ( Subject: Printer for Vaxstation 4000 VLC0 Message-ID: <11groonira3m0da@corp.supernews.com>  I I have a customer who needs a good printer to replace DEC Laser  2100 and  5100  A Any suggestions as to what could be a reliable and cost effective 
 replacement ?  Needs a serial port    Thanks       --     David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Cell: 912 447 6622 X252  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com% ===================================== < All orders are subject to the following terms and conditions. of sale. These should be read before ordering.% http://www.islandco.com/warranty.html    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:24:01 +0200 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> Subject: Queue Manager Question 5 Message-ID: <1124979846.895199@proxy.dienste.wien.at>   
 Hi to all,  2 I have a question regarding the VMS queue manager.  @ We have a special device to which print jobs are sent by several
 applications. K However, it is important that these jobs aren't sent too fast and that they  are J sent in a given order. So I have created a queue (let's call it ACP_QUEUE)F which is always stopped and all applications submit their jobs in this
 ACP_QUEUE.I At regular intervals, a process looks in the ACP_QUEUE and,  if there are  jobs, K submits them to the target queue while waiting several seconds between each  job  submission.   J This solutions works good for most situations, there is, however, sometime> a problem. In the process, I use F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_QUEUE", ...@ "PENDING_JOB_COUNT" ) and, in a loop, F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB",...D "ENTRY_NUMBER") to get the entry numbers of the jobs to be requeued.A I would expect to get the entry numbers in ascending entry number  (submission J time) order, but this is not always the case. For example, I get this from! F$GETQUI (in exactly this order):    Entry #      Submission time ---------------------------  1942         15:23:03.73 1940         15:23.03.40 1938         15:22:59.60  K Therefore, in my process, entry 1942 is submitted first, but this is wrong; 6 entry 1938 should be the one which is submitted first!  H So my question: is there a way to force F$GETQUI to return entry numbers! in the order they were submitted?   5 MTIA for each anwser, and kind greetings from Vienna,    Ferry  --   Ing. Ferry Bolhar % Municipality of Vienna, Department 14  A-1010 Vienna / AUSTRIA  E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:52:01 -0700$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com># Subject: Re: Queue Manager Question C Message-ID: <1124981521.696602.185050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Ferry Bolhar wrote:  > Hi to all, > 4 > I have a question regarding the VMS queue manager. > B > We have a special device to which print jobs are sent by several > applications. M > However, it is important that these jobs aren't sent too fast and that they  > are L > sent in a given order. So I have created a queue (let's call it ACP_QUEUE)H > which is always stopped and all applications submit their jobs in this > ACP_QUEUE.K > At regular intervals, a process looks in the ACP_QUEUE and,  if there are  > jobs, M > submits them to the target queue while waiting several seconds between each  > job 
 > submission.  > L > This solutions works good for most situations, there is, however, sometime@ > a problem. In the process, I use F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_QUEUE", ...B > "PENDING_JOB_COUNT" ) and, in a loop, F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB",...F > "ENTRY_NUMBER") to get the entry numbers of the jobs to be requeued.C > I would expect to get the entry numbers in ascending entry number 
 > (submission L > time) order, but this is not always the case. For example, I get this from# > F$GETQUI (in exactly this order):  >  > Entry #      Submission time > ---------------------------  > 1942         15:23:03.73 > 1940         15:23.03.40 > 1938         15:22:59.60 > M > Therefore, in my process, entry 1942 is submitted first, but this is wrong; 8 > entry 1938 should be the one which is submitted first! > J > So my question: is there a way to force F$GETQUI to return entry numbers# > in the order they were submitted?     % Check out SET QUEUE/SCHEDULE=NOSIZE !   B You may be able to submit print jobs directly to the printer queue  after running the above command.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 16:58:37 +0200. From: huber@NOBODY-mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)# Subject: Re: Queue Manager Question + Message-ID: <SC5KDufbc0k2@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>   d In article <1124979846.895199@proxy.dienste.wien.at>, "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> writes:4 > I have a question regarding the VMS queue manager. > B > We have a special device to which print jobs are sent by several > applications. M > However, it is important that these jobs aren't sent too fast and that they  > are L > sent in a given order. So I have created a queue (let's call it ACP_QUEUE)H > which is always stopped and all applications submit their jobs in this > ACP_QUEUE.K > At regular intervals, a process looks in the ACP_QUEUE and,  if there are  > jobs, M > submits them to the target queue while waiting several seconds between each  > job 
 > submission.  > L > This solutions works good for most situations, there is, however, sometime@ > a problem. In the process, I use F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_QUEUE", ...B > "PENDING_JOB_COUNT" ) and, in a loop, F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB",...F > "ENTRY_NUMBER") to get the entry numbers of the jobs to be requeued.C > I would expect to get the entry numbers in ascending entry number 
 > (submission L > time) order, but this is not always the case. For example, I get this from# > F$GETQUI (in exactly this order):  >  > Entry #      Submission time > ---------------------------  > 1942         15:23:03.73 > 1940         15:23.03.40 > 1938         15:22:59.60 > M > Therefore, in my process, entry 1942 is submitted first, but this is wrong; 8 > entry 1938 should be the one which is submitted first! > J > So my question: is there a way to force F$GETQUI to return entry numbers# > in the order they were submitted?  >   @ Short of finding out if f$getqui has such possibility (I doubt),? You could init the queue with /SCHEDULE=NOSIZE, because this is C probably the reason for ordering entries other than by submit time. B And there is also the /PRIORITY qualifier for submit, which might  influence the entry ordering...    --  @    Joseph Huber , Muenchen,Germany:  http://www.huber-joseph.de/   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Aug 2005 08:57:46 GMT/ From: Thierry Dussuet <thierry@dussuet.lugs.ch> * Subject: Re: Simh. How to triple the speed1 Message-ID: <slrndgr20a.1r34.thierry@MARS.Family>   7 On 2005-08-25, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:  > healyzh@aracnet.com wrote:, >> Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> wrote: >>   >>>$! CALCULATE_VUPS:  >>>$! 
 >>>$ set noon + >>>$ orig_privs        = f$setprv("ALTPRI") + >>>$ process_priority  = f$getjpi(0,"PRIB") N >>>$ cpu_multiplier    = 10                        ! VAX = 10 - Alpha/AXP = 40N >>>$ cpu_round_add     =  1                        ! VAX =  1 - Alpha/AXP =  9 > < > This is a AlphaStation 200 4/233, hardware model type 1151
 > $ @calcvups ( > Approximate System VUPs Rating :  22.8 > K > I'd stir the pot concerning VAX vs Alpha, but benchmarks I've run in the  # > past show the Alpha to be faster.  > 3 > Me thinks the DCL procedure needs some tinkering.   : Just the two lines above, cpu_multiplier and cpu_round_add   Thierry    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 04:31:20 -0700# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> * Subject: Re: Simh. How to triple the speedC Message-ID: <1124969479.977860.307380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > 8 > Bugger the Weendoze exes... where are the OS X exes??? >  Here's one!   F I have a simh V3.4 Vax running VMS V7.3 on my PowerMac G4/433 under OSD X V10.3.9. No problems compiling, no major ones running simh itself,E and [of course] none whatsoever with VMS. I haven't tried any kind of C benchmarks but can say that performance is not breathtaking, though G subjectively I think it's faster than a speeding 11/780. (Haven't tried G it leaping over tall buildings in a single bound, and it's probably not ! as powerful as a "loco Motif" :-)        Galen   B P.S. simh uses pcap to hook into a Mac OS network interface. I didG discover and fix a minor glitch that caused simh not so see some of the = available interfaces. The fix hasn't shown up in the official  distribution yet.   D Also, I've had a lot of trouble getting TCP/IP (Pathworks) to run. IE have dedicated a 2nd Ethernet port on my Mac to simh, hooked into the B same D-Link NAT firewall/router as the primary Ethernet.  For someF reason pcap thinks the interface is down unless OS X has an IP addressG assigned to the interface. And if you do so, THEN you get "duplicate IP G address" messages on the VMS side because TCPware sees responses to its E ARP requests coming from the OS X-assigned IP address. And the router  reports IP address spoofing!   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 07:47:31 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: Simh. How to triple the speed3 Message-ID: <P9VC9LrGPTxQ@eisner.encompasserve.org>   G In article <deit0o03h4@enews3.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com writes: ( > Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> wrote:I >> I don't see much in way of threading (it's there, but kind of minimal) J >> with SIMH, and the load average jumps to 1.0 when I run it, so I gatherI >> it's not yielding the CPU even when 'idle' unlike with other emulators B >> like VMware. That indirectly suggests it's missing out on other# >> performance optimization tricks.  > J > SIMH expects 100% of the CPU, I believe part of the issue is the knowingN > when the emulated system is actually ideal.  IIRC this has been solved underG > KLH10 and possibly modified copies of SIMH by modifying TOP20 itself.   F    You mean when it's idle?  Some VAX simulators (both Charon and SIMHG    IIRC) will detect the loop that VMS goes into at the end of shutting E    down, and break out of the simulation.  IMHO there should be a way F    to detect entry into the idle loop and suspend the simulation untilC    the next interrupt (which is the only way to get out of the idle F    loop).  Maybe the simulations require host CPU to poll for incoming1    interrupts (which may not be host interrupts).    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 08:45:38 -0700# From: "Galen" <gltackett@gmail.com> * Subject: Re: Simh. How to triple the speedC Message-ID: <1124984738.620009.174900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Bob Koehler wrote:I > In article <deit0o03h4@enews3.newsguy.com>, healyzh@aracnet.com writes: L > > SIMH expects 100% of the CPU, I believe part of the issue is the knowingP > > when the emulated system is actually ideal.  IIRC this has been solved underI > > KLH10 and possibly modified copies of SIMH by modifying TOP20 itself.  > H >    You mean when it's idle?  Some VAX simulators (both Charon and SIMHI >    IIRC) will detect the loop that VMS goes into at the end of shutting G >    down, and break out of the simulation.  IMHO there should be a way H >    to detect entry into the idle loop and suspend the simulation untilE >    the next interrupt (which is the only way to get out of the idle H >    loop).  Maybe the simulations require host CPU to poll for incoming3 >    interrupts (which may not be host interrupts).   6 A very preliminary idea along this line, in two parts.  C First, maybe simh could implement a simple mechanism (say, a simple E minded I/O "device") by which a hosted system (not necessarily a VAX) G could specify something along either or both of these lines: A) a range G of physical addresses where the idle loop lives (for systems where this A is possible); B) a register bit that the hosted system can set to C indicate it is going idle. These would allow simh to detect an idle = condition, though I don't know how practical this would be to 
 implement.  C Second, a small piece of code to execute on the hosted system. This D would take care of providing simh the information in A) or B) above.> How practical would either of these be on a hosted VMS system?  D As you say, Bob, I think simh itself would periodically have to wakeG itself in order to check if there are interrupts to be generated within F the hosted system. Otherwise the hosted VMS system clock would freeze,C and all other kinds of dire things would happen inside VMS as well.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 08:27:37 -0700( From: "denny" <denny_rich@ameritech.net> Subject: Unicode on VMS C Message-ID: <1124983657.724061.213850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D A client has now asked me 3 times in the last year and a half, "DoesB VMS support UNICODE?", or "Can VMS handle UNICODE?". There must beF something going on as the question always comes back and always in the
 same form.  G Each time I have said that "bytes is bytes".  You can pack bytes into a D file and the bytes can have any one of 256 different values.  Later,G when you want to retrieve these bytes as 2-byte units, VMS will happily  comply with the request.  A If they really mean, "Is there a VMS application that understands / UNICODE?", then I say, "maybe, but not likely".   D DUMP/WORD or DUMP/BYTE would maybe give something useful, except for7 the 'ascii' interpretation on the right of the display.   D To expect EDT or TPU to do anything useful with UNICODE is a stretchA and will lead to much weeping and gnashing of teeth.  And it will G frighten the children and the animals.  I don't see any "dump/unicode". 3 COPY and BACKUP should be OK. You get the idea.....   C However, if a client writes a custom application, or buys something D that understands UNICODE and can interpret it, AND runs on VMS, thenG the answer would be, "YES, VMS CAN PROVIDE OPERATING SYSTEM SERVICES TO  YOUR APPLICATION."  F I'm asking this august group for an opinion because 1) it is the rightG month to do so, and 2) I can't get the client to really explain what is D needed - hence my answers probably appear to them to be "vague", and
 unfulfilling.   ! Such is the life of a consultant!   ; So....am I missing something? Anything wrong with my logic?    thanks   denny    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:17:11 +0200 3 From: Michael Unger <spam.to.unger@spamgourmet.com>  Subject: Re: Unicode on VMS * Message-ID: <3n6cr8F3e0gU1@individual.net>  # On 2005-08-25 17:27, "denny" wrote:   F > A client has now asked me 3 times in the last year and a half, "DoesD > VMS support UNICODE?", or "Can VMS handle UNICODE?". There must beH > something going on as the question always comes back and always in the > same form.   Which UNICODE??   G ISO-10646 (which version and amendments?), UTF-7 (RFC 2152), UTF-8 (RFC B 3629), UTF-16 (RFC 2781), or even UTF-18 (RFC 4042)? Or UTF-32 aka UCS-4, as defined in ISO-10646?    > [...]   ' For a first introduction to Unicode see 2 <http://www.unicode.org/standard/principles.html>.   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. 5 My e-mail account at DECUS Munich is no longer valid.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 12:14:40 -0500B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) Subject: Re: Unicode on VMS 3 Message-ID: <dab8djfOFdDg@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <1124983657.724061.213850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "denny" <denny_rich@ameritech.net> writes:F > A client has now asked me 3 times in the last year and a half, "DoesD > VMS support UNICODE?", or "Can VMS handle UNICODE?". There must beH > something going on as the question always comes back and always in the > same form. >   6 Which character sets does your client want to render ?   UTF-8 or 16 bit unicode ?   H There's a general move to having applications store UI data in a UnicodeH format. Just to take one example, the GUI toolkit GTK has made this moveG and has a full rendering infrastructure (Pango - http://www.pango.org )  to support it.  H > I'm asking this august group for an opinion because 1) it is the rightI > month to do so, and 2) I can't get the client to really explain what is F > needed - hence my answers probably appear to them to be "vague", and > unfulfilling.  >   D Is your client actually just storing Unicode data on VMS, or is your7 client expecting VMS to render Unicode character sets ?   H You need to ask this question and get an accurate answer. If your clientI can't explain then you need to ask them why they are asking the question, H the issue that's forced the question to be asked needs to be understood.   Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       7 Microsoft: The Standard Oil Company of the 21st century    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:44:44 GMT 7 From: John Malmberg <malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp>  Subject: Re: Unicode on VMS 2 Message-ID: <gsnPe.11123$IM1.289@news.cpqcorp.net>   denny wrote:F > A client has now asked me 3 times in the last year and a half, "DoesD > VMS support UNICODE?", or "Can VMS handle UNICODE?". There must beH > something going on as the question always comes back and always in the > same form. > I > Each time I have said that "bytes is bytes".  You can pack bytes into a F > file and the bytes can have any one of 256 different values.  Later,I > when you want to retrieve these bytes as 2-byte units, VMS will happily  > comply with the request. > C > If they really mean, "Is there a VMS application that understands 1 > UNICODE?", then I say, "maybe, but not likely".   D There are several.  Perl is just one of them.  Python also seems to  understand Unicode.   ( ODS-5 volumes support Unicode filenames.  F > DUMP/WORD or DUMP/BYTE would maybe give something useful, except for9 > the 'ascii' interpretation on the right of the display.  > F > To expect EDT or TPU to do anything useful with UNICODE is a stretchC > and will lead to much weeping and gnashing of teeth.  And it will I > frighten the children and the animals.  I don't see any "dump/unicode". 5 > COPY and BACKUP should be OK. You get the idea.....   B Does "cat" or "vi" on LINUX handle UNICODE?  How about notepad on  Microsoft Windows?  , How do you view Unicode files on LINUX/UNIX?  E > However, if a client writes a custom application, or buys something F > that understands UNICODE and can interpret it, AND runs on VMS, thenI > the answer would be, "YES, VMS CAN PROVIDE OPERATING SYSTEM SERVICES TO  > YOUR APPLICATION."  8 The documentation is at HTTP://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc  ? Select the link for the "OpenVMS operating system" on the side.   C The HP C Run-Time Library reference Manual shows the routines that  A support Unicode, wide characters and other internationalizations.   E The Compaq C Run-Time library Utilities manual describes the GENCAT,   ICONV, and LOCALE utilities.  B See also the I18N kit that can optionally be installed on OpenVMS.  H > I'm asking this august group for an opinion because 1) it is the rightI > month to do so, and 2) I can't get the client to really explain what is F > needed - hence my answers probably appear to them to be "vague", and > unfulfilling.  > # > Such is the life of a consultant!  > = > So....am I missing something? Anything wrong with my logic?   : Not quite sure what type of an opinion you are asking for.  A I really have not done anything with Unicode except compile some  D programs that use it on OpenVMS, and that part of the programs just ) worked with out me having to do anything.    -John ! malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq.hp  Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 08:41:03 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) & Subject: Re: Upgrading memory in DS20E, Message-ID: <eqTqsfw8pNvL@malvm9.mala.bc.ca>  D In article <1124932637.398008.129720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, @    "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" <johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com> writes:  B >  Odds are that if you have 2GB then you have 2 banks filled withH > 4x256MB but unfortunately there is no way of telling short of shuttingF > the system down and doing a show memory from the SRM console.  AFAIKD > there is know way to tell the configuration from a running system.  ?     It depends on the vintage of the machine and the history of D when the memory was installed, but I wouldn't be at all surprised toH find a 2GB DS20 that had four 512MB kits in it and therefore was alreadyC full ( the large memory kits have traditionally been more expensive R on a $/MB basis ). I'd seriously recommend opening it up and looking before buying any memory.   F    ps If you are going to buy a 1GB kit for it (4 *256) there's one onC auction on Ebay with a current price of $295. I have no association : with the seller, I just happened across it while browsing.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2005 05:55:03 -0700 From: bob@instantwhip.com B Subject: US Govt hack attacks from China rising ... on VMS I hope!C Message-ID: <1124974503.815355.131310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   $ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9071131/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.474 ************************