1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 07 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 680       Contents: DCL (directory) wish list item" Re: DVD writer for a 600au and VMS" Re: DVD writer for a 600au and VMS For Sale: 32CPU GS320  Re: Hobbyist VAX consoles D Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preservingD Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preservingD Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preservingJ Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving linksP Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving links links* Interfacing to an AS400 from Alpha Cluster. Re: Interfacing to an AS400 from Alpha Cluster& Re: Java App crashes under user SYSTEM' Loads of DS10 systems looking for homes @ Re: Memory boards for the KA650 (uVAX-III) and KA655 (uVAX-III+) Re: Moving VAX 4000s in a car ? & Re: Pathworks network printing problem% Someone should send this story to HP! ) Re: Someone should send this story to HP! 9 RE: Stupid Question: How to find speed of an Alpha's CPUs 9 Re: Stupid Question: How to find speed of an Alpha's CPUs % Re: TCPIP Services on VMS (and Tru64) / Re: the counterpart of lib$spawn on Linux/UNIX?  Re: TLZ9L documentation?2 Re: Updated VMS Information - sorry about the size Re: V8.3 teaser   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:38:51 -0700 + From: Mark Berryman <mark@theberrymans.com> ' Subject: DCL (directory) wish list item % Message-ID: <4395865b$1@mvb.saic.com>   I I'd like see a switch added to the Directory utility that suppresses the  H circumflex character in filenames with escaped characters (and possibly  translates it as well).   H For example, when the switch is active, display the following file name ) in the second form rather than the first:   % This^.file^.has^.multiple^.dots.txt;1 ! This.file.has.multiple.dots.txt;1   G If a translation mode were supported then any filename escape sequence  = that translated to a printable character would be translated  / (unprintable characters would be left escaped).    E.g.:    This^_file^_has^_spaces.txt  This file has spaces.txt  C Obviously, such a switch would impact only how Directory displayed  I filenames.  It would have no impact on anything else in the file system.  I   This functionality is being asked for by users who prefer to see their  1 Unix-like filenames without the escape character.   F Another thought that was given was that the switch would suppress the I escape character only in those situations where the filename could still  & be referenced in the manner displayed.  D For example, the command $COPY THIS.FILE.WITH.MULTIPLE.DOTS.TXT NL: H works but $COPY THIS FILE WITH MULTIPLE SPACES.TXT NL: does not.  Thus, H the switch would cause Directory to suppress the ^ character when it is I used to indicate multiple dots in the filename but would not suppress it  ' when indicating spaces in the filename.   G Personally, I like this method with both possibilities being an option. > For example, Dir/Translate would suppress the ^ character (by F translating the escape sequence) as long as the result could still be ? used by DCL (as is the case with a filename whose only escaped  I characters are multiple dots) and Dir/Suppress=all would translate every  ? escape sequence possible (skipping only those that resulted in   unprintable characters).  	 Thoughts?   
 Mark Berryman    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:15:37 GMT A From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> + Subject: Re: DVD writer for a 600au and VMS : Message-ID: <trllf.3802$iz3.85@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>  H I'm using the TDK 880i connected via IDE (device DQB0:). Works fine. Can even boot VMS from it.  I Biggest nuisance (probably common to all) is that to do a firmware update I (which happens more often than you'd like) you need to physically put the 7 thing into a PC, then move it back into a real machine.    --     Hope this helps, Colin. ) colin DOT butcher AT xdelta DOT co DOT uk E It's not mine, but I like this definition: Legacy = stuff that works.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:06:36 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) + Subject: Re: DVD writer for a 600au and VMS / Message-ID: <w3nlf.189$3r6.19@news.cpqcorp.net>   _ In article <1133358552.795272.191950@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, bob@instantwhip.com writes: C :can you use dvdwrite to do an image backup to cd and boot from it?   G   I expect that DVDwrite and DVDRECORD/DVDRTOOLS can provide this, and  E   the COPY/RECORDABLE_MEDIA tool that is expected to ship as part of  D   the OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS I64 V8.3 release can most certainly %   provide this recording capability.    E   The most basic usages of the new DCL COPY/RECORDABLE_MEDIA command      will likely appear as follows:  7   $ COPY/RECORDABLE_MEDIA [from-ddcu:] [recorder-ddcu:]   6   $ COPY/RECORDABLE_MEDIA [from-file] [recorder-ddcu:]  G   For generic details on how to build bootable optical media for any of E   the three OpenVMS architectures -- and regardless of the particular F   recording tool that you choose to use, or whether you are looking toG   boot CD or DVD -- see the OpenVMS Ask The Wizard (ATW) topic (9820).  ?   (ATW is available at <http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/wizard/>.)    	--   D   The SYS$DQDRIVER issue around formatting media and the FORMAT_UNITC   command handling that was discussed in ATW topic (9820) has been  C   addressed in the current versions and ECOs of that device driver. F   Current driver versions no longer have the problem referenced there.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------   Date: 07 Dec 2005 04:50:14 GMT8 From: gmpc@sanger.ac-dot-uk.no-spam.invalid (Guy Coates) Subject: For Sale: 32CPU GS320F Message-ID: <43966a06$0$22496$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>   Hi,     We have a 32 CPU GS320 for sale.   Specs: 32x 1.0 Ghz EV68 CPUs  192GB of memory. 14x 36G internal scsi disks  4x fibre-channel cards.   4 The machine  has a full maintainance record from HP.  : We are open to any reasonable offers, but you will have to' arrange your own  shipping from the UK.    Cheers,    Guy    --  ( Dr Guy Coates,  Informatics System GroupE The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1HH, UK  Tel: +44 (0)1223 834244 ex 6925  Fax: +44 (0)1223 494919    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:09:11 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> " Subject: Re: Hobbyist VAX consoles, Message-ID: <43966E5A.8400867D@teksavvy.com>   Javier Henderson wrote: I > The 2509 is another option, with 8 asynch ports instead of 16. In fact, ? > there's one on eBay right now for $30, ending in about a day.   / Well, today, those beasts go for $300 to $590.     Reminds me a lot of Digital.  > Some of the routing equipment refuses to consider the low costA competitors and consitue to charge a premium for their products.    G Consumer branded routers are very cheap while business branded ones are G orders of magnitudes more expensive. At least Cisco recognized this and H purchased Linksys, which would be the moral equivalent of Digital buying Compaq back in late 1980s.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 11:41:12 -0800  From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>M Subject: Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving B Message-ID: <1133898072.327178.43430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  @ The workaround that seems most direct for this problem is to use  # $ DFU DIRECTORY/ALIAS <device_name>   E to generate a list of aliased files on the input volume set.  Then do  the following:  * $ backup <input_volume_set>:[000000]*.dir;) <single_drive>:[000000]/by_owner=ORIGINAL ' $ backup <input_volume_set>:[*...]*.*;* ' <single_drive>:[*...]/by_owner=ORIGINAL   G Then for each aliased file delete all but one of the copies and perform E the appropriate SET FILE/ENTER commands to re-create the structure of  the input volume.   G I suppose that it would actually be fairly doable to make a DCL or PERL  script to do this last part.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 12:38:12 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>M Subject: Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving C Message-ID: <1133901492.465932.226810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   
 R Boyd wrote: B > The workaround that seems most direct for this problem is to use > % > $ DFU DIRECTORY/ALIAS <device_name>  > G > to generate a list of aliased files on the input volume set.  Then do  > the following: > , > $ backup <input_volume_set>:[000000]*.dir;+ > <single_drive>:[000000]/by_owner=ORIGINAL   G Try adding /NOALIAS to the above command as someone else in this thread F suggested. That should eliminate the multiple copies. (I haven't triedD it.) You'll still have to manually reconstruct the aliases with your DFU alias list.   ) > $ backup <input_volume_set>:[*...]*.*;* ) > <single_drive>:[*...]/by_owner=ORIGINAL  > I > Then for each aliased file delete all but one of the copies and perform G > the appropriate SET FILE/ENTER commands to re-create the structure of  > the input volume.  > I > I suppose that it would actually be fairly doable to make a DCL or PERL  > script to do this last part.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 14:48:42 -0600  From: briggs@encompasserve.orgM Subject: Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving 3 Message-ID: <WJRgyf8VX5U8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <11pbf56olt9mjc4@corp.supernews.com>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > AEF wrote: >> Robert Deininger wrote: >>  H >>>In article <1133827537.218810.48020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "R >>>Boyd" <bob@hax.com> wrote:  >>>  >>> J >>>>After reading the documentation and looking at the articles in Ask The= >>>>Wizard I haven't found what I thought would surely exist.  >>>>H >>>>If I want to convert a bound volume set and preserve links for filesK >>>>with multiple directory entries, I want BACKUP /IMAGE to do the job for  >>>>me.  >>>>F >>>>Is there another tool or some unpublished qualifier that will tellF >>>>BACKUP to merge all of the files from a volume set into one output> >>>>device?  I already know about BACKUP INPUT_SET:[*...]*.*;* >>>>OUTPUT_DEVICE:[*...]G >>>>The problem with that approach is that any existing multiply linked K >>>>files will wind up with duplicate copies.  I'd like to have a sure-fire  >>>>way of avoiding this.  >>>>J >>>>If BACKUP won't do this, isn't it a good idea to add the capability toK >>>>BACKUP, since the VMS Wizard is discouraging people from creating bound I >>>>volume sets now that significantly larger disks are available? I have I >>>>several volume sets I want to convert and I don't want to worry about % >>>>messing up multiply linked files.  >>> J >>>I haven't used Bound Volume Sets in eons, so I'm likely forgetting someK >>>details.  Doesn't the /NOALIAS qualifier do what you want with regard to L >>>multiply linked files?  /NOALIAS will give you all the links but only the >>>original copy of the file.  >>   >>  J >> While this would avoid multiple copies of such files, he would lose theE >> alias directory entries. If he's worried about extra copies and is H >> willing to manually re-create the aliases, then yes, that would work.I >> But he said he wanted to preserve the links. You can only do that with  >> BACKUP/IMAGE. >>   > ? > One poster raised the issue of the file ID.  I've never used  J > multi-volume sets so do not know.  Can there be files in a multi-volume K > set with the same file ID?  If so, that could be an issue.  If not, then  * > a BACKUP/IMAGE should do what's desired.  > No.  There cannot be files in a multi-volume set with the same? file ID.  However there can be files in a multi-volume set with 1 a file ID that is invalid in a single volume set.   2 The relative volume number is part of the file ID.  0 So you need to change file IDs.  That's a given.  = And since /IMAGE backups preserve file IDs, that's a problem.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 11:38:12 -0800 $ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>S Subject: Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving links B Message-ID: <1133897892.512040.32680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  
 AEF wrote: > Dave Froble wrote: > > AEF wrote: > > > Robert Deininger wrote:  > > > K > > >>In article <1133827537.218810.48020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "R   > > >>Boyd" <bob@hax.com> wrote: [...]  > E > One thing I noticed that I didn't expect was that you lose a little D > "transparency" for file headers on the 2nd and higher volumes of aE > volume set. I can use DUMP INDEXF.SYS with a carefully chosen block I > number to see that block unformatted but this is not the case for files A > on rel. vol. no. 2 such as FILE3.;1. I can still do DUMP/HEADER D > FILE3./NOFORMATTED, of course. Not a big deal -- just a curiosity. > Comments anyone?  ? Uh, cancel this part. You can access files of a volume set on a B disk-specific basis and see the INDEXF.SYS files on 2nd and higherG volumes. Never mind. I guess I was thinking in "volume shadowing" mode.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:57:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: How to convert bound volume set to single drive while preserving links links , Message-ID: <4396174F.F8142AD0@teksavvy.com>  G Consider that in a /IMAGE operation, the contents of the .DIR files are D considered "data".  So even if it could restore your .DIR files ontoG your new single-disk volume, the contents of the .DIR files would still H have  pointers to file-IDs of the multi-disk volume and all the files in3 the directory would point to non existant fil-IDs.      A So in this case, it isn't just a question of recreating the files H properly, but also updating the contents of  directory files to point to the new file IDs.       E Perhaps one way to do this is to create a list that contains the full B file spec of the alias, and the full file spec of the actual file.   eg:   8 [SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR;1 points to [000000]VMS$COMMON.DIR;1  E Then, you can backup /IMAGE/NOALIAS and restore /NOIMAGE.  It changes C all your fileIDs, but you can then use the list to recreate all the G alias entries  (which your restore operation would have fully omitted).       E So the question now becomes: what is the best way to create a list of 5 alias file entries and the actual file they point to.   A What comes to mind is writing a utility that scans the whole disk C (equivalent of F$SEARCH("DISK:[000000...]*.*;*"), and for each file D found, it takes the file ID, looks it up in INDEXF.SYS to see if the file name matches.  F for instance, when you get to [SYS0]SYSCOMMON.DIR, when you lookup itsF file ID in indexf.sys, you'll find VMS$COMMON.DIR as file name, so youG know SYSCOMMON.DIR is an alias. The remaining tricks is to get the full  file spec of VMS$COMMON.DIR.  ) You can find the layout of INDEXF.SYS at:   L http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files-11#Physical_layout:_the_On-Disk_Structure   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:06:35 GMT $ From: "Labhras" <labhras@nowhere.pl>3 Subject: Interfacing to an AS400 from Alpha Cluster < Message-ID: <v3nlf.3504$nA2.2835@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>  J Anyone have some pointers on how to grab data from an AS400 to an OpenVMS  cluster system?   0 Is there a version of ODBC that will run on VMS?   John     ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:49:28 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) 7 Subject: Re: Interfacing to an AS400 from Alpha Cluster 0 Message-ID: <IHnlf.195$gH6.138@news.cpqcorp.net>  c In article <v3nlf.3504$nA2.2835@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, "Labhras" <labhras@nowhere.pl> writes: K :Anyone have some pointers on how to grab data from an AS400 to an OpenVMS   :cluster system?   C   An IBM AS/400, rather than an AlphaServer 400 or some other box,     I will assume.    )   The connection is via IP, most usually.   D   I tend to prefer to use XML to transfer the data itself, but thereB   are any number of ways to either access the data remotely, or toB   export and import it, or to transfer it as a text format, or via   XML, or via http, or via...   1 :Is there a version of ODBC that will run on VMS?   B   ODBC and JDBC clients and servers are available for OpenVMS fromD   various sources.  Info on these are available via the OpenVMS FAQ,A   and updates and corrections to the list over there are welcome.     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------   Date: 06 Dec 2005 20:00:14 GMT8 From: Bernhard Dorninger <bernhard.dorningerATscchDOTat>/ Subject: Re: Java App crashes under user SYSTEM 3 Message-ID: <Xns9724D5AA4D83Fbdscch@193.171.255.23>   * Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in) news:11opu533roefj5b@corp.supernews.com:     > G > You might want to tell the customer that you have a long list of VMS  E > experts, some with over 25 years of experience on VMS, who will all F > say, "never run any applications using the SYSTEM user account, or a3 > 'SYSTEM' UIC".  You may start with the sig below.  >   = Finally, after the next problem surfaced (a file of the Java  F installation cannot be opened by the JVM under SYSTEM causing Java to A crash - although SYSTEM owns this file and has RWED rights), our  F customer has agreed to run the app under the "ordinary" user account, C where a positive test already has been passed once (apart from the  I stability problem with the native code in the subproc, but thats another  	 story...) H Test operation is restarted on Monday, then we'll see if I have to seek ' for your highly appreciated help again. . Thanks to all, who helped me with their hints.   Bernhard  + -------------------------------------------  Bernhard Dorninger Project Manager   ) Software Competence Center Hagenberg GmbH & Softwarepark Hagenberg, Hauptstrae 99 A-4232 Hagenberg, Austria   2 mailto:bernhard.dorninger-dont_send_meSPAM@scch.at     --     ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:49:46 -0500* From: "d b turner" <dbturner@islandco.com>0 Subject: Loads of DS10 systems looking for homes6 Message-ID: <8qplf.442$wP3.301@bignews6.bellsouth.net>  1 40+ DS10 systems in finished goods refurbished to 
 NEW condition   3 All available with BRAND NEW HP Authorized licenses * VMS and EIP licenses and/or Tru64 Licenses2 We can do fabulous deals on Unlimited VMS licenses until DECEMBER 24th 2005  - Go to www.islandco.com for more information !   ! We ship worldwide (except Africa)   A DS10 systems come with a 12 months warranty from Island Computers    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:13:06 -0600 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> I Subject: Re: Memory boards for the KA650 (uVAX-III) and KA655 (uVAX-III+) 2 Message-ID: <43965342.5040506@applied-synergy.com>   Bob Armstrong wrote: >>Hoff Hoffman wrote:   B >>Do ensure you have a correct and current-revision private memoryC >> interconnect cable, and do NOT use the 17-02174-* nor 17-00716-* @ >> series memory cables.  You will typically want the 17-01534-*C >> series memory cables, IIRC, for the MS650-series configurations.  >  > ? >   I'll have to check my cables - I had no idea.  I upgraded a H > MicroVAX-II by swapping the CPU and memory cards for a uV-III+ and oneG > M7622 card, and now I'd like to add another memory.  I actually don't 8 > know which cable I've got however it seems to work OK. > A >   There can't be too much difference in the cables - the header + > connectors on the cards are all the same.   A Actually, the PMI cable can make a big difference, even in MVIIs.   H We had a MVII that originally came with 9MB.  When we upgraded to 16MB, @ we got random memory parity error crashes.  These were fixed by I replacing the original PMI cable (bare ribbon cable) with a shielded one.    --  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  B Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com    Fax: 817-237-3074   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:48:37 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>( Subject: Re: Moving VAX 4000s in a car ?, Message-ID: <3vm4o5F16dfodU1@individual.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:^ > In article <4394BB24.E73B3049@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >  >>Bob Koehler wrote: >>H >>>   I thought a 2CV was based on the translation of "two horsepower"*.% >>>   Surely that can move one horse?  >>> < >>>* but I always thought it really refered to two cylinders >> >>CV = Cheveaux Vapeur >> > E >    Yeah, but I always assumed it really made more than 2.  Even the ( >    original VW Standard Sedan made 40. >   D Two different rating systems. The VW's 40 will be Brake Horse Power $ (bhp). IIRC the 2CV produced 28 bhp.  H That figures, as the official documentation (i.e taxable figure) for my  193 PS car says 14.11 PS.   E (PS = German for PferdeStaerke - horsepower, but ISTR it's something   like 99.7% of BHP)  H James Watt defined horsepower as 33,000 foot pounds per minute See link  below).   H A relevant discussion of automotive horsepower vs torgue can be found at! http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 11:29:18 -0800 - From: "mb301@hotmail.com" <mb301@hotmail.com> / Subject: Re: Pathworks network printing problem C Message-ID: <1133897358.755334.228190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    We had the problem. G Stop the queue and printer something from the pc, does it get to queue? 3 What mode is the HP Colour Jet in? Postscript, PCL?    Can you do:-$ $ show que/all/full <<printer_name>> $ dir sys$library:<<library>> ' $ library /list sys$library:<<library>>   @ We found some printers didn't like the PJL codes we were sendingD they look something like <esc>%-12345X while PCL code look something like this <esc>E<esc>&l0O   9 You can also try defining something like from DCL and try C stopping/restarting the queue and see what data is going off to the  printer check log file.   ) $ define/sys/exec ucx$telnetsym_raw_tcp 1 , $ define/sys/exec tcpip$telnetsym_raw_tcp 1    Hope this helps.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 13:22:50 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com . Subject: Someone should send this story to HP!B Message-ID: <1133904170.699252.83350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  $ so much for the veritas solution ...  > http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/news/article.php/3564976   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 22:26:00 GMT # From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) 2 Subject: Re: Someone should send this story to HP!0 Message-ID: <Ydolf.201$NI6.196@news.cpqcorp.net>  ^ In article <1133904170.699252.83350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, bob@instantwhip.com writes:  ? :http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/news/article.php/3564976   F   Drew Robb, the author of that article, has written on OpenVMS topicsE   before, and certainly seems to have at least a passing familiarity  F   with the OpenVMS product line.  HP has previously referenced one of     his Computerworld articles at:  5     http://h71000.www7.hp.com/news/computerworld.html     C   The article is somewhat misleading in that all of the lobes of an D   OpenVMS DT cluster configuration were and are running "hot", and aB   failure within one lobe of the cluster doesn't so much involve aD   switch-over as the continued operations of the cluster on a subsetD   of the cluster member nodes.  A typical DT configuration uses mostB   of or all of its nodes all the time, and degrades as individual ?   nodes or as a lobe is removed from the cluster configuration.    	--   A   Restoring a failed Microsoft Windows configuration -- operating B   system and applications and data -- to full operation has never A   been particularly easy, short of a physical disk operation and  @   fully and carefully replicated hardware configurations, in my    own experience.     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faq N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------G        Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[\0100]hp.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:06:59 -0500' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> B Subject: RE: Stupid Question: How to find speed of an Alpha's CPUsR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB77330D@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message----- > From: Reagan, John=20   > Sent: December 6, 2005 1:58 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com D > Subject: Re: Stupid Question: How to find speed of an Alpha's CPUs >=20 > Main, Kerry wrote: > >=20 > >=20
 > > Chuck, > >=20= > > I believe Dan suggested a ">>> show config" not show cpu.  > >=20 > >=20 >=209 > Also, an SDA CLUE CONFIG should show the speed as well.  >=20 >=20   From the console?    [has not installed VMS yet ..]   :-) :-)   D Course once VMS is installed, you can also do a "$show cpu/all/full"   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 18:01:15 -0800 ' From: "Schnootling" <chuckm@dis.wa.gov> B Subject: Re: Stupid Question: How to find speed of an Alpha's CPUsC Message-ID: <1133920875.279910.316960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Hello Everyone,   B I was in error earlier: I had done a "show config" and not a "show cpu".   2 Anyway, I got into ARC-mode and saw the following: Alpha 21164 400MHz  F My thanks to everyone who responded. I appreciate your taking the time to help.   Chuck    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:57:51 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) . Subject: Re: TCPIP Services on VMS (and Tru64). Message-ID: <dn4mvf$6c8$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "denny" <denny_rich@ameritech.net> writes in article <1133581795.633626.252430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> dated 2 Dec 2005 19:49:55 -0800: ( >I have received the following question. > A >   "...Lastly, do you or others have a good handle on TCP/IP and @ >   networking setup parameters on Tru64 Unix on an AlphaServer.= >   I need to make a change to the DNS setting on my Unix box : >   to point to a new Windows PC DNS & DHCP server (rather= >   than using the Alpha as the DNS/DHCP server).  So, if you @ >   or others in your circle know Unix stuff, I would appreciateF >   a hearing from you, to figure out what to change.  I think I found> >   the setting but want to confirm before making the change." > G >My response was to run the "tcpip show name" command, and then package F >that output plus the help for "set name" and send it to him.  All, of >course, from my VMS system. > A >My problem is all I know is the VMS commands for TCPIP Services.  > E >Does anybody know if this information is even close to what he needs  >for Tru64?  > C >I leaped to the conclusion that Trul64 would have similar commands F >since I believe the VMS version of UCX/TCPIP Services was ported fromE >the UNIX model. (of course actual symtax may vary because one is VMS  >and the other is UNIX.)  G The "kernel" was ported.  The management command interface existed long I before the port and is not much changed since the product was called UCX.   < Unfortunately this means your knowledge is of no use to him.  B >Any remote chance someone knows the actual commands to do what he >wants?   @ You might check comp.sys.dec or comp.*.unix.  Or "man -k dns"...  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:07:28 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) 8 Subject: Re: the counterpart of lib$spawn on Linux/UNIX?. Message-ID: <dn4nhg$6c8$2@newslocal.mitre.org>   koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes in article <LJiGI5oShbAk@eisner.encompasserve.org> dated 5 Dec 2005 07:43:55 -0600:l >In article <dmqcih$2bq$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, JONESD@ecr6.ohio-state.edu (David Jones) writes: >>  X >> In the case of "set term/wrap", that command changes the permanent characteristics ofP >> the terminal, which is very presumptuous of an application.  Using QIOW callsJ >> with IO$_SETMODE make a temporary change that will reset on image exit. >>   > F >   Not quite so permanent.  It will survive program completion, whichC >   is poor style.  it will not survive logout since it doesn't use ( >   the privileged qualifier /permanent. > C >   On Linux, as on most UNIX, the terminal settings default to the = >   equivalent of /nowrap, so the call probably isn't needed.   G A quick test using a "cat" command on an xterm from "Red Hat Enterprise F Linux AS release 3 (Taroon Update 5)" shows behavior similar to /wrap.  L But my guess is it's only a spew-limiting measure and that the user probably) doesn't pay attention to the spew anyway.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Dec 2005 11:26:10 -0800 , From: "rcyoung" <rcyoung@aliconsultants.com>! Subject: Re: TLZ9L documentation? C Message-ID: <1133897170.876419.202110@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   " Thanks. I'd been looking for this.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:48:23 +08003 From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> ; Subject: Re: Updated VMS Information - sorry about the size 1 Message-ID: <dmqmhv$ft2$1@news-02.connect.com.au>    Hi Sue,   ! All good stuff. (If a little dry)   J Any news from the Technical Update Days in (Sydney, Melbourne, Singapore)?L Any chance of a "XYZ climbed the Sydney harbour bridge" or "ABC got eaten by	 a koala"?    Cheers Richard  4 "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> wrote in message= news:1133561317.614030.130850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  -----Original Message----- From: Skonetski, Susan' Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:07 PM  To: Skonetski, SusanF Subject: Updated VMS Information please keep for future reference - ok for external use     Dear Distribution Lists,  > It has been a number of weeks since I have done an Updated VMSG Information so this is a long one, sorry about that.  If you are new to D my distribution list I try to send this out on a regular basis but IG have been out of the office for a month or so.  This is not an official E HP newsletter, it is just something I do.  As a reminder, if you were A doing an article for the January VMS Technical Journal it was due  November 15.  D All the urls work, if you have a problem the url may have wrapped to the next line.  : Have a wonderful weekend and see you next week my friends.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:00:43 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: V8.3 teaser, Message-ID: <43960A0A.1300ECCB@teksavvy.com>   Dave Froble wrote:F > Yeah!  Now you're talking about my world.  The greatest benefit fromD > this idea is when you need to do something unique, and everyone isD > asking you "how long" every 30 seconds, and you don't have a clue.  ? Will BACKUP be able to provide you an estimate when it is still E searching for the start of the saveset on tape, or when it has opened F the save set and reading it until it hits one of the files you wish toC restore ? (and must then begin searching again for the next file to 
 restore) ?  D For me, whenever a command nears 80 columns, I prefer to put it in a@ command procedure, especially when under stress. This way, I canF properly type in the command and continuation onto another line, writeC the file, and from the decterm invoke it or submit it. If there are H problems, I still have the file in the editor to make the correction and write it again.   B The last thing you want under pressure is to issue a hastily typedC command that ends up overwriting good files in the wrong directory.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.680 ************************