/ INFO-VAX	Tue, 04 Jan 2005	Volume 2005 : Issue 7       Contents: Re: How to get a free iPod? 5 How to get Tape Tools to recognize terminfo database? + Need help with user-written routine in SOR$  Re: Need UNIX clarification % New SKHPC's posted: July-October 2003 ) Re: New SKHPC's posted: July-October 2003  Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras  Re: VMS and digital cameras  website hosting  Re: xerces-c problem  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 12:29:11 -0800  From: drgarza@gmail.com $ Subject: Re: How to get a free iPod?B Message-ID: <1104784151.925984.92300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  > This article will give you step-by-step instructions on how toG successfully obtain your free iPod using freeipods.com for as little as F $1. Many think that this site is a scam or a pyrimid sceam. A scam no,G a pyrimid yes, a sceam no. You do have to put forth some sort of effort @ to get a free iPod. You must get five friends or relatives to do exactly the following...    / Step 1: Click here to go to the free iPod site. $ http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=12541248: To participate in this great offer you must live in the US    C Step 2: Use an email address at the bottom of the page and choose a G password. (they will send you email, so please use a secondary account)     C Step 3: Fill out all required shipping information. This tells them  where to send your iPod.    E Step 4: (Do not exit at this point) This is the part that over 90% of G the people start thinking: "Maybe this isn't for real." They present to A you 10 different "optional" offers. These are not any of the real / offers needed to complete the getting the iPod.     @ Step 5: Skip all of the previous offers and you get to the referG friends page. You can start sending emails to your friends here or skip  this step and do it later.    F Step 6: Complete an offer. This is where real companies like AOL, RealE Networks and more are advertising through freeIpods.com. This is what @ makes them successfull. Choose an offer and purchase or sign up.G (Choose the RealNetworks Real Rapsody. This cost $1...yes $1 dollar for F 30 days. Cancel anytime. Even if you forget its only $10 a month afterB the first month. For signing up they also give you 5 free songs toG burn. This is the best offer. Nothing is free, but an iPod for a dollar F and a little work is worth it. Some offers change. There is always oneG offer where you pay next to nothing or just sign up for a 30 day trial.     @ Step 7: Get your friends to do the same thing. Even if you don't+ complete it you get to download five songs.     F Note: Completing an offer and not signing up your friends is what theyG are counting on. It is more likely you get intreagued and then give up. G This doesn't mean that it is a scam. All you must do it finish. If this E still sounds to good to be true then go pay $300 for a new iPod. Have  patience and good luck.     1 If you haven't started yet. Get your iPod here!!! $ http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=12541248   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:45:51 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)> Subject: How to get Tape Tools to recognize terminfo database?6 Message-ID: <00A3D555.4B511526@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>   OpenVMS Alpha 7.3-2  DS20E 3 "HP StorageWorks Library and Tape Tools User Guide"  DCL; GNV not installed.   M I downloaded the tape tool PCSI kit, reset file attributes, and INSTALLed it. O According to the docs, it needs the terminfo database to run.  I googled around O and found somebody else had been looking for this last June, and I followed the M suggestion that guy had gotten to get termtypes.ti.giz off Eric Raymond's web  page.   M So I GUNZIPed the file and put it in SYS$SYSDEVICE:[USR.LOCAL.SHARE.TERMINFO]  as TERMTYPES.TI   L It seems to be a readable text file.   Manual says to define USR to point at& the the top level directory, so I did:   $sho log usr4    "USR" = "SYS$SYSDEVICE:[USR]" (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)   $ SET TERM/DEV=VT100  $ run sys$common:[opt.ltt]hp_ltt Error opening terminal: vt100.  M Which apparently tries to run the project, but I guess t can't find the VT100  entry in the database.   $ SET WATCH FILE /CLASS=MAJOR   . doesn't seem to show it looking for this file.  # TERMINFO>set watch file/class=major I %XQP, Thread #0, Deaccess (549,7,0) Reads: 6, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001 ' TERMINFO>run sys$common:[opt.ltt]hp_ltt B %XQP, Thread #0, Access HP_LTT.EXE;1 (50203,60,0) Status: 00000001@ %XQP, Thread #0, Access PPLRTL.EXE;1 (1792,7,0) Status: 000000016 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (50203,60,0) Status: 00000001B %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup HP_LTT.EXE;1 (50203,60,0) Status: 000000015 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (37111,3,0) Status: 00000001 H %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup DECC$SHR_EV56.EXE;1 (37111,3,0) Status: 000000016 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (20874,16,0) Status: 00000001D %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup DPML$SHR.EXE;1 (20874,16,0) Status: 000000014 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (1792,7,0) Status: 00000001@ %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup PPLRTL.EXE;1 (1792,7,0) Status: 000000018 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (44897,1440,0) Status: 00000001I %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup PTHREAD$RTL.EXE;1 (44897,1440,0) Status: 00000001 4 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (1636,7,0) Status: 00000001E %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup CMA$TIS_SHR.EXE;1 (1636,7,0) Status: 00000001 6 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (44595,31,0) Status: 00000001B %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup LIBRTL.EXE;1 (44595,31,0) Status: 000000014 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (1759,7,0) Status: 00000001@ %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup LIBOTS.EXE;1 (1759,7,0) Status: 000000014 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (1634,7,0) Status: 00000001A %XQP, Thread #0, Access CMA$RTL.EXE;1 (1634,7,0) Status: 00000001 > %XQP, Thread #0, Control function  (1634,7,0) Status: 00000001J %XQP, Thread #0, Deaccess (1634,7,0) Reads: 3, Writes: 0, Status: 000000011 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910 1 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910 1 %XQP, Thread #0, Lookup  (0,0,0) Status: 00000910  Error opening terminal: vt100.N %XQP, Thread #0, Deaccess (50203,60,0) Reads: 249, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001K %XQP, Thread #0, Deaccess (1792,7,0) Reads: 10, Writes: 0, Status: 00000001     M Where can I put my terminfo file and what can I define to get LTT to use it?  # If this isn't the problem, what is?    Thanks,    -- Alan    ------------------------------   Date: 3 Jan 2005 19:26:59 -0800  From: hoefelmeyer@hotmail.com 4 Subject: Need help with user-written routine in SOR$C Message-ID: <1104809219.123603.315000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   2 Hi, everyone, I hope someone can help with this...   OS: OpenVMS 7.3 
 System: Alpha  Language: BASIC   G I'm trying to write a user-written routine for the user_equal parameter E in SOR$BEGIN_SORT. I have to pass the routine by reference, so it has @ to be an external routine to use LOC. Also, Sort/merge calls theD routine with 5 reference arguments ADRS1, ADRS2, LENG1, LENG2, CNTX,G which are the addresses of the two records to compare, pointers to word F structures containing length information, and the context longword. InG the user-written routine, I want to compare a non-sort-key field of the A two records and select which of the two to discard based on those 5 values. I will always keep one and discard the other.   # Here's what I think I need to do --    Main module: ... " EXTERNAL LONG FUNCTION FN_SORT_EQ% ...  SORT_EQ% = LOC(FN_SORT_EQ%)  ... = STATUS% = SOR$BEGIN_SORT(SORT.BUF,LRL%,,,,SORT_EQ%,,SRTTYPE%)  ...    External function module: D FUNCTION LONG FN_SORT_EQ% (STRING REC_1 BY REF, STRING REC_2 BY REF,/ WORD LEN_1 BY REF, WORD LEN_2 BY REF, LONG CTX) ( EXTERNAL WORD SOR$_DELETE1, SOR$_DELETE29 IF SEG$(REC_1, 350%, 358%) < SEG$(REC_2, 350%, 358%) THEN  FN_SORT_EQ% = SOR$_DELETE1 ELSE FN_SORT_EQ% = SOR$_DELETE2 END IF END FUNCTION  F The outcome I wish is that if the REC_1 field < the REC_2 field, REC_1+ is discarded, otherwise REC_2 is discarded.   B Is this correct? I think I'm missing something (or perhaps severalF things). The 3rd and 4th arguments passed to the function are supposedF to be pointers to word structures containing length information, but IG don't have a clue what those structures consist of. I don't really care E what's in them because I don't need them - the records I am comparing E will always be the same length, but I'm not certain if I can just not B declare them and they would be ignored. Is this even close or am I) completely misunderstanding the VMS docs?    Thanks in advance, Cheryl   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:02:01 GMT < From: Bob Harris <nospam@sorry.I.have.been.harvested.before>$ Subject: Re: Need UNIX clarification; Message-ID: <nospam-FCD885.22015903012005@news.verizon.net>    In article  F <A2A28DB6D52E084783ACD6E6C6F5D7900274F9A7@EMAILSERVER2.nemschoff.com>,,  Michael Clark <MClark@Nemschoff.com> wrote:  0 > > "Neil Rieck" <n.rieck@sympatico.ca> wrote in7 > > news:BbfAd.21823$Tn1.735381@news20.bellglobal.com:  D > > > Our shop spends 95% of our time developing/maintaining OpenVMSI > > > software for an internal application and ~5% of our time doing UNIX J > > > system admin work. We've run into problems from time-to-time where aF > > > single application (DHCP for example) will seem consume too manyI > > > resources which resulted in PANIC messages at the console of one of  > > > our Solaris boxes.   > > E > > Well, of course, this should not happen presuming the machine is    > > reasonably well provisioned. > > J > > > When we talked to the system vendor for this particular application,H > > > we were told the following "most UNIX operating systems are singleH > > > threaded so we should invest in a multi-blade solution where a web> > > > server runs on one blade, DHCP on a second, Oracle on a  > > third, and so @ > > > on". When you hear something like this, you don't know if  > > it's true orG > > > whether some salesman trying to sell you more hardware (or both).  > > > > > No, unix solutions do not work this way.  This is the way  > > many Windows  B > > shops end up operating.  Since the apps are so unpredictable,  > > it's best I > > to give them each their own 'blade'.  BTW unix was invented 20 years  9 > > before the word 'blade' came in to its current usage.  > J > Yes!  I currently have about 5 windows machines at the office, doing theM > exact same amount of work I would do on a single BSD installation.  Totally , > because things crash on windows much more. >  > > F > > > p.s. we solved our problem by moving the DHCP function to an oldJ > > > AS-2100 sitting in the back room and it has been happily running forJ > > > over a year now without a peep (currently serving up 150,000 address > > > from a 50 segment pool). > >  > > Not really a surprise. > > B > > > So here's my question. Is it true that most flavors of UNIX  > > are single+ > > > threaded? Is LINUX? Is HP-UX? Is AIX? J > > > I was lead to believe that Tru64 was multi-threaded and this was oneI > > > reason why HP couldn't move AdvFs and TruCluster support from Tru64  > > > into HP.    I Threading issues was _NOT_ the reason AdvFS and TruClusters on HP-UX was  
 not released.   F As for threading, the Tru64 UNIX kernel is multi-threaded.  HP-UX was F multi-threaded.  AdvFS and TruClusters used lots of kernel threads on  Tru64 UNIX and HP-UX.   H Besides, it would not matter if there were multiple threads per process F or just using lots of processes.  Inside the kernel _EVERYTHING_ _IS_ > _GLOBAL_ if you know where to look.  And the main advantage a D multi-threaded process has over multiple processes, is that in user H space the threads of a process share the same address space (except for D their stacks, and those are accessable to other threads if you know C where to look).  In side the kernel, a process and a thread are on  G basically equal footing when it comes to being able to access any part  A of the kernel address space.  Neither has any specific advantage.   A Now I will acknowledge there are other differences, but from the  C perspective of AdvFS and TruClusters working inside kernel address  B space, it would not really matter.  And besides, HP-UX had kernel A threads, so this does not apply to discussions of whey AdvFS and   TruClusters were not released.   & > Why would Unix be single threaded?    G In days of old, and mostly in days where there was only 1 CPU in a box  A (no SMP systems), there was generally 1 thread off execution per  B process.  And of course there was no POSIX Threads (pthreads), or 4 DECthreads, or any other use more threading package.  D But along came 3 forces that made it desirable for threads.  Server D applications running in user space, SMP systems, and a way to allow I async I/O operations without needing to implement ASTs, signal handlers,  D etc...  Server processes found it very difficult to service lots of A users requests from a single process, and using lots of separate  B processes created memory sharing problems and work load balancing C problems (handing off tasks to other workers, especially a network   socket or open file).   I pthreads (and other user mode threading packages) helped solve the async  H and server problems, but without kernel threads it is harder to do, and I it does not allow a single process to take advantage of multiple CPUs in  A an SMP system.  But having kernel threads means that a user mode  I threading package can have several worker bee kernel threads to allow it  H to truly walk and chew gum at the same time, and to take full advantage  of an SMP system.   D So while I do not have any personal knowledge beyond Tru64 UNIX and I HP-UX, I would find it very hard to believe that any major vendor's UNIX  D implementation that runs on an SMP box is not also a multi-threaded  kernel.  Personal opinion only.   2                                         Bob Harris   > > See the other's comments...  > >    > > > Neil Rieck# > > > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,  > > > Ontario, Canada.? > > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html   > > >  > > >  > >  >  > C > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including all N > attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom it isN > addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be distributed,N > copied or disclosed. The contents of the transmission may also be subject toL > intellectual property rights and all such rights are expressly claimed andI > are not waived. If you have received this transmission in error, please J > notify the sender immediately by return electronic transmission and thenJ > immediately delete this transmission, including all attachments, without+ > copying, distributing or disclosing same.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:38:06 GMT ) From: \"@ <""kfarmer(\"@)spyderbyte.com"> . Subject: New SKHPC's posted: July-October 2003= Message-ID: <iigCd.16223$B66.530528@twister.southeast.rr.com>    New SKHPC's posted: 2 http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/pages.php?page=2003    I SKHPCV10N31 1 July 2003 McKinley Cometh, and HP is the Firstest With the  , Mostest; OpenVMS Officially Comes to Itanium  G SKHPCV10N32 8 July 2003 HP Engages in Some Very Aggressive HPUX/ Tru64  H FUD-Busting, A New Spin or Two on The Storage Marketplace; HP Happenings  H SKHPCV10N33 12 July 2003 SKHPC and Ken Farmer Take Another Pulse of the  VMS User Base; HP Happenings  A SKHPCV10N34 21 July 2003 HP Works the Web With Industry-Standard  G Approach to Management; A Hot Time in Hotlanta: SKHPC Provides a Final   HP World Preview  E SKHPCV10N35 1 August 2003 Sun, et al, Attack, HP Responds With Alpha   RetainTrust Program   G SKHPCV10N36 9 August 2003 HP Delivers More MARVEL-ous News With 32-way   Marvel System; HP Happenings  G SKHPCV10N37 10 August 2003 SKHPC Provides an Update on HPs AE and UDC   Strategies; HP Happenings   @ SKHPCV10N38 20 August 2003 HPs 3FQ03 Financials: Not Exactly a & Midsummer Nights Dream; HP Happenings  I SKHPCV10N39 24 August 2003 SKHPC Provides an In-Depth Review of HP World   2003  I SKHPCV10N40 3 September 2003 A Marketing Wake-Up Call for Our Friends at   Hewlett-Packard; HP Happenings  B SKHPCV10N41 8 September 2003 Hewlett-Packard Goes For the Grid to " Advance AE Strategy; HP Happenings  F SKHPCV10N42 18 September 2003 Intel Showcases Technology at Fall 2003 $ Intel Developer Forum; HP Happenings  C SKHPCV10N43 28 September 2003 SKHPC Helps Spread the VMS Gospel in  " Germany and Holland; HP Happenings  D SKHPCV10N44 2 October 2003 HP Sheds More Light on the Tru64 UNIX to  HP-UX Transition; HP Happenings   B SKHPCV10N45 6 October 2003 HP Unveils First Information Lifecycle L Initiative; HPs Smart Office Initiative Helps SMBs Work Smarter, Not Harder         Ken   " ---------------------------------- Kenneth R. Farmer <><  http://www.SpyderByte.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:27:51 GMT 6 From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.spyderbyte.com>2 Subject: Re: New SKHPC's posted: July-October 2003= Message-ID: <X2oCd.14788$z92.515849@twister.southeast.rr.com>   E That reply-to address is interesting.  I fired that message off from  A Thunderbird, the sister email app with Firefox.  Not a bad combo.   A I don't think it likes (AT) in the reply-to address instead of @.    Ken    OpenVMS.org % _____________________________________  Kenneth R. Farmer <>< % SpyderByte: http://www.SpyderByte.com       6 ""@" <""kfarmer(\"@)spyderbyte.com"> wrote in message 7 news:iigCd.16223$B66.530528@twister.southeast.rr.com...  > New SKHPC's posted: 4 > http://www.shannonknowshpc.com/pages.php?page=2003 >  > K > SKHPCV10N31 1 July 2003 McKinley Cometh, and HP is the Firstest With the  . > Mostest; OpenVMS Officially Comes to Itanium > I > SKHPCV10N32 8 July 2003 HP Engages in Some Very Aggressive HPUX/ Tru64  J > FUD-Busting, A New Spin or Two on The Storage Marketplace; HP Happenings > J > SKHPCV10N33 12 July 2003 SKHPC and Ken Farmer Take Another Pulse of the  > VMS User Base; HP Happenings > L > SKHPCV10N34 21 July 2003 HP Works the Web With Industry-Standard Approach I > to Management; A Hot Time in Hotlanta: SKHPC Provides a Final HP World  	 > Preview  > G > SKHPCV10N35 1 August 2003 Sun, et al, Attack, HP Responds With Alpha   > RetainTrust Program  > I > SKHPCV10N36 9 August 2003 HP Delivers More MARVEL-ous News With 32-way   > Marvel System; HP Happenings > I > SKHPCV10N37 10 August 2003 SKHPC Provides an Update on HPs AE and UDC   > Strategies; HP Happenings  > L > SKHPCV10N38 20 August 2003 HPs 3FQ03 Financials: Not Exactly a Midsummer  > Nights Dream; HP Happenings > K > SKHPCV10N39 24 August 2003 SKHPC Provides an In-Depth Review of HP World   > 2003 > K > SKHPCV10N40 3 September 2003 A Marketing Wake-Up Call for Our Friends at    > Hewlett-Packard; HP Happenings > L > SKHPCV10N41 8 September 2003 Hewlett-Packard Goes For the Grid to Advance  > AE Strategy; HP Happenings > H > SKHPCV10N42 18 September 2003 Intel Showcases Technology at Fall 2003 & > Intel Developer Forum; HP Happenings > M > SKHPCV10N43 28 September 2003 SKHPC Helps Spread the VMS Gospel in Germany   > and Holland; HP Happenings > L > SKHPCV10N44 2 October 2003 HP Sheds More Light on the Tru64 UNIX to HP-UX  > Transition; HP Happenings  > D > SKHPCV10N45 6 October 2003 HP Unveils First Information Lifecycle H > Initiative; HPs Smart Office Initiative Helps SMBs Work Smarter, Not  > Harder >  >  >  >  > Ken  > $ > ---------------------------------- > Kenneth R. Farmer <><  > http://www.SpyderByte.com  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 14:22:36 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> $ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras, Message-ID: <dsmdndrU8K3oBkTcRVn-oQ@igs.net>   Forrest Kenney wrote:  > = > There have been a number of hallway discussion about adding C > FAT support and what form it would need to take.  If folks really E > believe that FAT support is needed in OpenVMS please let folks like % > Sue Skonetski and Mark Gorham know.     J My gut reaction to that is "If Linux or PHUX will have FAT support then so, should VMS.....it levels the playing field".   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:34:24 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras, Message-ID: <41D99E34.1147E602@teksavvy.com>   Forrest Kenney wrote: E >         There have been a number of hallway discussion about adding C > FAT support and what form it would need to take.  If folks really E > believe that FAT support is needed in OpenVMS please let folks like % > Sue Skonetski and Mark Gorham know.   K Considering that those USB "devices" will likely become more prominent, I'd L say that FAT support is really necessary. Not just for cameras, but also for, music players, autnentication keys etc etc.   K While you guys may not see potential as VMS on the desktop for cameras etc, N consider cases of automated booths in photo stores where you plug in camera orN flash car and can then choose whichg pictures to have printed etc etc. This isS not desktop application so VMS management wouldn't be affraid to support such uses.   J Consider some factiory systems where a machine's config would be held in aL FAT-formatted USB key device. To produce widget A, you insert the widget-A'sN key (aka: FAt formatted drive containing all the necessary information to have that machine build widget A).   F Also, consider applications where a VMS system would be called upon toN generate thousands of preformatted and populated USB devices to be distributedK to customers. (consider a e-commerce site who hands over new authentication J devices to customers.  Again, not a desktop application, so VMS management% shouldn't be affraid to get into it).    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:26:25 GMT , From: Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@hp.com>$ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras& Message-ID: <41D9A6FF.7BDD2719@hp.com>  > 	Your preaching to the wrong folks, the engineers are not the G ones who need to be convinvced.  The business case needs to be made to  E Mark Gorham and Rich Marcello and those folks.  The engineers who do  G the work are well aware of all the potential uses.  But we don't decide % what projects get staffed and funded.    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Forrest Kenney wrote: G > >         There have been a number of hallway discussion about adding E > > FAT support and what form it would need to take.  If folks really G > > believe that FAT support is needed in OpenVMS please let folks like ' > > Sue Skonetski and Mark Gorham know.  > M > Considering that those USB "devices" will likely become more prominent, I'd N > say that FAT support is really necessary. Not just for cameras, but also for- > music players, autnentication keys etc etc.  > M > While you guys may not see potential as VMS on the desktop for cameras etc, P > consider cases of automated booths in photo stores where you plug in camera orP > flash car and can then choose whichg pictures to have printed etc etc. This isU > not desktop application so VMS management wouldn't be affraid to support such uses.  > L > Consider some factiory systems where a machine's config would be held in aN > FAT-formatted USB key device. To produce widget A, you insert the widget-A'sP > key (aka: FAt formatted drive containing all the necessary information to have > that machine build widget A).  > H > Also, consider applications where a VMS system would be called upon toP > generate thousands of preformatted and populated USB devices to be distributedM > to customers. (consider a e-commerce site who hands over new authentication L > devices to customers.  Again, not a desktop application, so VMS management' > shouldn't be affraid to get into it).    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:51:30 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@teksavvy.com> $ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras, Message-ID: <41D9B042.E1447D8E@teksavvy.com>   Forrest Kenney wrote:  > F >         Your preaching to the wrong folks, the engineers are not theH > ones who need to be convinvced.  The business case needs to be made to1 > Mark Gorham and Rich Marcello and those folks.    L Problem is that one needs to have a vision in order to push such project forM an OS that seems to have been relegated to a backroom box processing database G requests. And I don't think many poeple have a confidence that the real ) decision makers have such vision for VMS.   M The hope is that you guys will concuct the right drivers during coffee breaks N and let them loose for pilot projects, at which point some real customers willP come forth with an immediate business case for those pilot ones to be supported.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:01:43 -0500# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> $ Subject: Re: VMS and digital cameras, Message-ID: <u5edna6wVfZMU0TcRVn-1A@igs.net>   Forrest Kenney wrote: > > Your preaching to the wrong folks, the engineers are not theH > ones who need to be convinvced.  The business case needs to be made toF > Mark Gorham and Rich Marcello and those folks.  The engineers who doB > the work are well aware of all the potential uses.  But we don't. > decide what projects get staffed and funded.    L so how about a marcelloskitchen@hp.com address so we can suggest what should be cooking :-)  ; Sounds a lot better than first.last@digital.com .....wait a 1 minute...first.last@digital.com sounds real good.   J My first suggestion to Rich......BCS becomes Digital Equipment Corporation   ------------------------------  ! Date: Mon, 03 Jan 05 16:44:40 GMT : From: forall2see_2000@yahoo.com(forall2see_2000@yahoo.com) Subject: website hosting6 Message-ID: <05010316444012472@news.usenetmonster.com>  1 here is the place that I host my websites with .  0 If your still looking for a good host check out   http://frontpage-web-hosting.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 23:19:24 -0600 6 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> Subject: Re: xerces-c problem D Message-ID: <craigberry-30250E.23192403012005@news.isp.giganews.com>  + In article <crbm4b$p1i$1@bozon2.softax.pl>, 9  Robert Trawinski <robert.trawinski@softax.com.pl> wrote:   	 > Hi All,  > B > When I validate XML message against schema (on VMS) I get error: > G > test.xml:0 (column 0, path ) PARSE-FATAL-ERROR An exception occurred! J > Type:MalformedURLException, Message:The URL used an unsupported protocol >  > test.xml is: > ( > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>	 > <a></a>  > E > The same code works fine on Linux. We use XercesC on both platform.   G Since there are no URLs in your XML file, I'm going to go way out on a  E limb and guess that the malformed URL is not in the XML document. It  F might in your schema document, which you haven't shown here, but then F your XML document does not have a schema declaration, so I'm not sure G how you know you are validating it against a schema.  Your best bet is  G to show all the files you are using and the full text of your commands  F and error messages, along with the versions of all utilities involved.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2005.007 ************************