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 BACKUP  error  Re: BACKUP  error  Re: BACKUP error' Re: Checking for "file open for write". ' Re: Checking for "file open for write". ' Re: Checking for "file open for write". ' Re: Checking for "file open for write". ' Re: Checking for "file open for write". ' Re: Checking for "file open for write". . Re: Default RMS attributes and DECC and RAT-CR: Re: Ever heard of FAL ceasing to work on a running system?% Extensive mount verification messages  Re: FTP post processing  Re: FTP post processing  Good case for VMS * Re: How to clear device errors w/o reboot?* Re: How to clear device errors w/o reboot?< Re: How to make BACKUP fail instead of making OPCOM request?9 IBM gets it - investing to keep customers and ISV's happy ' IBM's X chipset no longer supports IA64  indexed file with java Re: indexed file with java Re: Install TCPIP 5.4 , Re: LA75 escape sequences and Laser printers, Re: LA75 escape sequences and Laser printers Logfile name Re: Logfile name Re: Logfile name Re: Logfile name3 RE: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to Windows 3 Re: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to Windows 1 Re: Looking for suggestions for bootcamp sessions  no device wsa0: ?  help  Re: no device wsa0: ?  help  Re: no device wsa0: ? help4 OpenVMS Seminar in Toronto (2005-02-24) a few points Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.  Point Secure Re: Point Secure< Python Webware application server succesfully run on OpenVMS Re: Sayonara Tukwilla  Re: Sayonara Tukwilla  Re: Sayonara Tukwilla  Re: Sayonara Tukwilla  Re: Sayonara Tukwilla  Re: Sayonara Tukwilla 	 ssl & osu   Re: There goes the profit center We need XP900 and DS10 systems2 RE: WRQreflection 11: relocate settings directory?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 01:20:49 -0800 From: bhushann@gmail.com Subject: BACKUP  errorC Message-ID: <1109323249.709025.251670@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>    Hi,   '   I am installing a product on Itanium. D While installation is restoring the backup file we get the following error.  6 %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set J ... %BACKUP-E-VBNMISSING, 8 DOGLEG$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSUPD.TEST036]BBBKEYCLI.IA64_EXE;1 ha" s missing blocks 2225 through 63078 %VMSINSTAL-E-NOSAVESET, Save set  J  cannot be restored.  + Could anyone please guide me on this error.    Rgds,  Bhushi   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:04:53 +0100 A From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder.nospam@volkswagen.de>  Subject: Re: BACKUP  error) Message-ID: <cvn0o6$qle5@doiweb4.b2x.vwg>    bhushann@gmail.com wrote:  > Hi,  > ) >   I am installing a product on Itanium. F > While installation is restoring the backup file we get the following > error. > 8 > %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set J ... > %BACKUP-E-VBNMISSING, : > DOGLEG$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSUPD.TEST036]BBBKEYCLI.IA64_EXE;1 ha$ > s missing blocks 2225 through 6307: > %VMSINSTAL-E-NOSAVESET, Save set  J  cannot be restored. > - > Could anyone please guide me on this error.  >  > Rgds,  > Bhushi >   G It seems your backup saveset TEST036.J is corrupt. Try getting again...   	 mfg Kalle    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 03:27:56 -0800 From: bhushann@gmail.com Subject: Re: BACKUP error B Message-ID: <1109330876.036945.79990@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   Thanks for the immediate reply.   & I founf the problem with the save_set.F The save set was not build properly due to insufficient space on disk.   Rgds,  Bhushan      Karl Rohwedder wrote:  > bhushann@gmail.com wrote:  > > Hi,  > > + > >   I am installing a product on Itanium. > > > While installation is restoring the backup file we get the	 following 
 > > error. > > : > > %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set J ... > > %BACKUP-E-VBNMISSING, < > > DOGLEG$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSUPD.TEST036]BBBKEYCLI.IA64_EXE;1 ha& > > s missing blocks 2225 through 6307< > > %VMSINSTAL-E-NOSAVESET, Save set  J  cannot be restored. > > / > > Could anyone please guide me on this error.  > > 	 > > Rgds, 
 > > Bhushi > >  > @ > It seems your backup saveset TEST036.J is corrupt. Try getting again... >  > mfg Kalle    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:33:08 GMT   From: John Santos <john@egh.com>0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write".* Message-ID: <8pBTd.52899$Dc.8023@trnddc06>   Richard Maher wrote: > Hi Jan-Erik, > K > This solution (that I'm sure you already know about) is not as elegant as N > System Programming a pseudo file access. But then you're *polling* so whadda > you care? Peasant :-)  > I > You could FTP an additional "trigger" file to the destination directory K > after all the other files have been successfully copied and then look for G > filename.TRIG (or some such). Or you could have a AAAfile.START and a  > ZZZfile.END copied over?  F I've used this method (and the rename method that someone mentioned inE another followup), and both work great at first, but something always - seems to happen eventually to mess things up.   B Like someone on the sending side forgets why they need to send twoD files, and starts sending the small "trigger" file 1st.  Arrggghhhh!  A The solution, of course, is to read the docs.  "What docs?"  "The A docs we sent you when we defined the interface."  "Oh, I've never B seen them."  "Okay, here's another copy."  Wait 6 months.  Lather. Repeat.  :-<  C I was also convinced at one time that someone had an optimizing FTP D client that sent multiple files at the same time, and of course, theA tiny trigger file got sent much quicker than the large data file. & This theory was never proved, however.  B The problem with the rename method is someone says "Must have been? a problem with that grotty old VMS FTP client.  Well, I've just C tried it and it seems to accept the file just fine with the correct C name, so I'll save a step in the transfer by doing the send and the  rename all at the same time."   @ The problem with both these scenarios is no one notices until byD bad timing, the file gets processed before it is completely receivedG and a lot of the time the damage is subtle.  (It might be worth putting D a checksum on the file or zipping it, etc. just to make this kind ofC thing detectable.  Does UNZIP abort noisily if its input file isn't ? complete, or just quietly stop wherever it happens to hit EOF?)   M > Anyway, I just thought I'd mention the KISS solution in case someone hadn't G > heard of it. I personally, would much prefer the answer that you were M > originally looking for, but with the variations for cluster/single-node and H > all the other complexities, I've always put it in the too-hard basket.  E Someone once mentioned that some file systems (IBM mainframe O/S'es?) F are capable of triggering a batch job when a file is created, written,F and closed.  I think the resulting batch job can determine if the fileF was closed normally (i.e. received successfully) or not (remote systemE or program crashed in the middle or the network died and the protocol 9 timed out.)  Sort of like the old RSX file deaccess lock.   F I wonder if something like this could be hooked into the ACP's lockingD system or RMS or possibly by defining a default ACE on the receivingD directory that would propagate to files created in the directory and@ trigger an alarm on file close that could be monitored by a user program?   >  > Cheers Richard.  > 5 > "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message # > news:421C4EDC.61114EDC@aaa.com...  >  >>Hi.  >>0 >>(Sorry, but this is purily techinical... :-) ) >>D >>I'm looking for a method to "see" that a file is opened for write.9 >>I have a polling batch job that looks for FTP'ed files. B >>I have to detect if the file is still opened by the FTP session.< >>I know about detecting this by trying an operation such as: >>OPEN on the file and catching the error, but I'm looking: >>for something a little more "correct", such as a lexical >>or something.  >> >>Any thoughts ? >> >>Jan-Erik.  >  >  >      --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:54:59 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write"., Message-ID: <388av8F5dcr3qU1@individual.net>   John Santos wrote:   > Richard Maher wrote: >  >> Hi Jan-Erik,  >>L >> This solution (that I'm sure you already know about) is not as elegant asI >> System Programming a pseudo file access. But then you're *polling* so  	 >> whadda  >> you care? Peasant :-) >>J >> You could FTP an additional "trigger" file to the destination directoryL >> after all the other files have been successfully copied and then look forH >> filename.TRIG (or some such). Or you could have a AAAfile.START and a >> ZZZfile.END copied over?  >  > H > I've used this method (and the rename method that someone mentioned inG > another followup), and both work great at first, but something always / > seems to happen eventually to mess things up.  > D > Like someone on the sending side forgets why they need to send twoF > files, and starts sending the small "trigger" file 1st.  Arrggghhhh! > C > The solution, of course, is to read the docs.  "What docs?"  "The C > docs we sent you when we defined the interface."  "Oh, I've never D > seen them."  "Okay, here's another copy."  Wait 6 months.  Lather. > Repeat.  :-< > E > I was also convinced at one time that someone had an optimizing FTP F > client that sent multiple files at the same time, and of course, theC > tiny trigger file got sent much quicker than the large data file. ( > This theory was never proved, however. > D > The problem with the rename method is someone says "Must have beenA > a problem with that grotty old VMS FTP client.  Well, I've just E > tried it and it seems to accept the file just fine with the correct E > name, so I'll save a step in the transfer by doing the send and the  > rename all at the same time."  > B > The problem with both these scenarios is no one notices until byF > bad timing, the file gets processed before it is completely receivedI > and a lot of the time the damage is subtle.  (It might be worth putting F > a checksum on the file or zipping it, etc. just to make this kind ofE > thing detectable.  Does UNZIP abort noisily if its input file isn't A > complete, or just quietly stop wherever it happens to hit EOF?)  > H >> Anyway, I just thought I'd mention the KISS solution in case someone 	 >> hadn't H >> heard of it. I personally, would much prefer the answer that you were7 >> originally looking for, but with the variations for   >> cluster/single-node andI >> all the other complexities, I've always put it in the too-hard basket.  >  > G > Someone once mentioned that some file systems (IBM mainframe O/S'es?) H > are capable of triggering a batch job when a file is created, written,H > and closed.  I think the resulting batch job can determine if the fileH > was closed normally (i.e. received successfully) or not (remote systemG > or program crashed in the middle or the network died and the protocol ; > timed out.)  Sort of like the old RSX file deaccess lock.  > H > I wonder if something like this could be hooked into the ACP's lockingF > system or RMS or possibly by defining a default ACE on the receivingF > directory that would propagate to files created in the directory andB > trigger an alarm on file close that could be monitored by a user
 > program? >   > I like that idea, and RMS already provides the file attribute H SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE. How to set that attribute on an incoming file I am not / sure, but the following shows the general idea.    X.FDL with something like this:    FILE"          ALLOCATION              2$          BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     yes"          EXTENSION               0(          NAME                    "x.com"+          ORGANIZATION            sequential $          SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE         yes   Now:   $ type x.com  $ write sys$output "Hello world" $ convert x.com * /fdl=x  ! and we get x.log containing this:    $write sys$output "Hello world"  Hello world    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:03:14 +0800  From: prep@prep.synonet.com 0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write".- Message-ID: <87hdk14ibh.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   - Karsten Nyblad <nospam@nospam.nospam> writes:    > Dave Froble wrote:  F >> As far as I know, the file system doesn't know anything about how aF >> file is accessed.  I'm pretty sure that the information you want isD >> contained in the locking system.  To scan the DLM locks, you need? >> CMKRNL, no other option that I'm aware of.  This stuff isn't D >> documented, except in the internals books.  Ok, some of the stuffC >> isn't documented.  There is a system service that can be used to E >> scan the DLM database.  There are several programs on the freeware @ >> and elsewhere that do such.  A search of the archives will be >> helpful.   C > The information on who has the file open is stored in the windows  > control blocks (WCB).   H No, the WCB contains the virtual-physical mapping info. You are thinkingE of the File Control Block. In a cluster, FCBs willonly exist on nodes A that have the file open, so you can't `see' them without at least  one open on the local node.   B >  The file system does know who has the file open for write.  TheF > locks are not normal locks.  After the lock on a file has been takenF > out, the lock is converted into a lock, that is owned by the node ofE > the cluster.  At least in the old days it was not documented how to B > make such a convertion, but the flag is in starlet.  There is noE > reason to scan the lock database your self.  SYS$GETLKI can get the B > information you need.  And you can get the lock id from the fileA > statistics block, which you get using the ACP QIO interface.  I D > dont remember if you need to change to kernel mode before callingF > SYS$GETLKI to get information on kernel mode locks.  Otherwise thereE > is no need for kernel mode code.  You can write a utility that does C > this with a call to SYS$GETLKI as the only code running in kernel  > mode.   B IF you don't mind the corner case of a file opened `no lock', then2 the locks on the file are the way to go for 99.9%.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:58:08 -0800  From: Z <Z@no.spam> 0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write".) Message-ID: <ZgGTd.1319$fB7.746@fe07.lga>    Paul Sture wrote: @ > I like that idea, and RMS already provides the file attribute J > SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE. How to set that attribute on an incoming file I am not 1 > sure, but the following shows the general idea.  > ! > X.FDL with something like this:  >  > FILE# >         ALLOCATION              2 % >         BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     yes # >         EXTENSION               0 ) >         NAME                    "x.com" , >         ORGANIZATION            sequential% >         SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE         yes  >  > Now: >  > $ type x.com" > $ write sys$output "Hello world" > $ convert x.com * /fdl=x > # > and we get x.log containing this:  > ! > $write sys$output "Hello world" 
 > Hello world   ; That sounds like a handy way for malware to execute itself.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:34:12 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write"., Message-ID: <388urlF5n1omoU1@individual.net>   Z wrote: > Paul Sture wrote:  > A >> I like that idea, and RMS already provides the file attribute  G >> SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE. How to set that attribute on an incoming file I am  6 >> not sure, but the following shows the general idea. >>" >> X.FDL with something like this: >> >> FILE $ >>         ALLOCATION              2& >>         BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     yes$ >>         EXTENSION               0* >>         NAME                    "x.com"- >>         ORGANIZATION            sequential & >>         SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE         yes >> >> Now:  >> >> $ type x.com # >> $ write sys$output "Hello world"  >> $ convert x.com * /fdl=x  >>$ >> and we get x.log containing this: >>" >> $write sys$output "Hello world" >> Hello world >  > = > That sounds like a handy way for malware to execute itself.   D Not if the accompanying authorization is done correctly, which makes6 John Santos' suggestion of extending ACLs a nice idea.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:30:11 -0500 ( From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com>0 Subject: Re: Checking for "file open for write"., Message-ID: <421f4501$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  3 "Paul Sture" <paul.sture@decus.ch> wrote in message & news:388av8F5dcr3qU1@individual.net... > John Santos wrote:  J > > I wonder if something like this could be hooked into the ACP's lockingH > > system or RMS or possibly by defining a default ACE on the receivingH > > directory that would propagate to files created in the directory andD > > trigger an alarm on file close that could be monitored by a user > > program?  > Folks have done that. I'm sure there is stuff on the freeware.6 Both with exploiting directory locks and audit events.E But are we not over engineering this? Good simple solutions have been 
 presented.7 I have seen no indication where those solutions lacked. G -  Polling sounded reasonable (how long does the average tranfer take?) H -  transferring with a temp name, and renaming when done is my preferred
 technique.L - Those 'marker' files sound good also. ( A.dat ... realfile.dat ... Z.dat )H - RMS knows how to make an RMS lock. It'll do it for you and not requireG privs: Just try to open and you will learn the state. What's wrong with  that?   ? > I like that idea, and RMS already provides the file attribute  SUBMIT_ON_CLOSE.? > How to set that attribute on an incoming file I am not  sure,   L Right, but that is a 'run time attribute', not a 'file permanent attribute'.L So when FDL parses that command, it will flip a bit in the current fab and a" submit on close will be triggered.J But the program having the file open has to set the bit. You can not use a 'set file' or some such   + > but the following shows the general idea.    reduced to bare-bones:   $ conv/fdl=tt: tt: tmp.com file; submit yes <Exit>
 $show time <exit>     Cheers,  Hein.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:36:00 -0500 ( From: "Hein" <hein.nomail@hp.nomail.com>7 Subject: Re: Default RMS attributes and DECC and RAT-CR * Message-ID: <421f546f@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message< news:1109279874.f10d473e18f9316898b34c8c971e3495@teranews...J > A program uses SYS$CREATE and $PUT to generate data in a file from DECC.G > I use the standard C header for RMS stuff to pre-populate the FAB NAM  > and RAB blocks.  > C > so, if I have FAB myfab = cc$rms_fab ; (same for the rab and nam)  > G > I was susprised to see that the defaults did not include RAT=CR and I  > had to manually set the bit.  , How is RMS to know that RAT=CR is desirable?   > Is this normal ?   Yes.  F > Is there a way to populate the FAB with system defaults instead of C include file defaults ?   , You are getting the system default: Nothing!1 This is not a C artifact. This is just how it is.  For example in Macro: 
 $ cre tmp.mar          .PSECT  data,noexe,wrt FAB:    $FAB    FNM = <TMP.TMP>          .PSECT  code,exe,nowrt         .ENTRY  START, ^M<>          $CREATE FAB=FAB          RET          .END    START   Exit 
 $ macr tmp
 $ link tmp	 $ run tmp  $ dir/full tmp.tmp : & Revised:   25-FEB-2005 11:15:01.36 (1) File organization:  SequentialE Record format:      Variable length, maximum 0 bytes, longest 0 bytes  Record attributes:  None RMS attributes:     None :   J FDL$PARSE, and thus CREATE/FDL indeed applies defaults:  ORG = SEQ,  RAT = CR,  RFM = VAR  4 > does TPU, CREATE etc also manually specify RAT=CR,   The utilities decide.      hth, Hein.    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:23:28 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)C Subject: Re: Ever heard of FAL ceasing to work on a running system? 6 Message-ID: <00A3FE50.4F4DEEAD@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  r In article <1109313699.6cf28189a4024182a740117fb024c406@teranews>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:- >Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote:  > O >> Nope.  At the same time this was going on, the other node that uses the same 6 >> SYSUAF and proxy database didn't have this problem. > @ >And I think you've ruled out some logical name definition to an  >alternate SYSUAF or NET$PROXY ?  I To alternate SYSUAF, yes, because we were able to login with SET HOST.  I J didn't check NET$PROXY.  But neither of the people who have privilege and M know how to define logical names/system defined such a name, and this problem " started happening all of a sudden.   > I >Is it possible you had some logical name that messed up the FAL object ? I > (or someone having messages with the NCP volatile database, which would , >explain why a reboot solved the situation).  J I can't prove that there was no such logical name, but I don't know how itM would have gotten defined.  I'll look the next time, if there is one.  Nobody K was messing with the NCL volatile database as far as I'm able to determine.    -- Alan    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 08:34:41 -0800$ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org>. Subject: Extensive mount verification messagesA Message-ID: <1109349281.239590.4930@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   F Environment: 7.3-2 Alpha, mostly CI across a disaster-tolerant cluster9 (Gigaswitch/FDDI connections), recently added EVA storage   D When I first upgraded to VMS 7.3-2 (from 7.3-1), I started getting aB lot of mount verification messages related to a shadow set pair ofD local drives on my cluster test node.  All of the other disks in theC cluster were CI-based.  I thought this was a problem with just that E host, but now that I've added EVA storage, the problem has gotten out  of hand.  F The configuration I've got is 3 Alphas in the cluster with both CI and@ SAN connections, 3 with only CI, and 1 with only SAN.  All hostsG (except for the one with only SAN connections) also have a pair of FDDI C cards going another data center.  The EVA storage relies on ISLs to G access the remote storage and each host can maintain its own shadow set E rather than relying on MSCP.  My ISLs are rock solid with 0 errors on 
 the ports.  G What I am seeing is a *lot* of opcom messages from my non-SAN-connected E hosts trying to access SAN storage.  Each host's operator.log file is E over 100MB larger this week since I started mounting more SAN mounts.   B Each mount verification in progress/completed pair of messages are about a second apart.   F I don't believe that these are indicative of a problem I need to worryB about but I've been wrong before - I suspect the messages are justC overly agressive.  I've tried tuning the MVSUP parameters but there G isn't a lot of documentation on what the recommended values are and how F they may hide real problems.  Are there any rules of thumb here?  I'veE tried setting it to 61 in 60 seconds but the messages haven't stopped  or appear to have slowed down.  8 My patches are relatively current (sys 6, fibre_scsi 4).  - Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.    Thanks, 	    .../Ed    mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 07:35:48 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)   Subject: Re: FTP post processing3 Message-ID: <y8NidPAvakw6@eisner.encompasserve.org>   r In article <1109285492.de44a29dca152f0b530e3bcd8cc12311@teranews>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:  F > This comes up so often, perhaps it is time to tackle this and make a$ > formal request to VMS management ?  E    The need to know about file open state is not exclusive to FTP.  I G    would prefer a generic ACP or XQP function which allowed one to hook E    in an AST to fire when a given file, exclusively opened by abother E    process, is closed.  It would be nice if there were access to this F    at higher levels (most folks don't pull out the I/O User's Guide to    do simple file I/O).   B    If the file system used the DLM in a straightforward manner andE    published the name of just one lock, this could be accomplished by C    way of $ENQ with a lock grant AST.  But VMS Engineering has good F    reasons for not documenting those lock names as an API and may very*    well want to take a different approach.   ------------------------------   Date: 25 FEB 2005 10:14:07 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)  Subject: Re: FTP post processing6 Message-ID: <25FEB05.10140763@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  H ->> This comes up so often, perhaps it is time to tackle this and make a& ->> formal request to VMS management ?  F While this would be a useful feature to some, I'd rather see resourcesA expended on adding a feature to the ftp server that would make it E function well with GUI ftp clients when a directory name contains a ^ D character. A unix emulation mode perhaps. I've yet to find a GUI ftp@ client that will transfer (or even display) files in a directoryE with ^ in the name. Not that I care much about GUI ftp clients but my 	 users do.    --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison 6 --               karcher.nomorespqm@waisman.wisc.edu     ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:39:17 -0800 % From: DeanW <dean.woodward@gmail.com>  Subject: Good case for VMS7 Message-ID: <3f119ada050225093917831d7d@mail.gmail.com>   C Anyone else notice that the BOINC version of Seti@Home is down? I'm ? not going to claim that VMS would have prevented all the issues D they're having right now- but it might have helped. I leave it as anC exercise to the reader to determine the cost:benefit ratio a 2-node = cluster that would have prevented this whole mess might have.   - http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/tech_news.php    February 24, 2005 - 23:30 UTC E Update on yesterday's outage: We are still dealing with some database F fallout. Most of the classic SETI@home systems are up - enough that weA can serve workunits to users. However, BOINC is dead in the water 9 until we get at least one database server up and running.   C With the master database corrupted beyond repair, we turned all our E attention to the replica. Its disks finished sync'ing last night, and B after some file system checks the machine booted and mysql startedF just fine. A battery of tests revealed no corruption.. until we got to? the result table. Of course, that's by far the biggest and most D important table in the database. We are attempting to repair it now.  C Assuming we can repair it with little or no data loss, we will then A dump all the data from the replica back onto the master. If we're E lucky, this will be done by tomorrow morning and we can start revving  all the engines back up.  C Please note that since it was a slower machine than the master, the D data on the replica database server was about 30 minutes behind realD time. We did try to limp both systems along to sync the replica dataD up even further but no dice. So, when we do get back on line it willE be as if there was a half-hour hole in time during which all uploaded > results were lost (and any user profile updates, message boardA postings, etc.). We sincerely apologize to all our users for this  loss.   B Court brought in a UPS from his personal server collection. So the? master database will be protected while we scramble to purchase E another. The database server was unprotected yesterday because it was A in our lab, not in the data closet where all of our UPS's are. We F were/are just weeks away from a data closet reorganization designed to make room for the DB server.   February 23, 2005 - 23:30 UTC A A sudden, unexpected power outage due to a blown breaker shut the D whole BOINC project down for several hours (along with all the otherE projects in the lab). The cause is still unknown (which is scary), so E there will be a scheduled power outage in the near future to hunt for C electrical problems. We do know this: we just can't seem to catch a  break around here.  C We were able to gracefully shut down many servers on battery backup F (UPS) before the batteries drained, but not all of them, including theF new BOINC database server. So the data is scrambled, and mysql refusesA to start. Our last backup to tape is a week old. This week's tape F backup was about 60% finished when the power went out (Murphy's law in a nutshell).  A The good news is we have a replica database which should be up to C date. The bad news is that this had disk errors upon booting up and D its drives are still resync'ing. After that, we'll have to check theD table integrity on the replica - if we're lucky and mysql is able toF start, we can then dump the data from the replica back onto the master% and continue right where we left off.   E Earlier this morning the project was off for some routine maintenance F (tweaking the BIOS on the database server to get rid of spurious errorA messages and snapshotting for database backups). An hour after we . brought everything back up the power went off.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 06:56:01 -0800  From: "JLR" <jl.rayon@gmail.com>3 Subject: Re: How to clear device errors w/o reboot? C Message-ID: <1109343361.171913.188740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   E Yesterday I have downloaded CLEAR_ERRORS  and I have tried it (early)  this morning...   - ... and it works without crashing the system! &     (After recompilation under V7.2-1)     Thanks Mark    Jean-Luc RAYON   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:17:24 -0500  From: norm.raphael@metso.com3 Subject: Re: How to clear device errors w/o reboot? Q Message-ID: <OF37906E8B.D4CF19C5-ON85256FB3.0053F8DD-85256FB3.005451D8@metso.com>   - You're welcome (and don't call me Mark).  ;-)   ; "JLR" <jl.rayon@gmail.com> wrote on 02/25/2005 09:56:01 AM:   G > Yesterday I have downloaded CLEAR_ERRORS  and I have tried it (early)  > this morning...  > / > ... and it works without crashing the system! ( >     (After recompilation under V7.2-1) >  > 
 > Thanks Mark  >  > Jean-Luc RAYON >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:32:27 GMT % From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com> E Subject: Re: How to make BACKUP fail instead of making OPCOM request? > Message-ID: <%aKTd.36032$by5.27166@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>  @ "David J Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message % news:421E965D.F8E1C305@comcast.net...  > Bob Koehler wrote: >>I >> In article <1109201710.f768b09e46e168f6fb6433c34a6a9c8e@teranews>, JF  / >> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: H >> > Different slant: would it be possible for your batch job to spawn aH >> > subprocess which VMS would view as "interactive" at which point the* >> > /NOASSIST might be handled properly ? >>I >>    Getting the subprocess to be "interactive" is a non-trivial effort.  > ( > Maybe play some games with FT devices? > I > We've needed for a long time to have a version of (ALPHA_)LOGGER.C that 4 > would work from a file as well as from a terminal. >   K Are you looking for a way to run an interactive application with the input  " coming from a file?  If so, go to:   http://www.mvpsi.com  L and request a free license for JAMS.  Use the JAMS RECORD command to record J the application and then look at the PLAY execution method to see how you  run the recorded session.   M The free license has a 25 job per day limit but that won't affect the RECORD   and PLAY stuff.   G I don't think this will help with the original BACKUP/NOASSIST problem  - because the process mode will still be BATCH.    John Vottero   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:28:23 -0500 # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>0B Subject: IBM gets it - investing to keep customers and ISV's happy, Message-ID: <l4Kdna578Oyaq4LfRVn-sg@igs.net>  A http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/02/25/HNiseriesprogram_1.htmlf    I Even if this is nothing really new, IBM knows how to get the word out....i    % IBM digs deep for iSeries developmentgE eServer iSeries Initiative For Innovation aims to bolster iSeries appA developmentr   By  Ed Scannelln February 25, 2005i  H Signaling a deepened commitment to its venerable iSeries of servers, IBMC (Profile, Products, Articles) on Friday announced plans to increasecI financial investments in developers dedicated to writing applications foro iSeries-based mid-market users.n  I As part of the IBM eServer iSeries Initiative For Innovation program, the H company said it will offer as much as $50,000 in incremental services toK about 2,500 application and tools developers to help them more aggressivelyeJ pursue innovative solutions for the iSeries. As part of the program, theseL selected developers will be able to work with IBM's iSeries technologists inK Rochester, Minn., where the iSeries, formerly known as the AS/400, was born  in the late 1980s.  I Big Blue also plans to invest further in five existing and new Innovation0L Centers spread around the world that will serve to help create a range of OnL Demand products and technologies for iSeries developers. The company is alsoJ opening the iSeries Developer's Roadmap to hundreds more business partnersL and tools developers, company officials said. The five technical centers areG located in the United States and United Kingdom, with new centers beingO: established in China, Japan, Italy, France, and Australia.  H Explaining its renewed commitment to the mid-range server, Mark Shearer,E general manager of the eServer iSeries, said, "we wanted to smash thePI barriers that stood in our partners' way, no matter what development path C they choose, as well as to accelerate their ability to deliver more-< innovations in the areas of RFID, Web services, portals, and personalization."e  ? Vormittag Associates (VAI), a software provider for the retail,sE manufacturing, and distribution industries, has been working with thelJ iSeries technical and marketing teams under the program. Together with IBME it has created a suite of portlets that presents users with different J choices for a graphical front end. Bob Vormittag, VAI's president, said heH found that in working with IBM his company was able to better pursue new users.  J "In fact, custom cosmetics manufacturer Autumn Harp moved off of its IntelL (Profile, Products, Articles)-based systems onto a new iSeries running VAI'sL System 2000 software to streamline its manufacturing processes and create an% on-demand operation," Vormittag said.   B As part of the Initiative For Innovation program, IBM unveiled itsG Application Innovation program, which offers enablement support free oftJ charge to help ISVs strengthen the on-demand capabilities for the iSeries;L Tools Innovation program, which involves IBM pushing broader tools solutionsI giving corporate and third-party developers more opportunities to enhanceSI existing applications; and the iSeries Innovation program that will offereI greater access IBM's technical experts in its Rochester, Minn.-based labst: with whom developers can work collaboratively on projects.         --  - OpenVMS - The classics never go out of style.6   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:46:54 -05001- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>.0 Subject: IBM's X chipset no longer supports IA64B Message-ID: <1109334821.4ab52fa79e766850e4109d0b4fee470e@teranews>  d > http://news.com.com/IBM+server+design+drops+Itanium+support/2100-1006_3-5589603.html?tag=nefd.lede  B IBM released its X3 chipset that allows multiple CPUs to be linkedF together, and that version no longer supports IA64, due to weak market, demand. It supports the 8086/Xeon and Power.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:01:19 +0100L/ From: chateau <"chateau64[NOSPAM]"@ifrance.com>  Subject: indexed file with javao4 Message-ID: <421edb4d$0$13403$626a14ce@news.free.fr>   Hellos  6 I want to access my indexed file with my java program.K First, is it possible ? and if I can, does it exist API witch permit that ?T   thanks for your help.g   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 07:49:22 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)h# Subject: Re: indexed file with java 3 Message-ID: <7Nq2Md2i4VU9@eisner.encompasserve.org>0  f In article <421edb4d$0$13403$626a14ce@news.free.fr>, chateau <"chateau64[NOSPAM]"@ifrance.com> writes: > Hello  > 8 > I want to access my indexed file with my java program.M > First, is it possible ? and if I can, does it exist API witch permit that ?   C    If you want to read your indexed file sequentially, then just go G    ahead and do it, but be aware that the sequence will be logical, noti;    physical (as if you had sorted the file by the indices).   B    If you want keyed access, you'll have to use the JNI to write a7    couple routines.  Java doesn't know keys from tires.,   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:41:49 +0000 (UTC)t6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) Subject: Re: Install TCPIP 5.41 Message-ID: <newscache$phlgci$gza1$1@news.sil.at>e  N In article <opsmqbdb0rzgicya@hyrrokkin>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:S >On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:31:56 -0500, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote:. >> Tom Linden wrote:O >>> The latest TCPIP for VAX is 5.1.  Is there SSH server and client available?i >>7 >> Latest for VAX is TCPIP 5.3 if I remember correctly.i > A >5.1 came in my 7.3 kit.  Do you know if SSH2 is client/server ise >available for 5.3?t  M V5.3 (ECO 4) is unfortunately still the latest TCPIP version for OpenVMS VAX.t  L TCPIP V5.3 doesn't include SSH in the base kit. But there was an addon fieldK test kit named TCPIP_SSH-T0503-15 - and before it was TCPIP_SSH-T0503-11E -jL which had a lot of problems but worked good enough for some of us. IIRC thisM fieldtest kits have been only available on Alpha. So your SSH bet is TCPware.s   -- r Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 01:21:37 -0800) From: carfer@gmail.com (Carlos Fernandez)o5 Subject: Re: LA75 escape sequences and Laser printersl< Message-ID: <f4a8f670.0502250121.164e99a@posting.google.com>   Thanks to both.t   I'll test DCPS.    Regardse   Carlos Fernandez  w JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> wrote in message news:<1109277932.d769749b45657795b614575b721a15d2@teranews>...e > Carlos Fernandez wrote:hG > > I'm migrating a Vax development to Alpha. Many programs use digitaln/ > > escape sequences for the LA75/210 printers.f > G > > Does any one knows if any laser printer is compatible with them? If G > > not, any other solution / suggestion rather than editing the sourceh
 > > files? > H > Most escape sequences would be fairly compatible between an LA75 and aC > LN03 for instance. Where you get into trouble is with SIXEL whereu > scaling will be a factor.  > F > I've generated a comparison table of basic escape sequences from the > ALL-IN-1 printer tables:, > http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/la75_ln03.txt > J > DCPS will be able to translate ANSI sequences used by both LN03 and LA75J > printers and generate postscript. However,if you generate sixel, you mayG > find your output will not scale the same way. (the tables above don'twB > deal with sixel graphics since all-in-1's word processors didn't > generate sixel).   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 06:00:14 -0800 From: bob@instantwhip.como5 Subject: Re: LA75 escape sequences and Laser printersTB Message-ID: <1109340014.547840.99810@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>  F if your programs call print subroutines like our dibol programs do, weE easily added pcl support to LA escape sequence support, and simply bye? sending an argument denoting which to use to the subroutine, it D provides the correct escape sequence for that printer type ... so ifE you have subroutines, it is fairly easy to add support for really any- type of printer ...    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:27:43 +0000s% From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>p Subject: Logfile name-8 Message-ID: <ej9u11lup726bgah3nipv153onhs4kfn4q@4ax.com>   Hi all,   D From within a batch job how do I find out what the value of the /LOG qualifier was at submit time?    e.g. n  = $ submit/log=gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log	 X.COM    B When X.COM is running I want to put the value specifed on the /LOG into a symbol. l   $ show symbol LogFile ;      LogFile = "gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log"  c  D I was fairly sure I could do this with a lexical function but cannot find/remember which one. A   Cheers 	Dave.     ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 06:38:01 -0800$ From: "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Logfile namekC Message-ID: <1109342281.751360.269630@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>t   David Gray wrote: 	 > Hi all,m >eF > From within a batch job how do I find out what the value of the /LOG > qualifier was at submit time?i >1 > e.g. >h> > $ submit/log=gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log	 X.COM >cD > When X.COM is running I want to put the value specifed on the /LOG > into a symbol. >e > $ show symbol LogFiler; >      LogFile = "gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log"  >oF > I was fairly sure I could do this with a lexical function but cannot > find/remember which one. >m > Cheers > 	Dave.    	 Try this:t   $    SET VERIFYtG $    LOG_FILE = F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB","LOG_SPECIFICATION",,"THIS_JOB")  $    SHOW SYMBOL LOG_FILE    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:59:41 +0000a% From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>e Subject: Re: Logfile namee8 Message-ID: <i8fu11psoklnh8qicq0en51p8eg426vnip@4ax.com>   Cheers.     D On 25 Feb 2005 06:38:01 -0800, "AEF" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote:   >t >David Gray wrote:
 >> Hi all, >>G >> From within a batch job how do I find out what the value of the /LOGr  >> qualifier was at submit time? >> >> e.g.  >>? >> $ submit/log=gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log	 X.COM  >>E >> When X.COM is running I want to put the value specifed on the /LOGh >> into a symbol.e >> >> $ show symbol LogFile< >>      LogFile = "gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log" >>G >> I was fairly sure I could do this with a lexical function but cannotl >> find/remember which one.d >>	 >> Cheerso	 >> 	Dave.s >l > 
 >Try this: >e >$    SET VERIFYH >$    LOG_FILE = F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB","LOG_SPECIFICATION",,"THIS_JOB") >$    SHOW SYMBOL LOG_FILE   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:09:13 -0800 , From: Ken Fairfield <my.full.name@intel.com> Subject: Re: Logfile name + Message-ID: <cvnm3p$8dg$1@news01.intel.com>n  
 AEF wrote: > David Gray wrote:  > 	 >>Hi all,k >>F >>From within a batch job how do I find out what the value of the /LOG >>qualifier was at submit time?  >> >>e.g. >>> >>$ submit/log=gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log	 X.COM >>D >>When X.COM is running I want to put the value specifed on the /LOG >>into a symbol. >> >>$ show symbol LogFileo; >>     LogFile = "gen_logs:a_log_file_with_a_long_name.log"f >>F >>I was fairly sure I could do this with a lexical function but cannot >>find/remember which one. >> >>Cheers >>	Dave. >  >  >  > Try this:  >  > $    SET VERIFY I > $    LOG_FILE = F$GETQUI("DISPLAY_JOB","LOG_SPECIFICATION",,"THIS_JOB")b > $    SHOW SYMBOL LOG_FILE         That _almost_ works...n  ?      If there was no /LOG qualifier on the SUBMIT, the LOG_FILE > symbol above returns "".  If the /LOG specified a logical nameC only, e.g. SYS$SCRATCH:, LOG_FILE comes back with SYS$SCRATCH:.LOG;I* ...only with SYS$SCRATCH fully translated.  A      This is an old problem that is difficult to get right in all D cases.  Without actually testing, I think you'd need some additional+ processing long the lines of the following:   : $ THIS_FILE = F$Parse(F$Environment("PROCEDURE"),,,"NAME")A $ LOG_FULL  = F$Parse(LOG_FILE,"''THIS_FILE'.LOG;","SYS$SCRATCH")   C where I've specified SYS$SCRATCH because that defaults to SYS$LOGIN:8 and is the default location for writing log files, IIRC.  
       -Ken -- n6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken Fairfieldo! D1C Automation VMS System Supportt" who:   kenneth dot h dot fairfield where: intel dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:04:14 -0500d' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com>l< Subject: RE: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to WindowsR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB53F81C@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>   > -----Original Message-----E > From: johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com [mailto:johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com]=20T" > Sent: February 23, 2005 10:54 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > > Subject: Re: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to Windows >=20 >=20 > John Smith wrote: # > > johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com wrote:t > > > rob kas wrote:) > > >> http://www.vnunet.com/news/1161471a > > >nH > > > "'The .Net framework really adds a lot of productivity benefits to > thet: > > > developers, and we've seen it already. Instead of=20 > mid-size projectsnG > > > costing =A31m to =A32m and taking nine to 12 months, the quotes =l I'mn > nowiF > > > getting are hundreds of thousands of pounds, taking three to six > > > months to do." > > >cD > > > Is he really comparing the time and cost of completed projects > againtA > > > estimates quoted by developers????  What planet is he from?n > >  > >lH > > Lots of projects in the financial world start at those pricetags and > more.G/ > > I've been involved in plenty @ $5MM and up.y > >n >=20G > I wasn't questioning the pricetag, I was having a hard time believing G > that this guy was taking "quotes" from developers on how long and how B > much they think a project will take at face value.  I'ts been my5 > experience that often they are woefully optimistic.  >=20 >=20; And 99 times out of a 100 these cost quotes do not include:hI - Operations costs associated with moving to new environment e.g. Virus =sI utilities, backup, batch, defrag, system monitoring and so on .. In the = H case of Windows all additional costs since prod versions these are not = provided by the OS.-G - training of Operations staff to new technologies. And before anyone = F says "just get new staff", think about separation packages for staff =G that have been there 10-15-20 years (and in Europe these are huge pkgs)cA - cost of interface packages required to link in external vendors-  G When I hear some Customers talk about switching platforms because app =.I development is "perceived" to be quicker (remember they have no mission =dG critical record where they proved this yet), but do not discuss these =MJ other costs, I have to wonder "where have all the IT Leaders of the past = gone?"  F OTOH, personal opinion, but I have to smile sometimes at things like =J this as it is sometimes like talking to teenagers - you try to give them =I the benefit of your experience, but they just have to try it themselves =X before they believe it.   @ Ah well, should make for interesting press when they do go live.   :-)    Regardsl  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax: 613-591-4477" kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT)=20  $ "OpenVMS has always had integrity .. Now, Integrity has OpenVMS .."  =20   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:29:41 -0500-# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> < Subject: Re: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to Windows, Message-ID: <avSdndZ1Yojoz4LfRVn-1g@igs.net>   Main, Kerry wrote: >> -----Original Message-----aC >> From: johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com [mailto:johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com]d# >> Sent: February 23, 2005 10:54 PMu >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com? >> Subject: Re: London Stock Exchange slowing moving to Windowst >> >> >> John Smith wrote:# >>> johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com wrote:  >>>> rob kas wrote:L( >>>>> http://www.vnunet.com/news/1161471 >>>>G >>>> "'The .Net framework really adds a lot of productivity benefits to> >> the6 >>>> developers, and we've seen it already. Instead of >> mid-size projectsD >>>> costing 1m to 2m and taking nine to 12 months, the quotes I'm >> nowE >>>> getting are hundreds of thousands of pounds, taking three to six> >>>> months to do."  >>>>C >>>> Is he really comparing the time and cost of completed projects 	 >> againtt@ >>>> estimates quoted by developers????  What planet is he from? >>>a >>>aH >>> Lots of projects in the financial world start at those pricetags and >> more./ >>> I've been involved in plenty @ $5MM and up.- >>>- >>H >> I wasn't questioning the pricetag, I was having a hard time believingH >> that this guy was taking "quotes" from developers on how long and howC >> much they think a project will take at face value.  I'ts been myo6 >> experience that often they are woefully optimistic. >> >>= > And 99 times out of a 100 these cost quotes do not include:oC > - Operations costs associated with moving to new environment e.g. E > Virus utilities, backup, batch, defrag, system monitoring and so oniD > .. In the case of Windows all additional costs since prod versions# > these are not provided by the OS. G > - training of Operations staff to new technologies. And before anyone.F > says "just get new staff", think about separation packages for staffC > that have been there 10-15-20 years (and in Europe these are huge  > pkgs)eC > - cost of interface packages required to link in external vendorsa >aG > When I hear some Customers talk about switching platforms because appmA > development is "perceived" to be quicker (remember they have no A > mission critical record where they proved this yet), but do not)D > discuss these other costs, I have to wonder "where have all the IT > Leaders of the past gone?" > F > OTOH, personal opinion, but I have to smile sometimes at things likeE > this as it is sometimes like talking to teenagers - you try to giveoC > them the benefit of your experience, but they just have to try it,$ > themselves before they believe it. >aB > Ah well, should make for interesting press when they do go live.     Nice attitude.  " It should have never come to this.  I HP should have been in there clawing tooth and nail showing them why theyuL are making a big mistake switching to Windows....or is it that HP saw dollarL signs in selling them a truckload of Proliants using an o/s that HP makes no money from?>     --- OpenVMS - The classics never go out of style.-   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:00:53 -0500", From: Hoff Hoffman <hoff-remove-this@hp.com>: Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions for bootcamp sessions* Message-ID: <421f3e11@usenet01.boi.hp.com>   FredK wrote:   > N > Frankly, I don't know.  Hoff may have a way.  Backup does a callback to hookO > the boot stuff up, including creating the partition headers - I don't know if I > there is a way to have backup do this so that a new GUID isn't created.n  E    The SET BOOTBLOCK command and the underlying undocumented foreign eH command interface can both optionally preserve an existing on-disk GUID D when re-writing the bootblock.  The underlying undocumented foreign @ command interface can also decode and display the contents of a B bootblock, this intended to permit an additional check within the $ REBOOT_CHECK processing in SHUTDOWN.  =    The EFI tools are certainly fodder for a bootcamp session.s  @    As for a discussion elsewhere in the thread, a corruptor was C discovered within EFI$CP late in V8.2, and access was deliberately PB disabled, and this disablement of this undocumented tool was then E referenced in the release notes.  (The irony here was not lost on at iH least some of us, either.)  EFI$CP is used to manage the boot partition.  H    If I get some spare cycles, I'll edit and post out the I64 bootstrap E details and the sequence -- this bootstrap sequence material and the rH various EFI tools will be fodder for one of the sessions I expect to be H presenting at the bootcamp, too.  (Assuming Sue accepts the session, of  course.)   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 05:39:26 -0800( From: tbilopavlovic@hotmail.com (Triger)  Subject: no device wsa0: ?  help= Message-ID: <8858c57d.0502250539.515b6f99@posting.google.com>    Hello;  A System is Alpha ds-10 with open vms 7.2.3 I need to connect on itD trough< x-windows client on WinWX. When I try to create display "set; display/create /transport....etc" i got message "nosuchdev"i  < When I do "sh dev" I see there is no device WSA0: at all !! 5 (like on my other ds-10 where those things work fine)   2 What I need to do to get wsa ?  How to install it?  	 Thank youa   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 12:08:11 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)O$ Subject: Re: no device wsa0: ?  help3 Message-ID: <JJRpQO$3YxUA@eisner.encompasserve.org>c  h In article <8858c57d.0502250539.515b6f99@posting.google.com>, tbilopavlovic@hotmail.com (Triger) writes: > Hello; > C > System is Alpha ds-10 with open vms 7.2.3 I need to connect on itI > trough> > x-windows client on WinWX. When I try to create display "set= > display/create /transport....etc" i got message "nosuchdev"h  C    DECwindows is either not installed, not started, or not licesed.v   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 07:39:07 -0800 From: martinkirby12@yahoo.co.ukh# Subject: Re: no device wsa0: ? help B Message-ID: <1109345947.346409.81990@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  
 Triger wrote:A  = > When I do "sh dev" I see there is no device WSA0: at all !!:7 > (like on my other ds-10 where those things work fine)E >n4 > What I need to do to get wsa ?  How to install it?  @ Do you have a SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP.COM file? If not then youC probably selected to not install the DECwindows base files when youIA installed OpenVMS. You need to use PRODUCT RECONFIGURE to get the   DECwindows base files installed.  G If you do have it then you have probably defined DECW$IGNORE_DECWINDOWSi! so as to disable execution of it.s   Martin Kirby   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:48:24 -0500m) From: "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca>d= Subject: OpenVMS Seminar in Toronto (2005-02-24) a few pointso; Message-ID: <89FTd.49405$Am3.1510285@news20.bellglobal.com>a   Folks,  F Yesterday (2005-02-24) I attended the OpenVMS "Technical Outlook 2005"E seminar in Toronto. The slides should be posted at the following URL   sometime soon:e http://www.encompasscanada.com/s1 but here are "a few" highlights from my note pad.a  	 * * * * *n  I OpenVMS business is still growing at ~12% per year since the HP merger ino' 2002. (Seems to be a big hit in Europe)    OpenVMS is #1 in health care$ OpenVMS is 90% in chip manufacturing& OpenVMS is 50% in mobile phone billing& OpenVMS is 50% of all SMS transactions/ OpenVMS is 66% of all electronic bank transfers . OpenVMS runs 5 out of the top 10 stock markets  G OpenVMS Itanium licensing will be simpler and cheaper. The three major e categories are:p FOE - Foundation EOE - Enterprise MCOE - Mission Criticals- (languages will still be licensed separately)   J I saw a presentation on Charon-VAX. This emulator can now out-perform the 9 machines they emulate. The US military is a BIG customer.d  J Page alignment problems on Alpha paid a penalty 10 times greater than VAX.L Page alignment problems on Itanium pay a penalty 100 times greater than VAX.   Stuff From Terry Shannon ====================  ; Carly had 5 Gulf Stream jets (could this have been a joke?)d  J Carly was mostly missing in action from Palo Alto (one example of this is K her participation in the Bush administration's "Man Mission to Mars before n 2030" council)  I Carly justified the merger of HP with Compaq as necessary to take-on IBM.iI Then later forgot about this by focusing home entertainment products, PCs8
 and Printers.s  L Terry believes that Tru64 and HP-UX could have quietly merged during a port G to Itanium rather than trying to merge pieces of one OS into the other aG before an Itanium port (the OS merge before porting would have had the  A undesirable side-effect of delaying the final product in Itanium)e  L Compaq and Digital employees are "of a lower cast" at HP. When heads need to# role, they tend to be not-HP heads.u  	 * * * * *   
 Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,l Ontario, Canada.8 http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Feb 2005 23:40:49 -0800% From: Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn)o( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.= Message-ID: <a98cd882.0502242340.447254dc@posting.google.com>   e David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<421E99A1.9ED7F273@comcast.net>...a      [ S n i p . . . ]  H > First, I'd consider the NFS store to be archival only. Before editing,H > make a local copy, and don't replace the source until you're satisfied > with the changes.@   Agreed.m  F > Second, lines longer than the width of the screen are unsuitable forF > common practice use with a text editor. If the application cannot beF > "fixed" to use a more reasonable configuration file format, considerH > developing a configuration editor (and make it as "portable", whatever* > that means to you, as your application).   Agreed.r  3 > By the way: TPU can cause inadvertent corruption:a >  > o Edit any file.J > o Move the cursor to the end of any line where the next line is shorter., > o Cursor down once, and hit the space bar. > F > You just corrupted your file. The cursor line is now one byte longerE > than the line above it. TPU/EVE has space-padded the line up to the H > cursor position before you added a space, and then added the space you
 > just typed.   E I would not call this corruption. It is documented behaviour and your9C file is certainly not fubar. You can use the EVE command SET CURSOR % BOUND to prevent this from happening.    > Fun stuff, huh?t > J > TPU/EVE has its uses, don't get me wrong. So has EDT, vi, eMACS and evenF > EDLIN (if you still have any MS-DOS or W/9X system running). Just be5 > aware of what the program can do you and your text.v   I agree mostly, but vi ?   > -- e > David J Dachtera > dba DJE Systemse > http://www.djesys.com/  	 Bart Zorn3   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:55:05 +0000s0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.4 Message-ID: <cvmp59$jt5$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   Richard Maher wrote:   > Hi,s > K > I didn't see the original problem, but along the lines of "*MAJOR* bug inr# > TPU" how's this for a feature : -a  % You start off read_only,unmodifiable.  You change it to modifiable. You get what you asked for.mG Personally I use this setting to allow me to wrap over-long lines so I l< can read them, *without* risking corruption of the original.F Sounds like what *you* want is to use "set buf write", and forget the > existence of "set buf modi". "set buf wri" implies modifiable.   Chris   N > 1) You edit some code with /READ 'cos the source in your reference directory6 > and you haven't checked it out for modification yet. > J > 2) You suddenly suffer from an epiphany as hundreds of new lines of code > rush down to your fingers  > G > 3) You reach for the mouse and change the buffer from unmodifiable to N > go-crazy (You're an adult! You'll sort out the niceties later. So what if it > contains nuts?)e > - > 4) Hours fly by in your code induced frenzys > 4 > 5) You EXIT out of TPU ready to debug your changes > M > 6) Just like magic your file is exactly how it started and all your changesc > have gone up in smoke :-(e > E > Not a warning message! Not a "Would you like a chance to save thesel > changes?" Nothin'! >  > Nice.l >  > Cheers Richard >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:22:56 +0100u& From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU., Message-ID: <388935F5kq57rU1@individual.net>   Bart Zorn wrote:  g > David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<421E99A1.9ED7F273@comcast.net>...o >  >    [ S n i p . . . ] >  > H >>First, I'd consider the NFS store to be archival only. Before editing,H >>make a local copy, and don't replace the source until you're satisfied >>with the changes.a >  > 	 > Agreed.r >  > F >>Second, lines longer than the width of the screen are unsuitable forF >>common practice use with a text editor. If the application cannot beF >>"fixed" to use a more reasonable configuration file format, considerH >>developing a configuration editor (and make it as "portable", whatever* >>that means to you, as your application). >  > 	 > Agreed.w >  > 3 >>By the way: TPU can cause inadvertent corruption:n >> >>o Edit any file.J >>o Move the cursor to the end of any line where the next line is shorter., >>o Cursor down once, and hit the space bar. >>F >>You just corrupted your file. The cursor line is now one byte longerE >>than the line above it. TPU/EVE has space-padded the line up to the-H >>cursor position before you added a space, and then added the space you
 >>just typed.a >  > G > I would not call this corruption. It is documented behaviour and yourgE > file is certainly not fubar. You can use the EVE command SET CURSORo' > BOUND to prevent this from happening.o > H But be aware that after issuing SET CURSOR BOUND results in a prompt at G exit "Attributes were changed.  Save them [YES]?". ISTR many moons ago -? that this would also change some other attribute I didn't want.@  H It's best to read up on the TPU help here to determine how you want them3 saving. See HELP SET CURSOR BOUND, then ATTRIBUTES.c   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 05:27:53 -0800& From: "Galen" <gspamtackett@yahoo.com>( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.C Message-ID: <1109338073.256633.170830@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>N  D You can disable the "Attributes were changed. Save them [YES]?" with+ the EVE command SET NOEXIT ATTRIBUTE CHECK.R   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 07:27:33 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)o( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.3 Message-ID: <uPzDn5UYU58E@eisner.encompasserve.org>0  h In article <cvl6rk$jt5$1@hercules.btinternet.com>, "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com> writes: > Hi,  > K > I didn't see the original problem, but along the lines of "*MAJOR* bug inV# > TPU" how's this for a feature : -  > N > 1) You edit some code with /READ 'cos the source in your reference directory6 > and you haven't checked it out for modification yet.  C    /READ marks the buffer both NO MODIFY and NO WRITE.  If you onlygG    change NO MODIFY you get what you asked for, a buffer which TPU willtH    let you modify, but will not automatically write.  I have buttons to G    toggle each of these separately in my EVE interface for exactly this8
    reason.  I    Yes, there are many legitimate times when I want buffers MODIFY and NOtE    WRITE.  But if you don't then write a little TPU routine to toggles    both at the same time.c   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 07:39:22 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)t( Subject: Re: Ouch! a *MAJOR* bug in TPU.3 Message-ID: <5beVVg9AfaHo@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <421E99A1.9ED7F273@comcast.net>, David J Dachtera <djesys.nospam@comcast.net> writes: > F > You just corrupted your file. The cursor line is now one byte longerE > than the line above it. TPU/EVE has space-padded the line up to the:H > cursor position before you added a space, and then added the space you
 > just typed.m  B    You just edited your file, telling TPU to put a space where the0    cursor is.  That's hardly the editor's fault.  F    Yes, I know oher editors can and do use the space bar as a movement=    command.  Tradiationaly DEC's editors didn't and TPU is noh
    exception.U   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:19:44 -0600n# From: "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu>- Subject: Point Securee+ Message-ID: <EdJTd.21865$bp3.8833@fe03.lga>@  J Anyone using Point Secure's "System Detective"? We are considering it for B its key stroke logging capability (in case we need to investigate L unauthorized activity). Many other features are also available that seem to K make it the Swiss army knife for additional OpenVMS Security: Assist users  J interactively, log out idle sessions, log attempts to access unauthorized J resources.  Is there another product that offers all of these features in J one package? I'm also interested to hear about system performance impact,  which I'm told is minimal.      H I liked this synopsis written by Nic Clews   Jun 19 2002 on comp.os.vms:    VMS out of the box is very good.  B VMS after some configuration reading the documentation can be made 'draconian'.  E Some companies (e.g. Point Secure) can provide add ons which can maken" passing wind a security violation.   Your feedback is appreciated,s       Thanks,o      	 Dan Moore    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:32:12 GMTe" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Point Securee0 Message-ID: <00A3FEC6.E08F52DD@SendSpamHere.ORG>  Q In article <EdJTd.21865$bp3.8833@fe03.lga>, "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> writes: K >Anyone using Point Secure's "System Detective"? We are considering it for  C >its key stroke logging capability (in case we need to investigate tM >unauthorized activity). Many other features are also available that seem to rL >make it the Swiss army knife for additional OpenVMS Security: Assist users K >interactively, log out idle sessions, log attempts to access unauthorized iK >resources.  Is there another product that offers all of these features in  K >one package? I'm also interested to hear about system performance impact, t >which I'm told is minimal.a   SecurityGuard!   http://www.provn.com/s     -- wK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMh            t5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" l   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:24:54 +0100l1 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?=(E Subject: Python Webware application server succesfully run on OpenVMSt, Message-ID: <3895qkF5l8ahgU1@individual.net>  F I was able to install on, OpenVMS the Python Webware aplication server< (http://www.webwareforpython.org/) without any modification.    D The server can be used as a usual application server or as a CgiPLusG environment on WASD Web server (only part I have developed) which allow F to run a Webware instance under the account of the identified (logged)% user and not under a geenric account.d  H I have put online a demonstration (http://vmspython.dyndns.org/webkit/).  D Currently, no PCSI kit are available, but I will probably build one.    E I have also include in the latest python kit (python and python235) anE RTE environment for WASD which allow to run most of Python CGI scriptsA without any modification but using a resident Python interpreter.-  H As usual I have put on http://vmspython.dyndns.org/ some demonstrations,I chart using gdchart library and pdf generation using reportlab libraries.v    
 Jean-Franoisu   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Feb 2005 22:50:34 -0800 From: icerq4a@spray.se Subject: Re: Sayonara TukwillaC Message-ID: <1109314234.099635.108020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>n   JF Mezei wrote:l> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/24/intel_nicks_tukwila/ >f# > The title in the URL says it all.- >-9 > Meanwhile, Fujitsu is expected to release a 64 CPU IA64<8 > refrigirator/mainframe that will run Linux or Windows.  : The Reg is late on this, The Inq covered this in December.( The former Tukwila was too power hungry.  D The new Tukwila will be a 4-core Montvale product with the EV8 teams5 system infrastructure, and that is what Itanium need.a   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 01:54:39 -0500o( From: Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> Subject: Re: Sayonara Tukwilla= Message-ID: <QrKdnXKaKIMsVoPfRVn-uw@metrocastcablevision.com>:   JF Mezei wrote: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/24/intel_nicks_tukwila/ > # > The title in the URL says it all.0  F Though it's not exactly news:  IIRC the change to yet another spin of G the McKinley core was announced at around the same time Intel acquired P the Fort Collins people.   > 9 > Meanwhile, Fujitsu is expected to release a 64 CPU IA64 8 > refrigirator/mainframe that will run Linux or Windows.  H Yeah.  Either this is going to be about as momentous as NEC's 'embrace' G of Itanic for the past few years, or (if Fujitsu does as good a job as 1F they have with SPARC64) it'll be good news for Intel but bad news for  Integrity & Superdome.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 04:13:44 -0500 ' From: Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>t Subject: Re: Sayonara Tukwilla0 Message-ID: <111tqhf3973rb7d@corp.supernews.com>   JF Mezei wrote:u > icerq4a@spray.se wrote:e > F >>The new Tukwila will be a 4-core Montvale product with the EV8 teams7 >>system infrastructure, and that is what Itanium need.s >  > J > No, this article says that they dumped the idea of 4 cores and will keep2 > it at 2 core, and just try to improve the cores.  + So let me see if I've got the rumors right.e  I DEC engineers are designing a chip, which will have 8 cores, and on chip   SMP.  F HP engineers don't want the CPU design of the DEC engineers, they get I the project taken away from the DEC engineers, they'll keep the SMP, but 0" re-do the CPU to their own liking.   Now they're down to 2 cores.    Now they're all Intel engineers.   That right?e   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 01:03:12 -0800 From: icerq4a@spray.se Subject: Re: Sayonara TukwillaC Message-ID: <1109322192.966385.270820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>5   JF Mezei wrote:t > icerq4a@spray.se wrote:PB > > The new Tukwila will be a 4-core Montvale product with the EV8 teamsk9 > > system infrastructure, and that is what Itanium need.T >3E > No, this article says that they dumped the idea of 4 cores and willl keep2 > it at 2 core, and just try to improve the cores.  ) Yes, this article this time says 2 cores, " but I have heard different things.   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Feb 2005 13:49:58 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: Sayonara Tukwilla, Message-ID: <388oo5F5lkln8U1@individual.net>  = In article <QrKdnXKaKIMsVoPfRVn-uw@metrocastcablevision.com>,r+ 	Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:L > JF Mezei wrote:s? >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/24/intel_nicks_tukwila/s >> g$ >> The title in the URL says it all. > H > Though it's not exactly news:  IIRC the change to yet another spin of I > the McKinley core was announced at around the same time Intel acquired 2 > the Fort Collins people. >  >> o: >> Meanwhile, Fujitsu is expected to release a 64 CPU IA649 >> refrigirator/mainframe that will run Linux or Windows.r > J > Yeah.  Either this is going to be about as momentous as NEC's 'embrace' I > of Itanic for the past few years, or (if Fujitsu does as good a job as uH > they have with SPARC64) it'll be good news for Intel but bad news for  > Integrity & Superdome. >    And will it run VMS?  :-)t   bill   -- tJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   u   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Feb 2005 11:50:16 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)d Subject: Re: Sayonara Tukwilla3 Message-ID: <BuWrbJYQTxAM@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <QrKdnXKaKIMsVoPfRVn-uw@metrocastcablevision.com>, Bill Todd <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes: > JF Mezei wrote:0? >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/24/intel_nicks_tukwila/s >> c$ >> The title in the URL says it all. > H > Though it's not exactly news:  IIRC the change to yet another spin of I > the McKinley core was announced at around the same time Intel acquired t > the Fort Collins people. >  >> p: >> Meanwhile, Fujitsu is expected to release a 64 CPU IA649 >> refrigirator/mainframe that will run Linux or Windows.  > J > Yeah.  Either this is going to be about as momentous as NEC's 'embrace' I > of Itanic for the past few years, or (if Fujitsu does as good a job as aH > they have with SPARC64) it'll be good news for Intel but bad news for  > Integrity & Superdome.  = 	Superdome is long in the tooth.  Surely something new in thea= 	wings, but of course not much chatter or it freezes existinge 	sales.L   				Robe   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:51:28 -0500_+ From: Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu>n Subject: ssl & osu5 Message-ID: <cvnah0$18i$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>s  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.& --------------0905070203050706000801079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowedt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bith   Group,  I I am running version 3.10a osu web server with openvms SSL on VMS 7.3-2. r Our users access our server.F based on two different ip addresses. Do you know if there is a way to   make users who are accessing oneG of the ip address applications on the web to force them to ssl (https) n$ and leave the other application http: or will I have to make it all https if I chose that route?   Thanks,_   Chuck Aaron_    & --------------090507020305070600080107) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-asciih Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   ? <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">l <html> <head>I   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">    <title></title>c </head>m' <body bgcolor="#339999" text="#ffffff"> P <font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 12px;">Group,<br> <font color="#ffffff"><br>A I am running version 3.10a osu web server with openvms SSL on VMS1' 7.3-2. Our users access our server <br>sE based on two different ip addresses. Do you know if there is a way toc% make users who are accessing one <br> F of the ip address applications on the web to force them to ssl (https)) and leave the other application http <br> > or will I have to make it all https if I chose that route?<br> <br> Thanks,<br>i <br> Chuck Aaron<br>  <br> </font></span></font>/ </body>o </html>f  ( --------------090507020305070600080107--   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:37:06 +0100 & From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@decus.ch>) Subject: Re: There goes the profit center_, Message-ID: <3886d7F5l9pmtU1@individual.net>   Dr. Dweeb wrote:   > Synchronicity !! >    Snap, though with more sucess.  N > This afternoon I got a call from a friend - he needed help printing from his > Epson C64. >  > Here are the facts.A > J > 1: The 3 color cartridges are registered as empty, despite the fact thatN > aside from the occasional test page, they have never been used.  They are in > fact almost full.:N > 2: A new black cartridge has been installed - however one can apparently not? > print anything at all if just one of the cartidges are empty.oI > 3: Upon examination, the replaced black cartridge was not empty either. H > 4: According to the status report, the installed colour cartridges are2 > standard size (ie. not half full to start with). >   B I fired up my Canon yesterday to print off a document with yellow G background shading, and it printed the black text fine, but the yellow   has obviously run out.  M > I installed SSC Service utility - no joy on this model. It seems Epson goeseM > to even greater lengths with each new generation to stop utilities like SSC  > from working.AN > I even shorted pin one on the chips as suggested.  It was still not possible6 > to get the printer to accept the cartridges as full.< > No amount of cajoling would convince the printer to print. > M > My friend will now have to pony up for 3 colour cartridges, plus the wastedwE > un-empty black cartridge, because EPSON is a disrepuatable company.  > N > The sad news is that I did not know this a month or two ago when I purchasedG > my Photo RX600 !!  I have installed SSC tonight and set it to use theiN > automatic frezze option, which I hope will save me from the fate that befellM > my friend.  Either way, I firmly believe he has every right to be seriouslyrG > pissed off and the quicker the courts crush this behaviour by printert* > companies, the better for all concerned. >   I Hmm. One of the reasons I chose a Canon was that going back to 2003 when  H these stories first emerged, some Canon guy (or maybe a dealer) claimed D that the Canon cartridges weren't timed. From my limited experience 3 (only 2 replacements so far) that seems to be true.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:06:16 -0500m? From: "David Turner, Island Computers US Corp" <david@hpaq.net>F' Subject: We need XP900 and DS10 systems-: Message-ID: <0BJTd.29221$u87.26564@bignews6.bellsouth.net>  C If you are getting rid of any DS10 or XP900 systems we need to hearM from you now !   We are also buying:c   ELSA GLoria Synergy PCI Cardsi VX1 Oxygen Cards PCI    ? We will trade for the newer RADEON 7500 PCI andpay for shippingt  : Also need your DS20e systems ES40 systems and ES45 systems   Thanks All and Bon Weekend !   DT   -- l0 ________________________________________________ David B Turner Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St, Suite 180 Savannah GA 31404o Tel: 912 447 6622 X201 Mobile: 912 447 6622 X251t Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.comu Web: http://www.islandco.com0 ________________________________________________   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:51:16 -0600g/ From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com>h; Subject: RE: WRQreflection 11: relocate settings directory?hT Message-ID: <DA4AD590CAF06845B671C398333A89C6082E211C@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  L In the About section of the product Reflection for UNIX and Digital is named Reflection 11.   EdE **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**n  o   > -----Original Message-----< > From: David J Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@comcast.net] + > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:23 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms= > Subject: Re: WRQreflection 11: relocate settings directory?i >  > jqq@myrealbox.com wrote: > > H > > I was hoping for something in the program, didn't even think of the 
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