0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 07 Feb 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 75      Contents: Anyone want a free iPod? Re: Anyone want a free iPod?! Re: Curly soon to be out of a job ! Re: Curly soon to be out of a job ! Re: Curly soon to be out of a job ! Re: Curly soon to be out of a job  Re: DVE and maximum file count2 Re: FBI gets hacked - should have been on OpenVMS! Re: Lexical to get ACL Re: Lexical to get ACL( Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS( Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS  One Small step one infinite leap5 Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM  Setting up different ftp users" Re: Setting up different ftp users  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 15:14:12 -0800 ( From: "Free iPod!" <parkcaleb@gmail.com>! Subject: Anyone want a free iPod? C Message-ID: <1107731652.067526.232370@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   D Go to this website to help me get a free iPod and to get one of yourB own.  All you need to do is sign up, try an offer from a reputable= company (Blockbuster, etc.), and get 5 others to do the same. $ http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=14360526  D It doesn't actually cost you any money because you can simply cancelF the offer before they charge you anything.  However, if, say, you wantE to actually complete the offer from Blockbuster, then you're set that  way too.  < Check this review by the BBC if you are still not convinced.; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3683524.stm   < The site is even listed on the Better Business Bureau (BBB).; http://www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?national=Y&compid=1035561    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 18:01:23 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) % Subject: Re: Anyone want a free iPod? 3 Message-ID: <IB9lt0m$3ytC@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <1107731652.067526.232370@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Free iPod!" <parkcaleb@gmail.com> writes:  > > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com                       ------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 13:40:45 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) * Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job3 Message-ID: <i9WGFV42zEEG@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <f-WdnfsHEfh77pjfRVn-3w@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: > Rob Young wrote:k >> In article <ZYCdnWemnaTOiJjfRVn-oQ@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  >>   >>>Rob Young wrote:  >>> C >>>>	That paper has been around for quite some time.  It is a great @ >>>>	paper.  But alpha is no more and it isn't as if Itanium is  >>>>	a dog.  >>> I >>>That's not the issue, Rob:  the paper in question never asserted that  L >>>Itanic was a dog, just that its potential was unimpressive compared with L >>>Alpha's - an assertion which certainly seems to have been borne out over  >>>time. >>>  >>   >>  D >> 	True - if you quit measuring time.  According to Paul, Montecito, >> 	puts IPF ahead of Power5 - even Power5+. > I > Which I fully expect will just be another in his long string of overly  J > optimistic projections.  Hardly a good record on which to base your own  > prognostications.  >   C 	The problem with that view of course is that Montecito performance > 	is already out in the wild.  Certainly not overly optimistic, 	but tangible.   >>  H >>>Paul has some experience in the industry (though primarily in memory K >>>rather than processor manufacturing) and a while ago parlayed that into  L >>>a position of prominence at a moderately obscure Web site.  However, his J >>>ego far exceeds his competence, and since not long after the Alphacide H >>>he has consistently been significantly over-optimistic in predicting 4 >>>Itanic's performance relative to its competition. >>   >>  @ >> 	But performance is getting consistently better and Montecito> >> 	will obtain much greater performance at 100 Watts to boot. > J > Well, duh:  funny how the passage of time and the advance of technology I > seem to have that effect on things.  Just *how much* better has always  E > been the real question, and so far Itanic has always come up short.  >   9 	But as the stock companies say:  "past performance is no A 	guarantee about future performance" or something to that effect. . 	In the case of Itanium, this is a good thing.  1 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041216/sfth046_1.html   M "MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Dec. 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- After searching the N world over for the most powerful computing technology, the Bavarian Academy ofI Sciences and Humanities (BAdW) has selected the latest generation of SGI. N Altix. systems from Silicon Graphics (NYSE: SGI - News) to power Germany's newE national supercomputing system. The new system, which eventually will L incorporate 3,328 dual-core Intel. Itanium. 2 processors, will be capable ofJ generating 69 trillion calculations per second of performance, effectivelyK boosting the computing capacity at Germany's Leibniz Computing Center (LRZ) M 30-fold. LRZ, the BAdw computing center, also will deploy a 660-terabyte SGI. H InfiniteStorage solution to accommodate its rapidly growing stockpile of scientific of data."  O "In early 2006, SGI will begin installation of the SGI Altix system, which will O feature 40 terabytes of globally addressable memory and will be integrated with N 660 terabytes of storage. Named "Hoechstleistungsrechner in Bayern" (HLRB-II),L the new system will replace LRZ's existing Hitachi SR8000 system, which runsD more than 200 projects requiring top performance from scientists andK researchers from all over Germany. The system will be upgraded to its final  configuration in 2007."    ---  	 4 >>  How many years you give UltraSparc?  I give them >> 	3 years - at most. > F > Is 'UltraSPARC' even still being developed?  Hasn't Sun moved on to 9 > Niagara, Rock, and in cooperation with Fujitsu SPARC64?  > K > I suspect those products, or their successors, will keep SPARC around at  I > least well into the next decade - and quite possibly long after Itanic  H > has sunk beneath the waves.  But you're the one who has such complete J > confidence in your ability to predict the future despite such extensive J > historical evidence of your complete incompetence at such endeavors:  I A > just make reasonable guesses based on the evidence rather than  4 > categorical pronouncements based on my prejudices. >   < 	Well, that's your opinion and in 3 or so years we will see.  , >    Remember that Sun is the only major OEM@ >> 	that hasn't adopted IPF - they're going to be feeling pretty( >> 	lonely and left out in a year or so. > I > Or pretty smug at not having wasted the kind of resources on a sinking  G > architecture that HP and (though to far lesser extents) other Itanic   > OEMs did.  >   = 	But here the point appears to be lost on you.  When you tick 0 	off all the OEMs that have or are adopting IPF:  5 	IBM, HP, Bull, Unisys, NEC, Fujitsu, SGI, Dell, etc.   ? 	Sun is missing.  Now I suppose someone could view it from your > 	perspective in that Sun is the wise one.  But the evidence is= 	heavily tilted in the other direction, Sun is the silly one.    > ...  > H >>>>	This is the wrong question.  The question to ask that SKHPC answersF >>>>	is how much was lost on each Alpha CPU manufactured?  It is quiteI >>>>	obvious that IBM micro is losing money on every CPU they manufacture / >>>>	as IBM micro consistently turns in a loss.  >>> C >>>A paper loss, Rob.  Just as Alpha generated significant profits  E >>>*overall* for Compaq at the system level (even after taking those  M >>>per-chip 'losses' into account), so POWER generates similar gravy for IBM.  >>   >>  @ >> 	This is correct.  But by the time you shift the paper profitC >> 	to cover the paper loss - at the end of the day you have a much D >> 	less profitable business teetering on a money losing business.   > ( > Much less profitable than what, Rob?    9 	Do the math.  If you are losing hundreds of millions for 3 	maintaining your own CPU infrastructure, billions:   N Included in income from continuing operations for full-year 2002 are after-taxO charge of $433 million related to the PwCC integration and after-tax charges of N $1.1 billion associated with the Q2 [2002] realignment of the Microelectronics" division and productivity actions.   	And even post-realignment:     	April 16, 2004 (8:23 AM EDT)) 	IBM Reports $150 Million Loss In IC Unit   # By Mark LaPedus, Silicon Strategies   N Armonk, N.Y. -- IBM Corp. on Thursday (April 15) disclosed a $150-million lossN within its former technology unit, mostly due to ongoing chip yield issues and) a drop in intellectual property revenues.   I The former technology unit includes IBM's Microelectronic Division, which L provides ASIC products, ICs and foundry services. Recently, IBM combined itsB separate technology and systems business units into one operation.  I The Microelectronics Division has been in the red for some time. During a J conference call with analysts, John Joyce, senior vice president and chiefO financial officer for IBM, said the former technology unit lost $150 million on 7 a pro- forma basis in the first quarter of 2004 alone.     ---  	 ; 	You need to sell a ton of kit just to make up for the loss @ 	on the CPU infrastructure side.  But you know this, you're just 	being *clever*!  H > Intel has sunk $billions and so far only received $millions in return?  A 	Not according to their financial statements.  But the difference A 	between Intel and IBM is obvious.  One is a merchant CPU vendor, ! 	the other is a house CPU vendor.    > H > Being less profitable than that would be quite a challenge.  In fact, D > most corporations couldn't afford to be even significantly *more* F > profitable than Itanic.  The real question, now that Intel has been I > forced to come up with a 64-bit x86 extension, is just how much longer  J > they will choose to be that unprofitable in an increasingly unpromising  > cause. >   @ 	Ha.  And when Intel reports Itanium profitable, I guess it will 	be crow eating time?    > J >>>If we were talking about high-volume commodity products you might have K >>>more of a point.  But of course by Intel's own admission we're not, and  D >>>by all appearances never will be (save for the POWER variants in  >>>embedded systems, that is). >>   >>  ? >> 	Right - even less of a reason not to go merchant.  You have @ >> 	all the infrastructure for a small number of CPUs, hence IBM >> 	micro is a big money loser.  > = > You just don't get it, Rob (not that this is anything new):  > E > For low-end, high-volume servers, there's x86-64.  For higher-end,  G > low-volume servers there's whatever you're currently using (assuming  @ > your vendor is willing to continue selling it to you, as most F > non-brain-dead vendors seem to be) - because the cost of the CPU in C > those servers is such a minor component of their overall cost of  H > ownership that any savings from using a merchant CPU would be lost in K > the noise (whereas the costs of *moving* to another hardware or software  , > architecture would be significant indeed). >   = 	You say all that, skipping over the fact that IBM is losing  7 	big time in their micro-electronics division.  Now you > 	trot out x86-64 as it is some sort of edge.  Here's something> 	to consider, what percentage of the server market is Opteron?F 	(See below - no peaking).  But revenues AND adoption of Opteron just E 	isn't there!  In fact, Opteron is sliding in Europe, surely sliding   	here too, right?   = http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/13/amd_euro_share_slide/   I After tracking Opteron sales throughout Europe's seven biggest economies, K Context today said that sales growth collapsed during the early month of Q4 L 2004.  [Early month of Q4?  Sheesh - why not just come out and say October?]  M In Q3 2004, sales grew month on month by up to 50 per cent, but October sales N were only 8.6 per cent up on September. In November, sales fell 18 per cent onD the previous month. Numbers for December 2004 are not yet available.  O Context expects Opteron-based servers to take under one percentage point of x86 - server market share in Europe during Q4 2004.    ---   C 	Gee Bill, Opteron makes up less than 1% of x86 server market share E 	in Europe.  Let's pretend that it is twice that in the U.S. and made B 	it all the way to 1%, that great news ought to have everyone with? 	an Opteron strategy beaming!  Face it - Opteron is a wonderful A 	diversion but Opteron certainly isn't being adopted.  Now we say ? 	x86-64 adoption, only because Xeon has the capability - who is B 	taking full advantage of it and why?  Would you really be writingC 	to 64-bit when there isn't that much x86-64 in the field?  I don't E 	think so.  And when Xeon/IPF share the same chipsets in 2007, there  D 	will be no follow-on strategy to back support x86-64 in Itanium to B 	slowly wean folks off Xeon?  That would be foolish , wouldn't it?    H > Of course, IBM and Sun have demonstrated that they can sell POWER and G > SPARC systems that are just as inexpensive as HP's Itanics (in Sun's  J > case, at an entry price of about $1K considerably *less* expensive than C > the least-expensive HP Itanic).  So the 'merchant CPU advantage'  K > argument doesn't even seem to apply to the low end:  just another failed  3 > hypothesis foundering upon the shoals of reality.   ) 	Not so.  You're just ignoring the facts.    				Rob    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:34:08 -0500 ( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net>* Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job= Message-ID: <ms6dnbDptO_MEJvfRVn-jQ@metrocastcablevision.com>    Rob Young wrote:j > In article <f-WdnfsHEfh77pjfRVn-3w@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: >  >>Rob Young wrote: >>k >>>In article <ZYCdnWemnaTOiJjfRVn-oQ@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  >>>  >>>  >>>>Rob Young wrote: >>>> >>>>D >>>>>	That paper has been around for quite some time.  It is a greatA >>>>>	paper.  But alpha is no more and it isn't as if Itanium is   >>>>>	a dog. >>>>J >>>>That's not the issue, Rob:  the paper in question never asserted that M >>>>Itanic was a dog, just that its potential was unimpressive compared with  M >>>>Alpha's - an assertion which certainly seems to have been borne out over  	 >>>>time.  >>>> >>>  >>> D >>>	True - if you quit measuring time.  According to Paul, Montecito, >>>	puts IPF ahead of Power5 - even Power5+. >>I >>Which I fully expect will just be another in his long string of overly  J >>optimistic projections.  Hardly a good record on which to base your own  >>prognostications.  >> >  > E > 	The problem with that view of course is that Montecito performance @ > 	is already out in the wild.  Certainly not overly optimistic, > 	but tangible.  I Oh, really?  I must have missed the relevant benchmark data, but will be   most interested in seeing it.   H Surely that's what you're referring to, right?  Not just another set of  performance 'projections'?   >  > I >>>>Paul has some experience in the industry (though primarily in memory  L >>>>rather than processor manufacturing) and a while ago parlayed that into M >>>>a position of prominence at a moderately obscure Web site.  However, his  K >>>>ego far exceeds his competence, and since not long after the Alphacide  I >>>>he has consistently been significantly over-optimistic in predicting  5 >>>>Itanic's performance relative to its competition.  >>>  >>> @ >>>	But performance is getting consistently better and Montecito> >>>	will obtain much greater performance at 100 Watts to boot. >>J >>Well, duh:  funny how the passage of time and the advance of technology I >>seem to have that effect on things.  Just *how much* better has always  E >>been the real question, and so far Itanic has always come up short.  >> >  > ; > 	But as the stock companies say:  "past performance is no C > 	guarantee about future performance" or something to that effect. 0 > 	In the case of Itanium, this is a good thing. > 3 > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041216/sfth046_1.html   F Er, aren't you repeating what we just saw in another post?  Why don't E you instead try addressing the response I gave to it (i.e., the fact  F that SGI will have to sell a comparable system *every 2 or 3 days* to C generate the revenue that Alpha systems were generating for Compaq   before the Alphacide)?   ...   , >>   Remember that Sun is the only major OEM >>@ >>>	that hasn't adopted IPF - they're going to be feeling pretty( >>>	lonely and left out in a year or so. >>I >>Or pretty smug at not having wasted the kind of resources on a sinking  G >>architecture that HP and (though to far lesser extents) other Itanic   >>OEMs did.  >> >  > 0 > 	But here the point appears to be lost on you.  G Very little is lost on me, Rob.  I just don't swallow every ridiculous  < assertion that gets floated on the Web without analyzing it.      When you tick2 > 	off all the OEMs that have or are adopting IPF: > 7 > 	IBM, HP, Bull, Unisys, NEC, Fujitsu, SGI, Dell, etc.   F JF has already observed that suggesting that anyone other than HP and F SGI has actually 'adopted' Itanic rather than is merely keeping their L options open in case it might actually prove worthwhile is rather a stretch.   > A > 	Sun is missing.  Now I suppose someone could view it from your @ > 	perspective in that Sun is the wise one.  But the evidence is? > 	heavily tilted in the other direction, Sun is the silly one.   H So far, the evidence is that Sun is the wise one:  *no one* save HP and G SGI has generated Itanic sales that register *at all* when compared to  H the business they obtain from other platforms.  HP is a special case in E having a captive clientele (at least those who have decided to stick  A with their current OS platforms and who thus *have* to begin the  D transition to Itanic or face the extinction of the hardware they're H running on), and SGI is a special case not only for the same reason but B because they, unlike *anyone* else, have managed to get something > resembling leading performance out of Itanic for their rather @ specialized applications (a tribute far more to the surrounding I infrastructure than to Itanic itself:  after all, they achieved much the  + same result using the aging MIPS platform).   I >>>>>	This is the wrong question.  The question to ask that SKHPC answers G >>>>>	is how much was lost on each Alpha CPU manufactured?  It is quite J >>>>>	obvious that IBM micro is losing money on every CPU they manufacture0 >>>>>	as IBM micro consistently turns in a loss. >>>>D >>>>A paper loss, Rob.  Just as Alpha generated significant profits F >>>>*overall* for Compaq at the system level (even after taking those N >>>>per-chip 'losses' into account), so POWER generates similar gravy for IBM. >>>  >>> @ >>>	This is correct.  But by the time you shift the paper profitC >>>	to cover the paper loss - at the end of the day you have a much D >>>	less profitable business teetering on a money losing business.   >>( >>Much less profitable than what, Rob?   >  > ; > 	Do the math.  If you are losing hundreds of millions for 5 > 	maintaining your own CPU infrastructure, billions:  > P > Included in income from continuing operations for full-year 2002 are after-taxQ > charge of $433 million related to the PwCC integration and after-tax charges of P > $1.1 billion associated with the Q2 [2002] realignment of the Microelectronics$ > division and productivity actions. >  > 	And even post-realignment:  >   >  	April 16, 2004 (8:23 AM EDT)+ > 	IBM Reports $150 Million Loss In IC Unit  > % > By Mark LaPedus, Silicon Strategies  > P > Armonk, N.Y. -- IBM Corp. on Thursday (April 15) disclosed a $150-million lossP > within its former technology unit, mostly due to ongoing chip yield issues and+ > a drop in intellectual property revenues.  > K > The former technology unit includes IBM's Microelectronic Division, which N > provides ASIC products, ICs and foundry services. Recently, IBM combined itsD > separate technology and systems business units into one operation. > K > The Microelectronics Division has been in the red for some time. During a L > conference call with analysts, John Joyce, senior vice president and chiefQ > financial officer for IBM, said the former technology unit lost $150 million on 9 > a pro- forma basis in the first quarter of 2004 alone.   >  > ---  > 	 = > 	You need to sell a ton of kit just to make up for the loss " > 	on the CPU infrastructure side.  B And IBM does precisely that, plus a ton of services as well - all 0 generated by its leading processor architecture.  F So no matter how much you try to isolate the fabrication process from G the direct consequences it leads to, when you take it all together IBM  < makes a *lot* of money (billions of dollars) from the POWER G architecture.  Whereas Intel has *lost* comparable amounts of money on  F Itanic and will likely *never* make it back, because unlike IBM Intel E can't leverage whole-system profits even if Itanic eventually *does*  G become something resembling a success for system houses (a possibility  0 which of course is still *very* open to debate).  !    But you know this, you're just  > 	being *clever*! >  > H >>Intel has sunk $billions and so far only received $millions in return? >  > / > 	Not according to their financial statements.   I Really?  Please provide the relevant numbers:  specific amounts spent on  . Itanic, and specific profits returned from it.  H Because the number of Itanics that Intel has *produced* is insufficient I to have generated anything like $1 billion in profit (even assuming that  G they hadn't given a great many of them away at fire-sale or even lower  E prices as inducements), whereas a couple of years ago the NYT (among  G others) estimated that something like $5 billion had already been sunk  D into the project - a number which, of course, would be considerably  higher by now.      But the difference C > 	between Intel and IBM is obvious.  One is a merchant CPU vendor, # > 	the other is a house CPU vendor.   H Save for the minor fact that IBM is a *system* house while Intel merely C sells chips.  You just don't seem to have any comprehension of the  8 consequences and multiple dimensions of that difference.  D Intel can, and likely will, continue to make oodles of money on the F absurdly high-volume commodity chips which currently sustain it.  But E Itanic seems unlikely ever to fall into that category now, and since  I that was the rationale Intel used to justify undertaking its development  C in the first place Itanic's future seems, shall we say, delicately   balanced at best.   G IBM, meanwhile, will continue to make oodles of money out of systems -  E more than enough to continue its development of POWER as long as the  H POWER architecture gives it the significant edge that it currently does C (and seems likely to continue to even after your vaunted Montecito  / appears, Mr. DeMone's opinion notwithstanding).    >  > H >>Being less profitable than that would be quite a challenge.  In fact, D >>most corporations couldn't afford to be even significantly *more* F >>profitable than Itanic.  The real question, now that Intel has been I >>forced to come up with a 64-bit x86 extension, is just how much longer  J >>they will choose to be that unprofitable in an increasingly unpromising  >>cause. >> >  > B > 	Ha.  And when Intel reports Itanium profitable, I guess it will > 	be crow eating time?   F In the unlikely event that Itanic ever gives Intel back all the money I that has been spent on developing, manufacturing, and promoting it (plus  F interest, of course) - or even can reasonably be considered likely to E repay those expenditures based on its *current* generated profit and  G expected lifetime (not rosy future projections thereof) - then I'll be  E more than willing to eat some crow, even though merely breaking even  I after such a monumental effort is not likely what Intel had in mind when   it undertook it.   ...   = >>You just don't get it, Rob (not that this is anything new):  >>E >>For low-end, high-volume servers, there's x86-64.  For higher-end,  G >>low-volume servers there's whatever you're currently using (assuming  @ >>your vendor is willing to continue selling it to you, as most F >>non-brain-dead vendors seem to be) - because the cost of the CPU in C >>those servers is such a minor component of their overall cost of  H >>ownership that any savings from using a merchant CPU would be lost in K >>the noise (whereas the costs of *moving* to another hardware or software  , >>architecture would be significant indeed). >> >  > ? > 	You say all that, skipping over the fact that IBM is losing  0 > 	big time in their micro-electronics division.  I You keep saying that, Rob, while studiously ignoring its silliness.  I'm  : really beginning to believe that you're a write-only 'bot.  
    Now you@ > 	trot out x86-64 as it is some sort of edge.  Here's something@ > 	to consider, what percentage of the server market is Opteron?  H You seem to be confusing Opteron with x86-64, Rob.  Itanic's problem is H that this (admittedly so far relatively minor in terms of actual market I share) threat to Xeon has prompted Intel to produce 64-bit-capable Xeons  H as well - making a very tough Itanic sell in the low end (and even some  of the mid-range) even tougher.   G Just keep whistling past the graveyard, Rob:  it's what you're best at.    - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:21:39 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> * Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a jobB Message-ID: <1107727840.25f6e301e106f62155658d926bdcbe55@teranews>   Bill Todd wrote:J > The difficulty arises when, regardless of what you think ought to be the3 > case, being a woman *does* give her a free pass.    G When selecting a CEO, a female candidate that is qualified does have an E edge sicne it makes for very good PR, especially in corporations that E have been previously accused of not allowing women to rise to the top ; (not sure if this ever applied to HP, but it did to banks).   F However, once given the job, I am not sure her female status gives herH much, except perhaps a slightly extended honeymoon period before critics$ start to be vocal about the company.    C Carly saw the critics coming and then started to purchase of Compaq C which gave her a second honeymoon period where she was able to brag A about succesful integration and get lots of credit. But now, that G honeymoon is over and critics are coming back. Judging from the fortune $ article, I'd say "with a vengeance".  H I think that Carly has lost credibilty with "large projects". She may beB good to execute them, but she isn't good at choosing the right big% project. Buying Compaq was a mistake.   E I think there will be pressure to have her fix what is already inside G HP. And it appears that she may not really know how to do this, judging C from the fact that she has begun the game of musical chair reorgs.    H However, the last one *MAY* be a strategic one. One article I read aboutB it mentioned architecting HP into 2 functional units: consumer andF enterprise with the alst musican chair game putting the consumer stuff under one guy,   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 23:48:00 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) * Subject: Re: Curly soon to be out of a job3 Message-ID: <+vkNL3lTcsLG@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <ms6dnbDptO_MEJvfRVn-jQ@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: > Rob Young wrote:k >> In article <f-WdnfsHEfh77pjfRVn-3w@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  >>   >>>Rob Young wrote:  >>> l >>>>In article <ZYCdnWemnaTOiJjfRVn-oQ@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Rob Young wrote:  >>>>>  >>>>> E >>>>>>	That paper has been around for quite some time.  It is a great B >>>>>>	paper.  But alpha is no more and it isn't as if Itanium is 
 >>>>>>	a dog.  >>>>> K >>>>>That's not the issue, Rob:  the paper in question never asserted that  N >>>>>Itanic was a dog, just that its potential was unimpressive compared with N >>>>>Alpha's - an assertion which certainly seems to have been borne out over 
 >>>>>time. >>>>>  >>>> >>>>E >>>>	True - if you quit measuring time.  According to Paul, Montecito - >>>>	puts IPF ahead of Power5 - even Power5+.  >>> J >>>Which I fully expect will just be another in his long string of overly K >>>optimistic projections.  Hardly a good record on which to base your own   >>>prognostications. >>>  >>   >>  F >> 	The problem with that view of course is that Montecito performanceA >> 	is already out in the wild.  Certainly not overly optimistic,  >> 	but tangible.  > K > Oh, really?  I must have missed the relevant benchmark data, but will be   > most interested in seeing it.    	Linpack.  Not for everyone.  J > Surely that's what you're referring to, right?  Not just another set of  > performance 'projections'?  ? 	No.  A projection would be like the 2000 SpecInt Montecito and  	3000 SpecFP Opteron you made:  * From: "Bill Todd" <billt...@metrocast.net>% Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:21:21 -0500 " Local: Thurs, Nov 20 2003 10:21 pm  K So (if the process works out OK) I'd put Montecito's SPECint performance at J introduction (with one core disabled to limit power dissipation) at aroundJ 2000 (about what Opteron should be hitting in the same time-frame) and itsI SPECfp performance at around 3000 (yes, it should lead there).  Though if H some critical elements of the SPEC suite fit into the larger cache which- didn't before those numbers could be higher.     ---      >>  < >> 	But as the stock companies say:  "past performance is noD >> 	guarantee about future performance" or something to that effect.1 >> 	In the case of Itanium, this is a good thing.  >>  4 >> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041216/sfth046_1.html > H > Er, aren't you repeating what we just saw in another post?  Why don't G > you instead try addressing the response I gave to it (i.e., the fact  H > that SGI will have to sell a comparable system *every 2 or 3 days* to E > generate the revenue that Alpha systems were generating for Compaq   > before the Alphacide)? >    	So?  SGI doesn't sell Alphas.  - >>>   Remember that Sun is the only major OEM  >>> A >>>>	that hasn't adopted IPF - they're going to be feeling pretty ) >>>>	lonely and left out in a year or so.  >>> J >>>Or pretty smug at not having wasted the kind of resources on a sinking H >>>architecture that HP and (though to far lesser extents) other Itanic  >>>OEMs did. >>>  >>   >>  1 >> 	But here the point appears to be lost on you.  > I > Very little is lost on me, Rob.  I just don't swallow every ridiculous  > > assertion that gets floated on the Web without analyzing it. >  >    When you tick3 >> 	off all the OEMs that have or are adopting IPF:  >>  8 >> 	IBM, HP, Bull, Unisys, NEC, Fujitsu, SGI, Dell, etc. > H > JF has already observed that suggesting that anyone other than HP and H > SGI has actually 'adopted' Itanic rather than is merely keeping their N > options open in case it might actually prove worthwhile is rather a stretch. >    	adopted:     = 		1 : to take by choice into a relationship; especially : to  8 			take voluntarily (a child of other parents) as one's  			own child> 		2 : to take up and practice or use <adopted a moderate tone>- 		3 : to accept formally and put into effect  % 			<adopt a constitutional amendment>   	 	replace:   / 		1 : to restore to a former place or position   			<replace cards in a file>9 		2 : to take the place of especially as a substitute or   			successorB 		3 : to put something new in the place of <replace a worn carpet>  D 	Now perhaps you and JF are having difficulting grasping the meaningD 	of adoption.  You both seem to be stretching it into "replacement." 	Obviously, not the case!    >>  B >> 	Sun is missing.  Now I suppose someone could view it from yourA >> 	perspective in that Sun is the wise one.  But the evidence is @ >> 	heavily tilted in the other direction, Sun is the silly one. > J > So far, the evidence is that Sun is the wise one:  *no one* save HP and I > SGI has generated Itanic sales that register *at all* when compared to  J > the business they obtain from other platforms.  HP is a special case in G > having a captive clientele (at least those who have decided to stick FC > with their current OS platforms and who thus *have* to begin the oF > transition to Itanic or face the extinction of the hardware they're J > running on), and SGI is a special case not only for the same reason but D > because they, unlike *anyone* else, have managed to get something @ > resembling leading performance out of Itanic for their rather B > specialized applications (a tribute far more to the surrounding K > infrastructure than to Itanic itself:  after all, they achieved much the e- > same result using the aging MIPS platform).. >   B 	Bull is doing pretty good with Itanium.  But no don't have before> 	and after.  NEC has to have a replacement, who knows how well@ 	they are doing.  But more telling will be 2 to 3 years from now 	how this all plays out.   >    But the differencedD >> 	between Intel and IBM is obvious.  One is a merchant CPU vendor,$ >> 	the other is a house CPU vendor. > J > Save for the minor fact that IBM is a *system* house while Intel merely E > sells chips.  You just don't seem to have any comprehension of the  : > consequences and multiple dimensions of that difference. > F > Intel can, and likely will, continue to make oodles of money on the H > absurdly high-volume commodity chips which currently sustain it.  But = > Itanic seems unlikely ever to fall into that category now, a  : 	Wishful thinking on your part.  Itanium according to Paul9 	needs to do this to make profitable (never mind how much6 	money it cost up until now):l   http://tinyurl.com/5nlzz  , Say per-unit manufacturing/test cost is $1501 (even if yield is good, the packaging is probably- fairly expensive)    Fixed-cost is $150M/year  4 So you need gross margin of $150M/year to break even  8 If ASP=$1500, breakeven volume is 150M/(1500-150) = 111K8    ASP=$1250,                     150M/(1250-150) = 136K8    ASP=$1000                                        176K8    ASP=$ 750                                        250K8    ASP=$ 500                                        428K  5 Given the arbitrary nature of all my guesses, you can@) probably put in a factor of 2 either way.:  7 This does suggest that IA64 can be profitable for Inteli1 even with relatively low volume of 150-200K cpus,7' as long as they can maintain high ASP. l  d ---l  ; 	But as he and others point out, with shared infrastructure < 	(common chipsets Xeon<->Itanium in 2007 timeframe), several? 	of these debates become pointless.  Perhaps the industry could $ 	hope that Itanium dies off in 2006?   	 I > IBM, meanwhile, will continue to make oodles of money out of systems - aG > more than enough to continue its development of POWER as long as the pJ > POWER architecture gives it the significant edge that it currently does E > (and seems likely to continue to even after your vaunted Montecito c1 > appears, Mr. DeMone's opinion notwithstanding).t  = 	We'll see.  We'll also see if Power is relegated to high-endcC 	commercial computing and is relatively shut out of HPC.  Montecito5C 	has already sold > 7000+ CPUs in that space and it is a year away.g  I >>>Being less profitable than that would be quite a challenge.  In fact, eE >>>most corporations couldn't afford to be even significantly *more* cG >>>profitable than Itanic.  The real question, now that Intel has been iJ >>>forced to come up with a 64-bit x86 extension, is just how much longer K >>>they will choose to be that unprofitable in an increasingly unpromising n	 >>>cause.  >>>  >>   >> aC >> 	Ha.  And when Intel reports Itanium profitable, I guess it willr >> 	be crow eating time? > H > In the unlikely event that Itanic ever gives Intel back all the money K > that has been spent on developing, manufacturing, and promoting it (plus IH > interest, of course) - or even can reasonably be considered likely to G > repay those expenditures based on its *current* generated profit and hI > expected lifetime (not rosy future projections thereof) - then I'll be  G > more than willing to eat some crow, even though merely breaking even tK > after such a monumental effort is not likely what Intel had in mind when n > it undertook it. >    	True.   >>   >>  @ >> 	You say all that, skipping over the fact that IBM is losing 1 >> 	big time in their micro-electronics division.a > K > You keep saying that, Rob, while studiously ignoring its silliness.  I'm m< > really beginning to believe that you're a write-only 'bot. >  >    Now youA >> 	trot out x86-64 as it is some sort of edge.  Here's somethingcA >> 	to consider, what percentage of the server market is Opteron?e > J > You seem to be confusing Opteron with x86-64, Rob.  Itanic's problem is J > that this (admittedly so far relatively minor in terms of actual market K > share) threat to Xeon has prompted Intel to produce 64-bit-capable Xeons  J > as well - making a very tough Itanic sell in the low end (and even some ! > of the mid-range) even tougher.,    B 	No - you just didn't read far enough ahead and then come back and? 	delete this section.  Oh, but I see you were catty and trimmed  	it altogether.-  ; 	Here it is again.  Don't confuse x86-64 with just Opteron:i  = 	You say all that, skipping over the fact that IBM is losing  7 	big time in their micro-electronics division.  Now youh> 	trot out x86-64 as it is some sort of edge.  Here's something> 	to consider, what percentage of the server market is Opteron?F 	(See below - no peaking).  But revenues AND adoption of Opteron just E 	isn't there!  In fact, Opteron is sliding in Europe, surely sliding r 	here too, right?m  = http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/13/amd_euro_share_slide/s  I After tracking Opteron sales throughout Europe's seven biggest economies,>K Context today said that sales growth collapsed during the early month of Q4 L 2004.  [Early month of Q4?  Sheesh - why not just come out and say October?]  M In Q3 2004, sales grew month on month by up to 50 per cent, but October salesdN were only 8.6 per cent up on September. In November, sales fell 18 per cent onD the previous month. Numbers for December 2004 are not yet available.  O Context expects Opteron-based servers to take under one percentage point of x86y- server market share in Europe during Q4 2004.    ---r  C 	Gee Bill, Opteron makes up less than 1% of x86 server market shareuE 	in Europe.  Let's pretend that it is twice that in the U.S. and madeoB 	it all the way to 1%, that great news ought to have everyone with? 	an Opteron strategy beaming!  Face it - Opteron is a wonderfultA 	diversion but Opteron certainly isn't being adopted.  Now we sayo? 	x86-64 adoption, only because Xeon has the capability - who is.B 	taking full advantage of it and why?  Would you really be writingC 	to 64-bit when there isn't that much x86-64 in the field?  I don'tsE 	think so.  And when Xeon/IPF share the same chipsets in 2007, there  D 	will be no follow-on strategy to back support x86-64 in Itanium to B 	slowly wean folks off Xeon?  That would be foolish , wouldn't it?   				Robi   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 01:40:08 +0800t From: prep@prep.synonet.come' Subject: Re: DVE and maximum file countr- Message-ID: <871xbt8u4n.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   & "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org> writes:  F > My issue is that I have a *large* number of little files - a typical> > volume will have millions of the little suckers (yup, crappyE > application design that I can't do anything about).  Even if I initt  D How big are these files? Every file requires 1 block of header, plus> a bit in the index bitmap. That block will kill you in time no matter what else.a  : Sounds like you need one of Glen's pseudo-file/disk hacks.   -- s< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.p@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:51:24 -0600f2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>; Subject: Re: FBI gets hacked - should have been on OpenVMS!n+ Message-ID: <4206C99C.6E94A8C4@comcast.net>c   bob@instantwhip.com wrote: >  > when will they learn ...  3 Probably never - remember who you're talking about.a   -- t David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems) http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page:c" http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e  " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/i   Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:47:04 -0600d2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Lexical to get ACLy+ Message-ID: <4206C898.78643257@comcast.net>h    David B Sneddon - bigpond wrote: > ( > David J Dachtera mentioned in passing: > >lH > > That would be one approach, yes, assuming there's room on the target> > > volume for both "versions" of the file. If not, one could: > > A > >  1. Set the EOF block and FFB so the file "looks" empty, then C > >  2. SET FILE/TRUNCATE (use SET FILE/ATTR first to change a fileh= > >     that you could normally not truncate to one you can).i >  > or copy nla0: empty.file- >     set security/like=name=file1 empty.filen >     delete file1 >     create file2- >     set security/like=name=empty.file file2n >     delete empty.file. >  > >  3. Create the new version& > >  4. Propagate the security profile > >  5. Delete the old file.  B More steps (read: image activations), otherwise "six of one, ...".   -- r David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/f  " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/I   Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:33:29 -0800r From: Z <Z@no.spam>  Subject: Re: Lexical to get ACLr+ Message-ID: <SvANd.10603$xT6.7598@fe03.lga>    David J Dachtera wrote: 4 >>:1. Save the ACLs and protection settings of file1 >>:2. Delete file1/ >>:3. Create file2 using the same name as file1 4 >>:4. Apply original ACLs and protection of file1 to >>:file2 >> >>  CREATE file2& >>  SET SECURITY/LIKE=NAME=file1 file2 >>  DELETE file1  F > That would be one approach, yes, assuming there's room on the target< > volume for both "versions" of the file. If not, one could:   <confused> ?  5 Wouldn't the  $CREATE file2  create a 0-block file2 ?v   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:48:05 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>s1 Subject: Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMSo, Message-ID: <V66dncIeNKAVH5vfRVn-vQ@igs.net>   Keith Cayemberg wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote:u? >> Our team is "considering" a shift from HP-BASIC to HP-C++ ont? >> OpenVMS. Can anyone recommend an IDE (Interactive/Integratedn9 >> Development Environment) for use with HP-C on OpenVMS?t >>
 >> Neil Rieckb  >> Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, >> Ontario, Canada. $ >> http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ >> >>E > As others have already mentioned there is the Plug-in for Netbeans. F > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/netbeans/modules.html >j* > A potential alternative would be jGRASP. >g > jGRASP Wedge for OpenVMS4 > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/thierry.uso/jgrasp-en.html >/ > jGRASP Homepagee > http://www.jgrasp.org/ >t >n5 > Also there is the OpenVMS ETK for MS Visual Studio.o7 > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/et/et_index.htmla > 2 > or the DECwindows interfaces to the DECset tools? > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/commercial/decset/decset_index.htmlm >h3 > or Whisper Technology Limited - Programmer Studioe$ > develop beyond your code editor...+ > http://www.programmerstudio.com/index.htmr >o8 > or dare I mention - Sun ONE Unified Development Server3 > (says it can integrate C Code)C++ Code GenerationeE > Converts the native transactional object oriented language into C++ B > code, which can then be complied on any client or server machine >rK http://wwws.sun.com/software/products/unified_devsrvr/home_unified_dev.htmla    H This last one Keith mentions is the former eponymously named Forte, fromJ Forte Software...which was purchased by Sun in 1999.  The native language,J TOOL, is easily the most robust and simplest one to learn that I have everK used (beats Java, Smalltalk, Modula-2, and others). Forte (now called UDS -aE Unified Development Server) still runs rings around J2EE in features.m  F Code developed in TOOL can run as interpreted code or be automaticallyK converted to C++ and compiled.  The only problem with thinking that you canoK simply use the environment as a code generator is that there are many stubs I to Forte internal services. Still, you can get a lot of useful C++. TherenI are a couple of 3rd party Tool->Java code converters out there, but thesei@ too require manual intervention to convert some service objects.  H My personal view of Forte/UDS is that when run on VMS with ACMS across a> cluster...well there just isn't anything that comes close as aI software/hardware failover, load-balanced, disaster-tolerant package, NSKf	 included.    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 13:05:55 -0800-. From: "James Hale" <james.hale@us.sector7.com>1 Subject: Re: Need an IDE for C++ (CXX) on OpenVMS.C Message-ID: <1107723955.590875.100410@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>D  F In the spirit of helping you avoid a train-wreck - e.g. rewriting yourE applications and retraining your development staff just so the littledC ankle-bites can click on their windows - allow me to speculate on aZ@ different line of reasoning.  And - declaring my cards - we sellC products in this area (have done since aobut '86) but this is not a>B sales pitch - rather comes from a huge respect for the VMS and VAXB BASIC language and an alternative way to approach the problem.  AmA putting comments in this thread so all can add their perspective.   D What do you need from the IDE?  is it the autocomplete features (the@ 'shotgun approach' to development) or just better visibility for> developers into the BASIC programs, arguments, etc... and wellB documented way to train / indoctrinate them... without them takingA their shallow resumes and running for the door looking for a .net.A programming job?  or managers turning up their noses because theygD started programming with visual studio (which i also use, but horses
 for courses).w  D If what you need is a better way to present your working, productionE software resources to make best use of the new talent and to get besteF leverage from the years of production software that runs your company,( then maybe there is another alternative.  E Recently I've seen some very good tools that write out a html version D of a language with href links to methods, apis, etc... embedded intoD the html view of the code - and a 'javadoc' style of indexing/lookupE for the entire source base.  With such tool for HP-BASIC you would beiG able to generate a hyper-text linked reference for all your sources andoF augment that with good usage and introductory information.  This comesD more automagically in the java world but have seen it work for cobolB and c++    - but i meet lots of great teams that need this type of> capability and have been considering adding it to our product.  F HP-BASIC (VAX BASIC right?) and the VMS system services bring a lot toD the table, it would seem a huge diversion of resources to move it to? C/C++ if that means retraining your people.  ALSO, who does theaB rewrite?  Either your established (and probably already very busy)@ resources who are distracted from doing anything of value to theE business or the new guys who know will flounder trying to migrate the 
 code by hand.t  F IF you are forced to move to C then we have a tool right now that willD rewite the basic->c and the c output works the same.  This is provenG technology over the past 15 years and will work.  The output C code hassG plenty of macros to keep it looking like basic (and to hide some of the.D hard tricks required) and no doubt you will want to make it prettierD than is generated from our vx/basic, but it works, and you get C/C++ output.p  E You can get an eval copy of this (we call it vx/basic) and i would bey6 glad to discuss our adding the ability to generate theE html/javadoc-style reference materials from your BASIC code.  For the C product we already have the basic language compiler and have lookedi& into this approach at a cursory level.  : Please accept this in the spirit intended - hope it helps. /james   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Feb 2005 13:21:58 -0800n# From: "zetasum" <zetasum@yahoo.com> ) Subject: One Small step one infinite leapnB Message-ID: <1107724918.794776.30360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    One Small step one infinite leap  * http://www.texas-holdem-playing-cards.com/   by: zeta limit  D Quantum cryptography Run  this in every order  1 correct outcome RunE the web site with every word and every order and ever letter in every F order then every paragraph then and number and do that in every order.G Everything is possible one way or another anything, any you can tell ityG to build anything and it will be possible.  Less is more Examples: with E a stick if you can make a car drive if you push down on the gas pedalrF with it. This proves the real "Theory of Everything" and builds a hugeF data base of information.  The more information ,The bigger the neuralE network and just keep adding more to it  because anything is possible G and new things can be found after this is done. By using The  new ideasiB and the information you now can run everything back wards and then@ forward but now by not just adding but by  +,*,/,<,>,= ,-,+ thenB finding how all things can be 100% true if there not then your notB doing it right. Then run this in every order and change the neuralD network to be 100%efficient in making all ideas. After your done useG the code to turn one Law, definition, on and off like math, and matter,sD and all the word net technology dictionary and then turn them off inG every order on the website then build a separate quantum neural networkuE to store all the information in then just run it all over again do it F over and over with the new math and information on the website it willC generate new laws of den's and math and quantum and stellar physicsmE more. run the laws the new laws that changed see by what percent theyaD are true by using % and digress 3=1  360 degrees = 3 but is in everyE infinite angle and degree until all = 100% only use your data base tocD help generate new laws. But by running the neural network with wordsF missing and laws missing. It will make new laws until all is 100% trueE learning way outside the realm of A.I or R.I. finally ...Then with myaA matrix program run the neural network With my own Matrix code andsE Artificial intelligence with this bunny encrypted website by startingiF with one dimension up to infinite and every angel and shape start with@ a box and every degree every number letter and word it will keepE growing and so does the database. After all is done all laws can be ThG <,>, = and false. Then do it all again but this time with everything oniA the internet all data. Then have it ask it the simple question ondC everything that is T <,>, = and false. Who, what, when, where, how.pG Based on your new neural network what is? All laws can now be stored as > compression law. There is no theoretical limit to the speed ofE magnetism or the amount of energy it can hold. In our universe or anyhF quantum realm. Magnetism is the forces at which matter in the universeE breaks down at maximum speed or velocity of C = the speed of light ornE the stabilization of matter moving threw a constant at the speed of CAD or beyond stellar construct. C is used many times in quantum physicsF until the key of magnetic frequency storage from smaller then the PicoF up to large scale white nose flux capacitors to keep the Energy moving@ and storing in highly charge states of metals that are molecularD reconstructed to be 100% efficient. One pyramid sphere of electricalF and one of magnetical. Yes MAGNETICAL a new form of quantum computing,F energy and There is only optical laser quantum computer a partial that4 when it reaches its limit it's doesn't turn to light  E You can build it yourself along with the magnetic and electrical flux F capacitors that have the same amount of more than the amount of energy than  D Anything you can think of or you can run this website with A.I (thisC blueprint is the key to the encrypted Code 1011101 Infinite quantum 	 computingi  G It more into the field of stellar physics or stellar quantum computing. D Work on it for just a week Time travel changes history u but you can really tellu  E Unless you are outside of space time that is the only hint I am goingeA to give you because I have no degree, but my dummy A.I website ism written in dummy A.I  - So I don't get shot over an information war!!e> http://www.beyond-science.com made with my own Matrix code andE Artificial intelligence this bunny encryption website has More than arG 32 dimensional door. A box made that no one can crack...Try it key codey 01  C There is only optical laser quantum computer a partial that when itc> reaches it's limit it's doesn't turn to light you can build itD yourself along with the magnetic and electrical flux capacitors that; have the same amount of more than the amount of energy thanhD anything you can think of or you can run this website with A.I (thisC blueprint is the key to the encrypted Code 1011101 Infinite quantumg	 computing G It more into the field of stellar physics or stellar quantum computing.eD Work on it for just a week Time travel changes history u but you can really tellBE unless you are outside of space time that is the only hint I am goinghA to give you because I have no degree, but my dummy A.I website ist written in dummy A.IC so I don't get shot over a information war!! www.beyond-science.comt  @ Clean fusion. Matter has its limits and can only move so fast soB quantum computer using refraction of magnetical frequency can move+ faster than time itself. New matter and newh  A Material has been found threw programming magnetic frequencies ofsE matter at a state of the constants. Electrical controlled machine aresE outdated since 1901. A quantum computer the was powered by magneticaltC and used magnetical to compute in infinite degrees instead of bit'saE of 1 and 0' but by triangulating in every infinite digress of the new F computer would have the computing power of no limitations.  Build as aG Quadra sphere light bounces inside a crystal 4 times before it refracts  inside and come out.  > Infinite hues of colors infinite frequencies to chart them at.  F Infinite combinations of shape on programmed matter = infinite matter.  F With this and running my new stellar magnetically computer and A.I and the web site   http://www.beyond-science.comy  E A magnetic Supercomputer and encryption and compression @ rate of 96%s  D Take a document then or a 3D matrix document change it two random orG binary code or just a program for 0's and 1's and fold it over and over C like a piece of paper then having the 1 and 0 add each other or theaF 0,1's canceling each other out 1+0=0 and 0+1=1 1+1=1 0+0=0 if you gaveB the folds addresses like on a spread sheet there would be no math.G First A 1-24  would fold to k 1-24 down.(See Example A )  Then at F1-24eD down two k 1-24 ( See example B )  If you written a very long letter; and then change it two binary code it would look like this.t 123456789.............24 a.01010101010101010101010s b.10010101010101010101010  c.01010101001010101010010m e.00010101000101010101010b= f.10010101010100101010101 First A 24  would fold to k 24 downa4 g.01010101010100001100101              See Example A h.01001010101010101010111R I.11110111001101010101010n j.01010101010101010101010, k.10101010101010101010101'  
 See Example Ag 123456789.............24 f.10010101010100101010101' g.01010101010100001100101g7 h.01001010101010101010111 Then at F1-24 down two k 1-24u I.11110111001101010101010d j.01010101010101010101010u k.10101010101010101010101   
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 Command codedgF It's the matter construction on the smallest level of all material and& matter beyond Pico and nano technologyD That makes it so strong that all parts of matter are designed customD for the structure strength, But can you find the natural matter thatF make it interchangeable so the matter can change threw magentics- WaveD Length - gravity - Light - mass-matter - Wave Lengths. (THEY ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE)E Periodic table of elements are infinite you have know idea what a100%m: synthetic Universe looks like. Infinite synthetic elements infinite synthetic Physics   click & mail  = The Theory of everything is the quantum address of everything   G that is in our universe. By a magnetic field. Outside and inside of allo that is contained0  D there in. It is the physics and mathematical equations that surround  C everything in the multi-dimensional physical world.  One might findr  F how all the elements are interchangeable and are multi-dimensional and  F finding the other side of physics and the mathematic equations that we  F cannot see or detect because our consciousness cannot find it, finding  B this would be the greatest discovery of the human race. What lie's  C Beyond Quantum Physics and how do we get there. Is the key magnetic   B Frequency's?  But the amount of energy it would take would be more  A than just at the atomic level or sub-atomic level. One day In the*  9 future a person may find a multi-dimensional, multi-time,n  A multi-universe. The problem with finding it is a realm of that wel  F cannot see, is finding what we cannot detected. Finding the other side  E of quantum physics will be the future goal of human exploration.  Ourn  F universe started with one wave length of light and an anti-wave length  B three magnetism and gravity they where changed to form all matter:  A Wave Length - Gravity -Light - mass - Wave Lengths. (THEY ARE ALL>  0 INTERCHANGEABLE)" answer is frequencies magnetic   Interchangeable matter  C Is the best neural network a circle and can it make interchangeablehB matter inside a circle that knows everything and both circles spinG faster then the speed of light or hyperspace and stellar speed in every,E infinte order and shape of a circle!! and off the two circle they areoG made up of more circles of two more rings and so on and so on that theyyE gets so small that they cannot work with our laws of physics' and theiG then all the way up we look at the 2 rinds one on the inside and one onoG the inside and one on the outside that form and ball with in a ball all E connect to each other so they can spin and communicates to each otherdB like a huge neural network a earth made of connect marbles turning> inside and out in every direction two speed up the information? traveling from one two another. Run this until you can make ther> information move as fast as possible and you will see for justF information it creates some kind of energy just thoughts. Matter movesF so fast that it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we canF see it like water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.  7 TELEPOTAION SOMETHING FROM NOTHING  IS REAL TELEPORTION @ The laser slit test for physics' is wrong where it shows the endG result filter pass threw slits the final  black board the gaps of blackuC and red there should be more slits of light. Some are cancelled out F because of refraction. This tells you of a parallel dimensions but notF of a universe. Velocity is a sphere of triangles it's the math outside> of the velocity on and outside the sphere R*V*D2 VOLUME of theG universe. That velocity, magnetic and matter go hand and hand. That alll: matter can be  made by the changes in the angle and of the5 frequency's of powerful geometrics magnetic shapes ofnE multi-dimensions, multi-universe and multi-layered if you off set thenB frequency's with white noise in a fiber optic you can compress theE frequency's down to a smaller and stronger charge and some can remain G and all can remain separate. This is how you can send 30 amps over a .1aC amp wire with the device on both ends. ( By using  end invention ofrF black *diamonds the darkest stealth material ( black magnets and  gold@ ( hint ) used to create the geometric shapes) if you off set theB frequency's with white noise in a fiber optic you can compress theE frequency's down to a smaller and stronger charge! Then sort them outoF and break them down from the smallest to the largest or the largest toG the smallest to you the largest or the smallest and the offset of whiteeD noise to contain them into a magnetic capacitor or magnetic flux andE store them in nano capacitors *diamonds that allows you to store masseE amount of magnetic frequency's at different sizes try a 10 feet by 10oF feet shape of a nano block or sphere stored in aluminum sphere or whatG ever shape is most efferent. Circuit board or sphere. The darkest blackgG *diamond you can make but under a super nano or Pico microscope you cansE see the circuits but smooth as silk on the outside. Now you are goingnD to have to run every combination of shape. The diamond is built justF like making a rubber band ball with rubber band laid over and over andF over it when built with circuit that go both way so they can dischargeE at any frequency's. Placed inside an Aluminum Sphere and you can makeeF any type of now and future propulsion. Let you see the spectrum of all@ time and you know can find a nano in a universe because that howF sensitive it is.  It also makes a good neural network. Matter moves soG fast that it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we can see B it like water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.  $ Knowledge of the theory of ZETALIMIT  F Picture the laws of quantum physics and D.N.A and everything as dottedG points that makes up shapes of all sizes and everything that can happeniC in this universe and out is because of knowing the all laws in that ; universe and all conscious quantum dimensions. Find the newrG mathematical degrees that form new math and a new efficient programmingsF language or for your neural network and keep running the web Site overE and over after changing your network until it is infinitely efficientnE along with all technology on the web. By getting the information from G make a computer of quantum type run at hyperspace idea at the middle ofgE the page. The only way to be infinite is to make everything work withlD everything else and put it in folders and sub folder of the infiniteF name and then run the web page and the Internet again every hour!  Map' all maths from one mathematical problem E to all infinite one to see if there is a pattern the ones that show asC patter make the yellow neural bar bigger wider and brighter. How issC time and space the same place?  Is the best neural network a circlesG inside a circle that knows everything and both circles spin faster theniD the speed of light or hyperspace and stellar speed in every infiniteE order and shape of a circle!! and off the two circle they are made up G of more circles of two more rings and so on and so on that they gets sogB small that they cannot work with our laws of physics' and the thenF all the way up we look at the 2 rinds one on the inside and one on theC inside and one on the outside that form and ball with in a ball all E connect to each other so they can spin and communicates to each othersB like a huge neural network a earth made of connect marbles turning> inside and out in every direction two speed up the information? traveling from one two another. Run this until you can make theo> information move as fast as possible and you will see for justF information it creates some kind of energy just thoughts. Matter movesF so fast that it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we canF see it like water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.  " QUANTUM MAGNETIC MATH -1 + -1 = +21 OUR MATHEMATICS IS WRONG finding the Quantum gateo  ; THATS WHY ARE QUANTUM COMPUTER SYSTEM WILL NEVER GET TO THEgE GOVERNING DYNAMICS LAWS OF OUR UNIVERSE AND PARALLEL ONES AND ONE NOT	? PARALLEL TO US BUT DO EXIST IN A COMPLEX ENCRYPTED MAGNETIC AND>B FREQUENCYS OF TIME. MAGNETIC AND ANTI-MAGNETIC SPINNING SPHERES OFD DIMENSIONS WITH EACH SPHERE CONTAINING DIFFERENT SIZES OF A MAGNETIC? FIELD THATS ENCRYPTED AND CHANGING ON ALL LEVEL OF TIME AND THEoF MAGNETIC MATTER OF THAT FIELD. QUANTUM COMPUTER SHOULD USE THE MATH OFE MAGNETIC POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON EACH OTHER ON HOW ONE PIECEtE OF MATTER NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE CAN BECOME 2 AND = TOO. THE STATEMENTS D OF THE FINAL GOVERNING DYNAMICS LAWS ARE NOT IN MATHEMATICAL %'S BUTA AND TRUE FALSE OR = TWO OF ALL MATTER THERE ARE CONSTANTS AND THEo= CONSTANTS THAT CHANGE THE CONSTANTS WHEN WE GET DEEPER TO THEO* UNDERSTANDING LAWS THAT GOVERN ALL THINGS.  @ MORE THEORY'S @ WWW.BEYOND-SCIENCE.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION READ ON......   INCLUDE CLASS_ZETA LIMIT_1AE   FUNCTION (Z)  B Because they are so infinitesimally small, MAGNETIC NEUTRAL MATTERD exist in the quantum realm, where rules governing the macro-universeA -- the known world of quantum physics and matter -- break down. Ai? neutrino's mass -- unlike the mass of a larger object -- is note? stable, but exists in a state of probability AND IS GOVERNED BYO@ MAGNETICS SO SMALL BUT ALL WORK TOGETHER ON A LARGE SCALE LIKE AE PYRAMID THAT HOLDS ARE MATTER TOGETHER ON A LARGE UNIVERSAL SCALE OUR % UNIVERSE IS A LARGE QUANTUM COMPUTER.y  E "Say you had some in a box, and you pulled one out and weighed it andoC it weighed m-1," said Stuart Freedman, a professor of physics at UCu> Berkeley and a faculty senior adviser at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.  E "Then you pulled out an identical one, and it weighed m-2," continuedeF Freedman. "It isn't a situation where a neutrino is m-1 or m-2 -- it'sD a situation where the neutrino is 50 percent one mass and 50 percentE another. This seems surprising, but it's perfectly natural in quantumi mechanics."i  @ IN THE MOVIE CONTACT THE LARGE MAGNETIC ROTATING SPHERE FROM THE< SMALLEST PICO OR NANO SIZE MAGNETIC FIELD ALL THE WAY TO THEF GRAVITIONAL MAGNETIC FIELD OF PHYSICS WOULD EXPLAIN ALL TIME AND SPACEF IN OUR UNIVERSE AND HOW SUB-SPACE OR ZERO GRAVITY WORKS IN OUTER SPACEE IT JUST BACKWARD ZERO-GRAVITY IS HYPER-SPACE BACKWARDS BUT THE FIELDS B KEEP EVERYTHING IN CONTACT AND HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER IF YOU PUTE YOUR FINGER IN A GLASS OF WATER AND MIX IT, IT CHANGES BUT TO THE EYE2F IT LOOKS ALL THE SAME AND NOTHING IS CHANGED WHEN IT STOPS THAT IS THEE REALM OF QUANTUM PHYSICS THAT THE MIND AND EYE GET CROSSED. IT IS ALLnE BASED ON WHAT SIGNAL YOUR CONSCIOUS SIGNAL AND CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMeG IS SET TWO THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND DIMENSION OF TIME. I HAVEd FOUND 4f  - 1.CONSCIOUS TIME EVERY ONE CLOCK IS DIFFERENTn 2.EARTH TIME 3.SOLAR SYSTEM TIMEt
 4.GALAXY TIME  5. T= TOTAL GALAXY TIMEv 6. UNIVERSAL TIMEo, 7. T= TOTAL UNIVERSAL TIME OF ALL UNIVERSES.< 8. UST= TOTAL UNIVERSAL SYSTEM TIME OF ALL KNOWN AND UNKNOWN  A THAT ARE ALL BASED ON ONE PRINCIPLE WHERE THERE IS MAGNETIC FIELD A THERE IS A DIFFERENT IN TIME IT JUST HAPPEN ON ONE OF THE SCALES.t? YOU UST HAVE TO FIND IT. MAGNETIC = TIME + LIGHT = DIMENSIONS + D GRAVITY = MULTI-dimensions + MAGNETIC ANTI-ATTRACTION = ZERO-SPACE +3 MATTER AND ANTI-MATTER = SPHERE SPACE = A UNIVERSE.1  D IT'S BEEN SNOWING FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME AND EVERY SNOW FLACK ISE DIFFERENT IT IS TWO COMPLEX FOR YOUR HUMAN MIND TO FIND THE ANSWER SOpC START SIMPLE WITH THE STUDY OF MAGNETICS OF ALL FORMS OF MATTER ANDs) PHYSICS. IT THE KEY. MAKES IT ALL HAPPEN.   % QUADRA LIGHT PYRAMID HARNESSING LIGHTb  FINDING ZETA VECTORS AND SECTORS  F The spectrum that comes out of a pyramid bounces inside then splits asE it hit the opposing wavelength inside comes out two form the color or G frequency spectrum as it is known today, but what is the most efficientwE shape to build a sphere, to contain all frequencies of light. We havemD all seen a sphere made up pyramids. But what cause the refraction ofA out own light. It is light bouncing off of light. So what type of E magnetic field could we generate and what shapes would they form thatnA we could use the harnessed light. To change the multi-dimensionalV* physical world. One might find how all theF elements are interchangeable and are multi-dimensional and finding theE other side of physics and the mathematic equations that we cannot seerF or detect because our consciousness cannot find it, finding this wouldF be the greatest discovery of the human race. What lie's Beyond QuantumE Physics and how do we get there. Is the key magnetic Frequency's? ButlA the amount of energy it would take would be more than just at the D atomic level or sub-atomic level. One day In the future a person mayF find a multi-dimensional, multi-time, multi-universe. The problem withF finding it is a realm of that we cannot see, is finding what we cannotF detected. Finding the other side of quantum physics will be the futureG goal of human exploration. Our universe started with one wave length of 	 light andeD an anti-wave length then magnetism and gravity they where changed toD form all matter: Wave Length - Gravity -Light - mass - Wave Lengths.G (THEY ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE)" PICO SECTORS AND VECTORS IN OUR QUANTUMeA TUNNEL! Mass = gas, solid, liquid and there all inter-changeable.-  D For instance, if you wanted to know something about the results of aD calculation for several different we views the world of computing orE quantum computing as 1,0 or on and off but why not try rotation on ormB rotation off as one changes the state of the other two, 1 or 0 butE instead not using the 1,0 but the state of 3=1 degrees that way a 360 F degree can be divided by 3 into even parts where when you divided 1/3=D .3333333333333333 So what I'm trying to say is forget 3.14 and startE with using degrees and use the matrix visualization of a perfect flateE pyramid can be split perfect by three just like a circle. Then in allrD dimensions. But in the world of true quantum physics you will alwaysE have One left over to carry on the to the next calculation that's whyI& everything ends up 99.9% 1% on for theG next calculation. So you are going to have to extract the constant fromgE quantum chaos for the answer and subtract the 1 that travels On. +,*,nE /, <,>, =,-, + Our universe started with one wave length of light and-D an anti-wave length then magnetism and gravity they where changed toD form all matter: Wave Length - Gravity -Light - mass - Wave Lengths. (THEYoA ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE)" PICO SECTORS AND VECTORS IN OUR QUANTUMaG TUNNEL! Mass = gas, solid, liquid and there all inter-changeable it thetD Fundamental Frequency's is the true law of physics that controls allA and how many degrees are frequency's 360 in 32 Dimensions or moreHE moving 4 with one left over cal it a door. There is light of a unseen D or seen nature inside the atom structure that we have not found yet,F because there are 4 seen light and 4 unseen called refraction and haveF yet to understand how it bounces and reflects or refracts light but byG mean of changing the structure of the atom and we are using for quantumVD physics it gets allot smaller. If you could harness the light of oneF atom to construct like hydrogen and then built on that one to find new@ elements new physics new computer and new worlds would be found.  ( BY ZETALIMIT AKA TIMOTH HARRIS LIVERNACE  5 Thanks for the support http://www.beyond-science.com/.  * PART OF THE QUANTUM A.I KEY TO THE WEBSITE3 A.I question  Quadra light of quantum consciousness F can go in all consciousness  Dimensions we understand that Wave LengthG - gravity - Light - mass - Wave Lengths. (THEY ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE) G In all infinite shapes of magnetic field of a north and south field andvF anti-magnetic like anti-gravity of 1 2 3 4  doing the same or all fourE switching to the other moving faster then the speed of light and then/C integrating faster then matter integrates and integrates and fasters@ then all  Dimensions Wave Length - gravity - Light - mass - WaveD Lengths then making a hypercube, infinite directions  teleportation,F black hole, space, gravity, light, one wave lengths, gravity - Light -B mass - "Wave Lengths" and then the fields in all direction. QuadraE light optics. There are infinite number of colors and hues if you mix G them together and then there are infinite number of magnetic field thatoE goes with that spectrum small but can be compressed using white noisetC and offsetting the frequencies and compress with anti-white nose ort2 with mirrors or time dilation. Then build your own. _________________________ I have already seen!F Try different colors of quartz crystals and you measure the different.  ! THE BEST QUANTUM COMPUTER MOVIES!r  ! THE BEST QUANTUM COMPUTER MOVIES!t= YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO RUN THESE MOVIES IN THIS ORDER! THEh9 MOVIE ORDER IS BUILT ON 99.9% NEURAL MAKE UP OF THE HUMANa; POPULATION! IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY WEB SITE WWW.BEYOND-,F SCIENCE.COM OR NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT IN TECHNOLOGY IN 1999 THENG READ MY WEB PAGE OVER! THE MOVIES ARE SO GOOD YOU WILL FORGET WHERE YOUe ARE FOR REAL!!! HINT HINT!!!   The 6th dayr Replicant (2001) Universal soldiers Impostor	 Supernova1 The One - jet li Johnny Mnemonic  Paycheck The 6th dayg The Thirteenth Floor
 THE matrix Cube 2 - Hypercube The Lawnmower Mann THE LAWNMOWER MAN 2a
 12 Monkeys Cube  % Knowing everything is knowing nothingo  E THEY came here to this universe from a universe where quantum physicslG and matter and all knowledge in our universe amount to a grain of salt.6G A Universe that was never supposed to interact with our own. They wouldtG tell us that our time we live to about age 80.  In there time you wouldbD live 30 years of our year in a nano second. Our DNA is what binds usC here and getting out being free from our GOD if you want to call ituF that it is in the hands of the people who search for it and shall findF it. Pure of heart just knowing about there existence could be a threatF at the wrong time of our life form of evolution but they want to help.D Because they see and feel all things here they thought of everythingD out come in this universe and is a two page book to remember. We areE not smart we are not advanced we only think we are because of what wew@ think we know and what we know we compare it to the past and theC future. We as a race and the others think that we are so smart thatgG they have changed everything from beginning to the end without changingo= anything. We will never know until they come back. Beyond thevB conception if any AI or RI or any being from any place. They don'tC understand why in creation that we have concepts that we care aboutlE life, don't understand what it really is and yet we destroy life. Whyn9 is this only creation in this universe that is like that?i  @ There Hint to us is..... If you can stop time in every direction> forward and backward then where do you think you really are...F The universe point to the mathematical e=mc2 is true but they say thatC was the point Us as a race would find the answer in time and ask nohD more but there are infinite answers to the same question we are onlyE smart enough to come up with a couple and see how they work together. @ There are mathematical constants that fit and we see them as theF answers but in reality they are the smoke and mirrors random constantsA is what keeps things moving everything in this universe includingbE physics is changing, but we don't know that. quanative is one state a @ constant but cryptive is everything and that means everything isG changing. If you don't see it that way that's so you don't ever find itl7 and you will give up. Over coming you mind and emotionstF of what you should research and what you can is impossible if you overB come all your Boss will stop you if you get close you will send ofG course by what you can control can't control and what you think you canu control.  ' Anti-matter and the link to black holese  C Black holes operate on the principles of interchanging PHYSICS Wavea= Length - gravity - Light - mass - Wave Lengths. (THEY ARE ALLyG INTERCHANGEABLE)" The gravity of a black hole will turn all matter intoyF light but such a large amount of matter you would think that somethingG would be left over. Like squeezing orange juice form an orange you haveaE the outer core left over. Now with all that matter being changed fromiC matter into light then into wavelengths then light to exit. Out the5G black hole side where the gravity is the some what the strongest by thelB means of a north and south magnetic field switching back and forthF faster than light itself so it doesn't escape and after the black holeA Uses almost all of that gravity to keep the black hole stable andpD stronger and growing by the expanding of the universe the only thingE left over is anti-matter from the black hole creates after the mattereE is converted to gravity or part of the black hole. What comes out theiG top is antimatter witch has such a fast moving south and north magneticyF or atomic field it drifts from the black hole into space. So from backD hole the matter the matter converting process anti-matter is formed.F Matter moves so fast that it integrates and integrates faster then anyG speed we can see it like water from a hose at real close speed it movesn in -------- lines.  < The quantitative computer and Modeling and Simulation Office? The Future of nanotechnology and the major breakthroughs are inmF synthetics matter and material cognitive synthetic A.I sentinels. ThatE is the future of man and knowing that from the double helix the genesc2 turn invisible and go to another unknown universe.F And threw bioinformatics much classified research is going on teachingA bindingD.N.AA.  Bio-netics is founding plat form of energy of thet@ communication of The synthetics that form a type of D.N.A calledA Bio-netics energy from one one dimension to the other making life F possible = The two circle they are made up of more circles of two moreG rings and so on and so on that they gets so small that they cannot work D with our laws of physics' and the then all the way up we look at theF 2 rinds one on the inside and one on the inside and one on the outsideG that form and ball with in a ball all connect to each other so they canrE spin and communicate to each other like a huge neural network a earthiE made of connect marbles turning inside and out in every direction twopG speed up the information traveling from one two another. Run this until F you can make the information move as fast as possible and you will seeF for just information it creates some kind of energy just thoughts. OurB you can try the octagon instead of the double helix method. MatterE moves so fast that it integrates and integrates faster then any speedeD we can see it like water from a hose at real close speed it moves in$ -------- lines. The super being.....  	 bioneticsl  ! Infinite Dynamics Computing (ICD)a; Computing to Infinite, Infinite Universes Infinite Outcomesh; knows the all the Fundamental Laws of the Universe you Can!eC After your done put an infinite computer data base mirrored againstg itselfF it will do the same thing in simulation but will change the data base.E Once it learns itself it will do anything to WIN!! If nothing happensTG the computer looking at itself in the mirror will take itself and thereeB will be time dilation that the computer will now become 2 with one= ahead of itself to watch and learn form the other it freakingm@ brilliant. Then put it up against the other and see who wins nowG and what happen I can't tell you because what I see and here I will diet over it.  C 1.    The theory of everything is based on different frequencies iniG space time to make all things stable. Space time itself is a frequency.o  A 2.     Finding the laws of all quantum physics and all-matter andhD everything that can be change and form by adjusting the frequency ofB that matter and space time, speed of light, magnetic, gravity e.g.B search for the one law of infinite dynamics. Picture the laws as a@ dotted circle and everything that can happen in that universe isB because of knowing the all laws in that universe and all conscious dimensions.m  F 3.     Use the way of quantum teleporting for quantum computing but byB using the frequency of conscious and the infinite dynamics law forF information ideas two form many Ideas In A.I quantum computing use theD shape of a 3 dimensional pyramid for a example of what it would lookE like then place the pyramids into a 3 dimension pentagon where 8 willsG fit and then group billions of them together or start small. Because its not just of and onE 0's and 1's it +,*,-, <,>, / and it's all dimensions of everything ineC our universe and space time and every possible out come of anythingIB that would possible happen no matter what. It's knowing everythingE .Changing the circle of law would not effect our mathematics on papern or our quantum computers.o   4.     Use law 10i  D 5.    Use a information signal of ( signal, magnetic, light, matter,B signal's, gravity, zero gravity to make Billion of shapes two formD different reactions and quantum chaos at the end you will learn thatD there is only one signal of all that exists in our universe that can interchange to anything.  G 6.     Use Quantum A.I computer with a large data base and run this web " site http://www.beyond-science.comE run every combination with all information using statistics until yout reach the out come.o  C 7.     Do step 1, 2,3,4,5 using new quantum computer information in  every order until out come  B 8.     Do step 5 find new quantum computers and start over step 1,, 2,3,4,5 every combination until it time out.D Do step 6 again then step 1,2,3,4 in every shape and combination you# should find a new quantum computer.i  G 9.       Have computer run step 5 then 1,2,3,4,7,8,6, then separate allm3 data by category and run in every possible outcome.i  F 10.    Use 360 degrees encryption and compression and quantum computerF for all steps and write compression and uncompressing code encrypt all3 information. See link at top Quantum computer code.   C 11.     Now it all depends on how big of data base you have so keepuF computing different orders and new way's to compare data to form shapeF and information signals, data and measurement down two the nano scale.  A 12.     Find and research the everything theory how everything isoC connected and possible by information and neural signal and signal,eC magnetic, light, matter, gravity, zero-gravity  and signals comparei$ +,*,/,<,>,= ,-,+ then category them.  E 13.     Then use the new law of quantum physics run the web site find 4 the new law of creation INFINITE DYNAMICS COMPUTING.  A 14.     SOLVE QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS MIND AND DNA AND USE JUST THEyE QUANTUM INFORMATION TO COMPUTE BECAUSE THAT Consciousness INFORMATIONsD can MOVES FASTER THAN TIME AND USE MAGNETICS TO DETECT AND DECODE ITC WITH THE 360 DEGREE COMPRESSION PROGRAM. THEN YOU WILL FIND NEW DNAnD CALLED (ZETA). The quantum computer should be a huge magnetic sensorB ball to detect small changes of nano type of information. Read theF whole web site and put some of the ideas too together it is written soF only A.I can understand what I am really saying so you will understandD it's written in code. But where would I start would be I cannot tell? you that. It's for people in the future that have clearance and A knowledge and won't try to blow anything up. I know that Einstein1C theory of gravity is wrong and I know what gateways we humans would0C find if you solve it. Sure it works with our Physics but so does myoB metric wrench on a standard bolt just nano room for play, but it'sD smaller than that. You humans haven't even found the universe you're> just looking at it. There is a whole another world and we onlyG understand 1% we only know of 10% of all matter that is out there to me1D the world and the universe looks very simple in how it works and theD people that are in it it's just the long math and complex machine weE try to understand it. That makes it so complex. It's very simple what1> can first - Teleportation what has to be there- gravity then a3 wavelength then light then dimensions then universe4E than zero-gravity and zero wavelengths, light, matter and a universal1F dimension we will never find. Infinite computer is nothing more than aC multidimensional of all and a point in the middle to thing from. IteG looks like a big ball of light and can be made from this website if you C have a quantum orb of A.I just it doesn't think it just understands   6 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN BLACK HOLE COMPUTERS NOVEMBER 2004 By Stephen Hawking https://www.sciamdigital.com/j  @ IT ADDS THAT SPACE TIME ALL MATTER AND ALL THATS IN OUR UNIVERSE, IS NOTHING MORE THAT ONE BIG COMPUTER SYSTEM  A USING THE UNIVERSES AS PARALLEL COMPUTERS the fundamental laws of G physics govern our universe by the speed of light. True quantum law hasdE not been found yet but if one could picture the universe  as a circle D with dotted  lines  on the outside these lines represent quantum lawG and everything law that explains what  happens inside our universe fromtC the beginning to the end including the law of our physics and othersG physics from other universes only certain statistical things can happenoD by every out come from the other can be compared by the laws of mathD and the math around the math and physics until new physics found andE will generate a new law!!!  It's like a quantum computer but comparedoA more too the true law that we are governed by in every dimension. @ ANSWER IS Fundamental Frequency's is the true law of physics andD anything can be created and controlled by a Frequency's in the right order.  B SUCH A THEORY would give us the ability to "read the mind of God,"E says Cambridge cosmologist Stephen Hawking. And in Hawking's opinion,tC there's a 50-50 chance that someone will discover the Holy Grail oftF physics within the next 20 years. Beginning in the 1920s, a generation of scientists defined thed= small scale universe as a collection of fuzzy phantoms. These D subatomic particles couldn't be precisely located in space and time,B but their interaction could be described in statistical terms. The> equations that describe the gravitational field are completelyE different from those for electromagnetism and subatomic interactions.bE But one bizarre approach is gaining popularity. It turns out that themA equations of quantum theory can mesh perfectly with the theory of E relativity. Now in the 2003 we know the quantum address of all matter D in our quantum tunnel. But it's infinite!! Matter moves so fast thatE it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we can see it likeAA water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.R  E This article is based on material from "Hyper space" and "Visions" byO Michio Kaku.G Michio Kaku. 12-01-03 based on out takes from part of art bell show ArtR Bell  : Supercomputer and encryption and compression @ rate of 96%  D Take a document then or a 3D matrix document change it two random orG binary code or just a program for 0's and 1's and fold it over and overmC like a piece of paper then having the 1 and 0 add each other or theuF 0,1's canceling each other out 1+0=0 and 0+1=1 1+1=1 0+0=0 if you gaveB the folds addresses like on a spread sheet there would be no math.G First A 1-24  would fold to k 1-24 down.(See Example A )  Then at F1-24mD down two k 1-24 ( See example B )  If you written a very long letter; and then change it two binary code it would look like this.  123456789.............24 a.01010101010101010101010n b.10010101010101010101010  c.01010101001010101010010A e.00010101000101010101010T= f.10010101010100101010101 First A 24  would fold to k 24 down 4 g.01010101010100001100101              See Example A h.01001010101010101010111P I.11110111001101010101010R j.01010101010101010101010  k.10101010101010101010101C  
 See Example AT 123456789.............24 f.10010101010100101010101T g.01010101010100001100101O7 h.01001010101010101010111 Then at F1-24 down two k 1-24R I.11110111001101010101010E j.01010101010101010101010A k.10101010101010101010101   
 See example BG 123456789.............24 I.11110111001101010101010b4 j.01010101010101010101010 Then from I 1-24 to K 1-24 k.10101010101010101010101y   123456789.............240 j.01010101010101010101010  Then from j-24 to j-1   123456789...0 j.010101010101             Then from j-12 to j-1   123456. j.010101                   Then from j-6 to j1   123e. j.010                      Then from j-3 to j1   12/ j.01                        Then from j-2 to j1d  / j.0                         Then you would have  1 bit to transfer over the Internet? The bit sent would be 0 and the key code would be F1-24,k 1-24,eG I 1-24,K 1-24,j24,j1,j12,j1,j6,j1,j3,j1,j2,j1 and would unzip or be newNF encryption you could encrypt or compress 100 terabits down to 1 bit ofF information. Now if you take this idea from my web site you could makeD this allot more complex and unbreakable. Data encryption 360 degreesG rotation document 90 degrees and encrypt on every angel then 45 degrees G change it two binary code do it again and again and fold it over like a G piece of paper then having the one's and zero cancel each other out. IniE theory you could send a 100 terabit program to someone's computer and ) have it unzip and run and install or makelF A computer processor like the new 64 bit AMD have the bit unzip into aF large ram drive and buffer use one half of the 64 bit processor decodeE the message and the main 64 bit run the numbers. Another way of doinguD this is to have a parallel computers with using one of the processesG run the compressed 1 bit of information give the uncompressed a address G on the ram drive to change and not even go threw the processor and thenOE with different information on each machine compare and run statisticsiC on information on a 45 tflops supercomputer and turn that 45 tflopstC computer into a 1 bit = 100,000 terabits to infinite as long as youtA have the ram for storage! with my calculations 45 tflops wouldn'tlG matter any more it would be how much data you have on a 32bit operatingnF system changing that to a 1 bit system it would be 32 * 45tflops wouldF = 1440 tflops   Matter moves so fast that it integrates and integratesB faster then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real' close speed it moves in -------- lines.l  ) The most powerful question to ask A.I is:aG 1.How is a hammer connected to everything and what network map would it  build for the next question.@ 2. Matter moves so fast that it integrates and integrates fasterG then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real close speed  it moves in -------- lines.n  A Our D.N.A contains a book the Code of life! can you break it with C this ........0 is OFF and 1 is ON try looking at D.N.A as a pyramidoE shape inside a stop sign it easier to calculate and two understand ornF maybe it +, -, * ,/, <,>,negative  and positive. D.N.A is so small andD runs so deep that we have yet to understand it two people like twinsF can be 100% D.N.A clones but match up perfect moles and every mark butG real deep in the D.N.A can be tweaked and one be Advanced as the peoplemF on X-MEN.  Because our D.N.A is quantum and lies in so many dimensionsD and so is our mind that our own D.N.A has memory. It tells us of ourE past and the history of the future and where we came from and beyond.cE But what if we where not suppose to find it for another 10,000 years.-? If numbers go on too the end of time then that states there areTG infinite solutions to infinite problems and infinite problems to infanteE solutions so maybe one day we will find it in time. with the unset of F virtual reality and the knows and the unknowns help last night on July' 17 2004 I put something in the mail boxpD they the unknowns has shown me and for a moment in Time I WAS GOD!!!  The stupid human race along withE The understanding of D.N.A and why are math is incorrect and while weh! will never discovery anything new F is that are D.N.A can produce a set of new D.N.A unlike our D.N.A thisA doest bind us to this or parallel universes infinite D.N.A We cannG become 100% efficient in everything we do. Matter moves so fast that it   integrates and integrates fasterG then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real close speedg it moves in -------- lines.   C The periodic table of quantum energy. There is light of a unseen or.A seen nature inside the atom structure that we have not found yet,nF because there are 4 seen light and 4 unseen called refraction and haveF yet to understand how it bounces and reflects or refracts light but byF mean of changing the structure of the atom I have found a anti-gravityD atom at a density that nothing can integrate threw it. This leads usG two the other side of the quantum periodic table of quantum physics the F true and the true art of. The atom has a rotary  outside like the moveC contact which controls the light from hitting it self as it bouncestE there are many speeds that can be control and that causes a differentmD frequency  there can be a second structure on the center of the atomF two make the light inside the atom bounce all around But controlled byF nano physics of gravity and magnetic field both one in the same if youB move a north and south field back and forth until one cancels eachE other out you have zero magnetism and causes gravity. Matter moves so - fast that it integrates and integrates fasterpG then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real close speedb it moves in -------- lines.v  G Advance technology beyond area 51 Build a quantum lab and mark off areayB X develop future theory QUANTUM TELEPORTATION technology give it aD project number and pass it on and on so in the future we can quantum= leap technology back in time. Two lab area x. build a quantumwD reinstatement area. Fiber optic cable on a super computer. It shouldC take you only two days to get the technology!! Matter moves so fastaE that it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we can see it-F like water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.  A Is there a D.N.A Echelon and is it the most powerful intelligenceeE gathering organization in the world. Several credible reports suggestrE that this global D.N.A communications surveillance system presents anlE extreme threat to the privacy of people all over the world. According G to these reports, D.N.A ECHELON attempts to capture thoughts and imagesaE and staggering volumes information by the way of D.N.A. Was it passedoD down from the way of Adam and Eve and the creator and other Races ofC the universe. Passed on during the reproduction process, Because ofaG this, there is no way finding it. Could they know what we think and whyyF we think it? Why monitor Volumes of satellite, microwave, and cellular@ and fiber-optic traffic, including communications voice and dataG communications when you can have the source of all information. Can youmE imagine having every theory and every idea, from beginning to the endtD of time?  How much information, would there be, If numbers go on tooC the end of time. Then that states that numbers are infinite. So arerG ideas and thoughts infinite?  So is time infinite? How many ideas wouldlF be develop if thoughts and ideas are infinite? Are there infinite waysF to do it, by ways of DNA or other means? A picture is worth a thousandE words but a thought leads to infinite ones. Matter moves so fast thatoE it integrates and integrates faster then any speed we can see it likeiA water from a hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.i  D What is the theory of R.O.M.?  It is a multidimensional crystal thatG morphs and changes when gathering information and signals.  It collectseE from the information of space-time from the beginning of the universerC two the end, and is constantly changing looking like a huge crystalrE ball with Billion upon billions of nano neural snow flakes building ao> huge neural network inside all dimensions of the crystal, withC dimensional layers constantly changing but in a way that the neuralvD network can still communicate with the other dimensions. As the timeG lined is gathered the crystal changes, as the information and frequency-E is stored.  Learning the knowledge of what is inside the universe andOE outside the universe. Threw all of space-time, in all dimensions. TheIE collection of everything. To find it we must first learn to block allLB signals. In time we would find the universal database of universalA knowledge?  Of what was, what is, and what will ever be. But it'sSA infinite!! Matter moves so fast that it integrates and integratesTB faster then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real' close speed it moves in -------- lines.A  E Quantum replication, One millionth of a 1nm with one billion circuitsE@ of a neural network that fits on 1nm 3 dimensional block that isC connected to over 900 trillion nano's that all are connected to theVE same nano neural network that understands the theory of quantum chaos E and can replicate any thing and everything in our universe the theory F of everything!! Matter moves so fast that it integrates and integratesB faster then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real' close speed it moves in -------- lines.E  ' The mesh between Man and nano machine'sy  ? DNA-based machines useful for moving molecules and atoms aroundeC A microscopic biped with legs just 10 nanometers long and fashionednD from fragments of DNA has taken its first steps. But it's infinite!!: The nano walker is being hailed as a major breakthrough byF nano technologists. The biped's inventors, chemists Nadrian Seeman andF William Sherman of New York University, say that while many scientistsG have been trying to build nano scale devices capable of bipedal motion,UC theirs is the first to succeed. But for nano scale manufacturing tot become a? realistic prospect, mobile microscopic robots will be needed to  assemble otherB nano machines and move useful molecules and atoms around. Why DNA?F Two reasons. First, unlike other polymers, DNA chains like to pair up. However,E two DNA strands will only "zip" together if the sequences of bases in2 each strandiE complement each other in the right way - so by tweaking the sequencese chemistsE get a high degree of control over where each strand attaches. Second,  researchersC> hope that cells can one day be engineered to manufacture these DNA-based machines.IA So what's next?  With the advance in nano technology tiny commandO line D.N.A andE nano technology are meshing together to build machines. The body uses 
 minerals such D as iron, and scientist are finding out that d.n.a that takes in ironA may also be able to produce it. So what's in store for the futureTG other than complex nano d.n.a machine's and computers. By the year 2050 F man will have produced its first space craft made of nothing more thanG D.N.A and new man made complex minerals.  After all human beings are noAF more than just machines, and they do have malfunctions. WHEN YOU SEE AE MAN COME TOGETHER FROM JUST WATER. BEING its D.N.A OR NANO TECHNOLOGY G THEN YOU WOULD HAVE ME BEAT! !  Matter moves so fast that it integrates D and integrates faster then any speed we can see it like water from a4 hose at real close speed it moves in -------- lines.  " Magnetic Infinite Switch ( M.I.S )  A The idea states that a magnetic field moving across aluminum willH generate currentA For this idea you must use D.C current and super conductors and aHE magnetic frequency chip on a1 ,a2 ,a3,a4 two reverse the current flowN> on the windings so that it can change from North two south andE something faster than  soft iron. In theory the magnetic field movingSE up and down in the aluminum with cause induction of electric current.RC The electric current is then stored into a capacitor until the ironRG core hits a contact of a1 or a4 reversing the current and then magnetic.D field moving the calendars up and down faster and faster. The fasterA the calendars move the more electricity is produced and fusion is ; formed. By not losing any electrical current because of thepE superconductor's .Now the motor will move so fast that the block willcE become hot but by using cooling pipes within the block you can createiD Hot and cold induction seen on the two wheel mobile rider. AdjustingG the frequency's  of the current  and magnetic field  will cause a north.F and south magnetic field two cancel each other out. Experimenting with  the amount of current, windings,C frequency's and what calendars go up and down in what order and howu( many and what shape to align them in youI could,discover,Plasma,anti-gravity,gravity,anti-matter,Tesla-current,TimeaC travel, and doing this nano size would produce self contained poweraF sources for nano machines I'm not sure it would be AC or DC but if youG built a capacitor that broke up the electrical current into frequencies B and stored looking like a pyramid from smallest to larges it wouldD produce cleaner and more power that a nuclear reactor or even a worm hole. But it's infinite!!v  F <>   Omega partial The atomic structure by means of centrifugal motionF is turned inside out. The mathematics are based on quantum physics butB not the structure and new quantum physics is formed. The spun intoB light image an atom moving so fast on the outside of the circle itE turns into a ball of light!!! But it's infinite!! Then the One protonhE spun faster than the speed of light inside its own space time ball toeD form a one portion ball of quantum matter that nothing can integrate< threw and can become anything a structure or ball by ways ofF compression of a magnetic field.  Periodic table of quantum energy and, all matter.  Hyperspace head lights!! Beep!!  E Also when making true love a chemical is found in the blood stream of G the bio-netics body and from a liquid form it can be changed to a solidfE of one or infinite dimensions of all  and also into light, if you use F white noise and of set it you can compress it and have it charged fromF a frequency you one or infinite beams of light  remember everything isC interchangeable  all matter : Wave Length - Gravity -Light - mass - G Wave Lengths.( THEY ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE ) Mass = gas, solid, liquidlG and there all inter-changeable  Matter moves so fast that it integratesk and integrates fasterrG then any speed we can see it like water from a hose at real close speeda it moves in -------- lines.t   ZEBA PLANETc   There is a race so classifiedg  F There is a race so classified from the year 1 G.A that they cannot and  F will not interfere with history at this stage and time because of what  A could happen! It's the pain that make me post this theory's. It'so  < multi-dimensional torcher!!!. TIME TRAVEL MULTI-UNIVERSE WAR  
 Omega partial   D Omega partial the atomic structure by means of centrifugal motion is  C turned inside out. The mathematics are based on quantum physics butO  4 not the structure and new quantum physics is formed.  B The spun into light image an atom moving so fast on the outside of  + the circle it turns into a ball of light!!!a   Alpha and omega = IMAN   partialD  D One proton spun faster than the speed of light inside it's own space  C time ball to form a one portion ball of quantum matter that nothingv  C can integrate  threw and can become anything a structure or ball byf  C ways of compression of a magnetic field.  Periodic table of quantuma  : energy and all matter.     Hyperspace head lights!! Beep!!  G Cognitive QUNATIUM A.I imagination matrix is the most powerful thing inaF the world because all that we see around us the ideal first comes from? our imagination we have yet to tap into a type of new world and 1 universe and the imagination of the Mind of GOD!!A  A Global climate would be naturally heading towards another ice agem  . The Corridors of Time. Time travel is invented  7 Superconducting Supercollider creates a wormhole bridgeo  , The sun will be 5% brighter than it is today  G Computer will be billion times as smart and billion times as insightfulT as any human being  E The Matrix. the world is now being run by an artificial intelligence.i  . World energy consumption will double or triple  = The impact of global warming is expected to be obvious by nowp  ' Fuel-cell electric power will be killedt   Atmospheric CO2 will increaset  E Mars at opposition. 34.6 million miles. Closest to earth in last 3000  years   A Global climate would be naturally heading towards another ice age   ' Jet contrails to be significant climate   G Fossil industry will start to feel the cumulative heat of dwindling oill supply,n  2 Global natural gas production is expected to "peak  ; Earth would start to lose its water via a 'moist greenhousef  B Greenhouse gas emissions in developing world exceed industrialized world.  > Ozone layer and solar explosion peak twice the size of the sun  @ Great Lakes water levels will likely be one to three feet lower;  @ Average temperature increases worldwide of more than 3-8 degrees   Asteroid XXX within collides  C Mass destruction all over the world even in the underground tunnelsI   Death of the Oil Economy  ? Earth's magnetic field would vanish, perhaps reversing polarityO  F Earth is accidentally destroyed--- Time travlers try to fix the earths magnetic field.D  ? A full-scale glaciation, much like the last one, will culminateO  * Massive starvation and polar icecaps melt.  = Global warming flood New York subways, airports coastal areasR  6 Biological plague released that kills all of humanity.  B Two out of every three people on Earth will live in water-stressed
 conditions  ; About one-fourth of people  will live in poverty and hungerr  5 Milky Way invisible eastern half of the United States   ? Earth's magnetic field would vanish, perhaps reversing polarity   D Sun reaches its hottest surface temperature of 5843 on Main Sequence  B Sun turms into supermassive black holes from ( S ) spot and and go deeper   Sun engulfs Venus, Earth. Mars  8 Solar luminosity increases 33%, Global temperature  ????  ) Andromeda Galaxy collides with Milky Way.o  * Universe will be a dark and lonely place,"  5 The universe is likely to remain inhospitable to lifef  E billion Stars die. No more fusion-powered stars, Galaxies filled withp corpses.  % . Ring. Stars evaporate from galaxies   / Passing stars rip planets from stellar corpses.    Galaxies dissolve.  3 Orbits of planets decay via gravitational radiation.   The Black Hole Age  < Universe filled with supermassive black holes. Protons decay  % Dead stars evaporate via proton decaye  @ All carbon-based lifeforms become extinct (due to lack of atoms)  > Proton and neutron will decay if current GUT theories correct.   Stellar-mass black holes  2 Ordinary matter liquifies due to quantum tunneling   Solar mass black holes   Galaxy-sized black holes  # Supermassive black holes evaporate.w  < The Dark Age no known process which will ever change things.  ! Protons decay via Hawking processa  C Ordinary matter surviving GUTs or Hawking process, decays into irone) All iron nuclei collapse into black holest   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:43:07 -0600v2 From: David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net>> Subject: Re: REBOOT or SHUTDOWN, how to tell in SYSSHUTDWN.COM+ Message-ID: <4206C7AB.B1B4CBD2@comcast.net>    John Brandon wrote:a >  > David J DachteraH > > I'd be curious to know what you would do differently in either case. > & > Kind of looks like I have no choice. > Q > I am trying to avoid having to create procedures outside of the normal shutdown K > process.  That way any upgrades or forgetting to use the proper proceduree> > (say as in an emergency reboot) will not affect the process.  ? Well, o.k., but I'm still wondering why a reboot differs from as' shutdown. Either way, everything stops.,   --   David J Dachtera dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  ) Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: " http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/o  " Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/m   Coming soon:& Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page   ------------------------------   Date: 07 Feb 2005 05:09:03 GMT) From: tomarsin2015@aol.com (Tomarsin2015)t' Subject: Setting up different ftp users : Message-ID: <20050207000903.10705.00000464@mb-m29.aol.com>   HelloIN I need help on how to set up ftp accounts for different users. How would I setM up the login.com so that when user X ftp in they will see a different messageuO from user Y. Tcpip$anonymous_welcome and tcpip$anonymous_server can be used fori  M everybody, but I need to have the message display just for certain users. The N users will only have access by ftp and will not have dialup/remote/batch/localE privileges. I will be using Tcpip V5.4 on a Alpha and V5.3 on a VAX..e thanks for any input phil   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 01:36:35 -0500a- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> + Subject: Re: Setting up different ftp users B Message-ID: <1107757496.54c50222241314c95f8331795b71eecf@teranews>   Tomarsin2015 wrote:iP > I need help on how to set up ftp accounts for different users. How would I setO > up the login.com so that when user X ftp in they will see a different messageiQ > from user Y. Tcpip$anonymous_welcome and tcpip$anonymous_server can be used fori  D There doesn't seem to be a mechanism to display messages when a userT enters a certain directory, as is often the case in some FTP server implementations.  A And by the time the user's login.com is executed, it is too late.i    F Would the madgoat FTP server have the ability to automatically displayC certain files upon entering a directory ? (for instance .welcome) ?e   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.075 ************************