1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 30 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 726       Contents:9 Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot  Re: Another Backup suggestion  BACKUP forgot/lost files Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files cURL 7.15.1 released! Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS ! Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS ! Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS ! Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS ! Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS  Re: Honeypot stats/ Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today / Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today  Re: KVM Switches! Re: old EZ disks with latest VMS?  Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability  Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability  Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability  Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability  vms smtp problem Re: vms smtp problem+ Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ... + Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...  Re: Zip question Re: Zip question  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:58:20 +0000 (UTC) - From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) B Subject: Re: "Double Exception from CPU 0" on Alpha 4100 DRA0 boot. Message-ID: <dp1m5r$50a$1@newslocal.mitre.org>  i dittman@dittman.net writes in article <3aDsf.5695$Ff6.5099@trnddc01> dated Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:09:19 GMT: / >Keith A. Lewis <klewis@omega.mitre.org> wrote: L >> I have run VMS on several blue Alphaserver 4100's.  It works and is fullyN >> supported.  The only bad thing about them is the power supplies fail fairlyL >> often.  You can run with an extra so it doesn't take down the system whenL >> one fails.  If you decide you're going to keep this machine long-term you >> should plan for this. > J >I hadn't had this experience with Alphaserver 4100 systems.  The ones I'm/ >around have been running for a long time, too.   K Maybe I got a bad batch.  Most of mine were purchased in 1997 from a single 	 reseller.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:11:47 +0000 (UTC) P From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply)& Subject: Re: Another Backup suggestion$ Message-ID: <dof8b3$jl0$4@online.de>  D In article <dof77d$jl0$3@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de3 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:    * > Now that we're all suggesting things.... > H > What about allowing multiple savesets (wildcards, lists) as the first $ > parameter for a restore operation? > 2 > $ BACK A.B/SAV,B.B/SAV/SEL=(A.*,B.%%) DISK:[DIR]  $ The error message is also confusing:  N %BACKUP-W-DUPOPT, previously specified callable interface option type ignored,& argument position 10, option type = 68@ %BACKUP-F-SAVSETNAM, save-set name must be in first list element   Why not say   O %BACKUP-E-MULTSAVSETS, only one save set can be specified as an input parameter    or something similar?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:23:58 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> ! Subject: BACKUP forgot/lost files + Message-ID: <43B453D9.172833D@teksavvy.com>   " Something I never expected on VMS.  H I *think* I did a BACKUP/IGNORE=INTERLOCK/NOIMAGE of one disk to a boundG volume set. (sicne the source was a modern SCSI disk and this was being E sent to old DSSI drives I had to create a bound volume set to contain  the files).   F Low and behold, I am finding out that some files have not been copied.G And I am tasking about some text files that would not have been used at  the time the backup was made.   F In the ALLIN1 software directory alone, out of some 3122 files scanned= on the original drive, some 35 are missing on the new drive.    A (I exclude obvious log files which are transient from the above).   G Since the backup was done a few weeks ago, the data on the old drive is H stale, so this is going to be quite an effort to ensure the new drive isB reloaded with the missing files minus files whose non-existance is+ explained (log files, email messages etc).    H Is this a bug in the /BOUND software on VMS which drops files randomly ?  A bug in backup ?  C Do I have any assurance that I won't continue to be losing files ?    : ANA/DISK/REPAIR on the bound volume set finds no problems.  E I guess this is one instance where /VERIFY is really necessary. I had @ trusted VMS, its file system and BACKUP in the past. But now....   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:44:01 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files + Message-ID: <43B46697.D632551@teksavvy.com>   G Update: on 28,834 files searched, 110 valid files were forgotten by the  BACKUP operation.   E (excluded are .DIR, SYS, .LOG files as well as files in one directory  which I deleted).   H Most of these files would not have been opened at the time of the backup operation.    D I am now using a procedure to COPY individual files. And will run myD checking procedure twice afterwards to ensure that the missing files- have indeed been created on the target drive.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:17:55 GMT # From: Beach Runner <bob@nospam.com> % Subject: Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files 9 Message-ID: <D8_sf.11238$bd.3499@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>   F If you can document that, and you have the backup patch, please put a D call in for elevation if you have a contract. Or we can recreate it.  8 I'd love to do the elevation.  rcomarow@cfl.rr.comNOSPAM     JF Mezei wrote:   I > Update: on 28,834 files searched, 110 valid files were forgotten by the  > BACKUP operation.  > G > (excluded are .DIR, SYS, .LOG files as well as files in one directory  > which I deleted).  > J > Most of these files would not have been opened at the time of the backup
 > operation.   > F > I am now using a procedure to COPY individual files. And will run myF > checking procedure twice afterwards to ensure that the missing files/ > have indeed been created on the target drive.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:01:49 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> % Subject: Re: BACKUP forgot/lost files , Message-ID: <43B4A2F4.5939E0AD@teksavvy.com>   Beach Runner wrote:  > G > If you can document that, and you have the backup patch, please put a F > call in for elevation if you have a contract. Or we can recreate it.  H Is it really worth it ? I am on VAX at 7.2. You guys don't even consider 7.2 a landing zone.    For what it is worth:   C Source: Microvax II with Dialog SQ739 SCSI card with a 10 gig drive  (about 4 gigs worth of data).    Target: 4 RF73 drives   @ MOUNT/SYSTEM/CLUSTER/BIND=CAMPY $4$dia1,$4$dia2,$4$dia3,$4$dia4 & CAMPAGNOLO,DISK42,DISK43,DISK44 $DISK2  G If I had had logs from the original backup, perhaps it might yield some G clues.  I think I had posted my backup command previously, I'll have to B look up the magic incantation I used to get BACKUP to recreate theD direct5ory structure and onwership (eg: the equivapent of /IMAGE but with new file ids).     E The next opportunity to test this will be when I move my data back to G SCSI drives once I have found a way to install them in a 4000, at which , point I can play with the DSSI drives again.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 16:03:09 -06004 From: kuhrt.nospammy@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) Subject: cURL 7.15.1 released 3 Message-ID: <6SdOunQMoXvP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   A The latest version of cURL, 7.15.1, has been released for OpenVMS  and is available for download.  5 The location is http://curl.haxx.se/download.html#VMS   > This is the binary and object library distribution of the cURL> 7.15.1 release.  See the readme.vms file in the zip for usage A information.  The zip files contain executables and objects built > with OpenSSL, hpSSL and without SSL support.  The files are in architecture specific zips.   A The OpenSSL and noSSL versions are self-contained in that you can A run these programs without any other software on the system.  For A the hp SSL version, you will need to have hp's SSL V1.1-B product @ installed.  This version doesn't support hp's SSL on IA64, since) the machine I compile on doesn't have it.   C  HW Type  VMS Version    Compiler Vers   SSL Library      Filenames D --------+--------------+---------------+----------------+-----------D  Alpha  | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.5-001 | OpenSSL 0.9.7e | .*_opensslB  Alpha  | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.5-001 | hpSSL 1.1-B    | .*_hpsslB  Alpha  | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.5-001 | No SSL support | .*_nosslD  IA64   | OpenVMS 8.2  |  HP C S7.1-13 | OpenSSL 0.9.7d | .*_opensslB  IA64   | OpenVMS 8.2  |  HP C S7.1-13 | No SSL support | .*_nosslD  VAX    | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.4-005 | OpenSSL 0.9.7e | .*_opensslB  VAX    | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.4-005 | hpSSL 1.1-B    | .*_hpsslB  VAX    | OpenVMS 7.3  | DEC C 6.4-005 | No SSL support | .*_nossl  H For those who don't know what cURL is, here is the blurb from their main page...   ;     Curl is a command line tool for transferring files with :     URL syntax, supporting FTP, FTPS, HTTP, HTTPS, GOPHER,4     TELNET, DICT, FILE and LDAP. Curl supports HTTPS5     certificates, HTTP POST, HTTP PUT, FTP uploading, 7     kerberos, HTTP form based upload, proxies, cookies, <     user+password authentication, file transfer resume, http9     proxy tunneling and a busload of other useful tricks.   C I haven't tested all the features, since I only use the library for F HTTP(S) stuff via C programs.  It does compile and link cleanly on all the platforms outlined above.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:00:42 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG* Subject: Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS0 Message-ID: <00A4F011.1A4D7765@SendSpamHere.ORG>  _ In article <1135872164.385335.307320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, davidc@montagar.com writes:  >  > E >I just got a nice e-mail from my service provider that my DNS server G >was "mis-configured, infected, and/or compromised".   Since I'm rarely H >worried about my OpenVMS system being compromised or infected, this was >kind of a surprise! > H >The problem is with DNS recursive queries.  By an attacker spoofing theG >client IP address, your DNS server can be used to DDoS a target system @ >using recursive DNS queries.  Since the default option for BINDH >(including OpenVMS) is to allow recursive queries, OpenVMS name serversB >can be abused in this way.  This also can be used to protect your! >system from DNS cache poisoning.  > E >You will want to turn off recursive queries for remote hosts (not on F >your network), but your local users and networks should still be ableG >to use recursive DNS to resolve hosts.  Fortunately, this is very easy  >to do.  > = >In your TCPIP$BIND.CONF file, add a line like the following:  > 2 >acl internal { 10.0.0.0/8 ; 209.39.152.0/24 ; } ; > G >Okay, you will need to replace the IP addresses with those of your DMZ B >and local LAN side of your networks (i.e. 192.168.0.0/16, and theF >like).  Note the ";" characters, BIND is picky about them.  This lineH >creates an Access Control List that defines your local TCP/IP addresses >to the BIND server. > G >Now, you need to add a line to your BIND options section to only allow % >recusion from the internal networks:  > 
 >options { >        ...) >        allow-recursion { internal ; } ;  >        ... >} ; > A >If you do no have an options section, just add one with only the C >allow-recursion option.   If you are hosting (master or slave) for A >zones, I would hope you have an allow-transfers{} clause in your  >options section already.  > F >See CERT's <a href="http://www.cert.org/archive/pdf/dns.pdf">SecuringI >an Internet Name Server</A> document (a PDF) for additional information.     : Thanks for the heads up David and this useful information.  / Long time no see you here.  How's the family?      --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:02:47 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> * Subject: Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS, Message-ID: <43B45CF0.55AEB302@teksavvy.com>   davidc@montagar.com wrote:> > In your TCPIP$BIND.CONF file, add a line like the following: > 3 > acl internal { 10.0.0.0/8 ; 209.39.152.0/24 ; } ;     
 works on VAX.    > options { 
 >         ... * >         allow-recursion { internal ; } ;
 >         ...  > } ;  >     ; Not supported on VAX. Remmeber that VAX is stuck at BIND 8.   G There is a "recursion" command in the executable, but not sure what the  parameters are.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:07:40 -0600 % From: Dan Foster <usenet@evilphb.org> * Subject: Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMS5 Message-ID: <slrndr8nhc.40u.usenet@zappy.catbert.org>   [ In article <43B45CF0.55AEB302@teksavvy.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:  > davidc@montagar.com wrote: >>         ...+ >>         allow-recursion { internal ; } ;  >>         ... >> } ; >>   > = > Not supported on VAX. Remmeber that VAX is stuck at BIND 8.  > I > There is a "recursion" command in the executable, but not sure what the  > parameters are.   A The BIND 8 manual page, converted to ASCII text, can be found at:   F http://holmes.acc.virginia.edu/netsys/bind8/bind8_man/named.conf.5.txt  H Apparently, the parameter is either 'yes' or 'no'. Not quite what you'reB looking for, because it makes a nameserver either authoritative or. caching, and doesn't actually limit recursion.  D Another possible option is to apply a network or host access control; list (ACL) entry protecting port 53/tcp and 53/udp traffic?   B I.e., done at the router, firewall, or if a host has firewall-likeI software loaded... (Couldn't TCP/IP nee UCX, TCPware, or Multinet do it?)    -Dan   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 14:20:29 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.com * Subject: Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMSC Message-ID: <1135894829.256514.294580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   - yes, we do it with TCPware packet filters ...    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 18:17:59 -0800 From: davidc@montagar.com * Subject: Re: DNS DDoS potential in OpenVMSB Message-ID: <1135909079.432042.68470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  C Okay, from the CERT document, you should be able to do this on your G VAX, or any BIND 8.  What this does is turn off recusive queries except @ for internal networks, then add an option for each zone to allow	 queries.:    # define internal networks# acl internal { 192.168.0.0/16 ; } ;    # prohibit recursion	 options {          ... $         allow-query { internal ; } ;         ...  } ;   . # permit queries for each zone mastered/slaved zone "your.zone.name.here" {         ...          allow-query { any ; } ;  } ;    zone "your.other.zone.here" {          ...          allow-query { any ; } ;  } ;    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:28:44 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: Honeypot stats , Message-ID: <43B454F6.D4A7D795@teksavvy.com>   "Main, Kerry" wrote:E > I agree that all OS's have a place. HP has a multi-platform support B > strategy because it recognizes different Cust's will always have > different requirements.     ! grass eating mammal excrement :-)   F HP is multi platform because it switched platforms instead of evolvingG its core platform. When Unix became popular, HP started a UNIX platform D and kept its older platforms. When Windows became popular, HP jumpedG into the money losing bandwwagon and was still stuck having to maintain H its older platforms. And when HP bought Compaq, in reluctantly inheritedH miscellaneous stuff like VMS, Tru64 and Tandem/NSK which it didn't want.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:57:16 -0600 2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march today+ Message-ID: <43B4BE2C.54786406@comcast.net>   
 AEF wrote: >  > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > AEF wrote: > > > [snip] > > G > > I'm intentionally posting this as a separate reply to side-step the 
 > > S/N... > > < > > (I'm trying to helpful here, so retract your fangs, 'k?) > @ > Hmmmm. You're the one laughing at us with that cruel Noel bit. > < > > Consider the tone of your replies, and THEN the content. > H > To quote Mick Jagger, he said something like when people are polite toH > me, I'm polite to them. If they're nasty, I'm nasty back. I try to errH > on the nice side as if all people went all out to get what they insistG > is fair, there'd certainly be huge areas of disagreement, which gives 8 > us the world we have. Everyone needs to give a little. > K > > You display a serious "victim" paradigm. Not at all uncommon - in fact, I > > it's actually the norm in much of society, but just the same it's not H > > especially healthy, either (200+ million wrongs don't make a right). > > J > > What would *I* do in the face a mass-transit outage, especially if the+ > > duration was expected to be protracted?  > > G > > I'd find a way to deal with it. Sure, I'd bitch, moan, "kvetch" (as L > > Larry G. likes to say), etc., but then I'd get down to the task at hand:! > > figuring out what to do next.  > > G > > I'm sure the end result would be less than ideal, of that I am 100% K > > certain. But, the result I'd achieve would certainly be MORE ideal than L > > the result of complaining, lashing out and otherwise playing the victim. > > 7 > > Find the serenity to accept what you cannot change.  > > 3 > > Find the courage to change what you CAN change.  > > L > > The wisdom to know the difference will come to you naturally, even if it( > > is ultimately a hard-learned lesson. > > I > > (Non-religious variation on "The Serenity Prayer", (C)2005 by David J # > > Dachtera, All Rights Reserved.)  > ( > That's why the Taylor Law was enacted.  # Sorry - didn't get the connection.    E How does taking control of your own life compare to a law that denies > the constitutional rights of the work force under the guise ofD "protecting the greater good"? (Hint to students of mid-20th-centuryB history, especially that of central Europe: does this sound at all
 familiar?)   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/    Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 21:46:46 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march todayB Message-ID: <1135921606.023288.58960@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > Lurker wrote:  > > 8 > > "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in message7 > > news:CTQsf.1686$Yk2.256358@news20.bellglobal.com...  > > > 5 > > > "Lurker" <nowhere@nothing.com> wrote in message 4 > > > news:OiOsf.11131$vH5.541083@news.xtra.co.nz... > > > [...snip...] > > > > G > > > > Well, I don't know about the panacea, but have you noticed that H > > > > most (if not all) police departrments impose speed restrictions,K > > > > legal blood levels, wearing seat belts and so on? Assumedly, that's G > > > > supposed to cut down on the level of accidents. Surely imposing L > > > > a strike ban on certain categories of employees falls under the same > > > > category?  > > > > P > > > I'm OK with any legislation that favors both parties but sometimes certainL > > > types of legislation will favor one party at the expense of the other. > > J > > No, sorry. There are jobs  that simply do not allow bargaining. That'sG > > why the laws are there to prevent that. How would you like a strike K > > of ambulance drivers, emergency room surgeons, firefigthers and police?  > > All at the same time?  > I > So that justifies emasculating these workers' ability to negotiate fair  > working conditions?   C Negotiate? OK. Strike, no. The transit workers have far better than  "fair working conditions".   > P > > > So in retrospect I must conclude that being allowed to with hold your workI > > > (with no pay) at certain times is the only way to maintain a proper  > > balance < > > > of force on both parties during contract negotiations. > > M > > Not if you have agreed to forgo that right (to withhold your work) during K > > your contract negotiations. Or you wouldn't have been offered the terms  > > you've got.  > @ > ...which is, after all, the point of striking after good-faith > negotiations have failed.  > J > > Yes, of course, you are free to decide you don't want those terms and,5 > > by consequence, the benefits. Just don't sign up.  > F > ...and what do you do when the rules are changed unilatreally by theB > employer? Chuck it all and go work someplace else? Cast off yourE > seniority and everything else you've worked for over the course of,  > possibly, decades? Get real!   Yes. Yes. Already done.    >  > > As someone in this thread " > > likes to say - live with it... > I > (...usually referring to the fact that life is imperfect and not always  > convenient.) >  > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  >  > Coming soon:( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 22:08:24 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>8 Subject: Re: HP : Massive strike and protest march todayB Message-ID: <1135922904.165574.16870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   David J Dachtera wrote:  > AEF wrote: > >  > > David J Dachtera wrote:  > > > AEF wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > I > > > I'm intentionally posting this as a separate reply to side-step the  > > > S/N... > > > > > > > (I'm trying to helpful here, so retract your fangs, 'k?) > > B > > Hmmmm. You're the one laughing at us with that cruel Noel bit. > > > > > > Consider the tone of your replies, and THEN the content. > > J > > To quote Mick Jagger, he said something like when people are polite toJ > > me, I'm polite to them. If they're nasty, I'm nasty back. I try to errJ > > on the nice side as if all people went all out to get what they insistI > > is fair, there'd certainly be huge areas of disagreement, which gives : > > us the world we have. Everyone needs to give a little. > > M > > > You display a serious "victim" paradigm. Not at all uncommon - in fact, K > > > it's actually the norm in much of society, but just the same it's not J > > > especially healthy, either (200+ million wrongs don't make a right). > > > L > > > What would *I* do in the face a mass-transit outage, especially if the- > > > duration was expected to be protracted?  > > > I > > > I'd find a way to deal with it. Sure, I'd bitch, moan, "kvetch" (as N > > > Larry G. likes to say), etc., but then I'd get down to the task at hand:# > > > figuring out what to do next.  > > > I > > > I'm sure the end result would be less than ideal, of that I am 100% M > > > certain. But, the result I'd achieve would certainly be MORE ideal than N > > > the result of complaining, lashing out and otherwise playing the victim. > > > 9 > > > Find the serenity to accept what you cannot change.  > > > 5 > > > Find the courage to change what you CAN change.  > > > N > > > The wisdom to know the difference will come to you naturally, even if it* > > > is ultimately a hard-learned lesson. > > > K > > > (Non-religious variation on "The Serenity Prayer", (C)2005 by David J % > > > Dachtera, All Rights Reserved.)  > > * > > That's why the Taylor Law was enacted. > $ > Sorry - didn't get the connection.  D Change what you can: The Taylor Law was that change. Unfortunattely,F there are still strikes from time to time, but that is in part becauseF the law is not strictly enforced. The NY Post had some stuff to say in
 this respect.    > G > How does taking control of your own life compare to a law that denies @ > the constitutional rights of the work force under the guise ofF > "protecting the greater good"? (Hint to students of mid-20th-centuryD > history, especially that of central Europe: does this sound at all > familiar?)  D I take issue with your premise. It is criminal what the TWU did, butG the unions have a bit of a stranglehold on NYC for various reasons (see D yesterday's NY Post column by Adam Brodsky about this. I don't thinkF anyone has a constitutional right to cause hugely disproportional harmE to those who are worse off in an effort to extort more for themselves B from those same worse-off people they work for: the riding public.  D I'm really tired of this. You keep saying the union has the right toF "fairness" and we keep telling you they are already well past fair andG are themselves being very unfair to the rest of us. Tell us, David, why 3 it's okay for the union to be grossly unfair to us?   E Here it is, but you'll have to register (but the column is free for a  week I think).  >     http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/59574.htm  E What the TWU did with its strike is similar to what the CEO does when F he steals pension money from his work force through fraud. Except whatD the TWU did is extortion. Strangely, the NY Times said the union gotB pretty much the same deal it would have had if they had not struckF while the (NY) Daily News and NY Post said they got something a littleC more. The MTA won on health benefits, perhaps, but the union won on  pension.  E The NY Post column I refer to says the Taylor Law actually allows the C MTA to fire the union workers. The previous law REQUIRED them to be @ fired. But these provisions are never enforced for various silly$ reasons. See the column for details.  G I'm wondering why the buisnesses that lost so much money in this strike $ don't sue the TWU. Does anyone know?   >  > -- > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systems  > http://www.djesys.com/ > + > Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: $ > http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/  > $ > Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/  >  > Coming soon:( > Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:38:57 +0000 (UTC) < From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) Subject: Re: KVM Switches ) Message-ID: <dp1l1h$hjc$1@news.BelWue.DE>    In article <1135881433.987446.5670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" <vmsmangler@earthlink.net> writes: D >I have been using VMS since VMS 4.7 and retired last year. I have aF >pair of Digital Personal Workstations at home (433au,500au). I reallyG >need a KVM switch so I can share my lcd display, keyboard and mouse. I H >tried using a Raritan 2-port switch but to no avail. Keyboard problems.? >Obviously geared to pc keyboards and not supporting the LK46W.  > G >Any suggestions on what switches do work would be greatly appreciated.   ? We use KVM switches from Rose Electronics. They work perfectly.    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 14:48:37 -0500. From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks)* Subject: Re: old EZ disks with latest VMS?, Message-ID: <lL0S2peM6XLr@cuebid.zko.hp.com>  2 (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: > (Rob Brooks) writes:   > K >> > I have a couple of 256-MB EZ disks.  I used to use them for page/swap  J >> > files (handy if the machine has only 48 MB RAM!) but they don't work K >> > anymore.  A single disk works fine, and I can build a shadow set, but  M >> > when the shadow copy is about 99% complete, the shadow set starts going  N >> > in and out of mount verification several times a second and the only way ' >> > out is to power-cycle the machine.  >>  O >> That sounds vaguely familiar, especially the part about the copy going a bit  >> weird at about 99% complete.  > J > Maybe from an old post of mine.  I believe I mentioned it here before.    @ 	I know that we (in VMS Engineering) saw the exact same symptomsI in the midst of some testing.  I'll need to wait until next week to check F with a few people.  I don't think we were using solid state disks when we saw the same symptoms.   R > DEC AXPVMS VMS732_SYS V7.0          Patch       Install     19-MAY-2005 01:55:35  G SYS V8.0 is the current SYS kit, but I do not think that's particularly  relevant here.  K > Thanks.  The fact that the disks work normally when not part of a shadow  H > set and the fact that the strange behaviour appeared after an upgrade " > strongly hints at a VMS problem.  G I'm rather sure the disks themselves are fine; I agree that it's almost  certainly a VMS problem.   --    L Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:03:55 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com & Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability- Message-ID: <87oe2ziv38.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   B "Alex Daniels" <alexNOSPAMHERETHANKSdaniels@themail.co.uk> writes:  C > I would expect LT&T (free download) would be able to show you the C > firmware versions, although I can't say I've used it with TLZ07 /  > TLZ09 drives.   @ > http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/ltt/index.html  G Thanks for that pointer. Pity the manual link drops off into 404-space.   9 BTW I have long considered DAT to be a write only system.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 14:21:47 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatabilityC Message-ID: <1135894907.061291.162310@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>    Alex Daniels wrote: 1 > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message ? > news:1135797647.025174.220450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... K > > What would I need to get a DLT drive? Wouldn't it be expensive? Do they K > > slide into the StorageWorks cabinet or would it be a separate table top 
 > > drive? > L > As you state you are currently using DDS-2 tapes you are getting 4GB (or 8K > compressed, if your lucky), of course DAT has been improved and DAT-72 is M > available which handles 72GB, I don't know if capacity per tape is an issue  > for you however. > K > There would be a number of things to consider before making the move, but K > for a greenfield VMS only site, I would personally chose DLT over DAT (if H > they were the only choices), if there was any significant amount to beI > backed up, and there were not any physical space limitations. Of course C > given other factors, other technologies would also be considered.  > K > Older DLT drives will fit into your "StorageWorks cabinet", I suspect you M > are meaning do they come in SBB's, you can certainly get various DLT drives M > that will slot into various BA35x shelves. Tabletop or library is an option  > too. > M > DLT's will retail from next to nothing on ebay (search for TZ87,TZ88, TZ89) L > for older variants, up to 100's of thousands for big walk-in auto loaders. > I > > I'll repeat my experiment with some more spanking brand new tapes and D > > post the results. But you make it sound like its too easy to get4 > > contamination that spreads and ruins everything! > 3 > Do clean them all before you put the new tape in.   B Experiment done. Yes, I cleaned them again as you insisted. And asE expected, it made zero difference. All tapes are unreadable except on & the drives on which they were written.   >  > Alex   ------------------------------    Date: 29 Dec 2005 14:25:12 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatabilityC Message-ID: <1135895112.406568.204480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Chris wrote:& > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote > >>F > >> I would expect LT&T (free download) would be able to show you the
 > >> firmware L > >> versions, although I can't say I've used it with TLZ07 / TLZ09  drives. > >>C > >> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/ltt/index.html  > >  > > I > > Unfortunately I am running VMS 6.2. The link above says that ltt only & > > supports VMS 7.3-1 and up. Bummer. > >  > M > Try the following to get your firmware rev (as well as quite a bit of other 
 > drive info)  > A > $ SCSI_INFO = = "$sys$common:[syshlp.unsupported]scsi_info.exe"  > $ 7 > $ SCSI_INFO mka500: (or whatever your tape device is)  > $  > A > Pretty sure that routine has been around since at least VMS 5.n     E It's not on my 6.1 systems but is on my 6.2. The test drives are on a  6.2. Here are the results:  3 TLZ07:         $!      Product Revision Level: 553B   3 Both TLZ09s:   $!      Product Revision Level: 03a5      So how does this help?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:27:28 -0000 @ From: "Alex Daniels" <alexNOSPAMHERETHANKSdaniels@themail.co.uk>& Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability6 Message-ID: <43b48d03$0$23281$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>  0 "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message = news:1135895112.406568.204480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... G > It's not on my 6.1 systems but is on my 6.2. The test drives are on a  > 6.2. Here are the results:  G Regardless of what version of VMS you connect these drives to, or even  M architecture, they will report the same, that information is coming from the   firmware on the drive, not VMS.   5 > TLZ07:         $!      Product Revision Level: 553B  > 5 > Both TLZ09s:   $!      Product Revision Level: 03a5  >  >  > So how does this help?  M 553B on the TLZ07 relates to firmware revision "A05". This is not the latest  I firmware for the TLZ07, although looking at the fixes since, they do not   seem relevant to your problem.  M 03A5 on the TLZ09 relates to firmware revision "A06", that is the latest for  K the TLZ09. As it's now established that these two are at the same firmware  7 version, I'd personally rule out firmware in this case.   L >> Also check the error log, if there is anything from there, please report  >> the >> SCSI error codes.  1 >I'll also gather some of these for my next post.   ! Do you have this information yet?    Alex     ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:39:17 -0500 ' From: "Yi Jiang" <y.jiang@sympatico.ca>  Subject: vms smtp problem 9 Message-ID: <5d0tf.2098$Yk2.303710@news20.bellglobal.com>   H I have a problem with smtp mail on openvms. It used to work. After some 4 changes on our main mail server, it stopped working. It is just keeping  E  %%%%%%%%%%%%                   29-DEC-2005 16:45:09.59  %%%%%%%%%%%% H %TCPIP-I-SMTP_SYMBRUN, symbiont is running the queue TCPIP$SMTP_NODE0_01! #smtp_symbiont\634:Hibernating... / #smtp_symbiont\639: woke up sf 1 ef 0 af 0 tf 0 ! #smtp_symbiont\634:Hibernating...   C after starting smtp service. It does not even try to send anything.   I I tried different setting on gatway, Alternate-Gateway and zone. Nothing  & changed. I can ping Alternate-Gateway.   What could be wrong with it?     Thanks for any help?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:05:03 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Re: vms smtp problem , Message-ID: <43B4A3B7.9E826104@teksavvy.com>   Yi Jiang wrote:  > I > I have a problem with smtp mail on openvms. It used to work. After some 6 > changes on our main mail server, it stopped working. > It is just keeping     $SHOW QUEUE TCPIP*/ALL  0 You might see some stopped SMTP queues in there.  A You can also increase the logging for the smtp symbiont. (renmove O comments in the $DEFINE commands below and set values to desired logging level.      $! TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LEVEL value 8 $!       Writes diagnostic information to the log file.  $!E $! 2      Enables logging of all information when the symbiont starts  up. I $!        The Next Open File message is printed, giving the name of each  E $!        control file before processing begins. All mail headers and  mail  E $!        recipients in a control file are logged after control file  ! $!        processing is complete.  $!G $! 3      Provides additional information about symbiont initialization  and 2 $!        activity during control file processing. $!C $! 5      Enables full symbiont diagnostics. For use only under the  advice  ( $!        of <company> customer support. $!& $!DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LEVEL 2 $! $!---------------  $! $! $!   TCPIP$SMTP_NOSEY G $!        Used with TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LEVEL to print the full subject RFC  G $!        headers information. If not defined, the header is logged as   $!        SUBJECT:<omitted>. $!" $!DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_NOSEY 1 $! $!---------------  $! $!  $!   TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LINE_NUMBERSC $!        Writes line numbers to SMTP logs. Includes the symbiont,  7 $!        receiver, and MAIL$PROTOCOL (DEBUG.TXT) logs.  $!. $!DEFINE/SYSTEM  TCPIP$SMTP_LOG_LINE_NUMBERS 1 $! $!---------------  $! $!   TCPIP$SMTP_SYMB_TRACEI $!        Logs all messages received from and transmitted to remote SMTP  E $!        servers. Used to trace the SMTP application layer protocol.  Any H $!        nonprinting characters or control characters that are sent or F $!        received are printed as \n, where n is the hexadecimal value of  D $!        the character. For example, command lines and replies are D $!        terminated with a <CR><LF> that appear in the log file as  $!        follows: $!8 $!               send buf=MAIL FROM:<jones@acme.com>\d\a? $!               recv buf=250 <jones@acme.com>... Sender OK\d\a 7 $!               In this message, \d\a is the <CR><LF>.  $!' $!DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPIP$SMTP_SYMB_TRACE 1    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:27:52 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 4 Subject: Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...- Message-ID: <87slsbiwrb.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   * "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com> writes:  I >      thanks for the heads-up.  SANS didn't have anything yet, but there G > is some buzz starting up elsewhere so its apparently a legit problem. 3 > At least I can warn the poor peecee users here...   C Bugtrak and now CERT etc have been full of this since late Wed when F someone tracked it to a Russian address registed to one M. Grobachov!! Yeah right....   Windows, just say NO.    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:53:54 GMT 6 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@earthlink.net>4 Subject: Re: Windoze ends year with a major cert ...> Message-ID: <mG_sf.40295$BZ5.29432@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>  C We use Windows PCs to manage graphics databases on VMS systems with J Pathworks.  My first step in securing these is to disable the TCPIP on the/ Windows box and load Pathworks 32 using DECnet.    --       Andy Bustamante  Remove the ASCII 95s for e-mail     & <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message= news:1135794344.750990.111530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... G > and there is no patch yet ... have fun this New Years all you windoze  > web server users ... > + > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28590  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:24:13 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com  Subject: Re: Zip question - Message-ID: <87wthniwxe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   , sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes:  G >    3.0f (beta) is perking right along, too, but I can't offer a date.   F Steve, does unzip/zip do something  that would cause highwater markingD to send the unziping off to lala land for a long time? Like unzipingG a Freeware kit, long pause before it starts working with the disk light  hard on.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:50:34 -0600 (CST) * From: sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) Subject: Re: Zip question 2 Message-ID: <05122915503433_2027A458@antinode.org>   From: prep@prep.synonet.com   H > Steve, does unzip/zip do something  that would cause highwater markingF > to send the unziping off to lala land for a long time? Like unzipingI > a Freeware kit, long pause before it starts working with the disk light 
 > hard on.  H    It did until I changed it.  UnZip 5.52 and Zip 2.31 (or later) should* be ok.  Which UnZip version are you using?  H    Reminder: A self-extracting (SFX) Zip archive can be expanded using a@ newer UnZip than the one built into the SFX archive.  Instead of6 "RUN sfx_archive.exe", use a normal UnZip command likeD "UNZIP sfx_archive.exe" (where "UNZIP" points to the program of yourE choice).  In my (limited) experience, self-extracting archives (patch E kits and the like) distributed by HP tend to use some old, lame UnZip  version.  For example:   ALP $ show symbol exec   EXEC*UTE == "$ SYS$DISK:[]'"  = ALP $ exec DEC-AXPVMS-JAVA142-V0104-24P2-1.PCSI_SFX_AXPEXE -v H UnZipSFX 5.40 of 28 November 1998, by Info-ZIP (Zip-Bugs@lists.wku.edu).P Valid options are -tfupcz; modifiers are -abjnoqCLMVX.  Quote uppercase options.  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  4    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-98183    382 South Warwick Street        sms@antinode-org     Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.726 ************************