1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 28 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 722       Contents:9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot 9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot  Re: Another Backup suggestion  Re: Another Backup suggestion 7 How to Access Site-Specific Conditions Using F$MESSAGE? ; Re: How to Access Site-Specific Conditions Using F$MESSAGE? / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today  Patch release notes complete ?! Re: Submitting an exe file to run ! Re: Submitting an exe file to run , Re: Thank you for a great year and some jobs7 Re: Unable to LICENSE REGISTER new VMS license on Alpha @ [Fwd: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot]  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:40:56 GMT 6 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot> Message-ID: <YUfsf.47353$tV6.43431@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>  H I'd run the controller utlity and check the the disk for errors.  If VMSK sees a valid boot block the disk is present so the controller configuration J is probably good.  The next question is what type of disk is this (raid-1,5 jbod ?) and are the physical units in good condition.    --       Andy Bustamante  Remove the ASCII 95s for e-mail     2 "Schnootling" <chuckm@dis.wa.gov> wrote in message= news:1135555879.685682.270870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...  > Hello Folks, > G > As the subject says, I'm getting a double exception from CPU 0 when I B > boot from DRA0. From what I can tell, the install of VMS and theH > LICENSE REGISTER of VMS all went well. (The reason I'm mentioning thisD > is: I don't know what VMS says when it's booted and the LICENSE is. > invalid - maybe it double excepts at CPU 0.) > I > I checked this group's correspondence and the closest thing I found was ! > Jan 10, 4:53 pm by Tom Crabtree  > L (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/54134e495e9L 5368d/cb5b5c51616da0d2?q=double+exception+from+CPU+0+&rnum=1#cb5b5c51616da0d 2) > 2 > which didn't seem particularly applicable to me. >  > >From what I can see: + > - DRA0 (ALPHASYS) is the right boot disk. 7 > - The system does say a "valid boot block was found". D > - Not a lot of IO activity goes on before the exception (SBB light > doesn't flash).  > ' > Anyone got any ideas or suggestions ?  >  > Chuck  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:57:44 -0500 * From: "FredK" <fred.nospam@nospam.dec.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot* Message-ID: <43b1aac9@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  K First of all, what is a "double exception"?  Can you be very specific.  Was I it a machine check, that took a second machine check while processing the  machine check?  L Boot with the bits set in the BOOT_OSFLAGS (boot -fl) 30000  set - that is -1 turn on console output from the boot environment.       ' "R Boyd" <bob@hax.com> wrote in message < news:1135699808.348756.43150@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...H > Here are some more things to check out to make sure that everything is > up to snuff. > + > At the >>> prompt when you do the command  >  > >>> SHOW BOOT* > 3 > What do you see for BOOTDEF_DEV and BOOT_OSFLAGS?  > & > What do you have set as the OS type? > I > Another question, what version of the firmware is loaded on the system? E > You may need to install a firmware update, although you should have = > gotten some squawks about that when you booted from the CD.  > G > Do you have the console support floppy for the RAID controller?  Will 9 > the box run the configuration utility from the console?  >  > Robert >  > Schnootling wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > I > > As the subject says, I'm getting a double exception from CPU 0 when I D > > boot from DRA0. From what I can tell, the install of VMS and theJ > > LICENSE REGISTER of VMS all went well. (The reason I'm mentioning thisF > > is: I don't know what VMS says when it's booted and the LICENSE is0 > > invalid - maybe it double excepts at CPU 0.) > > K > > I checked this group's correspondence and the closest thing I found was # > > Jan 10, 4:53 pm by Tom Crabtree  > > L (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_thread/thread/54134e495e9L 5368d/cb5b5c51616da0d2?q=double+exception+from+CPU+0+&rnum=1#cb5b5c51616da0d 2) > > 4 > > which didn't seem particularly applicable to me. > >  > > >From what I can see: - > > - DRA0 (ALPHASYS) is the right boot disk. 9 > > - The system does say a "valid boot block was found". F > > - Not a lot of IO activity goes on before the exception (SBB light > > doesn't flash).  > > ) > > Anyone got any ideas or suggestions ?  > > 	 > > Chuck  >    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 13:20:37 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 bootC Message-ID: <1135718437.558845.166560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>    Fellas,   D I fear I've made a costly mistake: My machine may not be able to run OpenVMS.  E - I don't think it's the (BA350, Mylex 960, KZPAC, whatever) shelves. E My disks are JBODded. All the storage I'm using came with the system. A - I don't think it's the microcode level (I upgraded to the level A appropriate for OpenVMS 7.2 using code sent to me by Hans Vlems). @ - I think it's the machine. When I ordered it, but before it wasA delivered, I asked it it could run OpenVMS. (Answer: yes). What I D didn't do was go to the HP retired systems page and dig any further.  F My Alpha4100 has a (ahem) BLUE enclosure and uses AlphaBIOS (accordingE to correspondence on this list and stuff I've seen elsewhere, neither E of those bodes well for running OpenVMS) -- I'd be happy to be proved F wrong, though. Since I took it out of the enclosure the day it arrivedG and put the enclosure off in the shadows, I'd not thought of the colour  until yesterday.  G My sincere apologies on getting y'all all worked up about this issue. I G know some of you were frustrated at the "general-ness" of my questions, D and for that lack of precision/efficiency, I apologize. I don't haveD the box hooked up to my home network, nor do I have a system printer (yet).  D I'm going to think about how I can salvage something OpenVMSy out ofE the box. I DON'T want to run Linux or Windows (I do enough of that at + work). Or Ultrix, or DEC Unix, or whatever.    Chuck   D P.S. I drove up to Tacoma yesterday and viewed the Alpha GS140 (moreC just to see it than anything else) which Aaron Taylor has for sale. < It's an impressive machine. The power bill would be **only**C $150.00/month ... Of course, I could heat my crawlspace (and house)  with it.   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 13:25:16 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 bootC Message-ID: <1135718716.214464.284100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Fellas,   D I fear I've made a costly mistake: My machine may not be able to run OpenVMS.  E - I don't think it's the (BA350, Mylex 960, KZPAC, whatever) shelves. E My disks are JBODded. All the storage I'm using came with the system. A - I don't think it's the microcode level (I upgraded to the level A appropriate for OpenVMS 7.2 using code sent to me by Hans Vlems). @ - I think it's the machine. When I ordered it, but before it wasA delivered, I asked it it could run OpenVMS. (Answer: yes). What I D didn't do was go to the HP retired systems page and dig any further.  F My Alpha4100 has a (ahem) BLUE enclosure and uses AlphaBIOS (accordingE to correspondence on this list and stuff I've seen elsewhere, neither E of those bodes well for running OpenVMS) -- I'd be happy to be proved F wrong, though. Since I took it out of the enclosure the day it arrivedG and put the enclosure off in the shadows, I'd not thought of the colour  until yesterday.  G My sincere apologies on getting y'all all worked up about this issue. I G know some of you were frustrated at the "general-ness" of my questions, D and for that lack of precision/efficiency, I apologize. I don't haveD the box hooked up to my home network, nor do I have a system printer (yet).  D I'm going to think about how I can salvage something OpenVMSy out ofE the box. I DON'T want to run Linux or Windows (I do enough of that at + work). Or Ultrix, or DEC Unix, or whatever.    Chuck   D P.S. I drove up to Tacoma yesterday and viewed the Alpha GS140 (moreC just to see it than anything else) which Aaron Taylor has for sale. < It's an impressive machine. The power bill would be **only**C $150.00/month ... Of course, I could heat my crawlspace (and house)  with it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:45:36 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot( Message-ID: <ops2gpeat8zgicya@hyrrokkin>  G On 27 Dec 2005 13:25:16 -0800, Schnootling <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>    wrote:  F > I fear I've made a costly mistake: My machine may not be able to run
 > OpenVMS.L Gett into the BIOS then the Advanced Options when you find OS toggle on it   till youI get to VMS,  then Provide the battery is not dead it will power up in SRM    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 14:14:53 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 bootC Message-ID: <1135721693.209716.134380@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Hi Tom,    I'll check on that tonight.   = My recollection is the Advanced Options OS-Menu only gives me E Windows/NT. I'm pretty sure that I tried putting in an OpenVMS entry, G but had no luck -- it wanted a boot file/parameter, for a hard-drive or E cd-rom, in MS-Windows/DOS format ("C:\winnt\...) . I had written that 6 experience off as being a Windows/NT-specific feature.  , Perhaps I was doing something wrong, though.   Chuck    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:13:49 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot( Message-ID: <ops2gqpbemzgicya@hyrrokkin>  G On 27 Dec 2005 14:14:53 -0800, Schnootling <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>    wrote:  	 > Hi Tom,  >  > I'll check on that tonight.  > ? > My recollection is the Advanced Options OS-Menu only gives me G > Windows/NT. I'm pretty sure that I tried putting in an OpenVMS entry, I > but had no luck -- it wanted a boot file/parameter, for a hard-drive or G > cd-rom, in MS-Windows/DOS format ("C:\winnt\...) . I had written that 8 > experience off as being a Windows/NT-specific feature. > . > Perhaps I was doing something wrong, though. >  > Chuck  > I You don't put it in, you toggle for with the page up/down keys,  You need  to get into the right menu   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:33:39 +0000 (UTC) - From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot. Message-ID: <dosj0j$aoi$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes in article <11r3i93ihse4aa3@corp.supernews.com> dated Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:08:59 -0500: H >My understanding is that the systems targeted for NT were WHITE.  Blue . >should be fine.  I could be wrong.  Doubt it.  I I have run VMS on several blue Alphaserver 4100's.  It works and is fully K supported.  The only bad thing about them is the power supplies fail fairly I often.  You can run with an extra so it doesn't take down the system when I one fails.  If you decide you're going to keep this machine long-term you  should plan for this.   J >Each Alpha can run two (2) different console system/BIOS.  The AlphaBIOS I >or whatever is for booting NT.  The SRM console is for everything else,   >VMS, Unix, etc. > I >I'm not familiar with the commands, but if you're in the AlphaBIOS, you  H >need to switch to the SRM console.  Pretty sure there are instructions F >in the VMS FAQ.  Also this topic has been hashed out before, try the 
 >archives.  ( Or call the vendor who sold it to you.    0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:08:59 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot0 Message-ID: <11r3i93ihse4aa3@corp.supernews.com>   Schnootling wrote:	 > Fellas,  > F > I fear I've made a costly mistake: My machine may not be able to run
 > OpenVMS. > G > - I don't think it's the (BA350, Mylex 960, KZPAC, whatever) shelves. G > My disks are JBODded. All the storage I'm using came with the system. C > - I don't think it's the microcode level (I upgraded to the level C > appropriate for OpenVMS 7.2 using code sent to me by Hans Vlems). B > - I think it's the machine. When I ordered it, but before it wasC > delivered, I asked it it could run OpenVMS. (Answer: yes). What I F > didn't do was go to the HP retired systems page and dig any further. > H > My Alpha4100 has a (ahem) BLUE enclosure and uses AlphaBIOS (accordingG > to correspondence on this list and stuff I've seen elsewhere, neither G > of those bodes well for running OpenVMS) -- I'd be happy to be proved H > wrong, though. Since I took it out of the enclosure the day it arrivedI > and put the enclosure off in the shadows, I'd not thought of the colour  > until yesterday.  G My understanding is that the systems targeted for NT were WHITE.  Blue  - should be fine.  I could be wrong.  Doubt it.   I Each Alpha can run two (2) different console system/BIOS.  The AlphaBIOS  H or whatever is for booting NT.  The SRM console is for everything else,  VMS, Unix, etc.   H I'm not familiar with the commands, but if you're in the AlphaBIOS, you G need to switch to the SRM console.  Pretty sure there are instructions  E in the VMS FAQ.  Also this topic has been hashed out before, try the  	 archives.    --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com 170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:28:44 -0700 $ From: Jeff Campbell <n8wxs@arrl.net>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot6 Message-ID: <1135733447_189@spool6-east.superfeed.net>  H The HALT switch, held engaged during power-up, will force the machine toB stop in the SRM console at the point it would have switched to the
 AlphaBIOS.  * Once HALTed at the SRM's >>> prompt, type:    >>> SET OS_TYPE OPENVMS	  >>> INIT   2 The machine will now power up in SRM console mode.  
 Jeff Campbell  n8wxs@arrl.net   Schnootling wrote:	 > Hi Tom,  >  > I'll check on that tonight.  > ? > My recollection is the Advanced Options OS-Menu only gives me G > Windows/NT. I'm pretty sure that I tried putting in an OpenVMS entry, I > but had no luck -- it wanted a boot file/parameter, for a hard-drive or G > cd-rom, in MS-Windows/DOS format ("C:\winnt\...) . I had written that 8 > experience off as being a Windows/NT-specific feature. > . > Perhaps I was doing something wrong, though. >  > Chuck  >     Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 20:41:41 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 bootC Message-ID: <1135744900.980363.193910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Hello Everyone,    I GOT VMS TO BOOT !!!    Here's what I found/did:G 1) My machine was already set to OpenVMS in the AlphaBios CMOS Advanced = Settings (However, I went into AlphaBIOS and confirmed this.) , 2) I booted the OpenVMS installation CD-ROM, set LMF$LICENSE to DRA0, did a LICENSE START, followed by LICENSE LOAD. 2 3) when I tried to do a LICENSE LIST/BRIEF, I got:< "undefined terminal - couldn't access system terminal table" 4) so, I booted to SRM: 5) a SHOW BOOT*  showed BOOT_OSFLAGS having a value of "a", 6) I did a BOOT -FL 30000  and VMS came up !% 7) VMS did (what I think must be) the ? setup-after-installation-autoconfigure-stuff then automatically  rebooted itself - 8) the system had a double exception at CPU 0 E 9) I took my sledgehammer out and beat the crap out of an unfortunate  2x4 laying nearby ! 10) then I SET BOOT_OSFLAGS 30000  11) and did a BOOT 12) and VMS came up !!!!!   G My monitor (an old Epson extended VGA) shows multiple HP logos arranged G horizontally across the screen which is probably not desired behaviour, D so I figure it's time to get another, supported monitor. I do have aE VT420 on COM1 (I think, bottom-most serial port on left), but it only  blinks.   G At any rate, I think I'm pretty much outta the woods. My sincere thanks A to Jeff, Keith, Tom, Dave, Hans, Fred, Andy, Richard, Robert, and + Everyone Else who put up with my ramblings.    Chuck    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:45:02 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot2 Message-ID: <05122723450269_2027A458@antinode.org>  . From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>  < > 5) a SHOW BOOT*  showed BOOT_OSFLAGS having a value of "a"  H    Typical for a Tru64 system.  It causes VMS to look for [SYSA] insteadB of [SYS0], which is a problem unless you take steps to compensate.  G > 9) I took my sledgehammer out and beat the crap out of an unfortunate  > 2x4 laying nearby # > 10) then I SET BOOT_OSFLAGS 30000   %    "0,0" would be the normal setting.   I > My monitor (an old Epson extended VGA) shows multiple HP logos arranged I > horizontally across the screen which is probably not desired behaviour, F > so I figure it's time to get another, supported monitor. I do have aG > VT420 on COM1 (I think, bottom-most serial port on left), but it only 	 > blinks.   G    It's usually possible to change the sweep rates.  Search the Web for H DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COM.  Not knowing which graphics card you have( makes specific advice hard to determine.  E    You might try the other serial port.  What's the terminal set to?  F 9600b/s, 8 bits, no parity is a popular parameter set.  Console "show"8 may offer some hints as to current serial port settings.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:52:46 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)& Subject: Re: Another Backup suggestion$ Message-ID: <dof77d$jl0$3@online.de>  ( Now that we're all suggesting things....  F What about allowing multiple savesets (wildcards, lists) as the first " parameter for a restore operation?  0 $ BACK A.B/SAV,B.B/SAV/SEL=(A.*,B.%%) DISK:[DIR]  I Note that the HELP for BACKUP Parameters isn't clear that, for a restore  G operation, the first parameter cannot be/resolve to more than one file.   H While you're at it, FIX HELP.  This was broken a while back when things 2 were added to it.  I would like to be able to type   $  HELP BACKUP   then    
    Parameters   " This doesn't work.  I have to type   $  HELP BACKUP Parameters   H in one go.  This is not consistent with how HELP had worked for decades  before this change was made.   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:52:49 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda)& Subject: Re: Another Backup suggestion2 Message-ID: <05122722524936_2027A458@antinode.org>  P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)  J > While you're at it, FIX HELP.  This was broken a while back when things 4 > were added to it.  I would like to be able to type >  > $  HELP BACKUP >  > then   >  >    Parameters  > $ > This doesn't work.  I have to type >  > $  HELP BACKUP Parameters  > J > in one go.  This is not consistent with how HELP had worked for decades  > before this change was made.  F    It works for me (V5.4, V7.3-2), _if_ I read down to the place whereA the "Additional information available:" heading appears.  I don't 1 remember a time when this behavior was different.   H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode.org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 16:49:00 -0800( From: "Craig Dedo" <Dedo.Craig@mayo.edu>@ Subject: How to Access Site-Specific Conditions Using F$MESSAGE?B Message-ID: <1135730940.242902.20420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  E How do you access the message text from site-specific condition codes * from the DCL command line using F$MESSAGE?  C I think I know how to do this, but I am going to ask anyway in case 3 some readers can provide more detailed information.   ? Using the OpenVMS Message Utility we have developed a number of F site-specific messages and facility codes for our internally-developedF programs.  We can access these messages from inside of the program butF we also need to access them from the DCL command line using F$MESSAGE.    E I have read the relevant material in the OpenVMS Programming Concepts C Reference Manual and the OpenVMS Command Definition, Librarian, and @ Message Utilities Reference Manual.  It appears that some of theB step-by-step details are missing form the technical documentation.  F In order to have access to site-specific messages from the DCL commandG line, you need to perform two additional steps, in addition to creating 7 the message object module from the message source file.   C 1.  Link the message object file(s) into a non-executable image.  I  presume this means using: 4     $ LINK /SHAREABLE message-object-file.OBJ, . . .A Is /SHAREABLE the right qualifier to use?  Should I use any other / qualifier in addition or instead of /SHAREABLE?   D 2.  Use the SET MESSAGE command to add the shareable image(s) to theG list of files that the process searches for when interpreting messages.   e.g.,&     $ SET MESSAGE message-filespec.EXE  B Other than these two steps, is there anything that is necessary or desirable for me to do?    Craig T. Dedo, VMS Consultant $ Mayo Central Lab for Clinical Trials& Superior Drive Support Center 2-110-26 200 1st Street SW  Rochester, MN   55905  Voice Phone:  (507) 538-4636   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:18:42 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>D Subject: Re: How to Access Site-Specific Conditions Using F$MESSAGE?+ Message-ID: <43B21222.3A2C231E@comcast.net>    Craig Dedo wrote:  > G > How do you access the message text from site-specific condition codes , > from the DCL command line using F$MESSAGE? > E > I think I know how to do this, but I am going to ask anyway in case 5 > some readers can provide more detailed information.  > A > Using the OpenVMS Message Utility we have developed a number of H > site-specific messages and facility codes for our internally-developedH > programs.  We can access these messages from inside of the program butH > we also need to access them from the DCL command line using F$MESSAGE. > G > I have read the relevant material in the OpenVMS Programming Concepts E > Reference Manual and the OpenVMS Command Definition, Librarian, and B > Message Utilities Reference Manual.  It appears that some of theD > step-by-step details are missing form the technical documentation. > H > In order to have access to site-specific messages from the DCL commandI > line, you need to perform two additional steps, in addition to creating 9 > the message object module from the message source file.  > E > 1.  Link the message object file(s) into a non-executable image.  I  > presume this means using: 6 >     $ LINK /SHAREABLE message-object-file.OBJ, . . .C > Is /SHAREABLE the right qualifier to use?  Should I use any other 1 > qualifier in addition or instead of /SHAREABLE?    See the on-line documentation:    http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc  E Select the OpenVMS operating system link inthe left column, then look  for:  C OpenVMS Command Definition, Librarian, and Message Utilities Manual 7 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/6100/6100PRO.HTML   F > 2.  Use the SET MESSAGE command to add the shareable image(s) to theI > list of files that the process searches for when interpreting messages.  >  e.g.,( >     $ SET MESSAGE message-filespec.EXE > D > Other than these two steps, is there anything that is necessary or > desirable for me to do?   C That should get you there. At least, it works for SLS, an old "DEC"  product.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:04:53 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today+ Message-ID: <43B20EE5.395D4B31@comcast.net>   
 AEF wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > Lurker wrote:  > > > E > > > "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message + > > > news:439B3628.36213F03@comcast.net...  > > > E > > > I know I've promised to quit this thread but I couldn't resist.  > > > @ > > > So how do you feel about that David after the NY transport> > > > strike? And the fact that NY Times summed up the popular4 > > > feelings by the terse but explicit "You Rats!" > > , > > Ever heard the expression "sour grapes"? > * > So you're actually upset about it? Cool!  3 O.k., show me where such a conclusion is justified.    > (Hey, when you give a short,   ...non- H > cryptic response, don't complain that you were misunderstood or say "I > didn't say that!"   7 It's *NOT* cryptic, it is *EXTREMELY* straight forward!   G ...and once again, as is obvious to even the most casual observer, *NO* H I DID *NOT* SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   > >  > > > And maybe, just ? > > > maybe, you have happened to be in that city and trying to  > > > catch a bus? > > I > > Nope - knew better, and planned ahead! (novel concept, I realize, but  > > hey ...) > G > Uh-huh. Plan ahead. Can you tell me how the fireman who was biking to F > work because of the strike and was nearly killed by a (private) bus,D > and who is now in the hospital in critical condition with numerous+ > broken bones could have planned for that?  >  > Can you tell me... > I > how the sick and disabled could have planned to do without their health  > aids?  > G > how cancer patients on chemo and radiation therapy could have planned G > to get to their place of therapy? You'd have them sleep on the couch,  > no doubt.   A Contact their care-givers (the only ones qualified to answer such  questions).   C > how the city could plan for losing tens of millions of dollars in  > taxes?   Which taxes are those?     Certainly not transit taxes.    B Even in Tokyo or Beijing, the daily ridership is not sufficient toE produce tax income for public transit amounting to seven figures over  the course of only three days.  I > how the city could have "planned" around spending 10 million for police $ > overtime (might have been 10M/day)  G How many hundreds of thousands of police officers are employed by NYPD? F any figure short of six digits would require 10+ hours of overtime per9 man-day to yield an eight-figure value such as you quote.   5 > how people could "plan" to walk many miles to work?   H Counter-question: how many could have arranged to telecommute, otherwise8 work from home or take vacation/PTO in case of a strike?  E > how businesses could plan on losing over $1B of business during the H > Christmas shopping season, which many of those businesses need just to! > stay in the black for the year?   D $1 gigabuck for three days? That means the retailers effected by theF strike must take in $10+ gigabux for the entire "shopping season" fromC the day after Thanksgiving to 24-Dec. Can you back that up with the ( appropriate figures to make it work out?  D Let's see, now: if there are some 11 million people in the entire NYH metro area, and each of them spends $1,000 for their Christmas shopping,9 that might be possible. *MIGHT*, that is, but not likely.    So, no - I don't buy it.  6 > What would it take for you to disapprove of the TWU?  G Counter-question: what would take for you to APPROVE of the TWU? *MUST* H they meet criteria of absolute perfection? ...or would you even consider7 accepting a balance between what's desirable and what's  possible/practical?   E > Ya know, David, you could still agree that the TWU acted selfishly,    Hardly.    > illegally,  ; Based on a law which is itself of questionable legality and  constitutionality? Not likely.  
 > thuggishly,    No basis in fact.    > irresponsibly,    Conjecture and no basis in fact.   > and morally reprehensively  $ Opinion. Unjustifiable in any terms.   > and @ > still be pro-union. They're not the only union. In fact, theirI > international parent union was against the strike and ordered them back  > to work!!!  H Well, technically, the parent union advised them against striking and inG the end convinced the locals that the strike was not legally defensible ? and was potentially financially destructive if the fines levied G withstand the inevitable legal challenges. No one "forced" anyone to do 	 ANYthing.   H > BTW, the city did plan ahead. They had contignecy plans and we did theG > best we could in light of a very difficult situation. (Hey, I suppose 8 > the tsunami victims should have "planned ahead", too!) > I > The city also planned ahead by instituting the Taylor Law. The union is  > out $3 million.   F If the fines levied withstand the inevitable legal challenges. The lawE itself will probably face a legal challenge of its own in the days to  come.   9 > I guess they should have planned for that. The strikers H > are out a minumum of 6 days' pay -- and perhaps $25,000 each on top ofF > that -- should have planned! Toussaint was held in contempt of court; > and nearly landed in jail. You know: should have planned!   F They did: the made choices. Difficult choices, certainly, and probablyG not the choices most folks would make. Then again, even PATCO knew what H might happen, but placed honor above the law (laws are laws, but are not$ always the "honorable" thing to do).  G > It is certainly ironic that the same law that allows the union in the I > first place also forbids them from striking. This law provides benefits H > to the transit workers, who end up with a health care plan and pensionG > most others in the country can only dream of, but with those benefits ) > come restrictions and responsibilities.   H Unions cannot be legislated against - such a law would quickly be struckH down as unconstitutional. There is no provision in the constitution thatC allows for work stoppages to be banned by law; however, the Supreme E Court of the U.S. (the de-facto ultimate source of legislation, which 9 itself is unconstitutional) has not established this yet.   < > Can you tell me how it's "fair" that this union should getE > ever-increasing benefits while the rest of us pay higher and higher D > taxes, tolls, and fares and have to endure far worse and sometimes > decreasing benefits?  F Same as any other labor body that megotiates with an employer or group
 of employers.    > > ' > > Gues y'all almost wound up singing:  > >  > > No el, No el,  > > MTA is on strike!  > F > This is sick. I'm beginning to think that YOU'RE sick. 'Substituting > nastiness for argument, eh?   D If I hadn't said it, some media maven would have (and probably did).  I > If you give another one of your cryptic, dodging, "I didn't say that!", C > "go back and read it for yourself", BS responses, I'm outta here!   A Well, those are my usual, non-cryptic, non-dodging, "I didn't say C that!", "go back and read it for yourself", non-BS responses. So, I   guess you're outta here (again).   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:08:33 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today+ Message-ID: <43B20FC1.517B1EB2@comcast.net>   
 AEF wrote: > 9 > Sorry to have to follow up on my own post again, but...  > H > I forgot to mention job security, which most other people working here
 > don't have.   > Like anything else, it is a characteristic that is negotiated.  8 ...and don't kid yourself: the only true job security isC self-employment. *ANY*time you relinquish control of your financial H well-being, you tacitly accept the consequence that your cashflow can beC interrupted at anytime without warning through no fault of your own $ other than working for someone else.   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 22:16:34 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march todayB Message-ID: <1135750594.588160.64430@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > AEF wrote: > >  > > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > > Lurker wrote:  > > > > G > > > > "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message - > > > > news:439B3628.36213F03@comcast.net...  > > > > G > > > > I know I've promised to quit this thread but I couldn't resist.  > > > > B > > > > So how do you feel about that David after the NY transport@ > > > > strike? And the fact that NY Times summed up the popular6 > > > > feelings by the terse but explicit "You Rats!" > > > . > > > Ever heard the expression "sour grapes"? > > , > > So you're actually upset about it? Cool! > 5 > O.k., show me where such a conclusion is justified.  >   > > (Hey, when you give a short, > 	 > ...non- J > > cryptic response, don't complain that you were misunderstood or say "I > > didn't say that!"  > 9 > It's *NOT* cryptic, it is *EXTREMELY* straight forward!   	 Prove it.    > I > ...and once again, as is obvious to even the most casual observer, *NO* J > I DID *NOT* SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  A prove it. oR just explain it more clearly. Who's going after what  grapes?    >  > > >  > > > > And maybe, just A > > > > maybe, you have happened to be in that city and trying to  > > > > catch a bus? > > > K > > > Nope - knew better, and planned ahead! (novel concept, I realize, but  > > > hey ...) > > I > > Uh-huh. Plan ahead. Can you tell me how the fireman who was biking to H > > work because of the strike and was nearly killed by a (private) bus,F > > and who is now in the hospital in critical condition with numerous- > > broken bones could have planned for that?  > >  > > Can you tell me... > > K > > how the sick and disabled could have planned to do without their health 	 > > aids?  > > I > > how cancer patients on chemo and radiation therapy could have planned I > > to get to their place of therapy? You'd have them sleep on the couch, 
 > > no doubt.  > C > Contact their care-givers (the only ones qualified to answer such 
 > questions).   F I'm sure they did and they were still screwed. Well, I don't know thatD for a fact, but you're strangely silent about the fireman who nearlyE got killed and is in critical condition in the hospital with numerous ; broken bones after being hit by a bus while biking to work.    > E > > how the city could plan for losing tens of millions of dollars in 
 > > taxes? >  > Which taxes are those?  F Taxes that would have been collected by businesses that were otherwiseF closed, from shoppers who were otherwise walking or sitting in trafficC for hours to and from work, from Christmas shoppers easily spending E hundreds of dollars each, from meals that most workers get from local  restaurants, ....   D What does it matter. You'll always side with the union. According to2 you it seems impossible for the union to do wrong.   >  > Certainly not transit taxes.  E There are no transit taxes. In fact, NYC gives, IIRC from the mayor's G own words, $500,000,000/year to the MTA. And that comes from taxes paid > for by NYC residents whether they use MTA mass transit or not.   > D > Even in Tokyo or Beijing, the daily ridership is not sufficient toG > produce tax income for public transit amounting to seven figures over   > the course of only three days.  E If people can't get to work, they can't open businesses and therefore E lose a lot of money.  that money gets taxed, and the city loses that. C And if customers don't show because their home or stuck in traffic, C they can't buy anthing. Many businesses that did manage to open had " next to zero customers. See above.   > K > > how the city could have "planned" around spending 10 million for police & > > overtime (might have been 10M/day) > I > How many hundreds of thousands of police officers are employed by NYPD? H > any figure short of six digits would require 10+ hours of overtime per; > man-day to yield an eight-figure value such as you quote.   ? OK, I'll do the math for you: 35000 officers on 12-hour shifts:   ? $10,000,000 / (35000 officers * 12 hours) = $23.80/hour/officer   F not terribly unreasonable given overtime rates. Yes, all 35000 of them  were deployed on 12-hour shifts.  7 > > how people could "plan" to walk many miles to work?  > J > Counter-question: how many could have arranged to telecommute, otherwise: > work from home or take vacation/PTO in case of a strike?  F You tell me; it's your point. Certainly many have to show up for work:F doctors can't telecommute. delivery people can't telecommute. firemen,B police, teachers, utility workers, emergency workers, nurses, shop owners, security workers, ....  ) And telecommuting is pretty sucky anyway.   F And we didn't even get to the massive, and I mean massive traffic jamsF across all major East River crossings. Imagine all the gas wasted, allD the pollution generated. And then there were the thousands of peopleF waiting in sub-freezing temperatures to get into Penn Station to catch the LIRR trains.   > G > > how businesses could plan on losing over $1B of business during the J > > Christmas shopping season, which many of those businesses need just to# > > stay in the black for the year?  > F > $1 gigabuck for three days? That means the retailers effected by theH > strike must take in $10+ gigabux for the entire "shopping season" fromE > the day after Thanksgiving to 24-Dec. Can you back that up with the * > appropriate figures to make it work out? > F > Let's see, now: if there are some 11 million people in the entire NYJ > metro area, and each of them spends $1,000 for their Christmas shopping,; > that might be possible. *MIGHT*, that is, but not likely.   D No, 11 million spending $100 comes to 1.1 billion. Quite reasonable. Check your math.   >  > So, no - I don't buy it.   What a surprise!   > 8 > > What would it take for you to disapprove of the TWU? > I > Counter-question: what would take for you to APPROVE of the TWU? *MUST* J > they meet criteria of absolute perfection? ...or would you even consider9 > accepting a balance between what's desirable and what's  > possible/practical?   F Absolute perfection? They aren't anywhere near perfection of any kind.F Not even in the same solar system. That's like saying a CEO who abusesG his company and/or workers shouldn't be disapproved of because he's not  perfect.   > G > > Ya know, David, you could still agree that the TWU acted selfishly,  > 	 > Hardly.    words escape me.   >  > > illegally, > = > Based on a law which is itself of questionable legality and   > constitutionality? Not likely.  < This law was passed in 1967. That's quite a long time for anC unconstitutional law to still be on the books. Can you back up your  claim?   >  > > thuggishly,  >  > No basis in fact.    wrong    >  > > irresponsibly, > " > Conjecture and no basis in fact.   wrong    >  > > and morally reprehensively > & > Opinion. Unjustifiable in any terms.   wrong    >  > > and B > > still be pro-union. They're not the only union. In fact, theirK > > international parent union was against the strike and ordered them back  > > to work!!! > J > Well, technically, the parent union advised them against striking and inI > the end convinced the locals that the strike was not legally defensible A > and was potentially financially destructive if the fines levied I > withstand the inevitable legal challenges. No one "forced" anyone to do  > ANYthing.   C WRONG! The strikers forced millions of people to suffer needlessly.   D And I heard on the news that the parent union "ordered" them back to work.   J > > BTW, the city did plan ahead. They had contignecy plans and we did theI > > best we could in light of a very difficult situation. (Hey, I suppose : > > the tsunami victims should have "planned ahead", too!) > > K > > The city also planned ahead by instituting the Taylor Law. The union is  > > out $3 million.  > H > If the fines levied withstand the inevitable legal challenges. The lawG > itself will probably face a legal challenge of its own in the days to  > come.   F Haven't heard of any such thing, so probably not. The last I heard theD fines still stick, and they should. Hey, if there's any chance of itF being unconstitutional I'm sure the ACLU would already be on the case,E and they're not AFAIK. And if it is constitutional, there's something  wrong with the Constitution.   > ; > > I guess they should have planned for that. The strikers J > > are out a minumum of 6 days' pay -- and perhaps $25,000 each on top ofH > > that -- should have planned! Toussaint was held in contempt of court= > > and nearly landed in jail. You know: should have planned!  > H > They did: the made choices. Difficult choices, certainly, and probablyI > not the choices most folks would make. Then again, even PATCO knew what J > might happen, but placed honor above the law (laws are laws, but are not& > always the "honorable" thing to do).  9 LOL! Screwing 210 people per transit worker is honorable?   D No, they placed greed above the law. There's nothing honorable aboutC what they did. All the harm they did is honorable? All the economic E losses, the people getting sick from overexerting and waiting in line F in subfrezing temperatures to get to and from work, the fireman nearly? being killed riding his bike to work -- this is honorable? It's E honorable to try to extort even more money from people whose benefits F aren't even a small fraction of what the TWU workers already have, and@ also after the MTA met many of their demands (see the Daily NewsA editorial from Dec 13, 2005) including the MTA backing off on its F redueced pensions for future hires demands, giving a reasonable raise,E and a bonus? How is this honorable? And in response to the MTA giving F in at least paritally to many of their demands, the TWU responded thatA pensions to already retired workers be increased! Talk about your  reverse Robin Hood!!!   D And they say their strike helps all workers? How the hell does it doG that? It fattens their pockets at the expense of the workers they claim  to be helping!  ? Health costs and pension costs are spiraling out of control and C businesses and gov't have to do something about it. That's reality.   F HOW IS IT HONORABLE FOR THE TWU, WHOSE WORKERS HAVE IT FAR BETTER THANC MOST OF THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE, TO EXTORT EVEN MORE MONEY FROM THESE D VERY SAME PEOPLE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME CAUSING GREAT ECONOMIC HARM= AND PUTTING LIVES IN DANGER? Please explain to me how this is G honorable? How is this different from CEO's screwing their workers just F because they can or think they can? How is it honorable for the TWU toF run commercials full of blatant lies (and just because some buisnesses: to that to sell their products doesn't make it honorable)?  F These workers get top-of-the-line health benefits for their family for life.   @ How is it honorable for workers whose benefits packages are "farF sweeter than those enjoyed by 99% of American workers" (quote from theG Daily News editorial from the day before the strike) to screw 210 times G as many people for three days with a net loss for EVERYONE involved? It  was selfish, greedy, and dumb.  ; Read the Daily News editorial from Dec 13, 2005. It's quite 
 illuminating.    > I > > It is certainly ironic that the same law that allows the union in the K > > first place also forbids them from striking. This law provides benefits J > > to the transit workers, who end up with a health care plan and pensionI > > most others in the country can only dream of, but with those benefits + > > come restrictions and responsibilities.  > J > Unions cannot be legislated against - such a law would quickly be struckJ > down as unconstitutional. There is no provision in the constitution thatE > allows for work stoppages to be banned by law; however, the Supreme G > Court of the U.S. (the de-facto ultimate source of legislation, which ; > itself is unconstitutional) has not established this yet.   ! I find this very hard to believe.    > > > > Can you tell me how it's "fair" that this union should getG > > ever-increasing benefits while the rest of us pay higher and higher F > > taxes, tolls, and fares and have to endure far worse and sometimes > > decreasing benefits? > H > Same as any other labor body that megotiates with an employer or group > of employers.   	 Nonsense.    >  > > > ) > > > Gues y'all almost wound up singing:  > > >  > > > No el, No el,  > > > MTA is on strike!  > > H > > This is sick. I'm beginning to think that YOU'RE sick. 'Substituting > > nastiness for argument, eh?  > F > If I hadn't said it, some media maven would have (and probably did).  F Not a valid excuse. Remind me to send you a similar laughing nastygramC if you become unable to do VMS work because of some similar reason.   K > > If you give another one of your cryptic, dodging, "I didn't say that!", E > > "go back and read it for yourself", BS responses, I'm outta here!  > C > Well, those are my usual, non-cryptic, non-dodging, "I didn't say E > that!", "go back and read it for yourself", non-BS responses. So, I " > guess you're outta here (again).  E Wrong again! This was better than all of your other responses, except & that your answers are all still wrong.  E Email me your fax number and I'll fax you the Daily News editorial to  which I referred.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:23:16 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ' Subject: Patch release notes complete ? , Message-ID: <43B1E8D4.CF3043B9@teksavvy.com>   General question:   B When looking at the release notes for a patch, do they outline allD fixes, or it is common for there to be additional fixes that are not documented ?  ? For example: starting with TCPIP Services 5.3 (VAX),  TCPIP SET F INTERFACE SL1 /etc crashes the system right then and there. And I haveE not seen any mention of this being fixed in any of the patches issues ; for 5.3 (cax). Does this mean that it is still not fixed ?    E One of my nodes with the serial ports has been stuck at 5.1 to retain ? that capability.  Now, with my multiple systems, I may have the E opportunity to upgrade a node but if it is 99.99% sure that a problem H not mentioned in the release notes is not fixed, then I won't waste time" and plan on keeping a node at 5.1.   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:17:22 +0000 (UTC) 3 From: Howard Siegel <not.interested@nospam.invalid> * Subject: Re: Submitting an exe file to run, Message-ID: <dos7gh$fa1$1@reader1.panix.com>    shawnm1964@sbcglobal.net writes:H > I wrote a script to submit a .exe file to the sys$batch queue and when% > it runs, I get the following error:  >  > $ Set NoOn1 > $ VERIFY = F$VERIFY(F$TRNLNM("SYLOGIN_VERIFY")) 9 > %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffer : >   SYSTEM       job terminated at 27-DEC-2005 08:04:34.47 >  > I > The job I wrote is simple and is as follows:  I am having the users run  > it by typing @JobName  > G > $ SUBMIT/LOG=DRA0:[000000.JEFF]START.LOG/KEEP/NOPRINTER/USER=SYSTEM - , >              /AFTER="TODAY + 00:01:00.0" -/ >              DRA0:[SYNERGYDE.SERVER]RSYND.EXE  > $ EXIT  D The batch processor is just the DCL interpreter, so you can't submitD ".exe" files to it.  You ca submit a DCL command procedure that then runs your ".exe".    - h      --    ? hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com  <*>  Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom!    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 17:17:55 -0800+ From: "Shawn M." <shawnm1964@sbcglobal.net> * Subject: Re: Submitting an exe file to runB Message-ID: <1135732675.821275.24490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  * Great and Thanks to all for your comments.   Shawn    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 19:10:05 -0800) From: "Sue" <susan_skonetski@hotmail.com> 5 Subject: Re: Thank you for a great year and some jobs C Message-ID: <1135739405.382754.129910@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   " Thank you all for your kind words, sue    ------------------------------    Date: 27 Dec 2005 20:49:08 -0800. From: "Schnootling" <chuckmoore55@hotmail.com>@ Subject: Re: Unable to LICENSE REGISTER new VMS license on AlphaC Message-ID: <1135745348.197161.219250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Hello David,  D Here are my notes on how to get the INSTALLED messages:  (substitute" your own boot-disk alias for DRA0)' 1) BOOT the OpenVMS installation CD-ROM & 2) Choose Option 7 at the install menu< 3) DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC LMF$LICENSE DRA0:[....]LMF$LICENSE.LDB	 4) LOGOUT & 5) Choose Option 4 at the install menu
 6) Enter DRA0  7) Enter NO ' 8) Amongst the output lines, you'll see ' DEC AXPVMS V7.3-2 Oper System INSTALLED   G Note: I did the preceding before I did the LICENSE LOAD described in my D last post to "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot".   Chuck  Chuck    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:40:21 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net> I Subject: [Fwd: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot] * Message-ID: <43B1C2D5.5060306@comcast.net>   Schnootling wrote:	 > Fellas,  > F > I fear I've made a costly mistake: My machine may not be able to run
 > OpenVMS. > G > - I don't think it's the (BA350, Mylex 960, KZPAC, whatever) shelves. G > My disks are JBODded. All the storage I'm using came with the system. C > - I don't think it's the microcode level (I upgraded to the level C > appropriate for OpenVMS 7.2 using code sent to me by Hans Vlems). B > - I think it's the machine. When I ordered it, but before it wasC > delivered, I asked it it could run OpenVMS. (Answer: yes). What I F > didn't do was go to the HP retired systems page and dig any further. > H > My Alpha4100 has a (ahem) BLUE enclosure and uses AlphaBIOS (accordingG > to correspondence on this list and stuff I've seen elsewhere, neither G > of those bodes well for running OpenVMS) -- I'd be happy to be proved H > wrong, though. Since I took it out of the enclosure the day it arrivedI > and put the enclosure off in the shadows, I'd not thought of the colour  > until yesterday. >   C Not so fast...at my previous two jobs, "topgun" Blue 4100's ran VMS > without issue.  At my previous job, we had three "topgun Blue"H AlphaSystem 1200's that booted with the AlphaBIOS - I was able to switch( them to the SRM console without trouble.  E The incantation to switch "consoles" is available on the OpenVMS FAQ:   7 <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_022.html#alpha21>    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.722 ************************