0 INFO-VAX	Fri, 04 Feb 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 70      Contents:! Re: Curly soon to be out of a job ' Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800 ' Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800 ' Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800 , DECW$SESSION Limits... won't start new tasks0 Re: DECW$SESSION Limits... won't start new tasks8 Re: disposition of largest private DEC collection in USA Re: DVE and maximum file count Re: Full page color HP ad for # Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion # Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion # Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion # Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion # Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion  Re: Intrusion attempts Re: Intrusion attempts# Re: Is there a FAQ for this group ? ( Re: Loads of DS10L 466 in stock for $250 Motif documentation 5 Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM 5 Re: There goes the volume market. Remind me again....   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:33:05 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> * Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job, Message-ID: <f8qdnQp8cchcPp7fRVn-hA@igs.net>   JF Mezei wrote: 1 > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4234027.stm  > G > BBC reports that the Wall Street journal reports that Qwest will make  > a bid for MCI. > H > Where will Curly go ?  Are there any companies left that are in such aD > bad shape that nobody wants to take on the job of CEO, leaving theD > door opened for the accountant to get another job of scuttling and > then selling the company ?    ! We all know what will happen.....   J carly(tm) will get forced out and curly will be brought back in to replaceK her. He did such a great job during the months post-merger that HP gave him J how many millions in bonuses before he left? I'm sure they will want a manJ of his obvious expertise and keen sense of the market to take the reins at HP.    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:31:26 +0000 (UTC)< From: gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann)0 Subject: Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800) Message-ID: <ctvitu$jqm$1@news.BelWue.DE>   Z In article <4202a85a$1_1@127.0.0.1>, "Roy Osborn" <RoyAOsborn_nospam_@hotmail.com> writes:F >I am trying to get DECnet up on a AlphaServer 800 running ancient VMS >6.2-1H3 with SRM v.5.6-16 >  >I have installed ECO's: >    ALPCPU0d05_062  >    ALPCPU1A02_062  >    ALPCPU1B03_062 L >    but not ALPLAN05_062 as it requires TCP/IP 4.2, which I don't have yet. > ) >Remote nodes have been defined with NCP.  > G >Both DE500 NICs were configured from the SRM with "set ewa0_mod fast".   M There are variantes of the DE500 (e.g. DE500-XA, DE500-BA,...) and I couldn't C get a DE500-XA to communicate with a 3Com 4400 at 100M/full-duplex.   K >I am trying to talk to a couple of MicroVax's (VMS 5.2 and 5.4) which have 6 >no trouble communicating with each other over DECnet. > = >On the DE500, 100 light glows yellow, link light is not lit.   N This looks bad. Try to configure the DE500 from the SRM-console at half-duplex! and perhapt 10M at the beginning.   L >Connected to a LinkSys 10/100 hub along with one of the MicroVax's (running2 >at 10 MBit through a "Ethernet Media Converter").   You should use a switch here.   L >There is another DE500 in the unit that will eventually be used for TCP/IP,0 >100M light glows yellow, link light glow green.   This looks better.  I >Someone said you must have TCP/IP software installed to use the DE500 on + >DECnet, but that doesn't seem right to me.   6 Correct, you don't need TCP/IP in order to use DECnet.  % >Any ideas on what to check out next?   K See above. Before you have a green link LED, there is nothing you can do in  OpenVMS.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    --  E  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452   ImmunbiologieI  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de   D-79011  Freiburg, Germany 9                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:53:14 -06003 From: "Roy Osborn" <RoyAOsborn_nospam_@hotmail.com> 0 Subject: Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800$ Message-ID: <42039b7f$1_2@127.0.0.1>  2 Thanks for all the help - it's up and running now!  D It ended up being a bad NIC (DE500-BA) along with some other things:  L 1) Yanked bad NIC out of the server. I was thinking you might need two cards7 to run DECnet and TCP/IP but they run fine on one card.   G 2) Was able to use auto-negotiate instead of using a fixed setting (set  ewa0_mode auto-negotiate).  " 3) Used a switch instead of a hub.  G I am very impressed with the expertise in this newsgroup - you guys are  great!   Roy     > "Roy Osborn" <RoyAOsborn_nospam_@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4202a85a$1_1@127.0.0.1...G > I am trying to get DECnet up on a AlphaServer 800 running ancient VMS  > 6.2-1H3 with SRM v.5.6-16  >  > I have installed ECO's:  >     ALPCPU0d05_062 >     ALPCPU1A02_062 >     ALPCPU1B03_062H >     but not ALPLAN05_062 as it requires TCP/IP 4.2, which I don't have yet. > * > Remote nodes have been defined with NCP. > H > Both DE500 NICs were configured from the SRM with "set ewa0_mod fast". > L > I am trying to talk to a couple of MicroVax's (VMS 5.2 and 5.4) which have7 > no trouble communicating with each other over DECnet.  > > > On the DE500, 100 light glows yellow, link light is not lit. > D > Connected to a LinkSys 10/100 hub along with one of the MicroVax's (running3 > at 10 MBit through a "Ethernet Media Converter").  > E > There is another DE500 in the unit that will eventually be used for  TCP/IP, 1 > 100M light glows yellow, link light glow green.  > J > Someone said you must have TCP/IP software installed to use the DE500 on, > DECnet, but that doesn't seem right to me.      O ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- S http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups K ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:08:54 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) 0 Subject: Re: DE500, Decnet, VMS 6.2 on Alpha 800. Message-ID: <cu06mm$i43$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   gartmann@non.immunbio.mpg.de.sens (Christoph Gartmann) writes in article <ctvitu$jqm$1@news.BelWue.DE> dated Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:31:26 +0000 (UTC):[ >In article <4202a85a$1_1@127.0.0.1>, "Roy Osborn" <RoyAOsborn_nospam_@hotmail.com> writes: G >>I am trying to get DECnet up on a AlphaServer 800 running ancient VMS  >>6.2-1H3 with SRM v.5.6-16  >>H >>Both DE500 NICs were configured from the SRM with "set ewa0_mod fast". > N >There are variantes of the DE500 (e.g. DE500-XA, DE500-BA,...) and I couldn'tD >get a DE500-XA to communicate with a 3Com 4400 at 100M/full-duplex.  G I've been told that you can't mix -BA and -XA in the same machine.  You  aren't doing that, are you?   = Suggestion:  Go through the other available ethernet modes.   = "set ewa0_mode xxx" to see a list of choices.  Check the link  light after each change.  0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:35:42 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> 5 Subject: DECW$SESSION Limits... won't start new tasks B Message-ID: <1107512647.a9880cc2c044d596389e241d0e3211fa@teranews>  H My DECwindows seession (VAX VMS 7.2) seems to have gotten to some limit.  H If I try to start any tasks that are "subprocess" instead of "detached",G the stay "pending" in the "work in progress" display. So I assume there E is some resource exhaustion that prevents more subpocesses from being F created. (menu items defined as detached jobs still work fine, as does6 fileview (which runs inside the DECW$SESSION process).  G SHOW PROC DECW$SESSION/sub reveals there are no subprocesses left. (the A VUE* ones would appear as subprocesses of DECW$SESSION, right ?).   E If I do a /CONT for the DECW$SESSION, it shows some 2400 pages in the D working set, but a whopping 69000  virtual pages.  The account has aE pgfilquo of 60k pages. And I think I have virtualpages set to 700000.   F So, I assume I did something with FILEVIEW which consumed much memory,B and even though that memory isn't needed anymroe, DECW$SESSION has released it.    D However, something is not quite clear:  how do the various quotas inB SYSUAF apply to process versus jobs ?  There are SYSUAF parametersC clearly for job (JTQUOTA, maxjobs etc), but the rest, lisk wsquota, & pgflquota seem to be process specific.  G And finally, is there a trick to get decw$session to relinquish its now D unnnecessary resources, or must I absolutely log off and log back in1 again ? (this session ahs been up for 86 days :-)    ------------------------------  * Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:11:48 +0000 (UTC)- From: klewis@OMEGA.MITRE.ORG (Keith A. Lewis) 9 Subject: Re: DECW$SESSION Limits... won't start new tasks . Message-ID: <cu0ack$kfi$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes in article <1107512647.a9880cc2c044d596389e241d0e3211fa@teranews> dated Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:35:42 -0500: I >My DECwindows seession (VAX VMS 7.2) seems to have gotten to some limit.  > I >If I try to start any tasks that are "subprocess" instead of "detached", H >the stay "pending" in the "work in progress" display. So I assume thereF >is some resource exhaustion that prevents more subpocesses from beingG >created. (menu items defined as detached jobs still work fine, as does 7 >fileview (which runs inside the DECW$SESSION process).  > H >SHOW PROC DECW$SESSION/sub reveals there are no subprocesses left. (theB >VUE* ones would appear as subprocesses of DECW$SESSION, right ?).  I To see if this is a VMS quota issue, do a "SHOW PROC DECW$SESSION/QUOTA", F and compare that with, say, a telnet session.  (The reason you have toA compare instead of just looking for 0's is that sometimes 0 means 1 "uncontrained" and sometimes it means "used up".)   F >If I do a /CONT for the DECW$SESSION, it shows some 2400 pages in theE >working set, but a whopping 69000  virtual pages.  The account has a F >pgfilquo of 60k pages. And I think I have virtualpages set to 700000. > G >So, I assume I did something with FILEVIEW which consumed much memory, C >and even though that memory isn't needed anymroe, DECW$SESSION has 
 >released it.   E >However, something is not quite clear:  how do the various quotas in C >SYSUAF apply to process versus jobs ?  There are SYSUAF parameters D >clearly for job (JTQUOTA, maxjobs etc), but the rest, lisk wsquota,' >pgflquota seem to be process specific.    System minimum process quotas,   $ MC SYSGEN SHOW PQL_M  E To see the system default process quotas used for detached processes,  $ MC SYSGEN SHOW PQL_D  M Anything else will use the values in SYSUAF, provided it's above the minimum.   H >And finally, is there a trick to get decw$session to relinquish its nowE >unnnecessary resources, or must I absolutely log off and log back in 2 >again ? (this session ahs been up for 86 days :-)  J You can also try starting a new session manager (IIRC you can do that fromL the session manager or from a detached terminal window, batch job, etc.) andI then quitting the old one.  (IIRC you must use "quit" because "exit" logs 	 you out.)   I Sorry about the faint recollections; it's been years since I used the old  DECwindows.   0 --Keith Lewis              klewis {at} mitre.org> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:36:23 -0500 & From: Jilly <jilly@clarityconnect.com>A Subject: Re: disposition of largest private DEC collection in USA B Message-ID: <1107538435.ec6b4b9c0e87c97de8d92a0cbfdb2a0a@teranews>   Dan O'Reilly wrote:    > L > Actually, it was just "CXO" at the time when I started; there was just theI > 1 building.  If I remember correctly, "CSO" was, I think, in Cincinnati  > or someplace similar.  >   = From my 1993 Digital Telephone Directory, CSO is Columbus, OH        --  B Jilly - Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley, Waverly, NYF       - jilly@stny.rr.com                http://home.stny.rr.com/jillyE       - mark.jilson@hp.com               http://www.hp.com/go/openvms ;       - http://www.jilsonracing.com      Go Fast, Turn Left C       - http://www.chemungspeedrome.com  Door Handle to Door Handle    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Feb 2005 07:17:43 -0800 $ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org>' Subject: Re: DVE and maximum file count C Message-ID: <1107530263.459752.254980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Ed Wilts wrote: E > With the welcome introduction of dynamic volume expansion, I expect E > that eventually we'll find ourselves with enough disk space but not G > enough file headers.  What are the current plans, if any, on allowing D > customers to increase this without a volume re-init?  Is this even? > technically do-able?  Even an option like mounting the volume 	 privately @ > for a few minutes would be acceptable (like enabling DVE on an existing
 > volume). > 	 > Thanks,  >    .../Ed    Anybody?  Rob?  E I've already into a case where I can't initialize a volume to account > for a large number of files because the volume isn't currently@ physically large enough.  This defeats the purpose of DVE in the future.      .../Ed   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Feb 2005 13:56:10 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)& Subject: Re: Full page color HP ad for, Message-ID: <36hd7pF52kpucU3@individual.net>  + In article <4202DD53.58C33606@comcast.net>, 5 	David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  > John Smith wrote:  >>  / >> .....Itanic servers in my local paper today.  >>  O >> No mention of *any* operating system. Guess that means I can install Solaris 	 >> on it.  > I > I do lurk on alt.solaris.x86. I've not seen mention of it, but I skip a  > lot of stuff...  >   A Currently, Solaris runs on Sparc and x86.  I would not expect Sun > to port it to anything else.  But maybe when (if?) it actually becomes opensource!!   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 10:50:28 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG, Subject: Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion0 Message-ID: <00A3EE05.E50CC7B2@SendSpamHere.ORG>   In article <rdeininger-0302052334440001@user-uinj40i.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspringdot.com (Robert Deininger) writes:: >In article <00A3ED9C.6C7AC514@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman-  >@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > K >>In article <E55808CC8DD080418744E208A29F6780DFAFA4@KC-MAIL2.kc.umkc.edu>, , >"Grant, James B." <GrantJ@umkc.edu> writes:% >>>kenneth.randel @verizon.net wrote:  >>> % >>>>VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: J >>>>> I have one of the rx2600 servers from the Itanium Developer's Forum. >>> J >>>>> This unit arrived in the "Jersey Wall" floor pedestal configuration.K >>>>> I need to rack mount this system.  Has anyone here done the same and, K >>>>> if so, what is the part number.  I have found a part number searching K >>>>> HP's site (MFG#: A9911A) which says it is "HP Integrity rx2600 server K >>>>> rack bezel upgrade.  As luck would have it, there's no picture and no J >>>>> specification.  It seems to me to only be the face plate and it is aI >>>>> tad pricey for just that if it does not contain all of the mounting % >>>>> hardware to stuff it in a rack.  >>>>>  >>> C >>>>Looks to me like you want AB376A for the actual rack-mount kit.  >>> A >>>>This is called out on page 5 of the QuickSpecs and also here: K >>>>http://www.hp.com/products1/servers/integrity/entry_level/rx2620/suppli 
 >>>es.html >>> F >>>>A9911A looks to me like just the front plastic cover bezel. If I'mI >>>>right, then there are two parts for it; A7231-04055 which is the left I >>>>bezel & latch, A7231-04053, which is the right side.  I got this from K >>>>the rx2600 I have, but it was ordered with the pedastal conversion kit.  >>> D >>>The A6939B is the complete kit for a 19" rack and includes rails,- >>>powercords, swing arm and dark grey bezel.  >>> A >>>The A6939A is the same except the bezel is light grey (putty).  >>>  >>>Jim Grant >>>VMS and UNIX Sysadmin' >>>University of Missouri - Kansas City  >>- >>Putting in the A6939A part number returned:  >>M >>A6939A, A6939AR, and A6939AZR... all 3 are listed "Part No longer supplied" * >>A6939B is also "Part No longer supplied" >  > D >A6939B sounds like the right part.  The other one was the old colorG >scheme; I'm not surprised if it isn't sold any more.  A6939B should be H >orderable.  I don't know what you are using to check availability (yourJ >problem report was rather incomplete in this respect), but the rack mountF >kits are still available; the group I work in buys them all the time.   Hi Rob,   " http://h20141.www2.hp.com/hpparts/   Will you buy one for me? :)    --  < http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security=                       solutions that others only claim to be.  --  , Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:M   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software product!   --  K VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Feb 2005 05:23:42 -0800  From: shoppa@trailing-edge.com, Subject: Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversionC Message-ID: <1107523422.446410.279110@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: G > Wouldn't you know it.  This link says that the part I need is AB376A: E > HP Itanium rx2600 Field Rack Kit.  I went to the HP Parts Store and  it, > says that this part is no longer supplied.  B The classic DECism was, when trying to buy a BA123 caster, getting@ the response: "Individual part not available.  Order next higher subassembly: BA123."  . "DIGITAL HAS IT NOW"... and you can't have it!  G > Itanium *has* sunk!  Talk about riding on a dead horse.  What a waste    > of my $2K    Tim.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:00:14 -0500? From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <david@hpaq.net> , Subject: Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion8 Message-ID: <d0LMd.36306$BQ2.814@bignews6.bellsouth.net>  = FYI I asked our source at HP and even they can't get them !!! * That makes me more than a little concerned  ? Does it seem to you guys that HP doesn't want to sell anything?              --  0 ________________________________________________ David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Mobile: 912 447 6622 X251  Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com  Web: http://www.islandco.com0 ________________________________________________, <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A3ED76.02EAF52C@SendSpamHere.ORG...F > I have one of the rx2600 servers from the Itanium Developer's Forum.F > This unit arrived in the "Jersey Wall" floor pedestal configuration.G > I need to rack mount this system.  Has anyone here done the same and, G > if so, what is the part number.  I have found a part number searching G > HP's site (MFG#: A9911A) which says it is "HP Integrity rx2600 server G > rack bezel upgrade.  As luck would have it, there's no picture and no F > specification.  It seems to me to only be the face plate and it is aE > tad pricey for just that if it does not contain all of the mounting ! > hardware to stuff it in a rack.  > G > I have sent several emails about this to the folks that organized the G > IDF but have not received a single response.  I have a lot of Itanium 1 > here that I can't use if I can't rack mount it.  > F > Perhaps some of the VMS engineering folk here know who to ask within# > HP.  All I need is the part #(s).  >  > --  > > http://www.ProvN.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system security? >                       solutions that others only claim to be.  > --  . > Cyber-Terrorism (si'-ber tayr'-or-iz-em) n.:E >   The release of, the sale of, or the use of any Micro$oft software  product! > --  2 > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM   ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:24:22 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> , Subject: Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion, Message-ID: <x-udnQOyQN6aFZ7fRVn-rQ@igs.net>  - David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote: ? > FYI I asked our source at HP and even they can't get them !!! , > That makes me more than a little concerned > A > Does it seem to you guys that HP doesn't want to sell anything?     # ......unless it uses ink cartridges    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:41:57 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>, Subject: Re: HP rx2600 rack mount conversion, Message-ID: <36hqf9F4vp32uU1@individual.net>   Larry Kilgallen wrote:= > In article <36f8dnF4tv2bhU1@individual.net>, "Peter Weaver" 1 > <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> writes: # >> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  >>> ... A >>> IDF but have not received a single response.  I have a lot of ; >>> Itanium here that I can't use if I can't rack mount it.  >>> ...  >>B >> While searching for information about the RX2600 I noticed thatE >> there is a manual named hp workstations zx6000, hp server rx2600 - : >> tower to rack and rack to tower system conversion guide >> (a7857-90017) on the page >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManual&locale=en_US&docIndexId=179911&taskId=101&prodTypeId=15351&prodSeriesId=447335  > C > I tried to read it but got a "page not found" looking for the PDF  > file.   9 Must have been a temporary glitch, it just worked for me.    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:25:42 -0500* From: "Syltrem" <syltremzulu@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: Intrusion attempts 4 Message-ID: <ksMMd.2785$df.105266@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>  C "Ken Fairfield" <my.full.name@intel.com> a crit dans le message de % news:ctu5pb$c4s$1@news01.intel.com...  > ? > As John Briggs pointed out, there are security issues if that + > information were sent in a OPCOM message.  > > > On the other hand, the information you seek is available viaE > ACCOUNTING (which is where I find it), and mostly via ANALYZE/AUDIT C > (which I haven't tried, so can't guarantee, but would expect it's 	 > there).  >     H After 4 failed login attempts with 3 different usernames, and one ^Z (no username entered):  L In accounting I do not see the usernames used, and only one record with this message:! %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user ? There is another entry with this message (triggered by the ^Z): . %LOGIN-F-CMDINPUT, error reading command input  6 OTOH, the audit does not show anything for some reason. I have the auditing enabled for loginfailures:- System security audits currently enabled for: 
   Logfailure: < batch,dialup,local,remote,network,subprocess,detached,serverA but $  anal/aud/ev=breakin sys$manager:SECURITY.AUDIT$JOURNAL/sin  returns nothing.   Am I doing something wrong?    --   Syltrem    OpenVMS 7.3-1 + Oracle 8.1.7.4H http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site, en franais)% ---zulu is not in my email address---    >      -Ken  > --  8 > I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me... >  > Ken Fairfield # > D1C Automation VMS System Support $ > who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield > where: intel dot com >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:33:32 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Intrusion attempts , Message-ID: <36htg0F52uqiaU1@individual.net>   Syltrem wrote: >...F > After 4 failed login attempts with 3 different usernames, and one ^Z > (no username entered): > D > In accounting I do not see the usernames used, and only one record > with this message:# > %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user A > There is another entry with this message (triggered by the ^Z): 0 > %LOGIN-F-CMDINPUT, error reading command input > 8 > OTOH, the audit does not show anything for some reason0 > I have the auditing enabled for loginfailures:/ > System security audits currently enabled for:  >   Logfailure: > > batch,dialup,local,remote,network,subprocess,detached,serverC > but $  anal/aud/ev=breakin sys$manager:SECURITY.AUDIT$JOURNAL/sin  > returns nothing. > ...   * Take a look at your SYSGEN LGI parameters,   SYSGEN> SHOW /LGI   G and see how many retries are permitted before the attempt is considered G a breakin. I would guess that you are not yet hitting the breakin limit ? so ANA/AUD/EV=LOGFAIL is what you need rather than /EV=BREAKIN.   H On the system I just tried (VAX/VMS 7.1) LGI_BRK_LIM is 5, so my 6th try@ showed up in the audit record as a breakin attempt with both theC username and password showing. I do not have Auditing turned on for F local login failures, but if I did the 1st to 5th attempts should have shown up with no password.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------   Date: 4 Feb 2005 13:53:14 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon), Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ for this group ?, Message-ID: <36hd2aF52kpucU2@individual.net>  + In article <4202DCEF.6BE74573@comcast.net>, 5 	David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes:  > Hoff Hoffman wrote: 	 >> [snip] A >>   Isn't there a prescription cream for stalwart removal?   :-)  > 0 > Is a stalwart much different from a wall-wart? >   . Is a wall-wart much different from a wal-mart?   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:35:59 +0000 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>1 Subject: Re: Loads of DS10L 466 in stock for $250 4 Message-ID: <cu018f$fdu$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk>  - David Turner, Island Computers US Corp wrote:   / > We still have loads in stock in the US and UK   > Shipping within the USA is $35 > Shipping within EU is $60   " Would you like to sell kit to me ?E I've been emailing sales at hpaq dot net since before Christmas, and  E I've emailed you a couple of times too. I've got no response - don't  6 know whether you've blacklisted me or spamfiltered me.  F Could do with a quote for a DR box to cover my DS20E, connected to an  RA3000.   ) Email me please at ccagroup dot co dot uk    Thanks,  Chris    > What you get:  >  > - > Alphaserver DS10L 466Mhz EV6 with 2MB Cache  > Dual 10/100 Ethernet On Board 4 > Dual IDE Controller and Floppy controller on board > USB (obviously not much use)$ > Dual Serial Ports (one as console) > Parallel Port > > Multivoltage power supply (100~250V 50/60Hz Worldwide power) > 1 PCI Slot 64 Bit-" > Standard Keyboard PS/2 Connector > Standard Mouse PS/2 Connector K > 2 Useable Memory Slots (actually has 4 slots but they are unusable due to # > horzontal installation of memory)  >  > No Memory or disk is included / > There are no built in graphics on this system  > 2 > Add 256MB memory for only $99  (Compaq original)1 > Add 512MB Memory for only $179 (Island Branded) 1 > Add 1GB Memory foro only $389  (Island Branded) ) > Add a Single Rackmount Kit for only $40 ( > Add a Quad Rackmount Kit for only  $55: > Add an UW SCSI Controller VMS Compatible for only $50 ORD > Add a Permedia 2 Graphics Card (same as ELSA GLoria) for only $1297 > Add a Permedia 2 Graphics Combo U2 SCSI Card for $899  >  > Licenses:  > ! > OpenVMS Base NEW for DS10L $525 G > OpenVMS Base and EIP for only $1399 (special only with these systems) " > Tru64 Unix Base License for $299 >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 05:07:05 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>  Subject: Motif documentationB Message-ID: <1107510933.d520dec1c1865df0425a1bbb00a6eb3c@teranews>  H I used to rely on some external sites for Motif reference documentation.H Unfortunatly, all the good ones seem to have disapeared in recent weeks.H Fortunately, I had managed to save one site at one point in time and wasD able to fix it up to work under VMS ( all hrefs needed be changed to3 urls where file names had only 1 dot for instance).   G Ideally, I'd prefer this in booreader format, but it may take some time D to be able to convert this into a usable bookreader format with that many clickable items etc.   - If you want to give it a test drive it is at:   ' http://www.vaxination.ca/motif/TOC.html   D If you find links that do not work, let me know. (there are over 400 files !)  H Next time I make changes to it, I'll fix bad references, change the bodyD colours etc). Once done, I'll probably offer a ZIPped version so you% could have it locally on your system.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 07:53:30 -0600 ( From: brandon@dalsemi.com (John Brandon)> Subject: Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM1 Message-ID: <05020407533068@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>    David J DachteraF > I'd be curious to know what you would do differently in either case.  $ Kind of looks like I have no choice.  O I am trying to avoid having to create procedures outside of the normal shutdown I process.  That way any upgrades or forgetting to use the proper procedure < (say as in an emergency reboot) will not affect the process.  j As suggested by John Laird - "Edit it and pass as many of the Pn parameters as you need to syshutdwn.com ?I It's only a single line change and if you forget to check after your next L upgrade (if/when shutdown.com may change), you could have your site-specificF procedure write out something if any or all parameters are found to be, missing." Will probably be my only solution.       John "REBOOT" Brandon  VMS Systems Administrator * firstname.lastname.spam.me.not@dalsemi.com   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Feb 2005 13:50:44 GMT ( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)> Subject: Re: There goes the volume market. Remind me again...., Message-ID: <36hctkF52kpucU1@individual.net>  = In article <9-6dnUL6K-obX5_fRVn-gw@metrocastcablevision.com>, + 	Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  > John Smith wrote:  >  > ...  > O >> But I wouldn't put it past HP apologists who have seen the link published in M >> this thread to run back to the HP Ministry of Propaganda and point out the < >> existence of the offending document elsewhere on the web. > F > Last I knew there were a couple of other accessible copies floating J > around - one at Raytheon, for example (just checked:  it's still there).  , Add one more.  I just archived it here, too.? It's too important to risk letting it just disappear.  That has ! happened to way too much already.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.070 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  getting at, but it doesn't really totally make
> > > sense. Some random car accident isn't nationwide news because the
> general
> > > population puts less worth on those people's lives...its because who
> cares
> > > about a car accident?
> >
> > To clear up your point for you:
> >
> > Car accidents happen all the time; they are not news.
> > Shuttle explosions happen infrequently--the last one I know of was in 1986
> (at
> > least the last major one).  So when they do happen, they are unusual,