1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 29 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 725       Contents: Re: Another Backup suggestion  DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS  RE: Honeypot stats' Re: ISO9660 compatibility - please help ' Re: ISO9660 compatibility - please help  KVM Switches! Re: old EZ disks with latest VMS?  Re: SSH  Re: SSH  Re: SSH  RE: STARTUP.LOG? RE: STARTUP.LOG?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:35:49 +0200 4 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman.nospam@hp.com>& Subject: Re: Another Backup suggestion% Message-ID: <43B3E635.B1BA850@hp.com>    Guy Peleg wrote: > 1 > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message ? > news:1135009159.323397.127380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...  > >  > > Albrecht Schlosser wrote:  > > > Phillip Helbig wrote: F > > > > In article <11nund.9b.ln@news.hus-soft.de>, Albrecht Schlosser# > > > > <ajs856@tiscali.de> writes:  > > > >  > > > > @ > > > >>>Last week I added a new qualifier - /PROGRESS_REPORT=n.G > > > >>>The new qualifier instructs BACKUP to write progress report to H > > > >>>SYS$OUTPUT (which may be a log file) every n seconds.  We writeM > > > >>>the new CTRL-T message to the log file (data saved/restored, current > > > > >>>file, rate and estimated completion time) prefixed by# > > > >>>%BACKUP-I-PROGRESS_REPORT,  > > > >>M > > > >>Fine, but I'm missing some sort of time stamp, at least with the line E > > > >>"... starting verification pass" (or similar). Sometimes it's J > > > >>interesting to know how long it took to write the saveset and when@ > > > >>backup started verification (and backup date recording). > > > >  > > > >  > > > > $ SET PREFIX > > > >  > > > M > > > Nice, didn't know that :-) , but this would only show the completion of  > > > the backup command.  > > >  > > > Albrecht > > J > > Just to be more clear, and to second this request, SET PREFIX will notH > > show you when the verification and backup passes start, or any other$ > > BACKUP messages for that matter. > >  > L > Would it help if I'll modify the message indicating the verification phase9 > started to include date and time? Something similar to:  > 1 > Starting verification pass on 20-DEC-2005 07:00  >  > Guy     
 *Y*E*S* !! --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 08:02:44 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com & Subject: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMSC Message-ID: <1135872164.385335.307320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   D I just got a nice e-mail from my service provider that my DNS serverF was "mis-configured, infected, and/or compromised".   Since I'm rarelyG worried about my OpenVMS system being compromised or infected, this was  kind of a surprise!   G The problem is with DNS recursive queries.  By an attacker spoofing the F client IP address, your DNS server can be used to DDoS a target system? using recursive DNS queries.  Since the default option for BIND G (including OpenVMS) is to allow recursive queries, OpenVMS name servers A can be abused in this way.  This also can be used to protect your   system from DNS cache poisoning.  D You will want to turn off recursive queries for remote hosts (not onE your network), but your local users and networks should still be able F to use recursive DNS to resolve hosts.  Fortunately, this is very easy to do.  < In your TCPIP$BIND.CONF file, add a line like the following:  1 acl internal { 10.0.0.0/8 ; 209.39.152.0/24 ; } ;   F Okay, you will need to replace the IP addresses with those of your DMZA and local LAN side of your networks (i.e. 192.168.0.0/16, and the E like).  Note the ";" characters, BIND is picky about them.  This line G creates an Access Control List that defines your local TCP/IP addresses  to the BIND server.   F Now, you need to add a line to your BIND options section to only allow$ recusion from the internal networks:  	 options {          ... (         allow-recursion { internal ; } ;         ...  } ;   @ If you do no have an options section, just add one with only theB allow-recursion option.   If you are hosting (master or slave) for@ zones, I would hope you have an allow-transfers{} clause in your options section already.  E See CERT's <a href="http://www.cert.org/archive/pdf/dns.pdf">Securing H an Internet Name Server</A> document (a PDF) for additional information.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:19:56 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: Honeypot stats R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738CD@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----3 > From: Neil Rieck [mailto:n.rieck@sympatico.ca]=20 " > Sent: December 28, 2005 11:50 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Honeypot stats  >=20 >=207 > "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote in message=20 @ > news:FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738C1@tayexc19.americas. > cpqcorp.net... >=20 > >Neil, > > G > >While I will certainly agree with the positioning of Windows lack of H > >security, one also has to consider the fact that Red Hat has releasedH > >approx 285 *security* patches this year alone (not maint - security). > > 
 > >Reference: < > >https://www.redhat.com/archives/enterprise-watch-list/=20 > (click on thread" > >for each month and add them up) > > C > >In both cases with Windows and Linux, the challenges for serious ? > >operations shops is not the time to download and roll-out=20  > these patches B > >(althought it is extremely resource intensive and causes reboot@ > >scheduling head-aches), but rather the time to test and QA=20 > these patches 8 > >with the various applications that are in production. > > H > >Of course, a company could choose not to QA/test the patches and justF > >roll them out, but then that company does not likely have a serious > >production environment. > > F > >Btw, a recent security white paper can be found at: (good one which> > >explains the inherent architecture multiple rings benefits); > >http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA0-2896ENW.pdf  > > 
 > >Regards > > 
 > >Kerry Main  > >Senior Consultant > >HP Services Canada  >=20@ > Kerry, thanks for the links; I'll pass them along to my peers. >=20< > I hope you don't think I've become a big UNIX/LINUX fan=20 > because I still=209 > think OpenVMS is the best operating system currently=20  > available. But like VHS=20? > vs. BETA (or Macintosh vs. Windows) I do not think it is a=20  > good idea for any=20> > company to ignore LINUX and/or Open Source software. This=20 > stuff will never=20 B > go away because there are just too many people involved with it. >=20B > BTW, I commend the OpenVMS Engineering folks for doing things=20 > like GNV; this=20 < > olive branch is starting to depolarize "some" of the IT=20 > people I deal with;=20$ > these efforts are getting noticed. >=20  	 [snip...]   	 Neil -=20   C I agree that all OS's have a place. HP has a multi-platform support @ strategy because it recognizes different Cust's will always have different requirements.   B My concern is that all to often, platform decisions are being madeE without a full understanding of the real cost to the company i.e. the $ 800lb gorilla operational impact.=20  C If a company has a production environment that requires OS security H patches be applied as soon as possible and that no patch will be appliedF unless QA'ed and certified against their production applications, thenC they need to understand what the QA/testing workload and associated E costs are going to be with that new platform. If the new platform has F monthly security patches, should not these costs (staffing, resources,3 lab time) be part of the overall decision criteria?   F If the company is willing to roll-out monthly security patches withoutA Application testing, then it becomes only the roll-out and reboot H scheduling that has to be taken into consideration. However, these costsF should also be part of the new platform decision process. Someone at aH high mgmt level also has to be willing to take on the responsibility forE a patch causing an application failure - especially those in the Open > Source arena where application and base platform code is often extensively customized.=20  F At the risk of raising the ire of some on this list, it is unfortunateG that way to many application developers in some companies are put in IT F decision making positions and do not concern themselves with security,A backups, DR/BC, staff training, integration, monitoring software, C viruses, trojans, worm type issues and hence these issues get swept E under the carpet when new platform or application decisions are being E made.  These developers all to often get caught up in the latest buzz E words like SOA, J2EE, .Net, "Open" systems without fully appreciating H what the real impact these big changes are going to be on their company.    G With many Customers now being forced to reduce their IT costs *period*, G while at the same time taking on all sorts of new services, it is going C to be very difficult to hide these operational costs in the future.   E In the future, those in IT with a "solutions" focus (real costs - App E +base +Operational +training +integration +DR/BC +security)) are imho ? going to much more valuable to their company than those with an 9 "applications veneer" focus (App +base) base costs alone.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:11:45 -0500 ( From: "Chuck F. " <cbfalconer@yahoo.com>0 Subject: Re: ISO9660 compatibility - please help< Message-ID: <Jt6dnTLMROh6FC7enZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@maineline.net>   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > ! > "Didi" <dp@tgi-sci.com> writes:   >= >> I have been struggling for over two days now with this. My @ >> ISO9660 output translation code makes and burns an ISO9660 CD> >> (no Joliet, nothing - plainest ISO 8.3), which Windows (XP) >> won't accept... > % > So you have a problem with Windows.  > & > And why do you post to comp.os.vms ? > @ > If you tried it on VMS you failed to describe the results, andB > even then you should not be bothering all the _other_ newsgroups  7 Obviously because he is not sure where to find someone  C knowledgeable on the subject.  What _you_ should be criticizing is  B his failure to set follow-ups.  We can't do it because we have no ? idea what group he originally posted in.  I think it is fairly   topical for c.a.e.   --  A A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. ' Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?  A: Top-posting. ; Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:31:04 -0700 ! From: smh <smhong@mindspring.com> 0 Subject: Re: ISO9660 compatibility - please help. Message-ID: <43B3ACD8.B2C6A771@mindspring.com>  2 .           --------------------------------------/                Mike Richter, were you born with 2             "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?2             --------------------------------------   Didi wrote:  > 9 > I have been struggling for over two days now with this. 4 > My ISO9660 output translation code makes and burns8 > an ISO9660 CD (no Joliet, nothing - plainest ISO 8.3),$ > which Windows (XP) won't accept...6 >  Obviously my ISO input (which is many years of age)4 > does read it as it reads any other CD it has seen.: > I found a utility for Windows (isobuster) which had some/ > objections initially; after some fixing of my 3 > code this thing now just opens the disk and reads < > absolutely everything without reporting any errors at all.D >  I am looking at the header (Windows won't accept the disk at all,. > it says the disk file system is damaged) and: > I canot see the reason why my disk is rejected... I have= > put the starting part of the disk (root directory included) ; > at http://tgi-sci.com/isohdr.img , as it appears starting : > with LBN 0 at the rewritable CD (written in mode 1, 20487 > bytes per block) I am burning to test the whole mess. 6 >  Please, if there is some ISO knowledgeable soul out; > there, have a look  - I'll appreciate any hint, right now 4 > I have run out of ideas and I am going to sleep...
 >  Thanks, > 	 > Dimiter   E Why don't you burn them with some burn software, like burnatonce, and H compare them with Sector View of IsoBuster?  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I have a E pair of Digital Personal Workstations at home (433au,500au). I really F need a KVM switch so I can share my lcd display, keyboard and mouse. IG tried using a Raritan 2-port switch but to no avail. Keyboard problems. > Obviously geared to pc keyboards and not supporting the LK46W.  F Any suggestions on what switches do work would be greatly appreciated.   Bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:22:16 -0500  From: "Jilly" <jilly@hp.com>* Subject: Re: old EZ disks with latest VMS?* Message-ID: <43b41b49@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  M "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>  / wrote in message news:doujc7$uu2$1@online.de... F >I have a couple of 256-MB EZ disks.  I used to use them for page/swapF > files (handy if the machine has only 48 MB RAM!) but they don't workG > anymore.  A single disk works fine, and I can build a shadow set, but I > when the shadow copy is about 99% complete, the shadow set starts going J > in and out of mount verification several times a second and the only way$ > out is to power-cycle the machine. > G > This behaviour started after an upgrade, if I recall correctly either F > the upgrade to VMS 7.3-2 or after applying a SHADOWING and/or SYSTEMJ > and/or UPDATE patch.  Since I can live without these disks, I didn't tryC > rebooting from the backup system disk to check the old behaviour. E > However, since the disks seem OK physically, and work as individual  > disk, I suspect a VMS bug. > ? > Is anyone using such disks with a fully patched 7.3-2 system?  >   I If these were my disks I'd do the following where disk2 = currently used  7 disk and disk1 = disk not able to add to the shadow set   ) Take disk1,  INIT/ERASE/SYSTEM disk1 junk 6 If this completes w/o errors BACKUP/IMAGE  disk2 disk1" reboot to use newly restored disk1 INIT/ERASE/SYSTEM disk2 5 If this completes w/o errors BACKUP/IMAGE disk1 disk2 ' Now try and create the shadow set again    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 13:38:26 +0100K From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40)  Subject: Re: SSH! Message-ID: <jw48CMJl7D7y@sinead>   w In article <doujfl$uu2$2@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: J > I'm thinking of using SSH on VMS.  For various reasons, I want to stick < > with HP TCPIP and also with the SSH which comes with that. > J > Is this product "mature" enough for, shall we say, serious hoobyist use?K > Both client and server?  Is there SSH for VAX?  How easy is installation  I > and configuration?  (Presumably if I have the latest TCPIP and patches  / > installed, then I just need to configure it.)    Hi all,   = Is there a way to install TCPIP 5.4 under VMS 7.2-1 (Alpha) ?   O I know it is not supported but I heard someone telling it was working. However, L I cannot depack (under 7.2-1) the PCSI compressed archive found on the 7.3-2M distribution CD (I have 7.3-2 running at work but only 7.2-1 at home). I need I it because our ssh gate is now only supporting ssh v2. Actually, I use an K Armada E500 under Knoppix 3.7 (hard disk install, working very well) as an  F ssh V2 gateway. It works but a native support under VMS wil be better.  ! And Happy New Year in advance ...    Patrick  --O =============================================================================== N pmoreau@ath.cena.fr              ______      ___   _          (Patrick MOREAU)4 DSNA/DTI/SDER (ex CENA)         / /   /     / /|  /|J Athis-Mons France              / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/              http://membres.lycos.fr/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:13:46 -0500 % From: BRAD <bradhamilton@comcast.net>  Subject: Re: SSH* Message-ID: <43B3E10A.6030605@comcast.net>   Patrick MOREAU wrote: 	 > Hi all,  > ? > Is there a way to install TCPIP 5.4 under VMS 7.2-1 (Alpha) ?   H Is the home system a hobbyist system?  If so, you are not tied to using = TCP/IP Services; you can use either TCPware or Multinet from  C process.com.  Both offerings work under V7.2-1, and offer superior  ! functionality to TCP/IP Services.    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 18:10:32 +01006 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: SSH* Message-ID: <43b42698@news.langstoeger.at>  o In article <jw48CMJl7D7y@sinead>, pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.68.40) writes: > >Is there a way to install TCPIP 5.4 under VMS 7.2-1 (Alpha) ?  : Yes. But regarding a "successful install" I don't know ;-)  G >I know it is not supported but I heard someone telling it was working.   M All I heard was TCPIP V5.4 is/was working on V7.3 but only up to TCPIP ECO 4. K Iff it is working on V7.2-1 (why don't you run V7.2-2 ?) at all then surely  with similar restrictions.    O >                                                                      However, M >I cannot depack (under 7.2-1) the PCSI compressed archive found on the 7.3-2 G >distribution CD (I have 7.3-2 running at work but only 7.2-1 at home).   G V7.2* surely can't handle .PCSI$COMPRESSED kits. But V7.3-2 can produce J a .PCSI kit from a .PCSI$COMPRESSED kit. So this roadblock is a small one.  N >                                                                       I needJ >it because our ssh gate is now only supporting ssh v2. Actually, I use anL >Armada E500 under Knoppix 3.7 (hard disk install, working very well) as an G >ssh V2 gateway. It works but a native support under VMS wil be better.   8 Why don't you run TCPware V5.7-2 ? It is finished now...  " >And Happy New Year in advance ...   The same to you    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:40:26 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>  Subject: RE: STARTUP.LOG? R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738CB@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----& > From: R Boyd [mailto:bob@hax.com]=20" > Sent: December 27, 2005 11:45 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: STARTUP.LOG?  >=20F > And if you try the 20000 flag and still dont get enough information,E > try 10000 -- which will generate excruciatingly detailed logging of 5 > everything happening before STARTUP.COM is invoked.  >=20E > If the system is getting to the point where it invokes STARTUP.COM, G > your best bet is the STARTUP_P2 setting mentioned by Jilly.  I prefer H > to set all of my Alpha systems to boot with the 20000 flag, so that in@ > the event that something does go wrong, I have the informationH > available on the 1st go without having to go back and try again.   TheH > 20000 flag has no effect on the output generated after the transfer ofC > control to STARTUP.COM (or whatever  is specified by the /STARTUP $ > setting in the system parameters). >=20 > Robert >=20 > Jilly wrote:A > > The only thing I can thik of it to edit STARTUP.COM to put=20  > in the SET PREFIX  > > and set STARTUP_P2 to VDC. > > 1 > > "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply"=20 # > <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> 3 > > wrote in message news:dookcb$jle$3@online.de... A > > >I have an ALPHA which hangs for a couple of minutes AFTER=20  > it joins theB > > > cluster.  This is a 21164A CPU (actually, two of them) so=20 > the machine isG > > > quite fast.  By the time it gets to SYLOGICALS.COM, a 4000/60 has   > > > already completed booting. > > > : > > > Is there a way to get the startup sequence before=20 > SYLOGICALS.COM logged B > > > somewhere, preferably with SET PREFIX turned on, so I can=20 > see where and ; > > > perhaps why it is hanging?  During the hanging, no=20  > messages are written9 > > > to the console, so I have no idea what it is doing.  > > > - > > > Other ALPHAs don't show this behaviour.  > > >     F To see what sysgen parameters you can use for startup_p1 and startup2, enter the following:   sysgen> help sys startup  D Startup_p2 options include detailed logging such as "set verify" for most of the startup files.  F I prefer to set startup_p2 "D" which logs the console type messages to sys$system:startup.log.=20  D To keep all the startup logs and not risk having them purged at someG point, you could then submit a batch job to start few minutes after the H startup is finished to rename startup.log to startup_date-time.log. ThatG same batch job could then move the log file off the system disk if need D be and it could search the log file for errors or warnings after the6 system is booted and send email if it finds something.  E If the system is a multi-root system disk, then the file is available D via other systems for review even if a system is hanging on boot.=20  C P.s. do not forget to "sysgen write current" to make the startup_p2 ' change permanent if that is the intent.    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 09:05:53 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: RE: STARTUP.LOG? 3 Message-ID: <LHaecXZEZX$t@eisner.encompasserve.org>   | In article <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738CB@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> writes:  F > To keep all the startup logs and not risk having them purged at someI > point, you could then submit a batch job to start few minutes after the E > startup is finished to rename startup.log to startup_date-time.log.   @ Another approach is to take away privileges from individuals whoD would issue a willy-nilly wildcard PURGE command without considering the consequences.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.725 ************************                                                                                                                                              P2/ɖO_YgkaO){/W ﭴ&knw0+ٕp¥(rQe[%1lWtBVxК,9\52w9;GCunh=X+])/қ/@=WSw;W
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