/ INFO-VAX	Mon, 03 Jan 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 6       Contents: *CASH*CASH*CASH*= Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images = Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images = Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images = Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images  Re: DECnet IV address 1.0  Re: ftp P Re: Has anyone heard if any of our customers have been hurt by the tidal wave inP Re: Has anyone heard if any of our customers have been hurt by the tidal wave inM Re: I am looking for cheap or free vaxstations, decstations, or alphastations ) InfoServer scribe/CD-R keys ever surface? < Re: Is there a way, in DCL, to find if I logged-in using ssh< Re: Is there a way, in DCL, to find if I logged-in using ssh Re: More on Tru64  Re: More on Tru64  Re: Need UNIX clarification  RE: Need UNIX clarification  Re: OT: Reality check on RFID 6 RMS and Fast Delete: How to update alternate indexes ?: Re: RMS and Fast Delete: How to update alternate indexes ? Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2? 3 Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 2 Jan 2005 22:34:11 -0800 % From: "NeoOne" <Dariusjkelly@msn.com>  Subject: *CASH*CASH*CASH* C Message-ID: <1104734051.363147.156520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Neo Tech Party Administration  *CASH*CASH*CASH*   Posted By: B (205.188.197.157) Date: 01/02/05  C Turn $6.00 into $42,000...read this to find out how!!! READING THIS G COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! I found this on a bulletin board and decided to D try it. A little while back, I was browsing through newsgroups, justF like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that saidB you could make thousands of cash within weeks with only an initialE investment of $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah right, this must be a scam", F but like most of us, I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it saidD that you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and address stated in theF article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of theG list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are @ thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, andD talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured:B "what have I got to lose except 6 stamps and $6.00, right?" Then I@ invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS WHAT!!... within 7 days, IG started getting cash in the mail! I was shocked! I figured it would end F soon, but the cash just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about@ $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of overA $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still C growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just F over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in rapidly. It's certainly worthE $6.00, and 6 stamps, I have spent more than that on the lottery!! Let F me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....Also,B make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get theF information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you followE the directions exactly, that you will start making more cash than you B thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read thisC entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the D simple directions and watch the cash come in! It's easy. It's legal.D And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is? not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is ? virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following F instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends.C PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or C more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful @ because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. PleaseC continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You F will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business yourA product is not solid and tangible, it's a service. You are in the G business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy C to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the cash made from the G mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like B you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easyF steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write theF following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."E Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of C paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent D thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and sealB them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece ofB paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00B bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELYE LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for G it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about C the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post C Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! 0 Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:    9 1)Nathan Gilreath 6049 Porter Ave. East Lansing, MI 48823   ; 2)Beth Collins 1012 Woodbine Ave., Toronto, Ontario M4C 4C1   D 3) Melody McKinley 8 Huntingdon Drive Dartmouth, Nova Scotia B2V 1w1  * 4) C. Witt 12 Pine ST. Attleboro, MA 02703  0 5)Ben Ervin 1281 Cadillac Dr. Hamilton, OH 45013  4 6) D J Kelly 661 powell st apt # 3 Brooklyn Ny 11212  F STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move theF other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name asE number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to B keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post yourG amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to D 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post,@ the more cash you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have anyF doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws.D Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need cash,B you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program> remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of theG participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at G it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the D cash that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: YouB may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on aG computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES F that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good ideaD to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.)E So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, @ six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List? Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list E geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will F be receiving thousands of cash in CASH!!! What an opportunity for onlyC $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it : now, add your own name to the list and you're in business!E ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) E You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. D Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag yourF cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' from the editG menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer's memory. Step F 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of theG blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a copy E of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. D Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to doG your postings in different settings, you'll always have this file to go D back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searchingC for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, F discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this articleF as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selectingF paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the headerC that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a F particular group, click the post message button. You're done with yourE first one! Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to D different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, itC will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE E NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE Cash YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO E POST A MINIMUM OF 200** That's it! You will begin receiving cash from G around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box E due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay D anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman willE deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the G WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low E example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, A each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 G postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of E the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make D 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I willF bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around andB post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 repliesF each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part,G each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 D and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!!C Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups D with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react IC will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! C AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the E latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names C on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting A again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of D people all over the world are joining the internet and reading theseD articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00E and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if G the plan is played out and no one sends you the cash? So what! What are E the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users A and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups E everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to G 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual G internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 07:48:19 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>F Subject: Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images2 Message-ID: <craprj$clr$1@news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl>   Neil Rieck wrote: I >>CSWS V2.0 *demands* that all files are in stream-lf format. That is the A >>reason why many of us are still using the previous version :-).  >> > ( > I think this statement could be wrong. > N > SWS-2.0 (they've dropped the "C" from the product name starting with versionL > 2.0) only requires that TEXT files be converted to stream_lf. This because > of three reasons:  > E > 1. Apache 2.x now is required to do something called content-length M > filtering which means a browser may indicate to the server that it can only N > accept, lets say, 2KB chunks. After the server sends out 2KB to the browser,M > the browser may say to the server, "OK send the next 500 Bytes". The server E > needs to be able to easily compute the starting point of byte 2001.  > K > 2. Text files in VMS are stored as a sequence of variable-length records. I > You cannot determine the starting position of a given character without L > first reading through all the variable-length records up-to the one you're > looking for. > J > 3. HP didn't want to write any special code just to deal with VMS issuesH > (although I think they could have created a MOD_RMS for people wanting > backward compatibility)  > F > The following links may help to understand content-length filtering:@ > http://hypermail.linklord.com/new-httpd.old/2002/Aug/0374.html. > http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/filter.html= > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2001/08/23/apache_2.html  > C > I just pulled the following quote from this news group archive at F > www.deja.com where I did an advanced search for the word "CSWS" from > author "Rick Barry". > 	 > <quote> N > As a few posters already guessed, the stream-lf requirement for served filesM > was to minimize the portability (and maintenance) effort and to address the @ > problem of quickly determining the number of data bytes in theM > Content-Length calculation (without having to read every byte in the file).  > L > This requirement applies mainly to textual content, such as .HTML, .SHTML,M > and .TXT files, that are typically represented on VMS using variable-length I > record format. Binary data files, such as executables, are not an issue 8 > because fixed-length record format is also acceptable.  N Sounds logical. The strange thing is that Mozilla on VMS does like to see all Q files in Stream-LF format. A .JPG file in binary format will show up with a size  P of 0 bytes, change the attributes to Stream-LF and you will get the actual size , in bytes. Mozilla can display both formats !     >  > Rick Barry > OpenVMS System Software Group  > Hewlett-Packard Company  > Nashua, NH
 > </quote> >  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:19:13 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)F Subject: Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images6 Message-ID: <00A3D4D3.D8039BB7@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  r In article <1104725192.fe09f0edb9fd228326e3d630dbdee93c@teranews>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes:- >Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing wrote: P >> Most Apache development takes place on Unix/Linux/xBSD, which have for a long) >> time had heavily-cached file systems.   > ' >Fair enough. I hadn't thought of that.  > L >OK so lets turn the table. What would be the impact of changing VMS to haveK >STMLF as default file format for DCL commands such as OPEN, CREATE and for : >TPU/EDT ? What other utilities would need to be changed ? > J >Or are there too many utilities that are "mature" and which HP refuses toO >allocate development money on that such a change is really impossible on VMS ?   L This would seem likely to destroy backward compatibility for stuff customersI have generated.  For example, you'd need to arrange that files created by  $ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filenameB would be STMLF.  And you'd break non-system-supplied editors, etc.  K I really can't see making this change and keeping the customer base happy,  M unless you could control the behavior by something like saying "ODS-n volumes L initialized as Unix-compatible have a default file format of STMLF" and thenL have that handled properly, invisibly, by all utilities.  Customers who need# old behavior would stay with ODS-2.    -- Alan    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 06:03:13 -0800  From: bob@instantwhip.com F Subject: Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large ImagesC Message-ID: <1104760993.884565.226950@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    Neil Rieck wrote:  > F > Your analysis is correct. The script doesn't look for anything other thanB > VMS text files which means JPG files don't need to be converted. > E > Have you checked your Apache error log? (You'll need to restart the  server > to look at it) >  > Last resort test: ? > I see that you are a hobbyist. Try shutting down MultiNet and 
 installingG > HP's "TCPIP Services for OpenVMS". If your problem goes away then you  knowF > that there is a bug with the stack. (this is how I solved my TCPware related ! > problem which I documented here G > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/csws_tips.html#intermittent-cgi  )  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html  G My analysis is that the bugs are in that unix kernel tcp/ip for vms ... @ TCPware runs perfect with purveyor ... if compaq would have onlyC listened and bought purveyor from process, then they would of had a @ bullet proof web server that would have required little work ...   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:00:11 -0500, From: "Richard Whalen" <WhalenR@process.com>F Subject: Re: CSWS 2.0 + MultiNet 5.0 - Problem Displaying Large Images+ Message-ID: <crbj5e$99n$1@news.process.com>   4 "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in message5 news:lrCBd.69994$Tn1.2222960@news20.bellglobal.com...  > C > "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> wrote in message @ > news:craigberry-E2F14A.10162801012005@news.isp.giganews.com...F > > In article <1104525457.285867.10110@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,. > > "Rich Faust" <faustrj@fastspot.net> wrote: > > F > >> Anyone else using CSWS V2.0 with MultiNet V5.0 on OpenVMS V7.3-2? > >>1 > >> If so, any problems displaying large images?  > > J > > Are the files in stream format?  Be sure to read the know problems andD > > restrictions section of the release notes, currently located at: > >  > > I http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_relnotes_20.ht  > > ml#known > >  > > (unwrap that if necessary) > H > A few months back, I encountered a file-size problem with CSWS-2.0 andD > TCPware (which is a sister product to MultiNet since they are both producedD > by Process Software Corp.). I reported the problem to PSC and they	 responded H > with patch "DRIVERS_V562P051". So my advice to you is to make sure you haveK > the most recent MultiNet patches installed then report the problem to PSC  if > this doesn't help. > A > Referring them to the TCPware patch I just referenced may help.  >  > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > Ontario, Canada.: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.htmlJ > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/csws_tips.html#sws20 CSWS-2.0 tips >  >   K When I was trying to figure out the problem that Neil Rieck had I tried his  example L with MultiNet and did not experience the problem.  So, if there is a problem with4 MultiNet, it is not the same problem as TCPware had.  I Though I have been following this thread, I do not currently have time to  investigate 2 problems that are not being reported by customers.     ---------------------------  Richard Whalen Process Software   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:35:23 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) " Subject: Re: DECnet IV address 1.03 Message-ID: <+gkd8CqcO5Ej@eisner.encompasserve.org>   w In article <cqmm10$egd$1@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  > F > Was DECnet EVER a prerequisite for clustering?  I realise that some K > applications (PHONE) might not work properly in a cluster if there is no  E > DECnet (fortunately, MONITOR can be run over TCPIP), but that is a  K > mistake of the writer of the application---I don't think DECnet was ever  ' > a prerequisite for clustering per se.   ?    No.  Although DECnet was assumed, and implied by some of the B    installation instructions, I know of systems which ran clusters=    without DECnet from the earliest releases of "VAXcluster".    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 08:06:07 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: ftp3 Message-ID: <HtT51USmCm12@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <3EBAd.1528$df.93066@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Brian" <n9000@hotmail.com> writes: < > is there a way to ftp from the vax to the Windows server?   E    Since we've all been doing it for years, there must be a way.  The H    usual difficulty is that Windows doesn't normally have its ftp server    running.   B    Most people use an ftp client on thier Windows systems, and ftpD    servers on thier servers.  Beware of Windows GUI ftp systems that,    don't follow the RFP re:  NLIST vs. LIST.   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:58:02 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Y Subject: Re: Has anyone heard if any of our customers have been hurt by the tidal wave in 3 Message-ID: <j5ZrUTKLtB+8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <1104522977.046874.154790@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, susan_skonetski@hotmail.com writes: E > The BBC does much better news but we do not get he BBC here which I + > miss very much since I moved from the UK.  >  > Sue   D    Complain to your cable supplier.  We get the BBC news on multipleD    channels every night, and just after 9/11 we got CBC news too.  ID    found it very helpfull in those days to know what the rest of theD    world was thinking.  I can't even count the number of non-English    news broadcasts we receive.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:15:37 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> Y Subject: Re: Has anyone heard if any of our customers have been hurt by the tidal wave in * Message-ID: <41D97DB5.75F22A21@nobody.org>   Bob Koehler wrote:F >    Complain to your cable supplier.  We get the BBC news on multiple >    channels every night,  U PBS in the USA carry  one version of a recorded BBC world service 30 minute newscast.   K But BBC World is a 7/24 news channel that generally has 30 minute newscasts M followed by 30 minutes of documentaries , interviews, information etc. (there I is one IT related program called Click Online). Hardtalk (interviews with L world leaders/figures) is extremely good. They had Hans Blix reveal a LOT ofM stuff that USA media refused to air, they interviewed Mikael Gorbachev during N the Beslan massacre and that was quite revealing about what Putin was actuallyI doing with his "reforms" and why he was doing it. And they aired the full N interview with Kofi Anan instead of the USA channels which just mentioned that) Anan had called the USA invasion illegal.   L And they also have the World Business Report which is extremely good becauseJ it isn't focused on one region of the world. And they have it both late atI night (North American time) which covers the closing of asian markets and M opening of euro markets, as well as late afternoon in north america to covers ( what happened in north america that day.  J http://www.bbcworld.com/content/template_home.asp?pageid=1  bypasses their8 silly javascript-only home page and gets to to content).   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:54:50 -0500% From: "DAVID TURNER" <DAVID@HPAQ.NET> V Subject: Re: I am looking for cheap or free vaxstations, decstations, or alphastations0 Message-ID: <10tiq873nmubaa0@news.supernews.com>   eric= if you don't mind cosmetic damage, I have some alpha pws500au  you canhave one for $150 no graphics cards though includes cdrom and 128mb memory  us shipping costs about $45    DT   --   Island Computers US Corp 2700 Gregory St Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 4476622 Fax: 912 201 0402  Email: dbturner@icusc.com     2 "Eric Loyd" <Eric.Loyd@gmail.com> wrote in message7 news:6c905686.0411190810.6463894c@posting.google.com... G > I am a recovering unemployed computer professional who is looking for = > jobs.  One of the skills I would like to refresh on is VMS.  > C > Does anyone have any sort of old DEC workstation (or server) that E > they'd be willing to part with for free or a small fee?  I'll cover 5 > shipping to US ZIP 14505 if anyone can help me out.  > ; > Email replies to eric.loyd@gmail.com, please.  Thank you.  >  > -Eric    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:20:35 -0800 ' From: phil@rephil.org (Phil Mendelsohn) 2 Subject: InfoServer scribe/CD-R keys ever surface?= Message-ID: <4ee9bf09.0501030720.431a8de7@posting.google.com>   ? I've done my homework -- if badly -- and can't find anything on D usenet, eisner, or the freeware disks.  There was rumour a couple of= years ago that InfoServer tape / CD-R functions might be made ( available (for hobbyist use); have they?  @ Since I don't apparently have an SCSI card that will run with my@ PWS-500au, and all my old SCSI stuff has large 50-pin connectors? (internally), I'm hoping this will let me use the IS to connect E CD-ROM/CD-R and Exabyte 8mm drive, so I can get my external cables to  connect.  . Thanks, and sorry if I'm beating a dead horse.   Phil Mendelsohn    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 08:01:21 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) E Subject: Re: Is there a way, in DCL, to find if I logged-in using ssh 3 Message-ID: <1UTjbkSlwLS8@eisner.encompasserve.org>   e In article <1104324105.678340.52110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "amk" <sumdavar@yahoo.com> writes:  > 	 > HI all,  > : > I need a way (in DCL, if possible) to  find, from within? > an existing process, if this process was logged-in using SSH. C > As a matter of fact, I want to deny access from interactive users $ > trying to login without using SSH.  K    What alternatives do they have?  TELNET, CTERM, RTPAD, serial lines ...  K    can all be disabled.  Then there won't be any interactive processes not  0    using SSH except the occaisional one on OPA0:   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 08:02:13 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) E Subject: Re: Is there a way, in DCL, to find if I logged-in using ssh 3 Message-ID: <D7A$jjt02ywF@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <04122912051187@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org (Steven M. Schweda) writes:   > alp $ show logi tt) >    "TT" = "_FTA41:" (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)  > G >    RLOGIN/RSH and TELNET give "_TNAxx:".  Perhaps FTA is distinctive.       DECterms are all FT.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:29:58 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)  Subject: Re: More on Tru643 Message-ID: <vID3YdcwaTiO@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <8rpogcHKATDZ@cuebid.zko.dec.com>, brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  > L > BLISS (Basic Language for Implementation of System Software) is considered > to be high-level language.  ?    I always heard it as Bill's Language for Implementing System @    Software, but I understand Bill denies that it is an acronym.        ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 05:47:50 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: Re: More on Tru64( Message-ID: <opsj04l0iizgicya@hyrrokkin>  + On 3 Jan 2005 07:29:58 -0600, Bob Koehler   0 <koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote:  1 > In article <8rpogcHKATDZ@cuebid.zko.dec.com>,   3 > brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks) writes:  >>D >> BLISS (Basic Language for Implementation of System Software) is  
 >> considered  >> to be high-level language.  > A >    I always heard it as Bill's Language for Implementing System B >    Software, but I understand Bill denies that it is an acronym. > C Having now looked briefly at the ref man, I fail to see how any can C claim that it is a high level language - it has a very low level of  abstraction.   --  C Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:49:51 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) $ Subject: Re: Need UNIX clarification3 Message-ID: <YHmrNWrgwFV7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   f In article <BbfAd.21823$Tn1.735381@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> writes: > I > So here's my question. Is it true that most flavors of UNIX are single  ' > threaded? Is LINUX? Is HP-UX? Is AIX? N > I was lead to believe that Tru64 was multi-threaded and this was one reason G > why HP couldn't move AdvFs and TruCluster support from Tru64 into HP.   F    The original UNIX kernel was single threaded.  Simplicity.  DecadesH    later the original Linux was single threaded as Linus thought all theG    issues multi-threaded kernels solve should be relegated to hardware, E    and he admired simplicity.  (Guess what embedded systems are used      inside the "hardware").  D    Note that this is not the same as having kernel support for POSIXG    threads.  Most kernels have that now, but they don't themselves have     to be multi-threaded.  C    AIX was and HP-UX uses a BSD kernel, which was single threaded.  F    Since this is sufficient for most uses, I don't think there's a lotC    of pressure on the vendors to make their kernels multi-threaded.   =    VMS, like RSX, was multi-threaded from day 1 (WNT is not).   I    Tru64 had a kernel option to improve real-time response, but enabling  I    it required increased kernel overhead for most applications.  It's not 1    clear how multi-threaded this made the kernel.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:12:21 -0600* From: Michael Clark <MClark@Nemschoff.com>$ Subject: RE: Need UNIX clarificationQ Message-ID: <A2A28DB6D52E084783ACD6E6C6F5D7900274F9A7@EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com>   . > "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in5 > news:BbfAd.21823$Tn1.735381@news20.bellglobal.com:  B > > Our shop spends 95% of our time developing/maintaining OpenVMSG > > software for an internal application and ~5% of our time doing UNIX H > > system admin work. We've run into problems from time-to-time where aD > > single application (DHCP for example) will seem consume too manyG > > resources which resulted in PANIC messages at the console of one of  > > our Solaris boxes.   > C > Well, of course, this should not happen presuming the machine is   > reasonably well provisioned. > H > > When we talked to the system vendor for this particular application,F > > we were told the following "most UNIX operating systems are singleF > > threaded so we should invest in a multi-blade solution where a web< > > server runs on one blade, DHCP on a second, Oracle on a  > third, and so > > > on". When you hear something like this, you don't know if  > it's true orE > > whether some salesman trying to sell you more hardware (or both).  > < > No, unix solutions do not work this way.  This is the way  > many Windows  @ > shops end up operating.  Since the apps are so unpredictable,  > it's best G > to give them each their own 'blade'.  BTW unix was invented 20 years  7 > before the word 'blade' came in to its current usage.   H Yes!  I currently have about 5 windows machines at the office, doing theK exact same amount of work I would do on a single BSD installation.  Totally * because things crash on windows much more.   > D > > p.s. we solved our problem by moving the DHCP function to an oldH > > AS-2100 sitting in the back room and it has been happily running forH > > over a year now without a peep (currently serving up 150,000 address > > from a 50 segment pool). >  > Not really a surprise. > @ > > So here's my question. Is it true that most flavors of UNIX  > are single) > > threaded? Is LINUX? Is HP-UX? Is AIX? H > > I was lead to believe that Tru64 was multi-threaded and this was oneG > > reason why HP couldn't move AdvFs and TruCluster support from Tru64 
 > > into HP.    $ Why would Unix be single threaded?     >  > See the other's comments...  >    > > Neil Rieck! > > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > > Ontario, Canada.= > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html C > >  > >  >     A CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including alllL attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom it isL addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be distributed,L copied or disclosed. The contents of the transmission may also be subject toJ intellectual property rights and all such rights are expressly claimed andG are not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, pleasemH notify the sender immediately by return electronic transmission and thenH immediately delete this transmission, including all attachments, without* copying, distributing or disclosing same.    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 07:20:28 -0800e' From: "Zombiewire" <zombiewire@cox.net>t& Subject: Re: OT: Reality check on RFIDC Message-ID: <1104765628.895492.111840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>a  
 Opposition  B * Stop RFID (http://www.spychips.com/index.html), an activist site/ devoted to exposing privacy problems with RFID. 4 * RFID Consumers report (http://www.zombiewire.com/) * EFF position on RFID/ (http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/RFID/)VB * See also privacy external links for privacy rights organizations on the topic..   [edit]   Industry associationse  2 * EPCglobal website (http://www.epcglobalinc.org/); * Association for Automatic Identification and Data CapturesA Technologies (http://www.aimglobal.org/technologies/rfid/), trade  association webpage about RFID   [edit]  % Industry gazettes, journals and blogs   = * RFID Gazette (http://www.rfidgazette.org/), providing daily- RFID-related newsa0 * The Future Is Here: A Beginner's Guide to RFIDC (http://www.rfidgazette.org/2004/06/rfid_101.html), an RFID Gazette1 essay. (June 2004)4 * RFID Consumers report (http://www.zombiewire.com/)7 * RFIDbuzz: Website (http://www.rfidbuzz.com/) and Wikie (http://www.rfidbuzz.com/wiki/),2 * RFID Journal: Michelin Embeds RFID Tags in Tires9 (http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/269/1/1/)dC * RFID Log (http://www.rfidlog.com/), industry news service on RFIDr. innovation, implementation and legal processes: * RFID News (http://www.rfidnews.org/), weblog and monthly% e-magazine covering the RFID Industryi& * RFID and Contactless technology NewsF (http://www.contactlessnews.com/), free resource for breaking news andE research on the use of contactless and radio frequency identification6@ technologies. Profit, privacy, and the battle for control of theB emerging technology are frequently covered topics in this industry leading resource.0@ * MoreRFID.com (http://www.morerfid.com/), free RFID information site.k8 * RFID Global Resource Link (http://www.byvalor.com/), aF comprehensive directory for system integrators to have quick access to" all global RFID-related resources.B * RFID: Points of View (http://www.rfidpov.com) provides a central3 resource for accessing a variety of stories on RFIDlC * RFID Directory (http://www.rfidintegration.net/rfiddir/) Articlesa% and links to current RFID informationo? * AICPA (http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/nov2004/davis.htm) RFIDI@ tags in finance from the Journal of Accountancy. (November 2004)   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 06:23:12 -0800i+ From: henri.benoit@capgemini.com (H Benoit)6? Subject: RMS and Fast Delete: How to update alternate indexes ?e= Message-ID: <611c47af.0501030623.13e932ad@posting.google.com>k  D When I am reading VMS documentation on "fast delete" feature for RMS file, and I can read that:  E " RMS does not attempt to remove any of the pointers from alternativey indexes to the deleted record."    and,  ? "You improve performance by postponing the processing needed toa? eliminate the pointers from alternative indexes to the record."F  : So I don't see any where How To "eliminate the pointers" ?  ) I suppose I have to use CONVERT utility. n  % Does anybody clarify how to do that ?s   Thank's for your helpt   Henri;   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 10:28:43 -0600!- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)hC Subject: Re: RMS and Fast Delete: How to update alternate indexes ?s3 Message-ID: <HWjiXmtXhWTj@eisner.encompasserve.org>o  k In article <611c47af.0501030623.13e932ad@posting.google.com>, henri.benoit@capgemini.com (H Benoit) writes: F > When I am reading VMS documentation on "fast delete" feature for RMS > file, and I can read that: > G > " RMS does not attempt to remove any of the pointers from alternatives! > indexes to the deleted record."Y >  > and, > A > "You improve performance by postponing the processing needed toaA > eliminate the pointers from alternative indexes to the record."o > < > So I don't see any where How To "eliminate the pointers" ? > + > I suppose I have to use CONVERT utility. i > ' > Does anybody clarify how to do that ?c  ( Does the command CONVERT/RECLAIM do it ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 07:56:23 -0600L. From: Alphaman <alphaman-nix-spam@alphant.com>$ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras5 Message-ID: <cacCd.935$Vt5.634@fe40.usenetserver.com>t  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:hF > Is the 8-cm CD a common format, likely to be around for a while?  (IF > don't have a ruler handy, but I gather this is smaller than a normal > CD.) a  H The format has definitely become more popular here in the States.  Most C computer and electronics stores now carry 8cm media (both CD-R and  ? CD-RW), with many also offering it in bulk spindles (25 to 50).o  H Yes, it is smaller than a normal CD, and only contains about 180 MB per D disk.  Sony will want to sell you their version, but they only hold ' about 150 MB and accordingly cost more.w   > Wow!  ? That's what I thought when I first discovered the concept, too!   H > Thanks for the info.  So, with this camera, I could take photographs, I > have them all on CD automatically and immediately, and view this CD on 1* > VMS, with no need for a PC at any stage.  E Absolutely correct.  Oh, the CDs do work in many of the photo kiosks #G around, as most will have a CD drive in them.  You finalize your CD in uC the camera, place it in the drive in the kiosk, and out comes your .H print.  I don't know what the availability of such kiosks is in Europe, I but here in the states, they are quite readily available with many large oK chains like Target, Wal-Mart, and Wolf Camera, for example, hosting kiosks.c   > What does this camera cost?n  E Prices vary, but they are available globally, with the US list price sI being $300 for a floppy based unit, to $400 for a 3.2 MP CD and $600 for  D a 5 MP CD.  If you are thinking of shooting any volume of photos, I H would definitely stay away from the floppy based unit.  That's good for E realtors or insurance adjusters who need but a handful of shots of a nC subject -- not for photographers of any other need.  Street prices h, should be substantially below these numbers.  H The Mavica line of cameras is how Sony became #1 in digital photography H many years back.  IIRC, there was one point where Mavicas were over 50% F of the digital camera market in the world.  The ease of use, platform F portability, and permanent archive, when mixed with the decent optics C and feature set (including lots of manual mode adjustments for the  A diehard photo bug) have made the line of CD Mavicas very popular.o  E There are some things it is lacking.  A smaller form factor would be sG nice, but is impractical given the media.  A better optical zoom would rI be nice (currently limited to 3x).  Since you've got to write each photo tF to CD after taking it, the delay between shots can be long if you are H shooting hi-res/hi-quality photos (I typically shoot 2272x1520, 3.4 MP, G and they take up 900K-1M, with an inter-shot gap of 2-4 seconds.)  The sE video quality on my older CD400 is good, and 320x240 is surprisingly tG sufferable, even on my HDTV, although I do wish I had a new CD500 with iF 640x480 video.  My CD400 has one distinct drawback in the video area: F you can NOT zoom the lens while taking a video; this may have changed K with the CD500, so if it's important to you, check this out before you buy.   
 Best regards,n Aaron    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:31:55 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>$ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras, Message-ID: <33tdseF44fkmcU1@individual.net>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:iA > I'm considering moving from conventional 35mm film to a digitalk	 > camera.) >...  H You might want to check out http://www.gphoto.org/. I have not tried it,  but it might compile/run on VMS.  F Nikon is supposed to have (or maybe I should say, "soon will have" - IE have not paid enough attention to know if they are on the market yet)cE some cameras that support PTP over IP, but I have not looked at them.e  H OT: I prefer storing my images with the date/time the picture was taken,E so I wrote a Visual Basic Script that reads in the EXIF data from the ; JPG image and renames the file based to the date/time (i.e. G 20041225141031.JPG) that the camera stored in the file. If anyone wantst3 a copy send me an e-mail and I will send it to you.*   -- E Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.C Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAXA www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:17:46 GMTt, From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>$ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras& Message-ID: <41D988D9.60E172BA@hp.com>  ? 	To answer the question yes USB support is standard on all the iD IA64 office and rack mount systems.  The cell based big iron systemsD do not have USB at the present time.  That may change in the future.  B 	In V8.2 for IA64 there is limited support for USB mass storage.  F But that only gets you part of the way to what you need.  The missing A piece is FAT16/32 support.  Many of the cameras that support USB d5 connections provide a mode to see the storage device r= Smart DISK/Compact Flash/Memory Stick etc. as a FAT formated   disk.o  ; 	In addition many of the cameras have a mode where you can ,D control them from you computer.  This is frequently done using TWAINE support and allows you to control and take pictures under the control0F of your computer.  It is highly unlikely that the OpenVMS group would  ever add TWAIN support.m  = 	There have been a number of hallway discussion about adding  B FAT support and what form it would need to take.  If folks really C believe that FAT support is needed in OpenVMS please let folks likes# Sue Skonetski and Mark Gorham know.0     Forrest Kenney n OpenVMSo   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 08:10:13 -0600 ; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)t< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?3 Message-ID: <2Q5ddpB6PoSM@eisner.encompasserve.org>   r In article <1104459622.5d7390b002ca94ef0ffeef9502c91c26@teranews>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: > Re: USB drives on VMSL > N > Forget Itanium. I want USB on my all mighty Microvax II.  Backing up 10 gigs) > on TK50s takes more than a year :-) ;-)   :    Let us all know when you find that Qbus to USB adapter.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:37:06 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>h< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <fuWdncM2dsgB-0TcRVn-vA@igs.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:G > In article <1104459622.5d7390b002ca94ef0ffeef9502c91c26@teranews>, JFL. > Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> writes: >> Re: USB drives on VMS >>G >> Forget Itanium. I want USB on my all mighty Microvax II.  Backing up 2 >> 10 gigs on TK50s takes more than a year :-) ;-) >n< >    Let us all know when you find that Qbus to USB adapter.    + Maybe with appropriate gender changers..... L http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=EnJ glish+US&prodkey=USBXchange&cat=%2fTechnology%2fUSB%2fUSB-to-SCSI+Adapters   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:46:30 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <33tb79F42pub1U1@individual.net>   John Smith wrote:e >...- > Maybe with appropriate gender changers.....i >eL http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=En >rH glish+US&prodkey=USBXchange&cat=%2fTechnology%2fUSB%2fUSB-to-SCSI+Adapte rs  D I bought one of those a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I still need toF find a "Adaptec 50 pin High Density Female to 50 pin low Density Male"E adapter (#1887200) to hook up the tape drive. Nobody has one of thesesD adapters in stock except for someone who wants 3 times the price forE shipping. A local store keeps telling me that they'll have one for me & next week, but next week keeps moving.  H My hope is that I will be able to visit a customer with CHARON-VAX on myE laptop and hook up either a TZ88 or TZ87 to show them that CHARON-VAX  works with their data.   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.h Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAXp www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:00:08 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> < Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <q4qdnZn-K9yP50TcRVn-jg@igs.net>   Peter Weaver wrote:d > John Smith wrote:r >> .... >> Maybe with appropriate gender changers..... >> >sL http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=En >>J > glish+US&prodkey=USBXchange&cat=%2fTechnology%2fUSB%2fUSB-to-SCSI+Adapte > rs >mF > I bought one of those a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I still need toH > find a "Adaptec 50 pin High Density Female to 50 pin low Density Male"G > adapter (#1887200) to hook up the tape drive. Nobody has one of thesecF > adapters in stock except for someone who wants 3 times the price forG > shipping. A local store keeps telling me that they'll have one for meh( > next week, but next week keeps moving. >lG > My hope is that I will be able to visit a customer with CHARON-VAX oni? > my laptop and hook up either a TZ88 or TZ87 to show them thatp# > CHARON-VAX works with their data.e     www.granitedigital.com  ???w   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:04:01 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>S< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <-d6dnYRpmotm50TcRVn-tA@igs.net>   Peter Weaver wrote:a > John Smith wrote:/ >> .... >> Maybe with appropriate gender changers..... >> > L http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=En >>J > glish+US&prodkey=USBXchange&cat=%2fTechnology%2fUSB%2fUSB-to-SCSI+Adapte > rs >WF > I bought one of those a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I still need toH > find a "Adaptec 50 pin High Density Female to 50 pin low Density Male"G > adapter (#1887200) to hook up the tape drive. Nobody has one of these>F > adapters in stock except for someone who wants 3 times the price forG > shipping. A local store keeps telling me that they'll have one for mem( > next week, but next week keeps moving. >iG > My hope is that I will be able to visit a customer with CHARON-VAX ont? > my laptop and hook up either a TZ88 or TZ87 to show them thati# > CHARON-VAX works with their data.E    L I was told by Adaptec a long time ago that this device (USB2xchange) was notL appropriate for use with DAT tape drives. Maybe something has changed in the interim.  E You might want to talk with a store that has a wholesale account with = EMJ/Synnex....they usually have decent stock of odd adapters.u   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:15:46 -0500s- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com>l< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?* Message-ID: <41D97DBE.1623B91F@nobody.org>   John Smith wrote:r> > >    Let us all know when you find that Qbus to USB adapter. > - > Maybe with appropriate gender changers.....-N > http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=EnL > glish+US&prodkey=USBXchange&cat=%2fTechnology%2fUSB%2fUSB-to-SCSI+Adapters  J This one is a SCSI to USB converter. I would need a USB to SCSI converter.2 (Yes, my All mighty Microvax II has a SCSI board).  M (USB is not sex neutral. there is a powered "server" and a unpowered "client"1N side, you can't plug two USB clients to each other, unless one is bisexual and! can switch from client to server.c  M The above gizmo is a client USB interface that is expected to be plugged intos' a server USB port (such as a computer).y   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:46:25 GMT , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?& Message-ID: <41D98181.7AD84D7A@hp.com>  ? 	As Fred Kleisorge has already stated we are working on it for  E V8.3.  For the time being I am still doing the work on V7.3-2 and if bF possible I will make it available as an add on for V8.2.  But this is G a work in progress and any number of things could delay or cause it to o be canceled.  = 	As some folks have seen or heard in V8.2 can boot off a USB _D mass storage device.  There are a couple of qualifications here, theD code as it exists in V8.2 is latent support for future systems that C may have USB DVD's for installation.  The code has not been tested wC and we know of problems using it as a system disk.  At the present lC time there are no plans to make USB mass storage devices supported  E as your system disk.  The second problem is that the firmware at the RF present time works with about 1/2 of all the USB mass storage devices B I have tried.  I am working with the owner of the firmware to get C this fixed.  His priority is to support a USB DVD for installation l6 any thing beyond this gets looked at when he has time.  @ 	Finally, until some work is done to the EFI standard supportingC USB 2.0 is a bit of a problem.  The EFI standard did not allow for gE multifunction USB controllers which makes it virtually impossible to tC correctly identify what disk and controller a system booted off of VA at run time.  There is work going on to rectify this problem and  @ hopefully by the 8.3 time frame that will be in place.  This is 3 not a gating item to our adding USB 2.0 to OpenVMS.e  , 	Here is what is in 8.2 for USB by platform:   Alpha					IA64D -------------------------------------	------------------------------ Lucent USS 344 controllere Philips ISP1516 controller b* NEC 7020100 Controller(1) 		NEC 7020100(1) Others(2)				Others(2)   USB Hubs all				USB hubs all# USB Printers(3)				USB Printers (3) 1 Prolific USB to serial 			Prolific USB to serial m USB Modems(4)				USB Modems(4)' Keyboard LK463 (5) 			Keyboard LK463(5)c
 Mice					Micem 					USB Mass storage Bulk onlyc! 					devices, Flash cards, Disks,  					DVD/CD's not floppies  : 1  - The NEC 70201001 should also work but I have not had       a chance to test it. 8 2  - In theory any controller based on the OHCI standard:      should work but you will need to add an entry for it /      in sys$user_config.dat and give it a shot.n; 3  - We only guarantee to send ASCII data to them correctlyn9      if they need special formatting the driver does not  
      do that.x2 4  - They must conform the the USB modem standard.A 5  - Other keyboards should work but not all features like extra e,      buttons, volume controls etc. will not.  8 	We have several drivers internally that may show up in D the future, like a joy stick driver, more USB to serial converters, A a button driver for keyboards with extra buttons.  We are looking-C at what of these make sense to release as well as evaluating a way  E to allow users to use a generic Human Interface Driver, button boxes CA etc. without having to write a driver.  We are also looking at a oC a generic USB driver to support random devices like USB smart card SE readers, scanners etc.  None of this is committed work and may never E	 get done.      Forrest Kenney
 OpenVMS Groupl   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:52:07 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <33tf2aF3qqo1lU1@individual.net>   John Smith wrote:c >... > www.granitedigital.com  ???h  A Thanks, I had not heard of them before. They want $39US for theirtH version. Adaptec sells their product for $10US + shipping and the famousG broker fees. Various retailers in Canada list it for between $15CDN and F $28CDN +shipping. None of the retailers I contacted in Canada have any> in stock, but one of these days the local guy will get one in.   -- n Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.8 Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.cam   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:54:20 -0500< From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>< Subject: Re: What's the state of USB 2.0 support in VMS 8.2?, Message-ID: <33tf6eF44m7voU1@individual.net>   John Smith wrote:l >...F > I was told by Adaptec a long time ago that this device (USB2xchange)G > was not appropriate for use with DAT tape drives. Maybe something hasS > changed in the interim.- >...  E I have no idea if it will work yet, but I figured there is no harm inp
 trying it.   -- e Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAXb www.weaverconsulting.cas   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.006 ************************