1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 30 Dec 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 727       Contents: Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness  Re: Honeypot stats Re: Honeypot stats2 How to Determine the Preferred Channel for Cluster6 RE: How to Determine the Preferred Channel for Cluster Re: KVM Switches4 Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file8 Re: Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file8 Re: Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file Re: Test Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability  Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatability   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:44:35 -0700  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> $ Subject: Re: DUMP/OUTPUT strangeness7 Message-ID: <1135964196_2015@spool6-east.superfeed.net>   / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: 
 > If I do  >  >    $ DUMP *.HTML > % > then I get what I expect.  If I do   >  >    $ DUMP *.HTML/OUTPUT=X.X   4 Haven't tried it, but is /OUTPUT position dependent?# try putting it just behind the DUMP         $ DUMP/OUTPUT=X.X *.HTML   4 I've seen other programs that had position dependent arguemwnts.    > = > then X.X contains only the dump of the last file.  If I do   > " >    $ DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT X.X  >    $ DUMP *.HTML > > > then I get the same strange result.  This works as expected: >  >    $ PIPE *.HTML > X.X >  > What am I missing? >   Q ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:17:38 -0500 ) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>  Subject: Re: Honeypot stats 9 Message-ID: <zratf.2263$Yk2.331373@news20.bellglobal.com>   3 "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote in message  L news:FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738CD@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net...    	 [snip...]    >Neil -  > D >I agree that all OS's have a place. HP has a multi-platform supportA >strategy because it recognizes different Cust's will always have  >different requirements. > C >My concern is that all to often, platform decisions are being made F >without a full understanding of the real cost to the company i.e. the" >800lb gorilla operational impact. >   L It is done with 0% understanding of the real cost since 95% of the work has G been contracted out (see my comments below) and the Project Management  J personnel now running the show don't seem to have any technical aptitude. M Note that this is not the case of many technology oriented companies (see my  7 comment about Raytheon in previous post in this thread)   D >If a company has a production environment that requires OS securityI >patches be applied as soon as possible and that no patch will be applied G >unless QA'ed and certified against their production applications, then D >they need to understand what the QA/testing workload and associatedF >costs are going to be with that new platform. If the new platform hasG >monthly security patches, should not these costs (staffing, resources, 4 >lab time) be part of the overall decision criteria? > G >If the company is willing to roll-out monthly security patches without B >Application testing, then it becomes only the roll-out and rebootI >scheduling that has to be taken into consideration. However, these costs G >should also be part of the new platform decision process. Someone at a I >high mgmt level also has to be willing to take on the responsibility for F >a patch causing an application failure - especially those in the Open? >Source arena where application and base platform code is often  >extensively customized. > G >At the risk of raising the ire of some on this list, it is unfortunate H >that way to many application developers in some companies are put in ITG >decision making positions and do not concern themselves with security, B >backups, DR/BC, staff training, integration, monitoring software,D >viruses, trojans, worm type issues and hence these issues get sweptF >under the carpet when new platform or application decisions are beingF >made.  These developers all to often get caught up in the latest buzzF >words like SOA, J2EE, .Net, "Open" systems without fully appreciatingI >what the real impact these big changes are going to be on their company.  >  [...snip...]  J In my employer's company (like many others in the Western Hemisphere) the J IS/IT people have lost all the skills you and I think are necessary. They K have become nothing more than overpaid "process documenters" and "contract  L managers" and are no longer capable of telling the difference between SHI*T M and Shineolla. More than  95% of all the skilled IT work has been contracted  I out to other companies with their own dogmatic agendas and biases. It is  G these companies that are walking in the door with solutions based upon  & Windows, IIS and .NET instead of LAMP.  	 <opinion> I This all began in the downsizing craze started in the mid 1990s with the  M original objective of saving money. It has resulted in even more money being  J spent between "external contractors" and the "do-nothing IS/IT group" who . managed the creation of computer systems that:K 1. don't work properly (because they were built to an inadequate spec with   little or no wiggle room) F 2. can't talk to each other (because that wasn't in the original spec)L 3. lost source code (oops, the contractor had it but is now out of business)I 4. gypsy developers with no historical perspective (develop to spec then   jump to the next job) 
 </opinion>  G So I am of the opinion that anything of corporate importance should be  L running OpenVMS (1st choice) or some flavor of *NIX (2cd choice) because at J least your likelihood of a crash or infection will be almost non-existent.  M Large western companies need to get rid of these external hired-guns (who, I  J might remind you, all work for companies also needing to turn a quarterly 6 profit etc.) and go back to employing in-house talent.  	 <opinion> G In my employer's company it is the remaining in-house talent that work  M worked closely with DIGITAL for many years on PDP, VAX, and Alpha; employing  K RT-11, RSX-11M, and VMS; and who are now still pushing OpenVMS internally.  K We're only 5% and it is difficult to be heard but our low budget successes   are being noticed.
 </opinion>  
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  Ontario, Canada.9 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html     ------------------------------   Date: 30 Dec 2005 17:47:59 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com  Subject: Re: Honeypot stats , Message-ID: <dp3rsf01lfb@enews4.newsguy.com>  ( Neil Rieck <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote:L > My employer maintains quite a few systems running SPARC Solaris so I down J > loaded "Solaris x86" tonight from Sun and will install it on my ASUS to K > determine if it feels as perky as Fedora 4. (because some people who use  N > this OS all the time refer to it as Slow-air-is). But this OS has some very 1 > die-hard fans so their must be something to it.   L Put Linux under a high I/O load, then put Solaris under a high I/O load, and" see what the differences might be.   > #####   I > Everyone knows the original Macintosh had some scalability problems and F > they just couldn't expand their custom OS any further. So their onlyI > solution was to move to a variation of UNIX from Carnegie Mellon (which H > Apple calls Darwin) and then run Macintosh apps in separate windows asE > individual tasks.  The company that once bragged about not having a A > COMMAND LINE PROMPT now is bragging that it has one. Go Figure.   H Mac OS X has some serious problems, the biggest in my book is that it isK *SERIOUSLY* RAM hungry.  I recently went from 1.5GB of RAM to 3.5GB of RAM, B the difference in performance was pretty drastic, and I'm actaullyK considering going up to at least 5.5GB RAM.  I upgraded from 10.3.9 to 10.4 J when I only had 1.5GB of RAM, and increase in RAM requirements were so badL that my system (a Dual 2Ghz G5) became something of a slug.  I downgraded toI 10.3.9 when I lost my system disk, as it doesn't need as much RAM and the E only thing 10.4 got me was better font support in X-Windows, and 10.4 L doesn't support classic Appletalk.  Another problem seems to be NFS support,H has *anyone* gotten that to work with OpenVMS yet?  I thought I'd solvedJ that need with a Samba upgrade, until I tried to edit a VMS file via SambaM on my Mac last week (it was perl code, and I was wanting context colouring).  F When I went to save, it instead started deleting versions of the file!  H I still prefer Mac OS 9, I had my G4/450AGP system so that it was pretty much rock solid.   			Zane    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:24:25 -0500 " From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>; Subject: How to Determine the Preferred Channel for Cluster 0 Message-ID: <11ra9nq8h8c7d6e@corp.supernews.com>  J Hi, does anyone know if the 2001 version of this article has been updated L (easier to execute) for version 7.3-2 and higher? Perhaps an enhancement to K SDA ...?  Suppose one wanted to check it via a dcl procedure and make sure  L the SCA traffic had not failed over to another interface used for Decent or 1 IP where a system has multiple fast ethernets...     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:13:10 -0500 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> ? Subject: RE: How to Determine the Preferred Channel for Cluster R Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB7738D4@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----, > From: Hal Kuff [mailto:kuff@tessco.com]=20! > Sent: December 30, 2005 7:24 AM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com = > Subject: How to Determine the Preferred Channel for Cluster  >=20A > Hi, does anyone know if the 2001 version of this article has=20  > been updated=20 A > (easier to execute) for version 7.3-2 and higher? Perhaps an=20  > enhancement to=20 A > SDA ...?  Suppose one wanted to check it via a dcl procedure=20  > and make sure=20B > the SCA traffic had not failed over to another interface used=20 > for Decent or=205 > IP where a system has multiple fast ethernets...=20  >=20 >=20     Hal,  G There is a new cluster utility included as part of OpenVMS called SCACP F which provides information on current SCS circuits/channels as well asB the ability to set priorities on each interface that is capable of handling SCS traffic.    $ mcr scacp  SCACP> help=20   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477  kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  4 OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Dec 2005 08:35:24 -0800; From: "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" <vmsmangler@earthlink.net>  Subject: Re: KVM Switches C Message-ID: <1135960523.868227.307310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   ; Thanks to Christoph and Hans. I will check out both of your  suggestions.  
 Bill LaCounte  Coeur d'Alene, Idaho   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Dec 2005 07:42:31 -0800 From: wendzinski@yahoo.com= Subject: Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file C Message-ID: <1135957351.422265.109750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   > I'm looking for a quick DCL routine that will replace all nullB characters with blanks in a text file.  It's okay if the output is written to a second file.  Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:09:36 +0000 & From: Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk>A Subject: Re: Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file 1 Message-ID: <301220051809369490%nospam@yrl.co.uk>   C In article <1135957351.422265.109750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,  <wendzinski@yahoo.com> wrote:   @ > I'm looking for a quick DCL routine that will replace all nullD > characters with blanks in a text file.  It's okay if the output is > written to a second file.  > Thanks > E Is teco OK? Here is the interactive version: $ signs are escapes or '   depending on your teco defaults. edit/teco file.txt 0ua  <fn^eua$ $;> ex$$   --  1 To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ C PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810  E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:12:29 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> A Subject: Re: Replacing null characters with blanks in a text file , Message-ID: <43B5782F.593C9DDD@teksavvy.com>   wendzinski@yahoo.com wrote:  > @ > I'm looking for a quick DCL routine that will replace all null) > characters with blanks in a text file.      ' $editx/tpu/nodisplay/nowork/nojournal - 2     /section=sys$library:EVE$SECTION.TPU$SECTION -#     /command=sys$input   myfile.txt    position(mybuffer);   eve$$x_global_replace := TRUE; *  position (beginning_of (current_buffer));&  status := eve_replace(ASCII(0), " ");!  write_file(mybuffer,final_file);   exit; $write sys$output "Done"   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:03:55 +1100 1 From: "Paul Nankervis" <paulnank@netspace.net.au>  Subject: Re: Test 0 Message-ID: <dp2ple$1h8h$1@otis.netspace.net.au>  7 "Shawn M." <shawnm1964@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message  = news:1135701249.753738.129350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... - > Just seeing if posts are making it through.  >  > Shawn  >      Likewise   Paul   paulnank@netspace.net.au   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Dec 2005 07:05:30 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatabilityC Message-ID: <1135955130.735463.152190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    Alex Daniels wrote: 1 > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message ? > news:1135827811.340978.109090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... B > > So with DLT drives I shouldn't have all these problems, right? > M > My personal experience is that DLT is a better technology than DAT in terms M > of relaibilty, most people I have talked on the subject, share that opinon.  > L > However, neither DLT or any of the large range of tape technologies I have# > used, are free from all problems.  > 	 > >I also K > > have problems that tapes are sometimes only readable to a certain point F > > after which parity errors bring things to a dead halt. And this isD > > definitely drive-dependent. Sometimes one drive can get a littleF > > farther on a "bad tape" than another drive can. Very frutstrating.7 > > That's why I wrote "I Lost It with the Tape Drive".  > > > Is that a track? I am not familar with it, is it on I-Tunes?     No. No.    See    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:9FrH0ayfh90J:www.decus.de:8080/common/vms/fun/tapedrive.htmlx+%22i+lost+it+with+the+tape+drive%22&hl=en  G If you get asked for a password, try "cancel", repeatedly if necessary.   ; Or you can look at my original post in this very newsgroup:    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/browse_frm/thread/5e44739d438336d4/d40b56eabd882645?lnk=st&q=%22i+lost+it+with+the+tape+drive%22&rnum=1&hl=en#d40b56eabd882645   E (Apologies if url's wrap badly. You can just Google the title but you ? need to click the cache link for the Web page to get around the  password-needed problem.  D Actually, I may rewrite it slightly. I'm not sure I like the currentG ordering of the variations "lost it in" vs. "lost it with" vs. "knew it C was" vs. "heard it in" that are sprinkled in the same places within > each verse/chorus. Friendly constructive criticism is welcome.  G > >> In the vast majority of cases I'm against doing backups to non-VMS 
 > >> systems, I > >> you should consider this move very carefully, think about bare metal A > >> restores, and if your NetBackup server isn't in a multi-site  > >> configuration, L > >> the time it takes for it to be restored itself first in a disaster, etc	 > >> etc.  > > L > > My systems are highly redundant. Each desk has its own set of systems... > <SNIP> > I > My point is about the redundancy of the UNIX Netbackup server, not your K > systems. If the UNIX box has your backed up data and you need it, and you M > have SLAs you need to deliver on, and the UNIX box is down, hacked, virused L > infected, it's site blown up etc, is that ok for you? The security of yourM > systems, if it has your sysuaf is now entrusted to the security of the UNIX H > box. If it's at one site only, and you need an urgent restore, then it4 > doesn't matter if your boxes are redundant or not. > K > Hence, why I said you need to establish these facts, during the course of K > making any decision to move your backups to a non-VMS box, that you don't  > have control over.    D I'll keep this in mind. But making "write-probably read-maybe" tapesC also has its problems. I'll check with my hardware vendor about DLT  drives.      [...]    AEF    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Dec 2005 08:03:26 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com>& Subject: Re: TLZ07/TLZ09 compatabilityB Message-ID: <1135958606.683607.17190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   Alex Daniels wrote: 1 > "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message ? > news:1135895112.406568.204480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... I > > It's not on my 6.1 systems but is on my 6.2. The test drives are on a  > > 6.2. Here are the results: > H > Regardless of what version of VMS you connect these drives to, or evenN > architecture, they will report the same, that information is coming from the! > firmware on the drive, not VMS.  > 7 > > TLZ07:         $!      Product Revision Level: 553B  > > 7 > > Both TLZ09s:   $!      Product Revision Level: 03a5  > >  > >  > > So how does this help? > N > 553B on the TLZ07 relates to firmware revision "A05". This is not the latest  D So 553B is "secret code" for A05. Where did you get your secret code converter chart? Can I get one?   J > firmware for the TLZ07, although looking at the fixes since, they do not  > seem relevant to your problem.  3 Where can I get this list of fixes? (and for the 9)    > N > 03A5 on the TLZ09 relates to firmware revision "A06", that is the latest forL > the TLZ09. As it's now established that these two are at the same firmware9 > version, I'd personally rule out firmware in this case.    OK.    > M > >> Also check the error log, if there is anything from there, please report  > >> the > >> SCSI error codes. > 3 > >I'll also gather some of these for my next post.  > # > Do you have this information yet?      Here some are excerpts:   3                                        MEDIUM ERROR C                                        SEQUENTIAL POSITIONING ERROR   3                                        MEDIUM ERROR D                                        CANNOT READ MEDIUM - INCOMPAT FORMAT  2                                        BLANK CHECK;                                        END OF DATA DETECTED     C If you like, I can post the entire ANAL/ERROR output, but it is 559 8 lines before wrapping, and Google Groups *will* wrap it.  E Or, I can post it via VMS SHARE, but that results in a five-part file % giving a total of approx. 1200 lines.   E Sorry, I don't have a Web page I can post to. I can try to set one up  tonight.   Let me know.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.727 ************************