1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 29 Aug 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 482       Contents: RE: Adding users Re: Adding usersD Re: AlphaServer 4100 CPU speed upgrade and/or backplane speed ranges Re: best way to start with VMS Re: best way to start with VMS& Re: DIAGNOSE INSTANCE CODE TRANSLATION" RE: Katrina and disaster tolerance MA8000/MA12000 - support Re: Q3CY205 arrived... Re: Q3CY205 arrived...  Re: simh with logical networking  Re: simh with logical networking! Re: Simh. How to triple the speed   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:32:24 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: Adding users R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB6B2270@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----> > From: David J Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@comcast.net]=20 > Sent: August 28, 2005 9:41 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Adding users  >=20 > "Main, Kerry" wrote: > >=20  > > > -----Original Message-----: > > > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com]# > > > Sent: August 26, 2005 9:51 PM  > > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > > > Subject: Re: Adding users  > > >  > > > "Main, Kerry" wrote:A > > > > As much as some folks hate using gui's, OpenVMS users can  > > > also be added < > > > > via point-click Windows based utility. Allows you to > > > point-click-sortA > > > > various user fields. Storage and print queues can also be  > > > managed with# > > > > this Windows based utility.  > > >  > > > ? > > > The OP needs to do mass additions. GUIs are ill suited to  > > > automate such tasks. > > >  > >=20G > > Bill also mentioned he wanted to maintain this list and while a DCL E > > routine can be used to do the initial load, I suspect the ongoing A > > maintenance of student ID's is a lot of work i.e. changes,=20  > additions, > > deletions etc. > >=20A > > Hence, the 10-15 minutes required to setup a Windows based=20  > utility toH > > manage the OpenVMS resources *might* be worth it - especially if youB > > have junior Operations and/or support staff that is used to=20
 > Windows GUI  > > mgmt utilities.  >=20 > Well, yes and no.  >=20< > UAF maintenance tends to be only a very small part of userG > administration on a system running a a commercial application. As TNT E > lacks any (documented) "hooks" to allow for that, its usefulness is  > extremely limited. >=20 > --=20     B Mmm... Wrt to user authentication, since all TNT does is basicallyH manipulate the sysuaf, and since sysuaf does have "hooks" (system calls,E external auth, LDAP, ACME etc), what additional functionality are you  looking for?  H TNT itself is not something to replace what an application might require3 any more than the Windows User/AD interfaces are ..    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:55:48 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: Adding users - Message-ID: <874q99ui4r.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:  F > Does anyone have a DCL script for adding users in bulk? Something toE > update the UAF and take care of creating home directories and maybe   > add a good starting LOGIN.COM.  E See if you can find the old DTR SIG stuff, I think they had one there G somewhere that was pretty good. Or will get you started in doing one ;)    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 08:36:49 -0700 From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>M Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 CPU speed upgrade and/or backplane speed ranges C Message-ID: <1125329809.648615.186850@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Duncan,   7 Good news on the results after applying system patches.   E There is a newer firmware for the 4x00 systems V6.1-1 which addresses F some issues with systems with 3 or more cpu boards installed.  You may? want to download the kit for the firmware and apply the update.    Robert   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:33:39 +0200  From: S <soterroatyahoodotcom>' Subject: Re: best way to start with VMS & Message-ID: <4312ba48$1@news1.ethz.ch>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:B > Thoroughly reading the User Guide should give you perspective onD > VMS concepts.  You will undoubtedly conceptualize this in the form> > of a comparison to that with which you are familiar on Unix.  I There's also a place where one can really feel this comparison: HP TCPIP  A services with their "HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS UNIX Command   Equivalents Reference Card".   S    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 05:22:46 -0700# From: "H Vlems" <hvlems@freenet.de> ' Subject: Re: best way to start with VMS B Message-ID: <1125318166.845162.29040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   Peter,  D there's a reasonably good book on VMS available. I forgot the actualF title but afaik I have it in pdf format. If you're interested, find my? email address on //home.zonnet.nl/hvlems and send me your email  address.   Hans   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 07:26:34 -0700 From: mckinneyj@saic.com/ Subject: Re: DIAGNOSE INSTANCE CODE TRANSLATION C Message-ID: <1125325594.617204.113470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   D Interpretation of instance codes is described in the service manualsB and trouble-shooting guides for the various HSx controllers. OlderG manuals can be found at http://deathrow.vistech.net/~cvisors/DEC94MDS - F this instance code looks like one from an HSG? The HSG troubleshooting guide can be found at N ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/techdoc/acs/EK-G80TR-SA-B01.pdf .    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:19:36 +1000 6 From: "O'Brien Paddy" <Paddy.O'Brien@transgrid.com.au>+ Subject: RE: Katrina and disaster tolerance X Message-ID: <8BAD914A0B8CA84C9E94187103A1AB9E05BE90@EX-TG2-PR.corporate.transgrid.local>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5AC7B.23A5EA65 . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable          -----Original Message-----4 From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com] Sent: Mon 8/29/2005 3:44 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com + Subject: OT: Katrina and disaster tolerance  =20 J New Orleans is about to be battered by a pretty big storm called Katerina.  B Are there any well known VMS shops in the area ? Do they have goodE disaster tolerance plans ? It might make for interesting VMS material ) for the technical journal, marketing etc.   F Am I the only one who keeps on thinking about the 1980s group "KatrinaH and the waves ?" . TV are saying they have already measured waves of 20m; (60 feet) with expectation of massive flooding in the area.   F This is definitely an area where you not only need disaster tolerance,F but remote sites and remote backups, with remote being more than 100km& away. (aka: an area where VMS is best)  G And now, with price of crude above $70, that fuel for backup generators B will also cost a lot more ! (Anyone wanna bet that once reports ofH damage to oil rigs in the gulf come in, the price of crude will shoot up to $80 or even $100 ?)     ******  L Well JF, you can probably bet your last dollar that anything that VMS cover=D s will never be told to the world.  (Just pre-empting John Smith :-)   Regards, Paddy    G ***********************************************************************   C "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged @ and confidential information intended only for the use of the=20D addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of=20C this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise D the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination,=207 distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.   C If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid=20 C immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the=20 ? individual sender except where the sender expressly and with=20 C authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  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Do they have good<BR>I disaster tolerance plans ? It might make for interesting VMS material<BR> - for the technical journal, marketing etc.<BR>  <BR>L Am I the only one who keeps on thinking about the 1980s group &quot;Katrina= <BR>L and the waves ?&quot; . TV are saying they have already measured waves of 2= 0m<BR>? (60 feet) with expectation of massive flooding in the area.<BR>  <BR>J This is definitely an area where you not only need disaster tolerance,<BR>J but remote sites and remote backups, with remote being more than 100km<BR>* away. (aka: an area where VMS is best)<BR> <BR>K And now, with price of crude above $70, that fuel for backup generators<BR> F will also cost a lot more ! (Anyone wanna bet that once reports of<BR>L damage to oil rigs in the gulf come in, the price of crude will shoot up<BR> to $80 or even $100 ?)<BR> <BR> <BR>
 ******<BR> <BR>L Well JF, you can probably bet your last dollar that anything that VMS cover=L s will never be told to the world.&nbsp; (Just pre-empting John Smith :-)<B= R> <BR> Regards, Paddy<BR> </FONT>  </P>   <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR>  <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  <BR>G "This electronic message and any attachments may contain privileged<BR> B and confidential information intended only for the use of the <BR>F addressees named above.  If you are not the intended recipient of <BR>G this email, please delete the message and any attachment and advise<BR> F the sender.  You are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, <BR>; distribution, reproduction of this email is prohibited.<BR>  <BR>E If you have received the email in error, please notify TransGrid <BR> E immediately.  Any views expressed in this email are those of the <BR> A individual sender except where the sender expressly and with <BR> G authority states them to be the views of TransGrid.  TransGrid uses<BR> B virus-scanning software but excludes any liability for viruses<BR>  contained in any attachment.<BR> <BR>@ Please note the email address for TransGrid personnel is now<BR>( firstname.lastname@transgrid.com.au"<BR> <BR>K ***********************************************************************<BR>  </FONT>  </BODY>  </HTML> ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5AC7B.23A5EA65--    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 08:39:32 -0700 From: gary.lively@gmail.com ! Subject: MA8000/MA12000 - support C Message-ID: <1125329972.919268.225490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   = We have four(4)MA8000/MA12000 StorgeWorks Cabinets with HSG80 + controllers ---> and trying to get to EVA's   F Has HP had a official announcement on support and a drop-dead date for  these cabinets and controllers ?   thanks   gary   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 07:46:48 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: Q3CY205 arrived... 3 Message-ID: <snduC7gkP2Ao@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <430FC69F.FCA608F6@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > J > My *feeling* is that the folks who are running the programme have poorlyV > integrated and performaing systems/software to handle this and many get "forgotten".  H    Once upon a time DEC had a nice VMS based data base and system aroundE    it to take care of all this.  There were occaisional problems, but 5    they got straighten out and stay straightened out.   -    Shall we wonder out load what HP is using?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:08:43 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Q3CY205 arrived... Q Message-ID: <OF8F16EBD3.C115ED23-ON8525706C.004810AD-8525706C.004835D1@metso.com>   I koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote on 08/29/2005  08:46:48 AM:  A > In article <430FC69F.FCA608F6@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.  > spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:  > > E > > My *feeling* is that the folks who are running the programme have  poorlyB > > integrated and performaing systems/software to handle this and > many get "forgotten".  > J >    Once upon a time DEC had a nice VMS based data base and system aroundG >    it to take care of all this.  There were occaisional problems, but 7 >    they got straighten out and stay straightened out.  > / >    Shall we wonder out load what HP is using?  > H I am having problems with my support contracts addressing and I was told that if the B "Contract Adminstrator" doesn't change "all the fields" in the SAP
 database, the 9 problem will not be fixed.  I didn't probe any deeper....    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 17:52:03 +0200( From: Andreas Davour <ante@update.uu.se>) Subject: Re: simh with logical networking 4 Message-ID: <cs98xykwxjw.fsf@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>  * Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> writes:   > Alan Greig wrote: G > > One big problem with simh is that it needs a dedicated network card B > > and an external bridge to communicate back with the host PC (a, > > limitation of the Windows pcap drivers). > F > On close inspection of the simh ethernet readme it does mention thisG > TAP connection method. However it wasn't clear to me that this worked C > under Windows. And nobody pointed it out when I posted that I was C > using two network cards and a bridge as per the docs. It was only D > after reading the colinux docs which explained in much more detailB > exactly what TAP was and why it was almost certainly the one youD > wanted to use if you wanted full connectivity between hosts that I# > actually understood what TAP was.  > B > Of course if you already know what TAP is then it would all make > perfect sense.  H Hey! I've read that docs and I still don't really know what TAP is!? :)    /andreas   --  A A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. ' Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?  A: Top-posting. ; Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:27:20 -0500 % From: Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> ) Subject: Re: simh with logical networking 5 Message-ID: <slrndh6dr8.4gu.usenet@zappy.catbert.org>   ^ In article <cs98xykwxjw.fsf@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>, Andreas Davour <ante@update.uu.se> wrote:, > Alan Greig <greigaln@netscape.net> writes: >  >> Alan Greig wrote:H >> > One big problem with simh is that it needs a dedicated network cardC >> > and an external bridge to communicate back with the host PC (a - >> > limitation of the Windows pcap drivers).  >>  G >> On close inspection of the simh ethernet readme it does mention this H >> TAP connection method. However it wasn't clear to me that this workedD >> under Windows. And nobody pointed it out when I posted that I wasD >> using two network cards and a bridge as per the docs. It was onlyE >> after reading the colinux docs which explained in much more detail C >> exactly what TAP was and why it was almost certainly the one you E >> wanted to use if you wanted full connectivity between hosts that I $ >> actually understood what TAP was. >>  C >> Of course if you already know what TAP is then it would all make  >> perfect sense.  > J > Hey! I've read that docs and I still don't really know what TAP is!? :)   ! TAP is a virtual ethernet device.   H In a SIMH context, it makes it appear there is a second Ethernet adapterH installed in the system, so that you can connect to the virtual ethernetF network interface from within the host system instead of having to put- in a second actual physical Ethernet adapter.    -Dan   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Aug 2005 07:39:29 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) * Subject: Re: Simh. How to triple the speed3 Message-ID: <L8hxQDs7hCYZ@eisner.encompasserve.org>    > K > One of my perverse hobbies was reading the source code for the idle loop  O > (called idle_thread()) in DU, from the very first drops from OSF/RI (back in  O > the MIPS PMAX days) through DU 5.  Boy, did that code grow!  At first it was  M > the simple spin loop that only broke when the cpu got an interrupt (either  G > due to I/O completion, timer expiry, or an inter-processor interrupt  P > triggered by another cpu).  Then, various hackers added more and more garbage K > to it.  I imagine detecting what truly is the idle loop part of the idle   > thread is very hard to do!  C    There was a published paper extending the known values if digits B    in pi which was accomplished by pathcing the idle loop on a VAX=    11/780.  Steps had to be taken to snapshot the data so the %    calculation could survive reboots.   E    I think an early Alpha could reproduce the result in far less than C    the mean time between boots.  A pi calculator was included as an '    example with the Macro-64 assembler.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.482 ************************