1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 28 Aug 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 480       Contents: RE: Adding users best way to start with VMS Re: best way to start with VMS simh with logical networking  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:31:47 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: Adding users R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B2252@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----8 > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@tekavvy.com]=20  > Sent: August 27, 2005 10:06 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Adding users  >=20 > "Main, Kerry" wrote:A > > Hence, the 10-15 minutes required to setup a Windows based=20  > utility toH > > manage the OpenVMS resources *might* be worth it - especially if youB > > have junior Operations and/or support staff that is used to=20
 > Windows GUI  > > mgmt utilities.  >=20 >=20A > Allowing a Windows platform access to security settings of a=20 
 > VMS systems ; > would require a major political fights inside a mature=20  > corporation thatH > understands security. Your 10-15 minutes would be for hackers who wantE > to undermine security by granting a windows box access to sensitive   > security info on a VMS system. >=20  C You need to know OpenVMS passwords to use this Windows utility with  OpenVMS.=20   H Hence, the typical "ensure you have a valid password policy in place for! the appropriate account" applies.   G Again, GUI's are not for everyone or every environment, but where there C are junior operations staff and/or part time admin's managing users H (especially in multi-platform environent), this Windows based tool is an option.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:20:22 +0200 , From: "Peter Huybrechts" <m713007@skynet.be># Subject: best way to start with VMS 5 Message-ID: <4311c824$0$6561$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>    Hi,   K I recently bought a AlphaServer 4000 to get started with OpenVMS, just for  @ my own interest. I got the hobbyist CD, multinet, freeware etc..M Hours I already spent in the online documentation at HP.com, but it seems to  6 me that it is more meant as a sort of reference guide.H So I was wondering if anyone knows a good book that teaches the OpenVMS K architecture, DCL etc. in a nutshell ? (better would be if I could find it   somewhere online or in a pdf).9 My experience level is that of an advanced Unix sysadmin.    Regards, P    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Aug 2005 10:44:54 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ' Subject: Re: best way to start with VMS 3 Message-ID: <j1b4j26etIyP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   d In article <4311c824$0$6561$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>, "Peter Huybrechts" <m713007@skynet.be> writes: > Hi,  > M > I recently bought a AlphaServer 4000 to get started with OpenVMS, just for  B > my own interest. I got the hobbyist CD, multinet, freeware etc..O > Hours I already spent in the online documentation at HP.com, but it seems to  8 > me that it is more meant as a sort of reference guide.  5 Within that documentation, look for the "User Guide".   J > So I was wondering if anyone knows a good book that teaches the OpenVMS M > architecture, DCL etc. in a nutshell ? (better would be if I could find it    > somewhere online or in a pdf).; > My experience level is that of an advanced Unix sysadmin.   @ Thoroughly reading the User Guide should give you perspective onB VMS concepts.  You will undoubtedly conceptualize this in the form< of a comparison to that with which you are familiar on Unix.  E At that point, if you want advanced information about some particular H area of VMS you will have the background to know what terms to look for.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:37:25 GMT ( From: Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net>% Subject: simh with logical networking = Message-ID: <9LlQe.35285$jr4.20516@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>   H One big problem with simh is that it needs a dedicated network card and I an external bridge to communicate back with the host PC (a limitation of   the Windows pcap drivers).  G However colinux (Linux under Windows) supplies its own logical network  I adapter "TAP-Win32 Adapter V8 (colinux)" which Linux then attaches to as  F if it were a real physical ethernet card. Attaching to this from simh ( rather than a dedicated card also works!  F So I now save the use of two ethernet cards and a crossover cable and A all hosts can still communicate. For example Mozilla under Linux  G accessing web pages served by WASD under VMS with the display directed  G to Cygwin/X under Windows. All hosts have internet access with Windows  L providing NAT-routing and incoming services as allowed in firewall settings.  0 There seems to be no performance penalty either.   --  
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