1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 26 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 719       Contents: (T)MSCP strangeness  Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness  STARTUP.LOG? Re: STARTUP.LOG? Re: STARTUP.LOG? Re: TCPIP5.4  patch 5 problem   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:29:47 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: (T)MSCP strangeness$ Message-ID: <dook7a$jle$2@online.de>  H I have an ALPHA which writes "enabled automatic {disk|tape} serving" to D the console BEFORE it joins the cluster.  I have a VAX which writes D "loading the (T)MSCP server" to the console BEFORE it joins/forms a F cluster and "enabled automatic {disk|tape} serving" TWICE (i.e. first I disk, then tape, then disk, then tape---4 messages altogether + 2 before  + the cluster is formed giving 6 altogether).   E As far as I know, this is independent of any sort of configuration I  H might have done.  Does everyone see this behaviour?  Why the difference?   7.3-2 ALPHA and 7.3 VAX.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:45:34 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>$ Subject: Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness, Message-ID: <419sbpF1dok6lU1@individual.net>   Peter Weaver wrote: N > "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>1 > wrote in message news:dok3pp$m9v$1@online.de...  > 	 >>If I do  >> >>   $ DUMP *.HTML >>$ >>then I get what I expect.  If I do >> >>   $ DUMP *.HTML/OUTPUT=X.X  >>< >>then X.X contains only the dump of the last file.  If I do >>! >>   $ DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT X.X  >>   $ DUMP *.HTML >>> >>then I get the same strange result.  This works as expected: >> >>   $ PIPE *.HTML > X.X >> >>What am I missing? >> >  > N > Which version of VMS? In older versions of VMS you would have found the lastI > file dumped in X.X;0, the second last would have been in X.X;-1 and the M > first would have been in X.X;-0. But I just tried it on VMS 8.2 and all the M > files were dumped in X.X;0. I'm not sure when it changed but a .COM I wrote # > 17-DEC-1985 doesn't work on V8.2.  >    Just tried this:   VAX/VMS V7.2   $ dump x.cob;* /output=x.dmp   gives:   x.dmp;1 containing x.cob;4 x.dmp;2 containing x.cob;3   i.e. as you described above.   However, on Alpha VMS V7.3-1   x.dmp;1 contains x.cob;4          then     x.cob;3    Now back on VAX V7.2 again   $ dump x.cob;* /output=x.dmp;*   gives:   x.dmp;4 containing x.cob;4 x.dmp;3 containing x.cob;3  . (if either of the output files exists, you get  / -RMS-E-FEX, file already exists, not superseded    which is as expected.   , *But* with the same command on Alpha V7.3-1:  C %DUMP-E-OPENOUT, error opening DEV:[DIR]TEST_WAIT_1.DMP;3 as output 8 -RMS-F-IFI, invalid internal file identifier (IFI) value  1 x.dmp;4 _is_ created, and contains x.cob;4 (only)    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:32:27 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: STARTUP.LOG? $ Message-ID: <dookcb$jle$3@online.de>  G I have an ALPHA which hangs for a couple of minutes AFTER it joins the  I cluster.  This is a 21164A CPU (actually, two of them) so the machine is  B quite fast.  By the time it gets to SYLOGICALS.COM, a 4000/60 has  already completed booting.  H Is there a way to get the startup sequence before SYLOGICALS.COM logged H somewhere, preferably with SET PREFIX turned on, so I can see where and H perhaps why it is hanging?  During the hanging, no messages are written 3 to the console, so I have no idea what it is doing.   ' Other ALPHAs don't show this behaviour.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:01:01 -0000 @ From: "Alex Daniels" <alexNOSPAMHERETHANKSdaniels@themail.co.uk> Subject: Re: STARTUP.LOG? 6 Message-ID: <43aff79f$0$29568$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>  M "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>  / wrote in message news:dookcb$jle$3@online.de...  >I have an ALPHA <SNIP>I > Is there a way to get the startup sequence before SYLOGICALS.COM logged I > somewhere, preferably with SET PREFIX turned on, so I can see where and I > perhaps why it is hanging?  During the hanging, no messages are written 5 > to the console, so I have no idea what it is doing.  >   K Use 20000 for the second of your boot flags, that will display a much more  H verbose set of messages for the part of the boot you specify. Note this  value is for Alpha/I64 only.  ) > Other ALPHAs don't show this behaviour.   8 Even other Alpha's using the same system disk, and root?   Ciao   Alex     ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:59:22 -0500  From: "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com> Subject: Re: STARTUP.LOG? , Message-ID: <43aff73a$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  M The only thing I can thik of it to edit STARTUP.COM to put in the SET PREFIX   and set STARTUP_P2 to VDC.  M "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>  / wrote in message news:dookcb$jle$3@online.de... G >I have an ALPHA which hangs for a couple of minutes AFTER it joins the J > cluster.  This is a 21164A CPU (actually, two of them) so the machine isC > quite fast.  By the time it gets to SYLOGICALS.COM, a 4000/60 has  > already completed booting. > I > Is there a way to get the startup sequence before SYLOGICALS.COM logged I > somewhere, preferably with SET PREFIX turned on, so I can see where and I > perhaps why it is hanging?  During the hanging, no messages are written 5 > to the console, so I have no idea what it is doing.  > ) > Other ALPHAs don't show this behaviour.  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:44:01 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> & Subject: Re: TCPIP5.4  patch 5 problem( Message-ID: <ops2egrny0zgicya@hyrrokkin>  : On 25 Dec 2005 17:06:55 +0100, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER   <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote:   J > In article <ops2cd9upgzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  	 > writes: = >> On 25 Dec 2005 10:10:08 +0100, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER     >> <eplan@langstoeger.at> wrote:H >>> Yup. The opsys. You need to upgrade VMS (and perhaps DECC) for ECO5.K >>> (TCPIP V5.5 requires V8.2[-1] and) TCPIP V5.4 requires V7.3-1 or V7.3-2 7 >> How about just installing later version of DECC$SHR?  > # > Don't know. How about trying it ?  > J >> Thanks Peter,  I thought I had saved the recovery data but apparently   >> notH >> so will have to reinstall.  I had to replace ssh%2_config.  Are those >> compatible with ECO 4?  >  > Don't think so. But try it.  >   L Well, I simply reinstalled 5.4 on the 7.3 system without any patches, as I   noticed 9 the HGFTP, whilst working wasn't writing to the log file.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.719 ************************