1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 27 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 721       Contents:9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot ' Re: Addendum: TCPIP5.4  patch 5 problem / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today  Re: SSH vs Telnet  Re: SSH vs Telnet  Re: STARTUP.LOG?! Re: Submitting an exe file to run  Submitting an exe file to run  Test Re: Zip question  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 03:00:07 -0500 , From: "Richard Tomkins" <tomkinsr@istop.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot: Message-ID: <43b0f312$0$20948$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com>   Have you run the ECU?     : "Keith A. Lewis" <klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG> wrote in message( news:dopl27$fuo$1@newslocal.mitre.org...5 > "Schnootling" <chuckm@dis.wa.gov> writes in article I <1135555879.685682.270870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> dated 25 Dec 2005  16:11:19 -0800:  > >Hello Folks,  > > H > >As the subject says, I'm getting a double exception from CPU 0 when IC > >boot from DRA0. From what I can tell, the install of VMS and the I > >LICENSE REGISTER of VMS all went well. (The reason I'm mentioning this E > >is: I don't know what VMS says when it's booted and the LICENSE is / > >invalid - maybe it double excepts at CPU 0.)  > I > No, if you boot VMS without sufficient licenses, you get something like  "No H > license is active for this software product", but you can still log in fromF > the console in order to type in your licenses at the command prompt. > Networking is disabled.  > J > >I checked this group's correspondence and the closest thing I found was" > >Jan 10, 4:53 pm by Tom Crabtree > >( http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/54134e495e95368d/cb5b5c51616da0d2?q=double+exception+from+CPU+0+&rnum=1#cb5b5c51616da0d2 > > 3 > >which didn't seem particularly applicable to me.  > >  > >>From what I can see:, > >- DRA0 (ALPHASYS) is the right boot disk.8 > >- The system does say a "valid boot block was found".E > >- Not a lot of IO activity goes on before the exception (SBB light  > >doesn't flash). > > ( > >Anyone got any ideas or suggestions ? > H > Sorry I have no idea what it *could* be, just thought I'd mention your* > symptoms do not match a license problem. > 2 > --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org@ > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 08:10:08 -0800 From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 bootB Message-ID: <1135699808.348756.43150@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  F Here are some more things to check out to make sure that everything is up to snuff.  ) At the >>> prompt when you do the command    >>> SHOW BOOT*  1 What do you see for BOOTDEF_DEV and BOOT_OSFLAGS?   $ What do you have set as the OS type?  G Another question, what version of the firmware is loaded on the system? C You may need to install a firmware update, although you should have ; gotten some squawks about that when you booted from the CD.   E Do you have the console support floppy for the RAID controller?  Will 7 the box run the configuration utility from the console?    Robert   Schnootling wrote: > Hello Folks, > G > As the subject says, I'm getting a double exception from CPU 0 when I B > boot from DRA0. From what I can tell, the install of VMS and theH > LICENSE REGISTER of VMS all went well. (The reason I'm mentioning thisD > is: I don't know what VMS says when it's booted and the LICENSE is. > invalid - maybe it double excepts at CPU 0.) > I > I checked this group's correspondence and the closest thing I found was ! > Jan 10, 4:53 pm by Tom Crabtree  > (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/54134e495e95368d/cb5b5c51616da0d2?q=double+exception+from+CPU+0+&rnum=1#cb5b5c51616da0d2) > 2 > which didn't seem particularly applicable to me. >  > >From what I can see: + > - DRA0 (ALPHASYS) is the right boot disk. 7 > - The system does say a "valid boot block was found". D > - Not a lot of IO activity goes on before the exception (SBB light > doesn't flash).  > ' > Anyone got any ideas or suggestions ?  >  > Chuck    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 06:07:20 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 0 Subject: Re: Addendum: TCPIP5.4  patch 5 problem( Message-ID: <ops2f36ib0zgicya@hyrrokkin>  6 On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:48:55 -0600, David J Dachtera  " <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote:  
 > BRAD wrote:  >> >> Tom Linden wrote:K >> > On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:36:59 -0800, Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote: H >> > I sopped MX manually and restarted and mail now works, so what is   >> wrong	 >> > with 0 >> > the startup sequence which reads as follows! >> > $!      Start tcpip services D >> > $       DEFINE/SYSTEM     TCPIP$POP_USE_MAIL_FOLDER        TRUED >> > $       DEFINE/SYSTEM     TCPIP$POP_PERSONAL_NAME          TRUEE >> > $       DEFINE/SYSTEM     TCPIP$POP_POSTMASTER             "TOM" D >> > $       DEFINE/SYSTEM     TCPIP$POP_IGNORE_MAIL11_HEADERS  TRUEA >> > $       DEFINE/SYSTEM     TCPIP$SMTP_JACKET_LOCAL          1 ' >> > $       @sys$startup:tcpip$startup  >>J >> It's been a few years since I ran TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS, but ISTMJ >> that the DEFINE/SYSTEM commands above should happen _after_ the startupJ >> of TCP/IP Services.  I seem to recall that there is a <mumble>SYSTARTUPJ >> command file for TCP/IP Services, where these commands could reside.  II >> _think_ that TCPIP$STARTUP calls this file near the end of its startup  >> procedure > C > Indeed. There is a TCPIP$SYSTARTUP.COM, and in general there is a G > TCPIP$service_SYSTARTUP.COM provision for the services provided by HP 
 > with (UCX).  > J Mystery solved I had done a TCPIP ANAL MAIL in an included script prior to
 tcpip startup    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 06:16:49 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march todayC Message-ID: <1135693009.066605.278890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   
 AEF wrote: > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > Lurker wrote:  > > > E > > > "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message + > > > news:439B3628.36213F03@comcast.net...  > > > E > > > I know I've promised to quit this thread but I couldn't resist.  > > > @ > > > So how do you feel about that David after the NY transport> > > > strike? And the fact that NY Times summed up the popular4 > > > feelings by the terse but explicit "You Rats!" [...]  > G > It is certainly ironic that the same law that allows the union in the I > first place also forbids them from striking. This law provides benefits H > to the transit workers, who end up with a health care plan and pensionG > most others in the country can only dream of, but with those benefits ) > come restrictions and responsibilities.  > < > Can you tell me how it's "fair" that this union should getE > ever-increasing benefits while the rest of us pay higher and higher D > taxes, tolls, and fares and have to endure far worse and sometimes > decreasing benefits?  7 Sorry to have to follow up on my own post again, but...   F I forgot to mention job security, which most other people working here don't have.   E They complain about bad work rules, and if they worked on that issue, E I'd be on their side (except not to the point of a strike!!!). (OTOH, E since they can't be fired, there has to be some way to motivate! Hey, G the threat of being fired is what motivates the rest of us!) But that's F not what was the deal breaker. It was pension reductions for new hiresE that was the deal breaker. It's a reality of this century that health G costs and pensions costs are getting out of control with more expensive G medical procedures and the rising life expectancy. Yes, there are other E issues of unfairness that need to be taken care of, but those are not A the topic at hand. You cannot have the cost of transit endlessley A spiral disproportionately higher without choking the city and the 
 commuters.   >  > > ' > > Gues y'all almost wound up singing:  > >  > > No el, No el,  > > MTA is on strike!  > F > This is sick. I'm beginning to think that YOU'RE sick. 'Substituting > nastiness for argument, eh?  > I > If you give another one of your cryptic, dodging, "I didn't say that!", C > "go back and read it for yourself", BS responses, I'm outta here!  >  > AEF    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 06:05:19 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: SSH vs Telnet( Message-ID: <ops2f325y0zgicya@hyrrokkin>  K On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:27:32 GMT, Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote:    > Tom Linden wrote:: > D >> I use PuTTY on W2k to access various nodes in a VMS cluster and I@ >> installed tcpip5.4 on a 7.3 system so I could use SSH.  Under? >> Telnet the line width would automatically adjust to changing A >> the sreen size by dragging the edge.  But under SSH the output @ >> line width remains at 80 chars.  The only change in putty wasB >> from port 23 to 22.  Why the differnet behavior and how to make >> SSH appear same as Telnet?  >>  Tom  > L > I think you want to look at the Window configuration in PuTTY and select  A > "Change the number of rows and columns" then save your session.   G It was already selected.  As I said the only difference between the two C is port selection, so it has to be on the VMS side, and a SHOW TERM 1 confirms identical settings for the two sessions.  >  > Alder    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 06:20:11 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: SSH vs Telnet( Message-ID: <ops2f4rxlzzgicya@hyrrokkin>  9 On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:25:02 -0800, John Gemignani, Jr.   ( <john@nfw-invalid.cibtrikker.com> wrote:   > 0 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message$ > news:ops18phdtdzgicya@hyrrokkin...D >> I use PuTTY on W2k to access various nodes in a VMS cluster and I@ >> installed tcpip5.4 on a 7.3 system so I could use SSH.  Under? >> Telnet the line width would automatically adjust to changing A >> the sreen size by dragging the edge.  But under SSH the output @ >> line width remains at 80 chars.  The only change in putty wasB >> from port 23 to 22.  Why the differnet behavior and how to make >> SSH appear same as Telnet?  >> >> Tom > I > The TCPIP TNDRIVER understands the TELNET Window-Size option.  If the    > clientK > sends the option, the VMS server will change the lines and columns in the I > UCB to what the client specified (assuming it fits in the fields).  The J > TCPIP SSH server does not support this option, at least it didn't when IG > last worked on the terminal interface code that it borrows from the   
 > Kerberos > telnet server that I did.  >  > John > A Thanks, I suspected something like that.  BTW, I tried it also on <    HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4 - ECO 5E    on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V7.3-2 $ and it exhibited the same behaviour.   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 08:45:04 -0800 From: "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com> Subject: Re: STARTUP.LOG? C Message-ID: <1135701904.714511.169880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   D And if you try the 20000 flag and still dont get enough information,C try 10000 -- which will generate excruciatingly detailed logging of 3 everything happening before STARTUP.COM is invoked.   C If the system is getting to the point where it invokes STARTUP.COM, E your best bet is the STARTUP_P2 setting mentioned by Jilly.  I prefer F to set all of my Alpha systems to boot with the 20000 flag, so that in> the event that something does go wrong, I have the informationF available on the 1st go without having to go back and try again.   TheF 20000 flag has no effect on the output generated after the transfer ofA control to STARTUP.COM (or whatever  is specified by the /STARTUP " setting in the system parameters).   Robert   Jilly wrote:N > The only thing I can thik of it to edit STARTUP.COM to put in the SET PREFIX > and set STARTUP_P2 to VDC. > N > "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>1 > wrote in message news:dookcb$jle$3@online.de... I > >I have an ALPHA which hangs for a couple of minutes AFTER it joins the L > > cluster.  This is a 21164A CPU (actually, two of them) so the machine isE > > quite fast.  By the time it gets to SYLOGICALS.COM, a 4000/60 has  > > already completed booting. > > K > > Is there a way to get the startup sequence before SYLOGICALS.COM logged K > > somewhere, preferably with SET PREFIX turned on, so I can see where and K > > perhaps why it is hanging?  During the hanging, no messages are written 7 > > to the console, so I have no idea what it is doing.  > > + > > Other ALPHAs don't show this behaviour.  > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:58:58 +0100 8 From: Ulrich Bellgardt <UliBellgardtsSpamSink@online.de>* Subject: Re: Submitting an exe file to run$ Message-ID: <doroc2$veo$1@online.de>   Shawn M. wrote: 	 > Hi all,  > H > I wrote a script to submit a .exe file to the sys$batch queue and when% > it runs, I get the following error:  >  > $ Set NoOn1 > $ VERIFY = F$VERIFY(F$TRNLNM("SYLOGIN_VERIFY")) 9 > %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer : >   SYSTEM       job terminated at 27-DEC-2005 08:04:34.47 >  >   Accounting information: F >   Buffered I/O count:                 35      Peak working set size:	 >    1744 B >   Direct I/O count:                   34      Peak virtual size:	 >  168064 @ >   Page faults:                       161      Mounted volumes:	 >       0 E >   Charged CPU time:        0 00:00:00.03      Elapsed time:       0 
 > 00:00:00.23  > I > The job I wrote is simple and is as follows:  I am having the users run  > it by typing @JobName  > G > $ SUBMIT/LOG=DRA0:[000000.JEFF]START.LOG/KEEP/NOPRINTER/USER=SYSTEM - , >              /AFTER="TODAY + 00:01:00.0" -/ >              DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RSYND.EXE  > $ EXIT > > A Batch queue interprets DCL Command files rather than runningE executable image files. Executable files are started usually with the F DCL command $RUN. Consequently, you need to write a little DCL commandF file, which runs the .EXE file. In its simplest form, this DCL command file consists of only one line:   H Create file e.g.                DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RUN_RSYND_EXE.COM@ with the only line         $RUN DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RSYND.EXE   Then you can  E $ SUBMIT/LOG=DRA0:[000000.JEFF]START.LOG/KEEP/NOPRINTER/USER=SYSTEM - ,                /AFTER="TODAY + 00:01:00.0" -3                DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RUN_RSYND.COM  $ EXIT   -Uli   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 07:41:41 -0800+ From: "Shawn M." <shawnm1964@sbcglobal.net> & Subject: Submitting an exe file to runC Message-ID: <1135698101.406602.169160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Hi all,   F I wrote a script to submit a .exe file to the sys$batch queue and when# it runs, I get the following error:   
 $ Set NoOn/ $ VERIFY = F$VERIFY(F$TRNLNM("SYLOGIN_VERIFY")) 7 %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer 8   SYSTEM       job terminated at 27-DEC-2005 08:04:34.47     Accounting information: D   Buffered I/O count:                 35      Peak working set size:    1744 @   Direct I/O count:                   34      Peak virtual size:  168064 >   Page faults:                       161      Mounted volumes:       0 C   Charged CPU time:        0 00:00:00.03      Elapsed time:       0  00:00:00.23   G The job I wrote is simple and is as follows:  I am having the users run  it by typing @JobName   E $ SUBMIT/LOG=DRA0:[000000.JEFF]START.LOG/KEEP/NOPRINTER/USER=SYSTEM - *              /AFTER="TODAY + 00:01:00.0" --              DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RSYND.EXE  $ EXIT   Any ideas?     Thanks,  Shawn    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 08:34:09 -0800+ From: "Shawn M." <shawnm1964@sbcglobal.net> 
 Subject: Test C Message-ID: <1135701249.753738.129350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   + Just seeing if posts are making it through.    Shawn    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:24:03 GMT ; From: "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com>  Subject: Re: Zip question = Message-ID: <TMesf.40831$q%.38966@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>    John Santos wrote: > prep@prep.synonet.com wrote: > @ >> "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com> writes: >> >>H >>> Is there a version of zip on either VMS or Linux that can zip a file
 >>> over 2GB?  >> >> >>H >>> Alternately, is there a way to get VMS Backup to write multiple save4 >>> sets so that each is below a given maximum size? >> >> >>H >> Write to a LD with a <2GB file and shuffle the files around under the, >> LD unit(s). Then zip the container files. >  > F > I think what Paul is getting at is this:  BACKUP supports writing toB > sequential disk savesets (I think that's the right terminology.)G > You can use a disk drive (or several) much as you would a tape drive. D > Backup writes to the disk until it gets full, and then asks you toD > dismount the disk, remove the disk pack, install another disk pack@ > in the drive and then it will mount the 2nd disk and continue. > E > I remember doing this many years ago to back up an RA81 (450 MB) to E > a bunch of RA60's (removable, 130MB) on an 11/780 with an extremely C > flaky tape drive, prior to doing a VMS upgrade.  (Good thing they # > had a bunch of spare disk packs.)  > D > I think Paul is suggesting you do the same thing, but with a bunchC > of virtual LD: disks, sized at just under 2GB, rather than with a F > bunch of physical DU: disks.  When the backup asks for a new volume,F > dismount the LD:, create a new LD container file and mount that, andF > tell it to go.  When all done, zip the LD container files, each into8 > its own ZIP file, and send them to the PC for burning. > / > I hope I've clarified, and not obfuscated :-)  >  > I What I am doing is making save sets on a NFS share on a Linux box during  F the night. The next day a user inserts a DVD and clicks an icon which D zips the files, burns them to the DVD and then ejects the DVD. This < allows me to back up about 15GB of VMS data to a 4.75GB DVD.G The system in question is at a service bureau and I make a saveset per  6 customer and no single save set is over the 2GB limit.  E I am setting this up at another site and am having to break down one  E directory that has most of the data in it to get the save sets to be  F under the limit. I need the whole procedure to be automatic as far as I making the save sets. There is plenty of disk space on both the VMS side  G and the Linux side. Since I already copy all the data files to another  F system as a hot backup, next I am going to try copying the data files C one at a time to a work directory until it would exceed the limit,  H backup those up to a saveset, rename them into the hot backup directory  and loop till done.   0 Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions.  
 Jeff Coffield    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.721 ************************